I'd like to see a performance comparison between a linux box, and a w2k (the w being windows, not Wolfenstein) server, in a mid size buisness setting (a couple hundred users) where the extra money saved on server softwareby using linux is applied to better hardware for the linux box. Therefore, the same amount of money is spent on each server overall. Since the linux box will have substantially better hardware, i bet it would beat the pants off W2k. IMHO this is where linux can shine.
-Dan
P.S. W2k = Wolfenstein 2000, w2k = windows 2000 and w2k + o2k is worse than y2k
Computer names @ purdue are seemingly random. Expert is the main Sun box, Others are lore, postoffice (wonder what that one is) oasis, etc.
Purdue North Central otoh, has names by precious gemstones, sapphire, ruby, etc. These are pretty cool..
At work, our names are descriptive of the machine's location and function. This is set by a standard naming scheme set forth by the powers that be. Val1A01 tells me what location, and what type of server
On my personal network, i'm kinda random. herbert, spaceball1 (my main machine), hellifiknow... named my friend's screwdriver because were couldn't think of a name, and there was a screwdriver (tool, not beverage) on the desk next to it.
Honesty is just one of the qualities we look for in a politician. (but rarely find) People want Ventura out not because of his honesty, but because he's an idiot. The honesty facilitates seeing him for who he is, and who he is is what the people of Minnesota don't like. He runs around doing whatever he wants and saying whatever he wants. It's great that he's honest, but he should learn when to shut his trap. In addition, he hasn't done anything to benefit his state. When have you heard his name in the news regarding anything that has to do with the governer's job?
I may not be fully informed on this topic, but I'll calling this how i see it. Some insight from a Minnesotian would be beneficial.
Before i would ever wear a computer, i would have terminals everywhere. One in the car to calculate gas mileage, keep track of gas expenditures, etc. One on the fridge to tell me when i am low on something, and when the milk is bad (to avoid a reoccourance of this morning, ugh). This combined with a palm-pilot-like device (when i'm away, i.e. @ the grocery store) using some sort of unobtrusive authentication similar to a proximity card (which will be carried, not worn), coupled with wireless internet access and VPN, would be the way to go. I want to use the computer, not wear it. I get headaches if i look at a crt for too many consecutive hours, i want to be able to get away from the stuff easily.
I fail to see how this could be bad on any front. Competition forces both parties involved to make their product better in order to edge out the opposition. This helps linux grow as both suse and rh will develop new things for linux. MS stifles innovation by eliminating competition. We don't want to go down that road.
As I mentioned, this system would take at _least_ 30 years to come about, and by that time the web, or another equal opportunity medium will prevail as the source for news.
Paper will soon only hold history, News will be transferred electronically.
Currently only large newspapers have the resources to distribute their publication in mass quantities, and only a few even cover the United States, let alone the world. As more people turn to the web for news, more sites will step up to provide the news. The major players in print will still be around in electronic form, but may others will jump in while it is easy for them to do so. Specialized sites (i.e./. ) will also flourish.
The press right now has more control that you may think. Anything you read in print has already been pre-chewed for you, and the spin doctors have had their way with it.
Personally, i believe that it may balance things out more, and i'm not sure what would hinder planning: please explain.
If in the future there is an online democracy based on the voting of all citizens, it must be on a volunteer basis. If it were by appointment, similar to Jury duty, poor decisions would be made by people who are uneducated on the subject at hand. A volunteer symposium could function as an auxiliary to Congress along with the current House and Senate, and/or eventually replace both of them. The volunteer aspect of it would let those who are interested in a certain issue voice their opinion, and uninterested parties could opt to not waste their time. Any bill that had a very low voter turnout could be thrown out on the basis that there was no interest in it, either way.
Such a system could introduce what i would call "Do or die legislation". In such a system, the topic of gun control could be raised, if there was low voter turnout, or the vote was near even, the current laws would not change, whereas if the vote was sided either way, the laws would be rewritten to represent the views of the majority. Such a rewrite would then have to be ratified by those who voted for the majority side.
Do or die legislation would probably stop some boneheaded laws from being passed, as either they would get no attention, or then would be voted down.
