An iphone 4 ran iOS 7 (4 years later) which is better than any other phone I know. And abandonment is a little overstated, because the phone works fine with iOS 7
The iPhone4 runs like crap with iOS7, I've personally tried it but you can read all the reviews over the net if you don't believe me. As for support I would certainly expect decent support from Apple because unlike any other phone manufacturer they control all the hardware and software, they don't have to worry that the software they develop has to run well on hundreds of thousands of different hardware configurations, they only have a handful and given the crap performance of iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 it seems they only went as far as "does it run at all".
In all likelihood, Apple will release a quad core update sooner rather then later. Holding off for 6 months gives them plenty of time to design the new hardware while also giving them the opportunity to make headlines once again in 6 months time.
And that's what it's about isn't it, there's no reason the richest tech company in the world couldn't have produced a quad core variant in that time but now they already have the next mac mini in reserve ready to go.
The benchmarks say that the CPU of the entry-level late 2014 Mac Mini is only 3.8% slower than the entry-level late 2012 Mac Mini. However, the TDP is also 57.1% lower (from 35W to 15W).
But it's a desktop PC, sacrificing a bit of power for a lower TDP is great in a laptop but to go 2 years on a desktop and release a system with a decrease in performance with only a lower TDP to show for it is pretty lame.
That's just it, you can't. The classic desktop is gone..or hidden to the point where system breaking hacks are needed to bring it back, and it's bugged.
What do you mean it's gone? All the elements are there, just with a new theme.
This article is talking about the new control panel they've mangled.
Yes they do seem to have a new control panel in development, I don't see why they couldn't have used the old one with revamped icons in a metro container. But that's why they have this feedback program I suppose.
Administration UI not changing is important for people who need to walk other people through PC administration over the telephone.
But administration UIs change all the time often out of necessity, in fact they are even customizable. You don't expect the admin UI for Windows 95 to be the same as the one for Windows 7.
It is just that the changes they made lately seem very counter intuitive to me.
What part of it is counter-intuitive? It's all the same concepts as before, sure if you want to administer your PC you may find things in slightly different places or named slightly different but I can't say I do that very often, I use my PC to run programs and those programs run just the same as they always have.
As far as control panel is concerned I just use search because the actual location of things changes based on the size of the window anyway.
How does it really affect you? Sure they changed the UI just like they did with 3.x to 9x and then 9x to 7 but with 10 they've put the start menu back so the only real change is the desktop theme, and even that you can put back to classic if you want. They've improved it to use less system resources as well which is good for any intensive computing tasks like games.
Sure 8 was confusing to Windows users that expected the desktop and a start menu but that's what 10 gives you.
I am talking about the system functionality. What the hell requires sound or serious graphics on a daily basis in Linux?
Most things that people do with their computers, you know like web browsing, watching video, listening to music and then of course professionals want to do things like audio, video and photo editing/production, architectural, factory and product design/engineering/simulation/visualization.
Of course, an admin only needs command line;)
And most people don't get a computer just to administer it.
I couldn't care less about how pretty it looks...I want it to WORK PROPERLY.
These days the issues with operating systems (Windows, Linux (incl. Android) or OSX) are more related to the user installing malicious software than the actual operating system working incorrectly. Actual operating system crashes - even those that stem from bad kernel-mode drivers - are few and far between these days on any of the modern operating systems, we've come a long way from the days of Windows 9x, MacOS and the early versions of Caldera.
The Surface Pro was an incremental step from the many different types of convertable laptops.
Wrong. The surface pro is MS playing its usual game of cloning a market leader (embrace), in this case the iPad, and adding features to it (extend), i.e. a keyboard.
How is it a "clone" of an iPad? Hardware and software-wise it's a laptop with a touchscreen, active digitizer and detachable keyboard. Yes the iPad also has a touchscreen, that hardly makes every other device with a touchscreen an "iPad clone".
We can always go and compare a gaming rig to a proper business laptop, but that just doesn't make sense.
As always, it depends on what you are looking for. Arguing specs and price is just retarded when you aren't specifying a use case, whether you spend more money on a faster SSD or you sacrifice battery life for a more powerful GPU depends solely on what you are going to use it for so unless you are comparing identical hardware you can draw absolutely zero conclusion until then.
If I'm going to pay someone to program, then it doesn't matter whether the source is open to me or not, does it.
