They have all sorts of Free Software Liscences they recomend against.
Even a handful of Copy-lefted ones.
This is essentially a copy left for everyone escept Apple, who gets BSD like (from the FSF comments, I couldn't find that in the actual liscense though).
practically every non GPL compatible Copy-Left on their site says "though it is OK to use this software we recomend against using the liscense for new software".
And all the BSDish ones recomend using the X11 liscense instead. I don't see how this is news one bit.
I would settle for a diablo2 style "save and exit" as it would at least prevent some abuse of the save right before a boss and you dont have to fight back to it technique.
I would say the DII style save is best, because the save point in the middle of a dungeon means that you are right next the the boss. It makes save abuse in a game easier then save at any point, not harder. I agree that lack of quick save sucks, and newer games allow a quick save that get deleted when you start back up, so it is like a saved state that is non returnable too.
I found it hard not to use the save points as clues to when a bos is coming when I play games, and it makes it much easier. If I have a spell that is going to heal 75% of my health and I am at 750/1000 HP I will not waste 500 HP normally. But I sure as hell will at that save point.
This makes it real easy to limp along through the easy fights using almost nothing and then when the boss is coming be ready.
Last RPG I played (GrandiaII) I lost my party only twice, and this was in an area where you were supposed to try and dodge the enemies because within the first couple rounds of fighting they did an attack that killed everybody (to get the dragon egg (I think) if you've played).
Save spots suck hard core an way you cut it.
D2 saving was great because you could not abuse it at all (unless you crashed the program immediatly after something bad) because it auto saved every 3 minutes or so. The only problem was you had to start at your last way point when you came back.
Also I would like to note that despite the anti-consolidation anti-clearchannel reports/jokes often heard on NPR Clear Channel gives them lots of money (they get thank yous between programs quite often in my area (WHYY)).
The reason is that NPR operates low cost (many low staff rebroadcasting stations) public radio and CC operates low cost commercial radio. Together they make sure that no small stations can take over there market. NPR needs all the donation they can get, and it is the closest thing to community radio available in a lot of markets, if people instead donated to the real thing they would end. The death of NPR for community radio would actually probably be a bad thing, the quality of NPR is very good.
CC on the other hand does not need every listener they can get to profit or stay in business(with the amount of adds and low amount of work they need to do they are making money hand over fist), but they are just greedy SOB's that want every penny they can.
the fact that they have alligned themselves together makes me sad, and even though I listen to NPR instead of sending them money I send a letter every pledge drive that states my beliefs (LPFM is good, and CC sucks) as an explenation of why I send them no money.
As a side note. I was disheartened to learn that my small state (Delaware) has the countries last independant news radio station (WILM). The station is probably listenable by less then 500,000 people and yet continually gets rained on with national awards due to its good news reporting. Is the nation in really such a sad state that there is no good news out there? I mean a smaller station in NY could get far more listeners then ours, and yet they can't keep independant and fail to beat our dinky little area in quality?
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sort of, but using the idea of the extra DNS record you have less of a diolog (theroretically less CPU
Here is a sample mail header: Return-Path: Received: from flex.com (flex.com 206.126.0.13])by viper.oldcity.dca.net (8.11.6/8.9.3/DCANET)with ESMTP id h6EDrkN07810 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:53:46 -0400
Received: from [192.168.0.102] (pcp01938479pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net [68.83.147.176])
by flex.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6EDrgjx074778;
Mon, 14 Jul 2003 03:53:42 -1000 (HST)
(envelope-from ddwornik@flex.com) From: Drake Dwornik
This message was sent from my comcast cable modem through flex.com in Hawaii they use POPB4 authentication. It is from ddwornik@flex.com
flex.com knows they are getting lots of messages to rely so they use POPB4 to authenticate (though password would work too).
Viper.oldcity.dca.net (a work account that is our private domain, not DCA.net but they host us) should get this mail and say, hmmm should I accept this? lets check the added DNS field for flex.com. oh yes 68.83.147.176 is on the list, great I can take it.
There is no reason I see that 192.168.0.102 (the origin) needs to be trusted only the relay itself.
