No, actually I am pretty much the opposite of that. I am extremely skeptical and I like to think that I am a very savvy shopper. I never watch commercials on television and I adblock everywhere I go on the web.
Why? Because you might accidentally believe it?
It is not reasonable to expect regular people with regular lives to invest as much effort as I do to combat the pernicious influence of million dollar marketing budgets.
Why do you need to combat it? What specific cases are you talking about where you've been so influenced and found it difficult to fight against said influence?
In the ideal world that the free market concept is predicated on, being a fully informed consumer would be a reasonable option for everyone.
It is a reasonable option for everyone, but people aren't always right about everything all the time so mis-information will persist.
I do find the many conflicting faces of slashdot amusing - on one hand, apparently connecting to an unsecured wifi network is perfectly acceptable because it's publicly broadcasting a signal, but on the other hand tracking a publicly broadcasted signal from a mobile phone is a big no-no.
You do realize that slashdot is a community of many different people with different opinions? Or is there one specific person who has this conflicting opinion you speak of?
Personally im of the belief that you shouldn't broadcast anything you don't want publicly known.
My cellular phone is for my own convenience and one that I pay to maintain, it isn't so companies can figure out where I shop and give them incentive to try to get me to be a good little consumer and spend all my money.
No-one is forcing you to spend money, show a little self-control. And if you don't want to be 'tracked' get a pre-paid SIM (get someone else to buy it for you if you're really paranoid) and put it in an outright-purchased phone.
If you don't want to be tracked then don't broadcast personally identifiable information, simple.
And the purpose of all those "improvements"?
To make it easier to spend money.
And to make you and me feel better about spending more money.
The end result is the same. Less money in my pocket. And I'm supposed to be happy about that.
So just because they make it easier to spend money you're so weak-willed that you can't help but spend more money? Then you then go on to blame them because you've got no self-control and will do something purely because it's easy to do.
I used to think that. But then I realised that if one entity is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to influence you to make that decision, it isn't really fair any more. They aren't putting a gun to your head, but they are actively attempting to manipulate you using resources far beyond what you have access to and that's dirty pool.
Yes let's ban all marketing because people might be influenced by it. I suppose you're the sort of person who accepts that something is a great deal because the salesman told you so. There are laws to stop false advertising already, beyond that it's up to the consumer to make the decision.
Your program suddenly looses access to keyboard, screen, file system.
Is that what happened with WordPerfect? I didn't see that written anywhere, the only things i saw were related to an open file dialog.
Maybe it is because MS did not target them with a replacement of their own. The fact that MS did not manage to kill ALL non-MS software does not make them any less guilty.
It does suggest something is amiss with what WordPerfect was doing, if their OFD functionality was broken but everyone elses was fine that seems a little odd. So my question would be how is it that MS broke generic application functionality for only one customer. It all seems pretty dubious, especially since WP's marketshare was plummeting well before the release of Win95.
Sorry hikers and flood victims, we know you'd like clean water but while you're drinking that tepid water and consequently when you're lying ill you can reflect on the fact that your sacrifice means that drug dealers have had to find another source for iodine to create methamphetamine. We know it's a large sacrifice for an almost immeasurably small payoff, but this was low-hanging fruit and we're pretty lazy.
DEA.
Having people exert themselves mentally or physically actually does make them tired. Games dont do either.
There is plenty of mental exertion in games, particularly the most popular RTS games. And have you ever played Wii, PSMove or Kinect games? Certainly plenty of physical exertion to be had there.
key presses on the dialing pad. So they can see what phone number you called, but not what you type in general.
When a text is received, not the content of the text
FTFA:
“We’re not looking at texts. We’re counting things. How many texts did you send and how many failed. That’s the level of metrics that are being gathered,” he said.
He answered “probably yes” when asked whether the company could read the text messages if it wanted.
And the number of people capable of doing a brain transplant on an Android phone is probably in the 10,000s. Millions and millions of people are vulnerable and there isn't much they can do about it other than taking a hammer to the phone.
Then why would it matter if the OS is open source or closed source at all? By your own measure it only benefits a very tiny percentage of users anyway.
The parent poster is right. "MeeGo" is being purely used for marketting purposes.