Well in effect you can pay anybody to fix it because the source is available to everybody but with closed source the only people you can pay to fix it are those who wrote it (or a select few who have source access). However, from a practical standpoint nobody is contracting random developers to make changes to their software except large corporations, to an individual end user in a practical sense you are right: the fact that it's open source probably doesn't matter to them.
I'm not "pinging" you, what the hell are you talking about? Even so, you see a notification you lack the self control to not reply?... I guess we'll find out shortly.
You're not proving anything, neither am I. I'm not complaining to you though, we're on/. for god's sake.
Exactly, you think anybody involved in the decision making process is actually reading this and taking notice that some random on the internet doesn't like systemd? No, of course not.
That is similar to what is going on with PC laptops.
So? We're talking about MacBooks, it was great that you could do it back then but now that those MacBooks have been replaced by the MacBook Air you can't do those things anymore which is a shame because it was so useful and you could keep an older system going for much longer before needing to upgrade.
For my 2006 Black MacBook, I maxed out the RAM to 2GB by using cheaper memory modules from Other World Computing (OWC). I popped in a OWC 120GB SSD for less than a $100 last year. Although Apple still charges $129 for replacement batteries, I can get them for $75 through OWC or $35 on eBay from China.
Yeah that was back then, you can't do that anymore. The MacBook was replaced by the MacBook Air in which the battery and RAM are soldered-in components. Not sure if these new just-announced models have the SSD soldered in now.
I *am* a developer. This was not the Debian "developer"'s decision. That's what a GR would have been for, for example. What happened there was pure politics, but you're too preoccupied with proving your silly point that no one has a right to complain against that decision, because everyone's lazy to understand that.
Complain all you want, but complain to the people responsible, it was their decision to make, not yours and not mine.
You keep riding around on this for 3 or 4 posts already, you are trolling.
No, I'm not and you don't believe that, you've claimed to leave the discussion several times and you keep returning which confirms you know I'm not trolling.
Also, You're not an admin obviously and don't have anything at stake here
Right, I don't have anything at stake here which is why I can view this objectively, unlike you.
Something you have exceptional difficulty understanding is what Debian is, what it's community is, and what a big part of the userbase needs.
No I'm perfectly aware of that.
You seem to not quite understand the issue, maybe you should check out a couple of the discussions?
I understand the issue fine, the Debian developers are not ruled by a dictatorship or forced to do anything, it's the submissive attitude that stops them from going their own way.
SystemD is not an init system. Go have a look at one of the links I supplied to you.
I didn't say it was, but part of it is.
I'm done with this discussion.
Yes as you have said multiple times already, yet you're still here.
We're talking about totally different things.
Oh hooray! He finally gets it!
I have the right to do whatever I fucking feel like
Of course you do, as does everybody involved in Debian development and those pushing systemd.
I for one know that this change is detrimental, because I'll actually have to deal with it, as part of the Debian community I also have the right to voice my opinion on this matter and demand that they continue on the path that they've been for the last decade and more.
So do that! This is what I said from the beginning, if you aren't a contributor and you aren't voicing your opinion to them in the discussions on this topic then how exactly do you think you're going to get your way?
I also have the right to tell them to fuck off and go somewhere else (along with many others), which I'm gonna have to reluctantly do
Yes, that is one of the choices. Unfortunately for all the "freedom" of free software ultimately the effort involved means it isn't really free in any practical sense.
Ok obviously you're getting very very angry so how about I try this a different way for you. Since I don't have an opinion on this systemd debate and I don't care about Linux init systems - something you have had exceptional difficulty understanding - I'll take your arguments, yes they were just ad hominem attacks and not very informative but I don't care so I'll accept your position on this:
systemd is terrible and should never have been implemented by anybody.
Ok? But that still does not give you any right whatsoever to tell the Debian developers what they should or should not do. You don't like that choice? Well tough luck, get over yourself, it's not your choice to make.
Who's they? The Debian community, or the couple of fuckwads deciding for everyone else?
"They" is indeed whoever is in charge of that area of development, if it's only a couple of people and the rest of the community is against them then the solution is obvious: stop being a submissive and knuckling-under to what those "couple of fuckwads" have decided, drop those people and carry on as normal.
I expect if you reply your sanity will be overwhelmed by your emotional attachment to the issue and you'll be all angry but try to keep a level head and understand?
