The only difference is that competition will drive down prices and drive up quality.
It'll go to whoever can make it the cheapest and still turn a profit, which will be whoever has the biggest manufacturing operations, because the person who actually invents it has nothing of value, to create any kind of profit from it they would need a manufacturing operation, one capable of competing with existing established large manufacturing operations. How are they going to do that?
It's more 'lol' that you even want an IR port, just another useless thing that makes the phone bigger and bulkier. If you want data transfer there's NFC, BT and WiFi, if you want remote control most devices these days support BT or WiFi. IR is old technology used for old technology, it can stay in the past. The N900 was the phone with all the features, the phone that very few people actually wanted. I don't use mine anymore, it was good in terms of functionality but it was too big, bulky and heavy as well as suffering quite badly from this.
You also missed that the N900 has a resistive touchscreen as opposed to a capacitive one, and that the Nexus has NFC where the N900 does not.
On the 'sensors' comment you've just put that few people actually use them, obviously because that goes a long way to disproving your point but of course you left in IR because that is a win for your point even though few people actually use IR, so clearly not an unbiased opinion there.
Didn't Kinect come from a company MS bought the rights from? or did they buy the company? Is this the same brain trust or the MS brain trust?
PrimeSense developed the hardware, MS developed the software.
except it didnt, unless by developed you mean MS ported PrimeSenses code (openni) to xbox360
Except it did, otherwise the Kinect and Windows SDKs would merely be OpenNI, which they aren't. If you've actually used them you'll see the feature sets are quite different and operate in different ways.
They didn't seem to care much that people were using it to develop on Windows.
you referring to devloping kinect apps on windows? they give away the windows SDK for free now. they do actually care, and indeed want people to do it.
Sorry that was in reference to: so they don't have to worry about it getting hacked this time They didn't seem to care that people were doing that, and as you say they even released an SDK.
So, the question is will it be USB 3.0 or something proprietary.
My guess would be proprietary, so they don't have to worry about it getting hacked this time. Of course, that would also mean that there's a new XBox in the works.
Most likely USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt, no sense creating another protocol. They didn't seem to care much that people were using it to develop on Windows.
Didn't Kinect come from a company MS bought the rights from? or did they buy the company? Is this the same brain trust or the MS brain trust?
PrimeSense developed the hardware, MS developed the software. Presumably PrimeSense will develop a higher resolution version of the current hardware and MS will do the finger tracking, lip reading, etc... software.
Well that's easy: no version of Android is really open source.
Of course they are, they fit the very definition of open source.
Call me when the rest of the Open Handset Alliance releases source for their bits. Oh. Right. They don't. Qualcomm, Broadcom I'm looking at you and all of your infernal binary blobs.
None of those are part of Android, your statement is as moronic as saying Linux isn't open source because nVidia provide binary blobs for their graphics cards.
Is Davlik still deliberately broken on OSX? Or maybe Google will ACCEPT SOME OF THE LONG STANDING FIXES for various ancient bugs in the core Android framework (which can't be fixed by developers without reimplementing the whole class... thanks for making such extensive use of private classes in your tab widget bits, Google).
Again, nothing to do with Android being open source.
I want a real linux distro, not google's vision of how linux should be. Let me know when I can load Debian, SuSe, Fedora, etc, on my phone and then we'll talk.
Do any of those have phone support? If not then I can't see why you would want them since loading them on to your phone seems pretty pointless...unless of course you don't actually want to use it as a phone.
It's easier to just say which releases/versions of Android are open source rather than trying to say whether the entire project is or is not. Pretty much all of them are with the notable exception (up until recently) of Honeycomb.
You seem to be assuming one about having a single screen size. But iPod came in a variety of screen sizes, as of course do Macs.
The pre-touch ipods didn't have the same app ecosystem the touch ones do so changing the resolution didn't really affect anyone but Apple in terms of software. And on Macs (or PCs in general) you don't generally target fixed resolutions anyway. If they start having iphones with different screen sizes then you have the issues of targeting multiple resolutions because i would think they're highly unlikely to double the already high resolution just to go from 3.5" to ~4". Alternatively they could reduce the ppi but then that might (i didn't do the math on it) mess with their 'retina display' marketing, not sure they would do that. So whilst they could do it and they very well might, i think i would have to agree with you that given their history it does indeed appear unlikely.
I did not follow WorldPerfect case closely, but do recall from previous anti-trust case against MS that they would hide their new API's from everyone but themselves, to make sure MS products are first to the market, and then causally disclosing their API's a few months down the road.
What I'm asking is whether your example has any relevance to the WordPerfect case, did they suddenly looses access to keyboard, screen, file system? I don't remember that being the case, and I certainly can't find any evidence to support such a thing either.
Assuming that this is what happened, we can see how Adobe was not affected by this -- MS did not try to compete with them, so being 6 month late to the market is not critical when your competitors are in the same boat.
But so many applications use open file dialogs - which is the focus of the issue with WP - so how could MS break it for WP but not break those for everyone else? It would seem whatever the devs of WP were doing was wrong since no-one else had that problem.
but, seriously, we're already posting articles about the iPhone 5? Really? It's literally a year away and we're already discussing it?