So we can't that term to describe the product that nokia markets as such and also uses to describe said product? I understand the technical differences but you might as well go around pedantically correcting every Linux distro reference to GNU/Linux with a big rant about why it should be that way.
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To the gurus,
Is it possible to learn how to program the GPUs from the source?
Thank you !
That's a very broad question, do you want to do general purpose computations on the GPU or use the GPU for custom shading effects in the graphics pipeline of an application/game?
Your best bet is probably some tutorials on CUDA or OpenCL for GPGPU and Cg, GLSL or HLSL for shading.
Yes, because a 2011 27" iMac uses the same stuff that my 20" 2006 iMac uses.
Well no it doesn't, but if you actually think about it how many different configurations of Mac hardware are there compared with other PC hardware configurations? You think they're about the same do you? You don't realize there are a comparatively tiny amount of different Mac hardware configurations?
Yet, amazingly, both still work with modern software and old software written for OS X.
Now you're talking about software running on the OS, why? We're talking about the OS stability due to the fact that the OS devs know what hardware their software has to run on. The software on top relies on the stability and compatibility of the OS it's running on, which is why the OS is the discussion point.
Apple changes hardware out several times a year, sometimes even within the same product line.
And when these decisions are made the OS devs can be consulted to determine any potential issues and changes can be made for that specific hardware because Apple controls both the OS and the hardware, which is a clear and obvious advantage to a situation where you control one but not the other.
Marketshare is a neutral metric of fit. Quality of a product for the actual customers, all variables being considered. It comes from the idea of market rationality which is one of the core ideas of capitalism. Basically I assume consumers are at least semi-rational and only semi-correlated in their individual choices and collectively I can end up with a highly rational machine for collective choices.
Precisely, you can't judge quality based on marketshare, about as far as you can go is fit-for-purpose.
Nokia LIES (whoa, who would believe marketing is just about truth?) to customers and even for media.
Harmattan and MeeGo has some same parts, like Qt.
And why is it you're having so much of a problem with this? Is people calling it MeeGo (including the primary developers) causing you to be that confused? In what way is this naming convention causing you so much difficulty?
For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo
And since you've stated that MeeGo is DEAD it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever, what problems is this causing you?
N9 does not have MeeGo, it has Harmattan what is just officially branded as MeeGo/Harmattan.
So we can call it by the name it's officially branded or drop one or the other and EVERYONE still knows what we're talking about, unless you're one of those GNU slash Linux fanatics as well.
No it is not perfectly appropriate at all. It is not even close.
Oh no, dear god you better get on to Nokia and all the developers and tell them about this atrocity they are perpetrating, you should get on to the telcos as well as they are also continuing this terrible injustice!
Lets change Ubuntu branding as Windows 8 and it is perfectly appropriate that everyone else refers computers using it as Windows 8-based computer.
You can't run Windows application on Ubuntu, you can run MeeGo apps on an N9, so your example fails due to your own failure to understand those points.
I read it, and anyone who doesn't have at least a partially built prototype is going to lose out against someone else competing who does.
If that's the conclusion you came to after reading it then you clearly have a MASSIVE reading comprehension problem.
You submit a proposal for $20k seed money and you have an idea, a 3-page plan, a few powerpoint slides. I submit a video of a working prototype, along with future milestones that need to be hit, a list of technical challenges that have ALREADY been met (past performance is a better indicator of future performance than "oh we have a plan"), and the funding that will be needed for each milestone.
THE PURPOSE IS TO BUILD THE PROTOTYPE, seriously you couldn't be more retarded if you tried, it's written there in black and white and you are still so braindead you'll inject things that clearly are not there. What would be the purpose of entering into a program to build a prototype if you've already built one?! How can you be so dense that you don't get this?
Also, you fail to consider what happens if it doesn't get beyond the 3-month stage. Who owns the IP?
The company you founded for the competition, which you will part own with TechStars. Pretty obvious, but since you're clearly too dense to read what's written in black and white you probably don't have the intellectual capacity to infer such basic and obvious information.
Not you exclusively any more - you sold it.
Obviously, you know, the part where you sold 6% is a dead giveaway...or maybe that wasn't obvious to you.