See, when people talk about MS fucking someone over, even though users pay money, no one ever get's this idea of telling them that "you don't contribute so go fuck yourself!"
No, with Microsoft you cannot contribute, with a project like Debian you can.
As you don't know who the fuck you're dealing with, you are committing a grave error to think of me as lazy, clinging to your "I don't like entitlist people" bullshit.
Bitch all you want, the fact is you're complaining that others didn't do what you wanted them to, you have no power over what others do nor should you, the fact that you think they should have done what you want them to do is offensive.
Of course, this is just a recommendation and you can do whatever the fuck you want as long as you respect the rights of other people (or not and face the consequences).
Except you don't do that, it is their right to do what they want, not yours!
Please tell me why this change was necessary in the first place? Oh you can't? Because it wasn't!
I don't know, frankly I don't really care nor is that in any way the point, but that is precisely why you answer my question with another question.
It. doesn't. matter. whether. I. voted. or. not! If you want to insist on your argument, please prove to me that it did.
Ah yes, "my candidate didn't get in so I'm angry even though I didn't vote because my vote doesn't matter".
Well, I did contribute to it
Then show me.
What you're saying sounds to me exactly like: "I'm not a politician, so they should do whatever they please."
Then you aren't reading, if you read the whole sentence it is about them making a decision, publicly debating it and you only complaining after the fact. Look at how much effort you've gone to and continue to go to in continuing to complain to me about this.
If you're really so submissive/obedient, it doesn't mean that everyone is.
Actually the submissive is you, ultimately you complain to me rather than to the people responsible. Frankly I don't care, I have no horse in this race, but you do, you have an issue with it but refuse to bring it up with people that actually make the decsions...why is that?
No problem, go and make your SystemD/Linux, or SystemD Debian/Linux or your other project or downstream distro but LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE WITH YOUR BLOATED SHIT, LENNART!
Holy crap this is really too much for you, a projecting emotional response to your own failure at reading comprehension. Let's try this once again:
I don't care about Linux init systems whatsoever this is not about init systems but rather about the right of the Debian foundation to make their own choices and not be beholden to people like you who think they should be in control of others.
If it's so good, prove it by merit, not politics, marketing, and propaganda.
Are you actually retarded? I already told you multiple times that I don't give a shit about systemd in any form. Stop projecting, you so badly want me to be some systemd proponent but I'm not.
I wonder how many times a mental defective such as yourself requires this to be told to them before they understand.
Well there have been a number of stories about Docker on Slashdot and there are links in the story that explain what it is as well if you hadn't read the previous stories and don't know what it is.
So, are you also one of the people that block the passing lane on the highway, because the sign says 55?
No, you are free to do whatever you like, nobody is stopping you. What you are complaining about is that other people won't do what you want done for you.
And I'm in opposition of (stupid) knee-jerk decisions of a distro oriented more or less towards the knowledgeable crowd of users
Then get involved with it.
It's a shame that the init choice is being taken away from the users.
You have a choice! You just want it all done for you. You can maintain it yourself or move to another distro, but you have this entitlist mentality that all these people should do all this work for you when you contribute nothing to them.
Since you've given me that systemd link, here's some more (I'll skip upstart):
Yes there are many debates on the init systems, none of which I am interested in, including systemd.
I have decided to not write anything in this section
Are you dense? I'm not in opposition of or support of systemd, I couldn't give a shit either way, I've already explained this. Why are you so desperate to debate systemd with me when I have no position on it but so desperate to avoid debating it with the people who make the decision on it?
That reads to me like: "I'm not going to oppose a government decision, because I'm not a politician."
Yes it would if you selectively comment, whether you did that or you just didn't read the sentence: ", I don't contribute to the distro and I didn't contribute to the decision on it."
See unlike you I'm not going to whine about a decision that was made that I chose not to contribute to the making of. You are just a lazy person who wants everything your way but without having to actually contribute anything.
Simple, choose the UNIX way, let the systemd/gnome people create another downstream distro, and let their users have the choice.
No, how should they have gone about the process of considering the change? Or are you just saying nobody should ever change from the UNIX way of doing things? It isn't your decision to make, they asked for feedback and you chose not to give it so you lose out of pure laziness.