This would prevent me from using smtp-relay.dca.net to send spam to dca.net customers (wich is now possible to at least a point, you would probably be dropped real fast though).
Playing around with telnet and port 25 pretending I was Mast0r Hax0r I fould that to send fake e-mail to domain x.com use mail.x.com as your relay and you could send to its customers, because that is where the mail went for that domain (now I am smart enough to use mx records). I would assume that a lot of the mass spamming to randomly generated account names at massive ISPs is done like that and this would prevent it.
There is no protocal hack possible to prevent people from setting up their own server or hijacking others to send it. That would require a central registry of valid servers much like SSL certificates are now.
What my solution would prevent is hijacked desktops from being relays without the spammer setting up a domain and adding their IP addresses to the extra record. And it would prevent me from using MS's releys to spam MS.
I hope I make sense here. I really like the idea of the extra DNS record. Though I don't think that any protocal hack will prevent fly by night offshore companies it can at least stem the illegal hacked desktops and immoral faked from addresses.
That is what I propose the pop-up menu should do. It can popup with the mouse pointer pointing at the previously-selected item, even if it is in a nested submenu.
The problem with that is that the mouse pointer is somewhere new everytime. The way autocad did it the menues were always in the same place, you always clicked the same place. You lose a little bit of the Fittsiness because you must move the mouse to the menu, but it is automatic to jump up there anyway. and I know tools is always in the same place everytime. If my mouse jumps to somewhere else in a sub menue everything has moved and I need to orient myself to find what I want. I see the same problem with scrolling menus, but I can assume you have worked that out well (I don't quite understand your description though). If there is a dedicated mouse button "menu" I tend to agree the pop-up menus are good (much like on the Amiga, saved screen realestate when it was at a premium).
Also, would these menues pop-up like the Gimp?
Or do you have some other plan?
Also, menus off the screen hide stuff, making it harder to find something that you don't quite know what you want.
The problem with pop-up at mouse windows is that all three buttons have uses in most apps now (click, paste, concise (context?) menu). So you eaither need to add a keybord stroke or fundimentily redesign and lose good functionality.
Also, a personal pet peeve is things with memory, such as the new windows menues. The memmory breaks consistancy, which means that I now need to really watch what I am doing. ex. Oops, save is where revert to saved is, I fucked myself.
If I know that I click, move 2 inches and click everytime I want to do something it is better then having click not move click 90% of the time.
I never even thought about the problem with top of screen menues and sloppy focus, but your solution seems workable.
Another problem that Menues at the top solves is the inconsistancy of window positions. If I have a thin window, like a ticker (bad example, because why would I want a to regularly access the menu, but it is the first thing that comes to mind) and put it on the buttom, for example just above the status bar of my web browser when I click the menu it is either above my mouse (Win2K) or with it's buttom lines up that the buttom of the screen (some X apps I'm pretty sure) or going off the screen (havn't seen that but I imagine some poorly made stuff it does). If the menu is always at the top, it is always to the top, click, down blah. I also find non context sensitive pop-up menus annoying (Gimp)
The menu at the top thing was more to address a new law I invented (though I am sure I am not the only one) when I first saw office 2K.
So AvitarX's law is consistancy is king, if I do the same thing everytime I can do it quick and without thinking.
I don't think key stroke click to get a menu is user friendly (it is efficient though) because it it requires two hands. There are plenty of non porn related reasons to want to only use the mouse (like browning the web while petting the cat and other "casual" uses of the computer. Forcing the menu to be a two handed operation I think is unfriendly.
I really think consistancy is king though, stuff should not adapt to behavior in such agregious ways as having you're mouse start equivelently 2 inches away from where it did last time. And menu options should not disapear especialy for less used stuff, that is the stuff I need to hunt for when I want it, I want to see it under tools, not click the 3 little arrows and then have it expand then find it, then have my menu altered until the OS forgets about my access to said item. Finally I go to find it, and is it a tool or what?
One thing nice that I remember from autocad (release 12 DOS) was that the menus would remember what you last did, so if I spellcheck, then want to again I can double click tools and not tools, go to spelling. That was real nice, espicialy since I would do the same thing over and over.
Oh well, I think about these things a lot, but don't have the skill, and I don't have the innitiative to put the time into getting it.