How long do you think it takes to design and build a new device? If Apple are building a new device to be sold next year (if it's the next iPhone and they fall back to their original schedule it's 7-8 months away) then the time when they would be beginning to order the components is now. Whether these rumors have any substance is another matter though, if they are going to a 4" iphone display that leaves questions about what the resolution would be.
whoa settle down there cowboy, getting a little emotionally involved in this aren't ya. I don't think anyone is too scared to reply to some random guy on the internet.
Yes I'm sure that's the only definition, I'm sure that's what network broadcast IP addresses are used for too...or not.
And as I'm not asking you anything, you are not allowed to track my MAC addresses. That'd be an abuse.
Show me where it says they are tracking based on MAC address, and how do you suppose they track you if you aren't the one sending it out in the first place? Magic?? And an abuse of what? Tell me what law, but then there isn't one which is why you can't tell me.
Second, if you are tracking my MAC addresses all around is like you were tracking my car plate number all around.
Wrong again, it's something your phone is sending out, there is no invasion or anything like that. And you can't specify what law it would be breaking because it isn't breaking any laws.
Unless you are the Police and have a grant for it, you are chasing me or, at least, harassing me. Which is illegal and
for which I can sue you.
No, wrong again. There is not police 'grant' for such a thing, in fact that's not even the correct term, perhaps you're thinking of a 'warrant'? Which again wouldn't apply here anyway, again there is no such law for it.
'Chasing' you? Nope.
'Harassing'? Nope, i'm guessing you don't know the meaning of the term if you think such a thing would be harassment.
So actually cite a relevant law or your claims of this are just rubbish, I'm sure you would like to think you could sue someone but in fact you can't, you have no case whatsoever.
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a) you are generalizing and making claims without any justification or evidence that:
i) hippies are idiotic
Actually he said:
idiotic, dirty, lazy hippie
So if by that he is generalizing then you are just as guilty of generalizing and posting troll/flamebait:
ignorant greedy capitalist
See, you're no better. That flows through the rest of your post too.
The only difference is that competition will drive down prices and drive up quality.
It'll go to whoever can make it the cheapest and still turn a profit, which will be whoever has the biggest manufacturing operations, because the person who actually invents it has nothing of value, to create any kind of profit from it they would need a manufacturing operation, one capable of competing with existing established large manufacturing operations. How are they going to do that?
So, was there anything special Gamespy offered that the others didn't?
You mean Gamepro?
Most of iOS is open source.
Except that since you can't get the source code to iOS (you can't build iOS) that makes it closed source.
ir port vs lol!
It's more 'lol' that you even want an IR port, just another useless thing that makes the phone bigger and bulkier. If you want data transfer there's NFC, BT and WiFi, if you want remote control most devices these days support BT or WiFi. IR is old technology used for old technology, it can stay in the past.
The N900 was the phone with all the features, the phone that very few people actually wanted. I don't use mine anymore, it was good in terms of functionality but it was too big, bulky and heavy as well as suffering quite badly from this.
You also missed that the N900 has a resistive touchscreen as opposed to a capacitive one, and that the Nexus has NFC where the N900 does not.
On the 'sensors' comment you've just put that few people actually use them, obviously because that goes a long way to disproving your point but of course you left in IR because that is a win for your point even though few people actually use IR, so clearly not an unbiased opinion there.
Just because there's no sense in it doesn't mean they won't.
It does mean it's less likely though, especially given the 'Kinect for Windows' stuff they are doing.
People keep using these words but do not seem to understand what they mean.
A judge ruling in favor of a company seeking to protect their trademarks is not government censorship.
A judge ruling that search engines must de-index sites offering counterfeit wares is stupid and practically unenforceable, but not censorship.
let's hear your definition of censorship then.
Didn't Kinect come from a company MS bought the rights from? or did they buy the company? Is this the same brain trust or the MS brain trust?
PrimeSense developed the hardware, MS developed the software.
except it didnt, unless by developed you mean MS ported PrimeSenses code (openni) to xbox360
Except it did, otherwise the Kinect and Windows SDKs would merely be OpenNI, which they aren't. If you've actually used them you'll see the feature sets are quite different and operate in different ways.
They didn't seem to care much that people were using it to develop on Windows.
you referring to devloping kinect apps on windows? they give away the windows SDK for free now. they do actually care, and indeed want people to do it.
Sorry that was in reference to:
so they don't have to worry about it getting hacked this time
They didn't seem to care that people were doing that, and as you say they even released an SDK.
Why is that unlikely? Whatever they use will have to be built in to the next XBox.
So, the question is will it be USB 3.0 or something proprietary.
My guess would be proprietary, so they don't have to worry about it getting hacked this time. Of course, that would also mean that there's a new XBox in the works.
Most likely USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt, no sense creating another protocol. They didn't seem to care much that people were using it to develop on Windows.
Didn't Kinect come from a company MS bought the rights from? or did they buy the company? Is this the same brain trust or the MS brain trust?