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An iphone 4 ran iOS 7 (4 years later) which is better than any other phone I know. And abandonment is a little overstated, because the phone works fine with iOS 7
The iPhone4 runs like crap with iOS7, I've personally tried it but you can read all the reviews over the net if you don't believe me. As for support I would certainly expect decent support from Apple because unlike any other phone manufacturer they control all the hardware and software, they don't have to worry that the software they develop has to run well on hundreds of thousands of different hardware configurations, they only have a handful and given the crap performance of iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 it seems they only went as far as "does it run at all".
In all likelihood, Apple will release a quad core update sooner rather then later. Holding off for 6 months gives them plenty of time to design the new hardware while also giving them the opportunity to make headlines once again in 6 months time.
And that's what it's about isn't it, there's no reason the richest tech company in the world couldn't have produced a quad core variant in that time but now they already have the next mac mini in reserve ready to go.
The benchmarks say that the CPU of the entry-level late 2014 Mac Mini is only 3.8% slower than the entry-level late 2012 Mac Mini. However, the TDP is also 57.1% lower (from 35W to 15W).
But it's a desktop PC, sacrificing a bit of power for a lower TDP is great in a laptop but to go 2 years on a desktop and release a system with a decrease in performance with only a lower TDP to show for it is pretty lame.
Good thing they're doing this feedback program then.
That's just it, you can't. The classic desktop is gone..or hidden to the point where system breaking hacks are needed to bring it back, and it's bugged.
What do you mean it's gone? All the elements are there, just with a new theme.
This article is talking about the new control panel they've mangled.
Yes they do seem to have a new control panel in development, I don't see why they couldn't have used the old one with revamped icons in a metro container. But that's why they have this feedback program I suppose.
Administration UI not changing is important for people who need to walk other people through PC administration over the telephone.
But administration UIs change all the time often out of necessity, in fact they are even customizable. You don't expect the admin UI for Windows 95 to be the same as the one for Windows 7.
It is just that the changes they made lately seem very counter intuitive to me.
What part of it is counter-intuitive? It's all the same concepts as before, sure if you want to administer your PC you may find things in slightly different places or named slightly different but I can't say I do that very often, I use my PC to run programs and those programs run just the same as they always have.
As far as control panel is concerned I just use search because the actual location of things changes based on the size of the window anyway.
How does it really affect you? Sure they changed the UI just like they did with 3.x to 9x and then 9x to 7 but with 10 they've put the start menu back so the only real change is the desktop theme, and even that you can put back to classic if you want. They've improved it to use less system resources as well which is good for any intensive computing tasks like games.
Sure 8 was confusing to Windows users that expected the desktop and a start menu but that's what 10 gives you.
Certainly sounds like a bad trackpad driver otherwise it would be happening to everybody, which it isn't.
But after a while such "training wheels" get annoying and slow you down.
At which point you turn them off.
I am talking about the system functionality. What the hell requires sound or serious graphics on a daily basis in Linux?
Most things that people do with their computers, you know like web browsing, watching video, listening to music and then of course professionals want to do things like audio, video and photo editing/production, architectural, factory and product design/engineering/simulation/visualization.
Of course, an admin only needs command line ;)
And most people don't get a computer just to administer it.
I couldn't care less about how pretty it looks...I want it to WORK PROPERLY.
These days the issues with operating systems (Windows, Linux (incl. Android) or OSX) are more related to the user installing malicious software than the actual operating system working incorrectly. Actual operating system crashes - even those that stem from bad kernel-mode drivers - are few and far between these days on any of the modern operating systems, we've come a long way from the days of Windows 9x, MacOS and the early versions of Caldera.
Wrong. The surface pro is MS playing its usual game of cloning a market leader (embrace), in this case the iPad, and adding features to it (extend), i.e. a keyboard.
How is it a "clone" of an iPad? Hardware and software-wise it's a laptop with a touchscreen, active digitizer and detachable keyboard. Yes the iPad also has a touchscreen, that hardly makes every other device with a touchscreen an "iPad clone".
Apple bought Beats; why would they feature a competitor's product in their stores?
Because they make a profit selling them, which is why they also stock the products of competitors like Sennheiser, Urbanears and RHA.
We can always go and compare a gaming rig to a proper business laptop, but that just doesn't make sense.
As always, it depends on what you are looking for. Arguing specs and price is just retarded when you aren't specifying a use case, whether you spend more money on a faster SSD or you sacrifice battery life for a more powerful GPU depends solely on what you are going to use it for so unless you are comparing identical hardware you can draw absolutely zero conclusion until then.
