Really today we have to fight the stupidity from/.
What if you dont have -any- kind of broadband available nearby? Where I live, there is no DSL nor cable, and the University's computer rooms are heavily guarded.
The correct answer in this case would be to buy a cheap CD from LSL or Cheapbytes.
haha, very funny... The point is that only in select 1st world countries you can buy a fast internet connection. The rest of the internet able world is stuck with modems for the moment.
[I am posting this under the assumption that you have something to do with Ximian]
Because we include the Red Carpet application, installing and removing packages after you've done an install is very easy and most of our users didn't use the fine-grained individual package selection. And yeah, it's pretty big...
Ok, so the Red Carpet stuff is fine and dandy, but please next time remind Miguel of how things are here in Mexico (and most other countries too). We dont have broadband, and downloading the full 130+ MB (even from Akamai) on a modem is really something that I would have loved to avoid.
Not that I would have made it a lot lighter, but least I would have taken off a couple of packages I wont use.
Remember that both KDE and Gnome both run in several types of *nix, so it would be hell to make config utilities for so many different kinds of systems...
I wont reply to you no more, its obvious that you are incapable of educated conversation.
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Oh, nice Troll!
First of all, this technique was not pioneered in Beijing, but in Hong Kong, back when it was still a British Colony.
Second, the bamboo is deep inside concrete, in the supporting beams, so I would like to see a form of life being able to creep inside and survive without oxygen (and no, anaerobic bacteria doesnt seem to be able to eat enough cellulose to bring one of these down)
There are 15-20 year old buildings that have used this technique in Hong Kong, and they seem to be getting along just fine.
...and finally, before calling somebody else a butcher, ask yourself why only in the US grade school kids shoot their classmates.
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Skyscraper proyects in China routinely use bamboo as a substitute for the steel wire used to strenghen concrete in the western world.
Allegedly, the resulting material is as strong as steel-lined concrete, but much more flexible, so it resists typhoons better.
(sorry if my terminology is incorrect, my english is not that good)
here you base your criticism of python on the posters way of advocating it.
I was just saying that instead of basing your biases on/. postings you should go and find out for yourself why python has gained so much popularity of late.
You say you are not going to try a solution just because you dislike a/. poster's way of advocating it?
Sorry, but that didnt sound very intelligent.
I would rather go to python.org and read the docs, download the interpreter and play a bit with it... I've done it with a couple of languages I didnt eventually like, but now at least I have first person experience and not just bias.
If you want somebody elses opinion on Python, you would perhaps want to hear Eric S. Raymond's
, published on Linux Journal.
The fact is that the FSF is very dogmatic about the "copyleft" principle embodied in the GPL. They seem to particularly dislike other licenses that permit commercial developers to incorporate the software into proprietary products (e.g. the BSD license). I may be stretching here, but it seems like RMS views people who release software under these licenses as traitors to his cause. I might even go so far as to say that RMS views all commercially developed software with some degree of contempt, even the stuff that is eventually released under the GPL.
Very true, just see RMS's reaction to the GPLization of QT... He should have praised them diplomatically for their decision, as this was a victory for the FSF and the GPL.
But instead, he insulted TrollTech and KDE yet again, and no-so-subtly told people to go and use GNOME and GTK instead.
I believe almost everybody now has issues with RMS... If he is not careful he will be left alone.
Strange, I had some problems with 7.2 too, but I registered my copy and sent a message with my problem, and a week later I had an Update CD in the mail that solved everything...
I am amazed at the speed, specially since I live in Mexico and sending a CD in the mail to Mexico would be more expensive than usual for them...
What if you want to indent code for readability without it meaning something to the parser? What if you want to split a statement onto multiple lines for readability?
Easy, just use the escape character (\)
Please RTFM and try writing something simple in Python before disqualifing it.
I assure you will be hooked by the time you finish.
Thanks for your answer, but I fear that you didnt tell me anything that the different Linux desktops can't do (or wont do in a year from now).
I am using KDE2, and although its still a bit buggy and slow at times, and although nothing about it is original, IMHO it takes the best ideas from all the other desktops I have ever used. Plus its Free as speech, so the interface and applications will only get better.
...and more importantly, it has the power of the best Unix-type OSes (many platforms to choose from), behind it.
Thanks for your reply again, though... It looks like you really enjoy Apple's UI.
And it's their servers, so they have every right to make those restrictions. [bzzzzt!]
Wrong!
Remember that the Internet is nothing but a collection of networks, in order for this message to be posted into/. and in order for people to read it, packets have to travel through several networks, including AOL's...