I agree wholeheartedly. I configured all those things in KDE about a month ago, due to my TV viewer not having an obvious always on top option.
Not Both Zapping ang Gaim buddy list, and tabbed window of conversations can be in out of the way places of a web-browser so I can watch TV, hassle friends, and generaly be a slash geek all at once.
Since the windows are not always on top though, I can also let easily pull my web-browser to the top for rediculous flash page etc.
Also valuble is alt-drag to move a window, so I can move a window without raising it.
Also the sloppy focus (I assume thats what point-to-type means?) is convienient, but I really don't think it is needed if a click doeasn't raise. I had to set it though, because it was too awkward to click to focus, but not have a window raise. How many brand new.casual users bump their mouse out of the window or into another input box when going to type? this could be a nightmare to make standard (I can't remember if mine does that now.
I do believe that most Distros have the first run of KDE ask for Motif/Mac/Windows style. This sets things like menues on top of screen, or in window (I prefer menues for focused window at top of screen because I never close the wrong app, closly stacked apps an be confusing sometimes), but it did not work well, because only 20% or so of my apps are KDE). It also sets focus and raise behaivior.
Off Topic Samba Question. I am somehow involved in the thread so I figured I'd ask. I have googled, but not found anything. I have not asked in any interactive forum though.
Anyway, is there a way that I can have Samba use my Unix Passwords without manually setting them?
It is a pain in my ass to adduser blah then do it for samba and have to reset the password.
Then I need to update both passwords if somebody decides to change their password (yes I totally administer a small network at work, people can not change their password without permission, due to <... long rant about job clipped...>
I'm just curious.
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Why does the very original IP need to matter.
If the fear is people faking mail, you simply need to require it went through the mail smtp server for that domain. Then the smtp server needs to authenticate all the clients. This would mean that the client IP is irrelavent, it just had to authenticate to a listed address/server.
You still have a problem with open/insecure releys, but that will always be a problem, an insecure system will always be crackable, and people who intentionally set stuff up to allow spamming will always be able to act trusted long enough to spam.
I would imagine keeping an eye out you could have a massive descent3 collection in no time for cheap.
Also Quake 3. Mods are lots of fun. The original game has a nice pace that newer stradegy based FPSs lack, though I play the newer ones more often, Quake 3 can refresh. It is real cheap on eBay. And runs on ancient Hardware.
Unreal Tornament is cross platform, but the new one needs more hardware (does it run on mac, I don't know, but assume so).
Quake 3 gives a huge variety of game play (within the tiny niche of FPS)
Will nerds who LAN party all day lose the extra weight?
I mean of course the fat nerds. You scrawny nerds might now even be able to tap into this.
I know 100W (75W proc) isn't much for a desktop, but it could probably power a laptop, or at least really extend it's life. Or bosses could have special low power desktops and pay the employees to power the system being blackout immune and less expensive. Just keep the Fresca in stron supply.
Could P0rn become healthy? Slight Calorie starvation greatly increases longevity, and lower overal coloric intake is the number dietery life span predicter.
Maybe for all j00 M$ Winbloze l00zr n00bs
real men lost a great one
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.htmlf ero Liscense.
Af
look at the first non-GPL compatable liscense. They clearly accept changes that match their Dogma.
They have all sorts of Free Software Liscences they recomend against.
Even a handful of Copy-lefted ones.
This is essentially a copy left for everyone escept Apple, who gets BSD like (from the FSF comments, I couldn't find that in the actual liscense though).
practically every non GPL compatible Copy-Left on their site says "though it is OK to use this software we recomend against using the liscense for new software".
And all the BSDish ones recomend using the X11 liscense instead. I don't see how this is news one bit.
Getting that wrong is unkowledgavle.
Doing a long rant about something you are not sure about and spewing mis-information is stupid.
the problem with select middle click is when pasting into something that already has data.
You have to select, then click and be careful not to auto select the whole thing. Then ctrl-u then middle click.
I find my self either loving select click to copy or hating it.
And both about the same.
whoa now, that AC was not me,
Call me the dozy slob.
Sega should never have gone exclusive Xbox for their games.