If I'm going to pay someone to program, then it doesn't matter whether the source is open to me or not, does it.
Well in effect you can pay anybody to fix it because the source is available to everybody but with closed source the only people you can pay to fix it are those who wrote it (or a select few who have source access). However, from a practical standpoint nobody is contracting random developers to make changes to their software except large corporations, to an individual end user in a practical sense you are right: the fact that it's open source probably doesn't matter to them.
Stop pinging me and I will be able to.
I'm not "pinging" you, what the hell are you talking about? Even so, you see a notification you lack the self control to not reply? ... I guess we'll find out shortly.
You're not proving anything, neither am I. I'm not complaining to you though, we're on /. for god's sake.
Exactly, you think anybody involved in the decision making process is actually reading this and taking notice that some random on the internet doesn't like systemd? No, of course not.
What does that even mean?
That is similar to what is going on with PC laptops.
So? We're talking about MacBooks, it was great that you could do it back then but now that those MacBooks have been replaced by the MacBook Air you can't do those things anymore which is a shame because it was so useful and you could keep an older system going for much longer before needing to upgrade.
For my 2006 Black MacBook, I maxed out the RAM to 2GB by using cheaper memory modules from Other World Computing (OWC). I popped in a OWC 120GB SSD for less than a $100 last year. Although Apple still charges $129 for replacement batteries, I can get them for $75 through OWC or $35 on eBay from China.
Yeah that was back then, you can't do that anymore. The MacBook was replaced by the MacBook Air in which the battery and RAM are soldered-in components. Not sure if these new just-announced models have the SSD soldered in now.
I *am* a developer. This was not the Debian "developer"'s decision. That's what a GR would have been for, for example. What happened there was pure politics, but you're too preoccupied with proving your silly point that no one has a right to complain against that decision, because everyone's lazy to understand that.
Complain all you want, but complain to the people responsible, it was their decision to make, not yours and not mine.
You keep riding around on this for 3 or 4 posts already, you are trolling.
No, I'm not and you don't believe that, you've claimed to leave the discussion several times and you keep returning which confirms you know I'm not trolling.
Also, You're not an admin obviously and don't have anything at stake here
Right, I don't have anything at stake here which is why I can view this objectively, unlike you.
Something you have exceptional difficulty understanding is what Debian is, what it's community is, and what a big part of the userbase needs.
No I'm perfectly aware of that.
You seem to not quite understand the issue, maybe you should check out a couple of the discussions?
I understand the issue fine, the Debian developers are not ruled by a dictatorship or forced to do anything, it's the submissive attitude that stops them from going their own way.
SystemD is not an init system. Go have a look at one of the links I supplied to you.
I didn't say it was, but part of it is.
I'm done with this discussion.
Yes as you have said multiple times already, yet you're still here.
We're talking about totally different things.
Oh hooray! He finally gets it!
I have the right to do whatever I fucking feel like
Of course you do, as does everybody involved in Debian development and those pushing systemd.
I for one know that this change is detrimental, because I'll actually have to deal with it, as part of the Debian community I also have the right to voice my opinion on this matter and demand that they continue on the path that they've been for the last decade and more.
So do that! This is what I said from the beginning, if you aren't a contributor and you aren't voicing your opinion to them in the discussions on this topic then how exactly do you think you're going to get your way?
I also have the right to tell them to fuck off and go somewhere else (along with many others), which I'm gonna have to reluctantly do
Yes, that is one of the choices. Unfortunately for all the "freedom" of free software ultimately the effort involved means it isn't really free in any practical sense.
Ok obviously you're getting very very angry so how about I try this a different way for you. Since I don't have an opinion on this systemd debate and I don't care about Linux init systems - something you have had exceptional difficulty understanding - I'll take your arguments, yes they were just ad hominem attacks and not very informative but I don't care so I'll accept your position on this:
systemd is terrible and should never have been implemented by anybody.
Ok? But that still does not give you any right whatsoever to tell the Debian developers what they should or should not do. You don't like that choice? Well tough luck, get over yourself, it's not your choice to make.
Who's they? The Debian community, or the couple of fuckwads deciding for everyone else?
"They" is indeed whoever is in charge of that area of development, if it's only a couple of people and the rest of the community is against them then the solution is obvious: stop being a submissive and knuckling-under to what those "couple of fuckwads" have decided, drop those people and carry on as normal.