So any great ideas that you may have come up with, they're free to patent, copyright, use, whatever.
No, what retarded world do you live in where that would be the case, you're selling part of the business, you're not selling yourself, everything you come up with from there on is not owned by the business you idiot.
The share of Android phones as a percentage of the market has been growing. The market itself has been growing. By what strange application of mathematics could it be the case that the number of Android phones is not consequently also growing?
I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand but we have the growth of the share of android phones as a percentage of the market, however you also need to factor in how much the market has grown, you admittedly don't seem to think that number is relevant, which it obviously is.
Ah yes, the literal argument. And if the Apple has the most popular laptop model it clearly must mean that more people buy laptops with MacOS than with Windows. (Or not, in either case.)
How retarded are you? I said smartphone, i said it multiple times and you still failed to understand that, it's not that hard, it's written right there.
There were smartphones before the iPhone, like the Blackberry. Or that stuff Microsoft was selling back then. There has to be some reason why people chose early iOS and Android over their contemporaries. You're trying to define "smartphone" as "iPhone", which is just begging the question.
No I'm not trying to define smartphone as iPhone, but compare pre-iphone smartphones to post-iphone smartphones, it's pretty obviously a very different generation of devices, don't be obtuse.
Those things are not replacements for one another.
And neither is WP7 a replacement for WM, which you would know if you'd bothered to actually do any research on the topic, now you just look ignorant. They share about as much in common as the iPhone and the nokia n95, a WM user would not see any familiarity with WP whatsoever, but obviously you haven't used both platforms so you wouldn't know that which is why you're posing such a ridiculous argument.
See above. Windows PCs are not fungible with consoles.
And WP is not fungible with WM, which you would know if you'd used them, so i can't understand why you would argue a point that you clearly know nothing about. All you're talking about is brand loyalty because familiarity counts for absolutely nothing whatsoever on these platforms.
IIRC the specific estimates above are for the higher education market, but I'll give you the numbers for the whole US market.
How about worldwide, you know since the products are available worldwide and quality isn't based purely on the US's perception.
But come on, how exactly given time to market, maturity of the market and age of the products, you clearly seem to think there is a formula for deriving quality so what is it? How exactly do you determine quality based on marketshare? What is this formula you seem to think is there? Or are you just arguing for the sake of it?
Which fails to explain how both have more market share than they did a year ago. If there are more users now than before, not all of them can be those forced to keep the previous platform because critical legacy applications are not available on alternatives.
Well Android does (http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-15/tech/30400455_1_ios-iphone-smartphone-market), but then you have to correlate that to market growth as well. Can you do that?
Often people just buy the most common product, on desktop OS that's Windows and in the smartphone land that's the iPhone.
Actually in smartphone land that's Android.
No i think you'll find the iphone is the most common smartphone.
If there was a strong propensity for smart phone customers to just buy the most popular product then how did both of them become popular in the first place?
The birth of the consumer smartphone market, look at how it's different from what it was 6 years ago. Same as with the birth of the PC market decades ago.
WP7 wasn't on sale until recently. You can't measure a change in market share unless you have a baseline.
Your baseline is zero, you don't use a completely different product to base it on. If you wanted to measure a change in the ipad market share you don't use the newton as a baseline, you don't use the ipod as a baseline for the iphone, you don't use windows gaming pcs as a baseline for the xbox.
Even if you want to claim that it's a completely new product with no relation to previous Windows mobile devices (which is clearly wrong, since the people who had WM devices had to replace them with something and their familiarity with the Windows brand for phones predisposes them to WP7)
No because it is obviously completely different, you might as well say that a gamer who has a windows PC is pre-disposed to buying an xbox instead of a PS3 or Wii, obviously stupid.
comparing to a baseline "zero" still doesn't bode well for it, since their sales volume remains "near zero."
Given your lack of numbers or comparison to other platforms in their first year your whole argument is absolutely baseless.
Not really. The change has been slow, but it's clearly there. It wasn't long ago that Windows had ~90% share and MacOS 10%. Now it's more like 80%/20%.