But then, such a system is very far off into the future. It would obviously require major changes to the Constitution, or would be implemented by another country.
This might be the first Katz feature that i found worth the read. It's hard for some of us who live and breathe technology to see the views of those who struggle with it. Here's a guy who knows he doesn't know much, was willing to do some reading, and now is a linux user. I can remember installing slackware the first time on my machine, with help over the phone, not knowing what i was doing, but i can't go back to that. Judging the ease of installation and use is near impossible for someone who knows what's going on. A story like this from someone like Katz shows us what we can't see, linux from the user's perspective.
Is it just me, or does she sound like someone who knows what's going but pretending to be a clueless newbie? Something about the way a lot of it is worded sounds to me like she actually knows something (after all, she got an old version of caldera working on a presumably newer machine) Maybe she's just playing a dumb newbie for the article.....
As soon as there would be any such thing as chlotho, it would be chlotho.gov, not.org. The government can control the TV because there are a few people/organizations that control nearly all of the television channels. The great thing about the web (thus far) is that the government has no place to put it's spin doctors and blur the truth. If there was such a think as chlotho.gov, the government would make sure that you don't see any view other than theirs. Sad but true.
You can have your pre-chewed tasteless news if you want it, but i want the real stuff, the truth, and the uncut. If we let go of our ability to control what we see and give it up to someone else, we lose our freedom of speech. There is no happy balance. Only ignorance is bliss.
Maybe i've lost it, maybe i've listened to mancow too much, or maybe watched the matrix too many times, but i for one don't want a filter that decides what i can and can't see. That's my own decision, thank you very much.
"...and i'll get the duke, and a case of whiskey, and drive down to texas... "
I think we should have a rating system for all/. posts similar to the moderation system on comments. That way i can see today's top news first on the main page, and also see if a feature is worth clicking on the "Read More" link....
I'm not saying that i don't like it because i don't agree with it. The article is out of style, and offtopic from everything else here, I go to/. for certain kinds of information, and other sites for different stories. I expect to come here everyday and find stories that say linux is great, because that's what/. largely is, not the kind of fluff bullshit this guy puts out sometimes...
This site is "news for nerds. stuff that matters." not "news for everyone. everything under the sun."
This article seems like the kind of column i'd find in a magazine sitting in a doctor's office. Jon should try to understand that his audience on/. is primarily made of people who embrace new technoligies, and love gadgets. They don't decrease our free time, it's what we chose to do with our free time.
Most writers and speakers first try and understand their audience before writing. I could see this kind of article be interesting to people who read mainstream media magazines, but not to me/us. Write something that doesn't make me regret clicking on "Read More" for once Jon.
-Dan
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I could be wrong, but i believe he was introduced with the 2.0.0 kernel
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Personally, i feel that the anti-sexist movement is stonger than sexism, at least in my workplace. We have a female in desktop support who really doesn't have a clue. She can't even troubleshoot routine win95 problems. She calls in sick once a week on average, is always late, and often leaves early. This has been going on for months and I think that management is afraid to fire her from an otherwise 100% male department because of the threat of being accused of being sexist and the posibilty of a lawsuit. There are bad employees both male and female, and she's one of them. But i really think that if it were a guy in that position, he would have been long gone.
And yes, i do work with Win95 and NT, at home i run linux (Debain) you have to PAY me to use M$.;) (we have a roomful of NT servers, but unfortuantely, i am not in a position to make decisions on what software we use, i'm but a lowly Co-Op)
Maybe it's just me, but IMHO the less the government is involved in the net, opensource and some other things the better. Even if we had ONE politician who knew what he was talking about, he might do more harm than good. Look at how many laws have limited the advancement of computers. Stopping the export of high encryption, limiting the data transfer rate over POTS. These are two examples of where we would have been better off without government intervention.
I'm not a anarchist, but there are some things that we're better off not having the government touch.
How many of you can rember when you were 13-19 years old and said "parents just don't understand" I have a eerily similar feeling about this. If they don't understand what they're regulating (which i believe most of them don't) they will make bad decisions (they being politicians)
And besides, how will the american government regulate such things that are developed internationally? Do we want to fragment linux into US and non-US versions??