I expect if you reply your sanity will be overwhelmed by your emotional attachment to the issue and you'll be all angry but try to keep a level head and understand?
See, when people talk about MS fucking someone over, even though users pay money, no one ever get's this idea of telling them that "you don't contribute so go fuck yourself!"
No, with Microsoft you cannot contribute, with a project like Debian you can.
As you don't know who the fuck you're dealing with, you are committing a grave error to think of me as lazy, clinging to your "I don't like entitlist people" bullshit.
Bitch all you want, the fact is you're complaining that others didn't do what you wanted them to, you have no power over what others do nor should you, the fact that you think they should have done what you want them to do is offensive.
Of course, this is just a recommendation and you can do whatever the fuck you want as long as you respect the rights of other people (or not and face the consequences).
Except you don't do that, it is their right to do what they want, not yours!
Please tell me why this change was necessary in the first place? Oh you can't? Because it wasn't!
I don't know, frankly I don't really care nor is that in any way the point, but that is precisely why you answer my question with another question.
It. doesn't. matter. whether. I. voted. or. not! If you want to insist on your argument, please prove to me that it did.
Ah yes, "my candidate didn't get in so I'm angry even though I didn't vote because my vote doesn't matter".
Well, I did contribute to it
Then show me.
What you're saying sounds to me exactly like: "I'm not a politician, so they should do whatever they please."
Then you aren't reading, if you read the whole sentence it is about them making a decision, publicly debating it and you only complaining after the fact. Look at how much effort you've gone to and continue to go to in continuing to complain to me about this.
If you're really so submissive/obedient, it doesn't mean that everyone is.
Actually the submissive is you, ultimately you complain to me rather than to the people responsible. Frankly I don't care, I have no horse in this race, but you do, you have an issue with it but refuse to bring it up with people that actually make the decsions...why is that?
No problem, go and make your SystemD/Linux, or SystemD Debian/Linux or your other project or downstream distro but LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE WITH YOUR BLOATED SHIT, LENNART!
Holy crap this is really too much for you, a projecting emotional response to your own failure at reading comprehension. Let's try this once again:
I don't care about Linux init systems whatsoever this is not about init systems but rather about the right of the Debian foundation to make their own choices and not be beholden to people like you who think they should be in control of others.
If it's so good, prove it by merit, not politics, marketing, and propaganda.
Are you actually retarded? I already told you multiple times that I don't give a shit about systemd in any form. Stop projecting, you so badly want me to be some systemd proponent but I'm not.
I wonder how many times a mental defective such as yourself requires this to be told to them before they understand.
Well there have been a number of stories about Docker on Slashdot and there are links in the story that explain what it is as well if you hadn't read the previous stories and don't know what it is.
So, are you also one of the people that block the passing lane on the highway, because the sign says 55?
No, you are free to do whatever you like, nobody is stopping you. What you are complaining about is that other people won't do what you want done for you.
And I'm in opposition of (stupid) knee-jerk decisions of a distro oriented more or less towards the knowledgeable crowd of users
Then get involved with it.
It's a shame that the init choice is being taken away from the users.
You have a choice! You just want it all done for you. You can maintain it yourself or move to another distro, but you have this entitlist mentality that all these people should do all this work for you when you contribute nothing to them.
Since you've given me that systemd link, here's some more (I'll skip upstart):
Yes there are many debates on the init systems, none of which I am interested in, including systemd.
I have decided to not write anything in this section
Are you dense? I'm not in opposition of or support of systemd, I couldn't give a shit either way, I've already explained this. Why are you so desperate to debate systemd with me when I have no position on it but so desperate to avoid debating it with the people who make the decision on it?
That reads to me like: "I'm not going to oppose a government decision, because I'm not a politician."
Yes it would if you selectively comment, whether you did that or you just didn't read the sentence: ", I don't contribute to the distro and I didn't contribute to the decision on it."
See unlike you I'm not going to whine about a decision that was made that I chose not to contribute to the making of. You are just a lazy person who wants everything your way but without having to actually contribute anything.
Simple, choose the UNIX way, let the systemd/gnome people create another downstream distro, and let their users have the choice.
No, how should they have gone about the process of considering the change? Or are you just saying nobody should ever change from the UNIX way of doing things? It isn't your decision to make, they asked for feedback and you chose not to give it so you lose out of pure laziness.