GP is basically right. Nokia's advertising is misleading, probably because they want to distance the N9 from the N900 as the latter was unpolished. As I understand it, Harmattan is actually Maemo with the libraries added to be able to run Meego apps.
I understand that, I followed all of that development when i had my N900, but the fact is that Nokia - the company that make the phone and were the primary developers on the project - are calling it MeeGo-based so it's perfectly appropriate for anyone else to refer to the N9 as a MeeGo-based phone.
PS. N9 does not have MeeGo in it. It has Harmattan. Harmattan and MeeGo are two different products and development branches. Harmattan were code name for Maemo 6.0 (5.0 is in N900) and MeeGo was project of Maemo 5.0 + Moblin.
So do not talk about MeeGo when talking about N9 but only with Harmattan aka Maemo as that is used in it.
Better get on the horn and tell Nokia they're marketing their phone wrong.
I think the problem is that you have to look at market share changes. You can sell millions of copies of a turd sandwich like Vista, even if there are better options available, because many people buy based on inertia.
And that's just as applicable to the iPhone and Android these days too, particularly with mobile application lock-in. Often people just buy the most common product, on desktop OS that's Windows and in the smartphone land that's the iPhone.
But if you compare market share changes over time, you get a much different picture. In particular, it puts OSX and iPhone back in the same bucket as one another, and puts Windows and WM/WP7 together in the other one.
WM and WP7 are completely different and not even remotely compatible, putting them together makes as much sense as putting the ipad and newton together. WP7 is expected to have small marketshare given that it's barely a year old, so it's gone from nothing to a very small percentage of a mature market, the original iphone had just as puny marketshare at that stage of its life, that obviously didn't make it bad. As for marketshare change worldwide Windows and OSX have remained pretty flat for many years, things haven't changed there much.
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For trying to access your smartphone
Well they aren't trying to access your smartphone, they don't appear to be doing anything but capturing data you are publicly broadcasting.
for chasing you and so on.
Sue them for chasing you?
No, actually I am pretty much the opposite of that. I am extremely skeptical and I like to think that I am a very savvy shopper. I never watch commercials on television and I adblock everywhere I go on the web.
Why? Because you might accidentally believe it?
It is not reasonable to expect regular people with regular lives to invest as much effort as I do to combat the pernicious influence of million dollar marketing budgets.
Why do you need to combat it? What specific cases are you talking about where you've been so influenced and found it difficult to fight against said influence?
In the ideal world that the free market concept is predicated on, being a fully informed consumer would be a reasonable option for everyone.
It is a reasonable option for everyone, but people aren't always right about everything all the time so mis-information will persist.
Or Sue the mall management as an option.
Sue them for what?
I do find the many conflicting faces of slashdot amusing - on one hand, apparently connecting to an unsecured wifi network is perfectly acceptable because it's publicly broadcasting a signal, but on the other hand tracking a publicly broadcasted signal from a mobile phone is a big no-no.
You do realize that slashdot is a community of many different people with different opinions? Or is there one specific person who has this conflicting opinion you speak of?
Personally im of the belief that you shouldn't broadcast anything you don't want publicly known.
My cellular phone is for my own convenience and one that I pay to maintain, it isn't so companies can figure out where I shop and give them incentive to try to get me to be a good little consumer and spend all my money.
No-one is forcing you to spend money, show a little self-control. And if you don't want to be 'tracked' get a pre-paid SIM (get someone else to buy it for you if you're really paranoid) and put it in an outright-purchased phone.
If you don't want to be tracked then don't broadcast personally identifiable information, simple.
And the purpose of all those "improvements"?
To make it easier to spend money.
And to make you and me feel better about spending more money.
The end result is the same. Less money in my pocket. And I'm supposed to be happy about that.
So just because they make it easier to spend money you're so weak-willed that you can't help but spend more money? Then you then go on to blame them because you've got no self-control and will do something purely because it's easy to do.
I used to think that. But then I realised that if one entity is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to influence you to make that decision, it isn't really fair any more. They aren't putting a gun to your head, but they are actively attempting to manipulate you using resources far beyond what you have access to and that's dirty pool.