Voting for any political figure for such is reason is a foolish thing. It's the same as the person who sees a politician in a public place and shakes his/her hand. (plenty of people do this) You need to vote for someone because you agree with what he says and what he supports. (even if he is actually lying and goes back on it once he's in office) If a politician can write USB drivers for linux in his spare time, that may make him a good coder, but does not mean he'd be a good president/senator/grand PooBah.
On the other hand, if he fought against net censorship, and stopped some of the boneheaded net related laws from being passed, i might support him, but i can compile my own kernel, and need my president to do other things for me.
*blantant brown nosing* First off, i like to point out that this site already has an excellent system for this, and the fact that rob is thinking more about this shows that he really loves this site, his work, us, penguins, Linus, the world, etc. */blatant brown nosing*
that said, i'm not sure i like the whole meta moderation bit, what happens when people abuse that? meta meta moderation?
on the other hand, i like the idea that someone else had pointed out in a previous moderation related story. (i apologize for not knowing where i saw it...) if it took two people to moderate a comment down (or up) before it lost a point, two moderators would have to agree. while that doesn't solve the problem totally, and certainly doesn't stop world hunger, it would take two idiots to make a bad decision. I know it would also make it harder to give the good comments the credit they deserve, but based on the statistic that less than 20% of moderation is considered "bad" it would improve things overall. Other than that, i think we have a great system here. i know i deserve the karma i have (we all have to be immature sometime right? but i'm over that...) We all know that people tend to resist change, and that's why any change or talk of it get people worked up, but relax,/. is already great, anything else is just icing on the cake.
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I'd like to see a performance comparison between a linux box, and a w2k (the w being windows, not Wolfenstein) server, in a mid size buisness setting (a couple hundred users) where the extra money saved on server softwareby using linux is applied to better hardware for the linux box. Therefore, the same amount of money is spent on each server overall. Since the linux box will have substantially better hardware, i bet it would beat the pants off W2k.
IMHO this is where linux can shine.
-Dan
P.S. W2k = Wolfenstein 2000, w2k = windows 2000
and w2k + o2k is worse than y2k
Computer names @ purdue are seemingly random. Expert is the main Sun box, Others are lore, postoffice (wonder what that one is) oasis, etc.
;)
Purdue North Central otoh, has names by precious gemstones, sapphire, ruby, etc. These are pretty cool..
At work, our names are descriptive of the machine's location and function. This is set by a standard naming scheme set forth by the powers that be. Val1A01 tells me what location, and what type of server
On my personal network, i'm kinda random. herbert, spaceball1 (my main machine), hellifiknow... named my friend's screwdriver because were couldn't think of a name, and there was a screwdriver (tool, not beverage) on the desk next to it.
As if anyone really cares
-Dan
do you think running linux on these things we could get them to do coordinated things like syncronized swimming, rockette AIBO's and such?
I'd just be impressed if it can chase it's tail, get the paper and pee on the rug, just like a real dog....
-Dan
(attempted humor)
Yeah, it seems that the whole machine crashed... Some problem with X...
(/attempted humor)
-Dan
Honesty is just one of the qualities we look for in a politician. (but rarely find) People want Ventura out not because of his honesty, but because he's an idiot. The honesty facilitates seeing him for who he is, and who he is is what the people of Minnesota don't like. He runs around doing whatever he wants and saying whatever he wants. It's great that he's honest, but he should learn when to shut his trap. In addition, he hasn't done anything to benefit his state. When have you heard his name in the news regarding anything that has to do with the governer's job?
I may not be fully informed on this topic, but I'll calling this how i see it. Some insight from a Minnesotian would be beneficial.
Before i would ever wear a computer, i would have terminals everywhere. One in the car to calculate gas mileage, keep track of gas expenditures, etc. One on the fridge to tell me when i am low on something, and when the milk is bad (to avoid a reoccourance of this morning, ugh). This combined with a palm-pilot-like device (when i'm away, i.e. @ the grocery store) using some sort of unobtrusive authentication similar to a proximity card (which will be carried, not worn), coupled with wireless internet access and VPN, would be the way to go. I want to use the computer, not wear it. I get headaches if i look at a crt for too many consecutive hours, i want to be able to get away from the stuff easily.