Sure, they can restrict IM traffic coming through their servers as they wish, but they are running against the philosophy of sharing that has made the 'Net what it is today.
You are right, not many Apple users wont change over to x86
But Apple is not worried about people changing platform, they are (rightfully) worried about people not choosing their platform in the first place, because of FUD from Intel (about Mhz) and from MS (about everything!)
If Apple is getting to the point that they cannot attract new users to their products and have to rely on current Macfreaks to buy their (expensive) hardware, they are in a sore spot indeed...
BUT, in about the authors, it states that Larry Wall worked for Unisys during the period he created Perl. Anyone know if this is true? It would be the first evidence of anything not totally screwed up coming out of that outfit, possibly ever.
And Perl is not totally screwed up?
(Im not doubting its usefulness, only its sanity)
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What if you dont have -any- kind of broadband available nearby? Where I live, there is no DSL nor cable, and the University's computer rooms are heavily guarded.
The correct answer in this case would be to buy a cheap CD from LSL or Cheapbytes.
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And no, I wont move to the US, I like my country.
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Ok, so the Red Carpet stuff is fine and dandy, but please next time remind Miguel of how things are here in Mexico (and most other countries too). We dont have broadband, and downloading the full 130+ MB (even from Akamai) on a modem is really something that I would have loved to avoid.
Not that I would have made it a lot lighter, but least I would have taken off a couple of packages I wont use.
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First of all, this technique was not pioneered in Beijing, but in Hong Kong, back when it was still a British Colony.
Second, the bamboo is deep inside concrete, in the supporting beams, so I would like to see a form of life being able to creep inside and survive without oxygen (and no, anaerobic bacteria doesnt seem to be able to eat enough cellulose to bring one of these down)
There are 15-20 year old buildings that have used this technique in Hong Kong, and they seem to be getting along just fine.
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Allegedly, the resulting material is as strong as steel-lined concrete, but much more flexible, so it resists typhoons better.
(sorry if my terminology is incorrect, my english is not that good)
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I was just saying that instead of basing your biases on /. postings you should go and find out for yourself why python has gained so much popularity of late.
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Sorry, but that didnt sound very intelligent.
I would rather go to python.org and read the docs, download the interpreter and play a bit with it... I've done it with a couple of languages I didnt eventually like, but now at least I have first person experience and not just bias.
If you want somebody elses opinion on Python, you would perhaps want to hear Eric S. Raymond's , published on Linux Journal.
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Very true, just see RMS's reaction to the GPLization of QT... He should have praised them diplomatically for their decision, as this was a victory for the FSF and the GPL.
But instead, he insulted TrollTech and KDE yet again, and no-so-subtly told people to go and use GNOME and GTK instead.
I believe almost everybody now has issues with RMS... If he is not careful he will be left alone.
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Strange, I had some problems with 7.2 too, but I registered my copy and sent a message with my problem, and a week later I had an Update CD in the mail that solved everything...
I am amazed at the speed, specially since I live in Mexico and sending a CD in the mail to Mexico would be more expensive than usual for them...
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Easy, just use the escape character (\)
Please RTFM and try writing something simple in Python before disqualifing it.
I assure you will be hooked by the time you finish.
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NO! Red!!
NO! AAAAAAHHHH!!!
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I am using KDE2, and although its still a bit buggy and slow at times, and although nothing about it is original, IMHO it takes the best ideas from all the other desktops I have ever used. Plus its Free as speech, so the interface and applications will only get better.
Thanks for your reply again, though... It looks like you really enjoy Apple's UI.
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Why do you think the official .pdf viewer is free (as beer), but the complete Acrobat package costs 245usd?
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Wrong! /. and in order for people to read it, packets have to travel through several networks, including AOL's...
Remember that the Internet is nothing but a collection of networks, in order for this message to be posted into
Sure, they can restrict IM traffic coming through their servers as they wish, but they are running against the philosophy of sharing that has made the 'Net what it is today.
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Exactly what software is so good that makes you want to pay more for those Macs?
My Mac-using designer friends curse as much to their computers as my Windows using friends at other places of the company.
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But Apple is not worried about people changing platform, they are (rightfully) worried about people not choosing their platform in the first place, because of FUD from Intel (about Mhz) and from MS (about everything!)
If Apple is getting to the point that they cannot attract new users to their products and have to rely on current Macfreaks to buy their (expensive) hardware, they are in a sore spot indeed...
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Thank you, ink
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And Perl is not totally screwed up?
(Im not doubting its usefulness, only its sanity)
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