Yes let's ban all marketing because people might be influenced by it. I suppose you're the sort of person who accepts that something is a great deal because the salesman told you so. There are laws to stop false advertising already, beyond that it's up to the consumer to make the decision.
Your program suddenly looses access to keyboard, screen, file system.
Is that what happened with WordPerfect? I didn't see that written anywhere, the only things i saw were related to an open file dialog.
Maybe it is because MS did not target them with a replacement of their own. The fact that MS did not manage to kill ALL non-MS software does not make them any less guilty.
It does suggest something is amiss with what WordPerfect was doing, if their OFD functionality was broken but everyone elses was fine that seems a little odd. So my question would be how is it that MS broke generic application functionality for only one customer. It all seems pretty dubious, especially since WP's marketshare was plummeting well before the release of Win95.
Sorry hikers and flood victims, we know you'd like clean water but while you're drinking that tepid water and consequently when you're lying ill you can reflect on the fact that your sacrifice means that drug dealers have had to find another source for iodine to create methamphetamine. We know it's a large sacrifice for an almost immeasurably small payoff, but this was low-hanging fruit and we're pretty lazy. DEA.
Having people exert themselves mentally or physically actually does make them tired. Games dont do either.
There is plenty of mental exertion in games, particularly the most popular RTS games. And have you ever played Wii, PSMove or Kinect games? Certainly plenty of physical exertion to be had there.
As I understand the article this only tracks:
key presses on the dialing pad. So they can see what phone number you called, but not what you type in general. When a text is received, not the content of the text
FTFA:
“We’re not looking at texts. We’re counting things. How many texts did you send and how many failed. That’s the level of metrics that are being gathered,” he said.
He answered “probably yes” when asked whether the company could read the text messages if it wanted.
And the number of people capable of doing a brain transplant on an Android phone is probably in the 10,000s. Millions and millions of people are vulnerable and there isn't much they can do about it other than taking a hammer to the phone.
Then why would it matter if the OS is open source or closed source at all? By your own measure it only benefits a very tiny percentage of users anyway.
The parent poster is right. "MeeGo" is being purely used for marketting purposes.
So we can't that term to describe the product that nokia markets as such and also uses to describe said product? I understand the technical differences but you might as well go around pedantically correcting every Linux distro reference to GNU/Linux with a big rant about why it should be that way.
To the gurus,
Is it possible to learn how to program the GPUs from the source?
Thank you !
That's a very broad question, do you want to do general purpose computations on the GPU or use the GPU for custom shading effects in the graphics pipeline of an application/game?
Your best bet is probably some tutorials on CUDA or OpenCL for GPGPU and Cg, GLSL or HLSL for shading.
Yes, because a 2011 27" iMac uses the same stuff that my 20" 2006 iMac uses.
Well no it doesn't, but if you actually think about it how many different configurations of Mac hardware are there compared with other PC hardware configurations? You think they're about the same do you? You don't realize there are a comparatively tiny amount of different Mac hardware configurations?
Yet, amazingly, both still work with modern software and old software written for OS X.
Now you're talking about software running on the OS, why? We're talking about the OS stability due to the fact that the OS devs know what hardware their software has to run on. The software on top relies on the stability and compatibility of the OS it's running on, which is why the OS is the discussion point.
Apple changes hardware out several times a year, sometimes even within the same product line.
And when these decisions are made the OS devs can be consulted to determine any potential issues and changes can be made for that specific hardware because Apple controls both the OS and the hardware, which is a clear and obvious advantage to a situation where you control one but not the other.
Marketshare is a neutral metric of fit. Quality of a product for the actual customers, all variables being considered. It comes from the idea of market rationality which is one of the core ideas of capitalism. Basically I assume consumers are at least semi-rational and only semi-correlated in their individual choices and collectively I can end up with a highly rational machine for collective choices.
Precisely, you can't judge quality based on marketshare, about as far as you can go is fit-for-purpose.
Nokia LIES (whoa, who would believe marketing is just about truth?) to customers and even for media.
Harmattan and MeeGo has some same parts, like Qt.
And why is it you're having so much of a problem with this? Is people calling it MeeGo (including the primary developers) causing you to be that confused? In what way is this naming convention causing you so much difficulty?