Noone had baught a sega game for years (Sega CD, Saturn, And DreamCast did poorly). People weren't phyched about sega.
Same with Nintendo and the GC.
The People with a SNES were phyched, but the millions of new gamers were like so what if we don't get Nintendo games.
Wow, you mean the Alaskan summer is artificial light?
Why can;t they just turn it off and live like normal people?
I would at least plea no contest and not guilty.
I would also not state in questioning I was willing to take up marterdom<SP> to aid the Taliban.
I would also not have any information to help them catch a coconspiritor<sp>
The FBI may have overstepped its bounds, but this guy is guilty.
If the FBI did overstep its bounds people should lose lose their jobs, but the guy is guilty.
I would settle for a diablo2 style "save and exit" as it would at least prevent some abuse of the save right before a boss and you dont have to fight back to it technique.
I would say the DII style save is best, because the save point in the middle of a dungeon means that you are right next the the boss. It makes save abuse in a game easier then save at any point, not harder. I agree that lack of quick save sucks, and newer games allow a quick save that get deleted when you start back up, so it is like a saved state that is non returnable too.
I found it hard not to use the save points as clues to when a bos is coming when I play games, and it makes it much easier. If I have a spell that is going to heal 75% of my health and I am at 750/1000 HP I will not waste 500 HP normally. But I sure as hell will at that save point.
This makes it real easy to limp along through the easy fights using almost nothing and then when the boss is coming be ready.
Last RPG I played (GrandiaII) I lost my party only twice, and this was in an area where you were supposed to try and dodge the enemies because within the first couple rounds of fighting they did an attack that killed everybody (to get the dragon egg (I think) if you've played).
Save spots suck hard core an way you cut it.
D2 saving was great because you could not abuse it at all (unless you crashed the program immediatly after something bad) because it auto saved every 3 minutes or so. The only problem was you had to start at your last way point when you came back.
I know a plane load of cocaine turns into 3 plane loads of cash.
That is very high profit.
so were you able to get goatse.cx up?
before you know it, it would be only you and you could play at your leasure.
I define their advertising saying they are as a true statement.
It could be (and I really hope it is) false.
The "classics" got nothing on the newer 2-d games.
Mars Matrix owns 1942 any day of the week.
With the new games having well over 1000 things on screen at a time and awsome sound it makes the classics look, well, classic.
no.
Why do you need to do that anymore?
just play Frontal Assult
duh
Also I would like to note that despite the anti-consolidation anti-clearchannel reports/jokes often heard on NPR Clear Channel gives them lots of money (they get thank yous between programs quite often in my area (WHYY)).
The reason is that NPR operates low cost (many low staff rebroadcasting stations) public radio and CC operates low cost commercial radio. Together they make sure that no small stations can take over there market. NPR needs all the donation they can get, and it is the closest thing to community radio available in a lot of markets, if people instead donated to the real thing they would end. The death of NPR for community radio would actually probably be a bad thing, the quality of NPR is very good.
CC on the other hand does not need every listener they can get to profit or stay in business(with the amount of adds and low amount of work they need to do they are making money hand over fist), but they are just greedy SOB's that want every penny they can.
the fact that they have alligned themselves together makes me sad, and even though I listen to NPR instead of sending them money I send a letter every pledge drive that states my beliefs (LPFM is good, and CC sucks) as an explenation of why I send them no money.
As a side note. I was disheartened to learn that my small state (Delaware) has the countries last independant news radio station (WILM). The station is probably listenable by less then 500,000 people and yet continually gets rained on with national awards due to its good news reporting. Is the nation in really such a sad state that there is no good news out there? I mean a smaller station in NY could get far more listeners then ours, and yet they can't keep independant and fail to beat our dinky little area in quality?
sort of, but using the idea of the extra DNS record you have less of a diolog (theroretically less CPU
Here is a sample mail header:
Return-Path:
Received: from flex.com (flex.com 206.126.0.13])by viper.oldcity.dca.net (8.11.6/8.9.3/DCANET)with ESMTP id h6EDrkN07810 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:53:46 -0400
Received: from [192.168.0.102] (pcp01938479pcs.univde01.de.comcast.net [68.83.147.176])
by flex.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6EDrgjx074778;
Mon, 14 Jul 2003 03:53:42 -1000 (HST)
(envelope-from ddwornik@flex.com)
From: Drake Dwornik
This message was sent from my comcast cable modem through flex.com in Hawaii they use POPB4 authentication. It is from ddwornik@flex.com
flex.com knows they are getting lots of messages to rely so they use POPB4 to authenticate (though password would work too).