PrimeSense developed the hardware, MS developed the software. Presumably PrimeSense will develop a higher resolution version of the current hardware and MS will do the finger tracking, lip reading, etc... software.
Well that's easy: no version of Android is really open source.
Of course they are, they fit the very definition of open source.
Call me when the rest of the Open Handset Alliance releases source for their bits. Oh. Right. They don't. Qualcomm, Broadcom I'm looking at you and all of your infernal binary blobs.
None of those are part of Android, your statement is as moronic as saying Linux isn't open source because nVidia provide binary blobs for their graphics cards.
Is Davlik still deliberately broken on OSX? Or maybe Google will ACCEPT SOME OF THE LONG STANDING FIXES for various ancient bugs in the core Android framework (which can't be fixed by developers without reimplementing the whole class... thanks for making such extensive use of private classes in your tab widget bits, Google).
Again, nothing to do with Android being open source.
The android manufacturers should provide an open source kit for getting any linux distro to act as a phone. It's their hardware.
You mean the handset manufacturers? Why would they do that?
I want a real linux distro, not google's vision of how linux should be. Let me know when I can load Debian, SuSe, Fedora, etc, on my phone and then we'll talk.
Do any of those have phone support? If not then I can't see why you would want them since loading them on to your phone seems pretty pointless...unless of course you don't actually want to use it as a phone.
It's easier to just say which releases/versions of Android are open source rather than trying to say whether the entire project is or is not. Pretty much all of them are with the notable exception (up until recently) of Honeycomb.
Yaw-Sigh? Ewww...
Yahoo, not Yawhoo.
Don't you think they work on multiple devices at once? I would assume that there are maybe 2-3 teams working on the future devices.
Of course they would, what's your point?
Well the example isn't even analogous to the case in question so it doesn't make any sense, that's why i asked.
huhuh.. you know what they say, big hands, big...uh thingies..
gloves?
You seem to be assuming one about having a single screen size. But iPod came in a variety of screen sizes, as of course do Macs.
The pre-touch ipods didn't have the same app ecosystem the touch ones do so changing the resolution didn't really affect anyone but Apple in terms of software. And on Macs (or PCs in general) you don't generally target fixed resolutions anyway. If they start having iphones with different screen sizes then you have the issues of targeting multiple resolutions because i would think they're highly unlikely to double the already high resolution just to go from 3.5" to ~4". Alternatively they could reduce the ppi but then that might (i didn't do the math on it) mess with their 'retina display' marketing, not sure they would do that. So whilst they could do it and they very well might, i think i would have to agree with you that given their history it does indeed appear unlikely.
I did not follow WorldPerfect case closely, but do recall from previous anti-trust case against MS that they would hide their new API's from everyone but themselves, to make sure MS products are first to the market, and then causally disclosing their API's a few months down the road.
What I'm asking is whether your example has any relevance to the WordPerfect case, did they suddenly looses access to keyboard, screen, file system? I don't remember that being the case, and I certainly can't find any evidence to support such a thing either.
Assuming that this is what happened, we can see how Adobe was not affected by this -- MS did not try to compete with them, so being 6 month late to the market is not critical when your competitors are in the same boat.
But so many applications use open file dialogs - which is the focus of the issue with WP - so how could MS break it for WP but not break those for everyone else? It would seem whatever the devs of WP were doing was wrong since no-one else had that problem.
but, seriously, we're already posting articles about the iPhone 5? Really? It's literally a year away and we're already discussing it?
How long do you think it takes to design and build a new device? If Apple are building a new device to be sold next year (if it's the next iPhone and they fall back to their original schedule it's 7-8 months away) then the time when they would be beginning to order the components is now. Whether these rumors have any substance is another matter though, if they are going to a 4" iphone display that leaves questions about what the resolution would be.
whoa settle down there cowboy, getting a little emotionally involved in this aren't ya. I don't think anyone is too scared to reply to some random guy on the internet.
First, I'M NOT BROADCASTING ANYTHING.
Yes I'm sure that's the only definition, I'm sure that's what network broadcast IP addresses are used for too...or not.
And as I'm not asking you anything, you are not allowed to track my MAC addresses. That'd be an abuse.
Show me where it says they are tracking based on MAC address, and how do you suppose they track you if you aren't the one sending it out in the first place? Magic?? And an abuse of what? Tell me what law, but then there isn't one which is why you can't tell me.
Second, if you are tracking my MAC addresses all around is like you were tracking my car plate number all around.
Wrong again, it's something your phone is sending out, there is no invasion or anything like that. And you can't specify what law it would be breaking because it isn't breaking any laws.
Unless you are the Police and have a grant for it, you are chasing me or, at least, harassing me. Which is illegal and for which I can sue you.
No, wrong again. There is not police 'grant' for such a thing, in fact that's not even the correct term, perhaps you're thinking of a 'warrant'? Which again wouldn't apply here anyway, again there is no such law for it.
'Chasing' you? Nope.
'Harassing'? Nope, i'm guessing you don't know the meaning of the term if you think such a thing would be harassment.
So actually cite a relevant law or your claims of this are just rubbish, I'm sure you would like to think you could sue someone but in fact you can't, you have no case whatsoever.