For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo
And since you've stated that MeeGo is DEAD it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever, what problems is this causing you?
N9 does not have MeeGo, it has Harmattan what is just officially branded as MeeGo/Harmattan.
So we can call it by the name it's officially branded or drop one or the other and EVERYONE still knows what we're talking about, unless you're one of those GNU slash Linux fanatics as well.
No it is not perfectly appropriate at all. It is not even close.
Oh no, dear god you better get on to Nokia and all the developers and tell them about this atrocity they are perpetrating, you should get on to the telcos as well as they are also continuing this terrible injustice!
Lets change Ubuntu branding as Windows 8 and it is perfectly appropriate that everyone else refers computers using it as Windows 8-based computer.
You can't run Windows application on Ubuntu, you can run MeeGo apps on an N9, so your example fails due to your own failure to understand those points.
And if I have a better one with Apple because of their limited hardware selection, then I will go with this.
Of course, and that's my whole point, that's what i believe to be the case. I mean that's what i did too.
I read it, and anyone who doesn't have at least a partially built prototype is going to lose out against someone else competing who does.
If that's the conclusion you came to after reading it then you clearly have a MASSIVE reading comprehension problem.
You submit a proposal for $20k seed money and you have an idea, a 3-page plan, a few powerpoint slides. I submit a video of a working prototype, along with future milestones that need to be hit, a list of technical challenges that have ALREADY been met (past performance is a better indicator of future performance than "oh we have a plan"), and the funding that will be needed for each milestone.
THE PURPOSE IS TO BUILD THE PROTOTYPE, seriously you couldn't be more retarded if you tried, it's written there in black and white and you are still so braindead you'll inject things that clearly are not there. What would be the purpose of entering into a program to build a prototype if you've already built one?! How can you be so dense that you don't get this?
Also, you fail to consider what happens if it doesn't get beyond the 3-month stage. Who owns the IP?
The company you founded for the competition, which you will part own with TechStars. Pretty obvious, but since you're clearly too dense to read what's written in black and white you probably don't have the intellectual capacity to infer such basic and obvious information.
Not you exclusively any more - you sold it.
Obviously, you know, the part where you sold 6% is a dead giveaway...or maybe that wasn't obvious to you.
So any great ideas that you may have come up with, they're free to patent, copyright, use, whatever.
No, what retarded world do you live in where that would be the case, you're selling part of the business, you're not selling yourself, everything you come up with from there on is not owned by the business you idiot.
The share of Android phones as a percentage of the market has been growing. The market itself has been growing. By what strange application of mathematics could it be the case that the number of Android phones is not consequently also growing?
I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand but we have the growth of the share of android phones as a percentage of the market, however you also need to factor in how much the market has grown, you admittedly don't seem to think that number is relevant, which it obviously is.
Ah yes, the literal argument. And if the Apple has the most popular laptop model it clearly must mean that more people buy laptops with MacOS than with Windows. (Or not, in either case.)
How retarded are you? I said smartphone, i said it multiple times and you still failed to understand that, it's not that hard, it's written right there.
There were smartphones before the iPhone, like the Blackberry. Or that stuff Microsoft was selling back then. There has to be some reason why people chose early iOS and Android over their contemporaries. You're trying to define "smartphone" as "iPhone", which is just begging the question.
No I'm not trying to define smartphone as iPhone, but compare pre-iphone smartphones to post-iphone smartphones, it's pretty obviously a very different generation of devices, don't be obtuse.
Those things are not replacements for one another.
And neither is WP7 a replacement for WM, which you would know if you'd bothered to actually do any research on the topic, now you just look ignorant. They share about as much in common as the iPhone and the nokia n95, a WM user would not see any familiarity with WP whatsoever, but obviously you haven't used both platforms so you wouldn't know that which is why you're posing such a ridiculous argument.
See above. Windows PCs are not fungible with consoles.
And WP is not fungible with WM, which you would know if you'd used them, so i can't understand why you would argue a point that you clearly know nothing about. All you're talking about is brand loyalty because familiarity counts for absolutely nothing whatsoever on these platforms.
IIRC the specific estimates above are for the higher education market, but I'll give you the numbers for the whole US market.