-Dan
Has anyone seen anywhere to purchase the Spyderco tool that was on /. about 6-8 months ago? I want one of those....
This thing could come in very handy too. (i'd prefer a metal handle verson though.... )
-Dan
We should name it Ork!
I fail to see how this could be bad on any front. Competition forces both parties involved to make their product better in order to edge out the opposition. This helps linux grow as both suse and rh will develop new things for linux. MS stifles innovation by eliminating competition. We don't want to go down that road.
-Dan
As I mentioned, this system would take at _least_ 30 years to come about, and by that time the web, or another equal opportunity medium will prevail as the source for news.
/. ) will also flourish.
Paper will soon only hold history, News will be transferred electronically.
Currently only large newspapers have the resources to distribute their publication in mass quantities, and only a few even cover the United States, let alone the world. As more people turn to the web for news, more sites will step up to provide the news. The major players in print will still be around in electronic form, but may others will jump in while it is easy for them to do so. Specialized sites (i.e.
The press right now has more control that you may think. Anything you read in print has already been pre-chewed for you, and the spin doctors have had their way with it.
Personally, i believe that it may balance things out more, and i'm not sure what would hinder planning: please explain.
-Dan
If in the future there is an online democracy based on the voting of all citizens, it must be on a volunteer basis. If it were by appointment, similar to Jury duty, poor decisions would be made by people who are uneducated on the subject at hand. A volunteer symposium could function as an auxiliary to Congress along with the current House and Senate, and/or eventually replace both of them. The volunteer aspect of it would let those who are interested in a certain issue voice their opinion, and uninterested parties could opt to not waste their time. Any bill that had a very low voter turnout could be thrown out on the basis that there was no interest in it, either way.
Such a system could introduce what i would call "Do or die legislation". In such a system, the topic of gun control could be raised, if there was low voter turnout, or the vote was near even, the current laws would not change, whereas if the vote was sided either way, the laws would be rewritten to represent the views of the majority. Such a rewrite would then have to be ratified by those who voted for the majority side.
Do or die legislation would probably stop some boneheaded laws from being passed, as either they would get no attention, or then would be voted down.
But then, such a system is very far off into the future. It would obviously require major changes to the Constitution, or would be implemented by another country.
This might be the first Katz feature that i found worth the read. It's hard for some of us who live and breathe technology to see the views of those who struggle with it. Here's a guy who knows he doesn't know much, was willing to do some reading, and now is a linux user. I can remember installing slackware the first time on my machine, with help over the phone, not knowing what i was doing, but i can't go back to that. Judging the ease of installation and use is near impossible for someone who knows what's going on. A story like this from someone like Katz shows us what we can't see, linux from the user's perspective.
After all, i know i lost a lot of points for not labeling my answers and specifying units!
Is it just me, or does she sound like someone who knows what's going but pretending to be a clueless newbie? Something about the way a lot of it is worded sounds to me like she actually knows something (after all, she got an old version of caldera working on a presumably newer machine) Maybe she's just playing a dumb newbie for the article.....
How about a "Ask ________, the Carpal Tunnel Expert Anything." This could be quite useful. Anyone know of an expert we could harass???
As soon as there would be any such thing as chlotho, it would be chlotho.gov, not .org. The government can control the TV because there are a few people/organizations that control nearly all of the television channels. The great thing about the web (thus far) is that the government has no place to put it's spin doctors and blur the truth. If there was such a think as chlotho.gov, the government would make sure that you don't see any view other than theirs. Sad but true.
You can have your pre-chewed tasteless news if you want it, but i want the real stuff, the truth, and the uncut. If we let go of our ability to control what we see and give it up to someone else, we lose our freedom of speech. There is no happy balance. Only ignorance is bliss.
Maybe i've lost it, maybe i've listened to mancow too much, or maybe watched the matrix too many times, but i for one don't want a filter that decides what i can and can't see. That's my own decision, thank you very much.
"...and i'll get the duke, and a case of whiskey, and drive down to texas... "
I think we should have a rating system for all /. posts similar to the moderation system on comments. That way i can see today's top news first on the main page, and also see if a feature is worth clicking on the "Read More" link....