Viper.oldcity.dca.net (a work account that is our private domain, not DCA.net but they host us) should get this mail and say, hmmm should I accept this?
lets check the added DNS field for flex.com.
oh yes 68.83.147.176 is on the list, great I can take it.
There is no reason I see that 192.168.0.102 (the origin) needs to be trusted only the relay itself.
This would prevent me from using smtp-relay.dca.net to send spam to dca.net customers (wich is now possible to at least a point, you would probably be dropped real fast though).
Playing around with telnet and port 25 pretending I was Mast0r Hax0r I fould that to send fake e-mail to domain x.com use mail.x.com as your relay and you could send to its customers, because that is where the mail went for that domain (now I am smart enough to use mx records). I would assume that a lot of the mass spamming to randomly generated account names at massive ISPs is done like that and this would prevent it.
There is no protocal hack possible to prevent people from setting up their own server or hijacking others to send it. That would require a central registry of valid servers much like SSL certificates are now.
What my solution would prevent is hijacked desktops from being relays without the spammer setting up a domain and adding their IP addresses to the extra record. And it would prevent me from using MS's releys to spam MS.
I hope I make sense here. I really like the idea of the extra DNS record. Though I don't think that any protocal hack will prevent fly by night offshore companies it can at least stem the illegal hacked desktops and immoral faked from addresses.
Why can't you giv it to them to do as they pease, and GPL it. If it not theres until it is submitted I don't see why you couldn't.
Unless they specify that noone else is allowed to have had access to the code before they see it.
That is what I propose the pop-up menu should do. It can popup with the mouse pointer pointing at the previously-selected item, even if it is in a nested submenu.
The problem with that is that the mouse pointer is somewhere new everytime. The way autocad did it the menues were always in the same place, you always clicked the same place. You lose a little bit of the Fittsiness because you must move the mouse to the menu, but it is automatic to jump up there anyway. and I know tools is always in the same place everytime. If my mouse jumps to somewhere else in a sub menue everything has moved and I need to orient myself to find what I want. I see the same problem with scrolling menus, but I can assume you have worked that out well (I don't quite understand your description though). If there is a dedicated mouse button "menu" I tend to agree the pop-up menus are good (much like on the Amiga, saved screen realestate when it was at a premium).
Also, would these menues pop-up like the Gimp?
Or do you have some other plan?
Also, menus off the screen hide stuff, making it harder to find something that you don't quite know what you want.
The problem with pop-up at mouse windows is that all three buttons have uses in most apps now (click, paste, concise (context?) menu). So you eaither need to add a keybord stroke or fundimentily redesign and lose good functionality.
Also, a personal pet peeve is things with memory, such as the new windows menues. The memmory breaks consistancy, which means that I now need to really watch what I am doing. ex. Oops, save is where revert to saved is, I fucked myself.
If I know that I click, move 2 inches and click everytime I want to do something it is better then having click not move click 90% of the time.
I never even thought about the problem with top of screen menues and sloppy focus, but your solution seems workable.
Another problem that Menues at the top solves is the inconsistancy of window positions. If I have a thin window, like a ticker (bad example, because why would I want a to regularly access the menu, but it is the first thing that comes to mind) and put it on the buttom, for example just above the status bar of my web browser when I click the menu it is either above my mouse (Win2K) or with it's buttom lines up that the buttom of the screen (some X apps I'm pretty sure) or going off the screen (havn't seen that but I imagine some poorly made stuff it does). If the menu is always at the top, it is always to the top, click, down blah. I also find non context sensitive pop-up menus annoying (Gimp)
The menu at the top thing was more to address a new law I invented (though I am sure I am not the only one) when I first saw office 2K.
So AvitarX's law is consistancy is king, if I do the same thing everytime I can do it quick and without thinking.