How about worldwide, you know since the products are available worldwide and quality isn't based purely on the US's perception.
But come on, how exactly given time to market, maturity of the market and age of the products, you clearly seem to think there is a formula for deriving quality so what is it? How exactly do you determine quality based on marketshare? What is this formula you seem to think is there? Or are you just arguing for the sake of it?
Which fails to explain how both have more market share than they did a year ago. If there are more users now than before, not all of them can be those forced to keep the previous platform because critical legacy applications are not available on alternatives.
Well Android does (http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-15/tech/30400455_1_ios-iphone-smartphone-market), but then you have to correlate that to market growth as well. Can you do that?
Often people just buy the most common product, on desktop OS that's Windows and in the smartphone land that's the iPhone.
Actually in smartphone land that's Android.
No i think you'll find the iphone is the most common smartphone.
If there was a strong propensity for smart phone customers to just buy the most popular product then how did both of them become popular in the first place?
The birth of the consumer smartphone market, look at how it's different from what it was 6 years ago. Same as with the birth of the PC market decades ago.
WP7 wasn't on sale until recently. You can't measure a change in market share unless you have a baseline.
Your baseline is zero, you don't use a completely different product to base it on. If you wanted to measure a change in the ipad market share you don't use the newton as a baseline, you don't use the ipod as a baseline for the iphone, you don't use windows gaming pcs as a baseline for the xbox.
Even if you want to claim that it's a completely new product with no relation to previous Windows mobile devices (which is clearly wrong, since the people who had WM devices had to replace them with something and their familiarity with the Windows brand for phones predisposes them to WP7)
No because it is obviously completely different, you might as well say that a gamer who has a windows PC is pre-disposed to buying an xbox instead of a PS3 or Wii, obviously stupid.
comparing to a baseline "zero" still doesn't bode well for it, since their sales volume remains "near zero."
Given your lack of numbers or comparison to other platforms in their first year your whole argument is absolutely baseless.
Not really. The change has been slow, but it's clearly there. It wasn't long ago that Windows had ~90% share and MacOS 10%. Now it's more like 80%/20%.
Where? Those figures look pretty made up.
GP is basically right. Nokia's advertising is misleading, probably because they want to distance the N9 from the N900 as the latter was unpolished. As I understand it, Harmattan is actually Maemo with the libraries added to be able to run Meego apps.
I understand that, I followed all of that development when i had my N900, but the fact is that Nokia - the company that make the phone and were the primary developers on the project - are calling it MeeGo-based so it's perfectly appropriate for anyone else to refer to the N9 as a MeeGo-based phone.
PS. N9 does not have MeeGo in it. It has Harmattan. Harmattan and MeeGo are two different products and development branches. Harmattan were code name for Maemo 6.0 (5.0 is in N900) and MeeGo was project of Maemo 5.0 + Moblin. So do not talk about MeeGo when talking about N9 but only with Harmattan aka Maemo as that is used in it.
Better get on the horn and tell Nokia they're marketing their phone wrong.
The Nokia N9 smartphone, based on MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan
MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan: The Qt SDK now contains experimental toolchains and other experimental components to create MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan apps.
MeeGo Harmattan is a Linux-based software platform developed by Nokia for mobile devices.
I think the problem is that you have to look at market share changes. You can sell millions of copies of a turd sandwich like Vista, even if there are better options available, because many people buy based on inertia.
And that's just as applicable to the iPhone and Android these days too, particularly with mobile application lock-in. Often people just buy the most common product, on desktop OS that's Windows and in the smartphone land that's the iPhone.
But if you compare market share changes over time, you get a much different picture. In particular, it puts OSX and iPhone back in the same bucket as one another, and puts Windows and WM/WP7 together in the other one.
WM and WP7 are completely different and not even remotely compatible, putting them together makes as much sense as putting the ipad and newton together. WP7 is expected to have small marketshare given that it's barely a year old, so it's gone from nothing to a very small percentage of a mature market, the original iphone had just as puny marketshare at that stage of its life, that obviously didn't make it bad. As for marketshare change worldwide Windows and OSX have remained pretty flat for many years, things haven't changed there much.