Just my 2 copper coins
I'm not saying that i don't like it because i don't agree with it. /. for certain kinds of information, and other sites for different stories. /. largely is, not the kind of fluff bullshit this guy puts out sometimes...
The article is out of style, and offtopic from everything else here, I go to
I expect to come here everyday and find stories that say linux is great, because that's what
This site is "news for nerds. stuff that matters." not "news for everyone. everything under the sun."
This article seems like the kind of column i'd find in a magazine sitting in a doctor's office. Jon should try to understand that his audience on /. is primarily made of people who embrace new technoligies, and love gadgets. They don't decrease our free time, it's what we chose to do with our free time.
Most writers and speakers first try and understand their audience before writing. I could see this kind of article be interesting to people who read mainstream media magazines, but not to me/us. Write something that doesn't make me regret clicking on "Read More" for once Jon.
-Dan
I could be wrong, but i believe he was introduced with the 2.0.0 kernel
Personally, i feel that the anti-sexist movement is stonger than sexism, at least in my workplace. We have a female in desktop support who really doesn't have a clue. She can't even troubleshoot routine win95 problems. She calls in sick once a week on average, is always late, and often leaves early. This has been going on for months and I think that management is afraid to fire her from an otherwise 100% male department because of the threat of being accused of being sexist and the posibilty of a lawsuit. There are bad employees both male and female, and she's one of them. But i really think that if it were a guy in that position, he would have been long gone.
;)
And yes, i do work with Win95 and NT, at home i run linux (Debain) you have to PAY me to use M$.
(we have a roomful of NT servers, but unfortuantely, i am not in a position to make decisions on what software we use, i'm but a lowly Co-Op)
Maybe it's just me, but IMHO the less the government is involved in the net, opensource and some other things the better. Even if we had ONE politician who knew what he was talking about, he might do more harm than good. Look at how many laws have limited the advancement of computers. Stopping the export of high encryption, limiting the data transfer rate over POTS. These are two examples of where we would have been better off without government intervention.
I'm not a anarchist, but there are some things that we're better off not having the government touch.
How many of you can rember when you were 13-19 years old and said "parents just don't understand" I have a eerily similar feeling about this. If they don't understand what they're regulating (which i believe most of them don't) they will make bad decisions (they being politicians)
And besides, how will the american government regulate such things that are developed internationally? Do we want to fragment linux into US and non-US versions??
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Voting for any political figure for such is reason is a foolish thing. It's the same as the person who sees a politician in a public place and shakes his/her hand. (plenty of people do this) You need to vote for someone because you agree with what he says and what he supports. (even if he is actually lying and goes back on it once he's in office) If a politician can write USB drivers for linux in his spare time, that may make him a good coder, but does not mean he'd be a good president/senator/grand PooBah.
On the other hand, if he fought against net censorship, and stopped some of the boneheaded net related laws from being passed, i might support him, but i can compile my own kernel, and need my president to do other things for me.
-Dan
*blantant brown nosing*
/. is already great, anything else is just icing on the cake.
First off, i like to point out that this site already has an excellent system for this, and the fact that rob is thinking more about this shows that he really loves this site, his work, us, penguins, Linus, the world, etc.
*/blatant brown nosing*
that said, i'm not sure i like the whole meta moderation bit, what happens when people abuse that? meta meta moderation?
on the other hand, i like the idea that someone else had pointed out in a previous moderation related story. (i apologize for not knowing where i saw it...) if it took two people to moderate a comment down (or up) before it lost a point, two moderators would have to agree. while that doesn't solve the problem totally, and certainly doesn't stop world hunger, it would take two idiots to make a bad decision. I know it would also make it harder to give the good comments the credit they deserve, but based on the statistic that less than 20% of moderation is considered "bad" it would improve things overall. Other than that, i think we have a great system here. i know i deserve the karma i have (we all have to be immature sometime right? but i'm over that...) We all know that people tend to resist change, and that's why any change or talk of it get people worked up, but relax,
-Dan
It's not something for MS to notice... Look @ the URL... you can change it if you want...
. idc?Product=Linux
For a scary prospect, check this out....
http://support.microsoft.com/isapi/support/pass