I don't think key stroke click to get a menu is user friendly (it is efficient though) because it it requires two hands. There are plenty of non porn related reasons to want to only use the mouse (like browning the web while petting the cat and other "casual" uses of the computer. Forcing the menu to be a two handed operation I think is unfriendly.
I really think consistancy is king though, stuff should not adapt to behavior in such agregious ways as having you're mouse start equivelently 2 inches away from where it did last time. And menu options should not disapear especialy for less used stuff, that is the stuff I need to hunt for when I want it, I want to see it under tools, not click the 3 little arrows and then have it expand then find it, then have my menu altered until the OS forgets about my access to said item. Finally I go to find it, and is it a tool or what?
One thing nice that I remember from autocad (release 12 DOS) was that the menus would remember what you last did, so if I spellcheck, then want to again I can double click tools and not tools, go to spelling. That was real nice, espicialy since I would do the same thing over and over.
Oh well, I think about these things a lot, but don't have the skill, and I don't have the innitiative to put the time into getting it.
Not Both Zapping ang Gaim buddy list, and tabbed window of conversations can be in out of the way places of a web-browser so I can watch TV, hassle friends, and generaly be a slash geek all at once.
Since the windows are not always on top though, I can also let easily pull my web-browser to the top for rediculous flash page etc.
Also valuble is alt-drag to move a window, so I can move a window without raising it.
Also the sloppy focus (I assume thats what point-to-type means?) is convienient, but I really don't think it is needed if a click doeasn't raise. I had to set it though, because it was too awkward to click to focus, but not have a window raise. How many brand new.casual users bump their mouse out of the window or into another input box when going to type? this could be a nightmare to make standard (I can't remember if mine does that now.
I do believe that most Distros have the first run of KDE ask for Motif/Mac/Windows style. This sets things like menues on top of screen, or in window (I prefer menues for focused window at top of screen because I never close the wrong app, closly stacked apps an be confusing sometimes), but it did not work well, because only 20% or so of my apps are KDE). It also sets focus and raise behaivior.
In summery:
Me too :)
Menu at top is also key IMHO
ALT-drag
KDE already has this, with no registry hack
Off Topic Samba Question.
...>
I am somehow involved in the thread so I figured I'd ask.
I have googled, but not found anything. I have not asked in any interactive forum though.
Anyway, is there a way that I can have Samba use my Unix Passwords without manually setting them?
It is a pain in my ass to adduser blah
then do it for samba and have to reset the password.
Then I need to update both passwords if somebody decides to change their password (yes I totally administer a small network at work, people can not change their password without permission, due to <... long rant about job clipped
I'm just curious.
Why does the very original IP need to matter.
If the fear is people faking mail, you simply need to require it went through the mail smtp server for that domain. Then the smtp server needs to authenticate all the clients. This would mean that the client IP is irrelavent, it just had to authenticate to a listed address/server.
You still have a problem with open/insecure releys, but that will always be a problem, an insecure system will always be crackable, and people who intentionally set stuff up to allow spamming will always be able to act trusted long enough to spam.
currently on eBay, plenty of PC Descent 3
and 1 Mac Descent 3.
I would imagine keeping an eye out you could have a massive descent3 collection in no time for cheap.
Also Quake 3.
Mods are lots of fun. The original game has a nice pace that newer stradegy based FPSs lack, though I play the newer ones more often, Quake 3 can refresh. It is real cheap on eBay. And runs on ancient Hardware.
Unreal Tornament is cross platform, but the new one needs more hardware (does it run on mac, I don't know, but assume so).
Quake 3 gives a huge variety of game play (within the tiny niche of FPS)
Will nerds who LAN party all day lose the extra weight?
I mean of course the fat nerds. You scrawny nerds might now even be able to tap into this.
I know 100W (75W proc) isn't much for a desktop, but it could probably power a laptop, or at least really extend it's life. Or bosses could have special low power desktops and pay the employees to power the system being blackout immune and less expensive. Just keep the Fresca in stron supply.
Could P0rn become healthy?
Slight Calorie starvation greatly increases longevity, and lower overal coloric intake is the number dietery life span predicter.