Tesla did meet the price (within a couple percent) on the 40 kWh pack. The fact that there was low demand for it is irrelevant.
They did better than that. All the orders for Model S40 were fulfilled with software-limited 60 kWh battery packs. If the owners choose to not unlock the full capacity, those packs will last a long time. And the cars have the same performance as the S60s did at the time and are grandfathered for unlimiited Supercharging.
Leaving aside the tragedy and lack of compassion, let's not forget that Obamacare is essentially a rightwing plan, not too different from what was proposed by Nixoncare or Bob Dole's plan. None of the advanced social democracies that provide universal healthcare do it in a similar fashion.If they're not single-payer, they all at least have a public option. There are instances where what's available in America is better but not for the vast majority - especially for what's being spent. If the per-capita expense could be cut by $1000, that would free up over $300 BILLION EVERY YEAR - and the USA would still be spending $2000 more per person than Norway, Netherlands or Switzerland. Finding a way to bring it down to about $4000 per person per year which is roughly the expenditure of countries like Germany, France & Sweden would save $1.3 Trillion which $200 billion more than 2015's total Federal discretionary spending.
And it ain't the right that thinks humanity is a blight on Mother Earth.
Yet another anti-science view of the right.
From the devastation that humanity has visited on nature, whether unwittingly or not, it's hard to argue that we aren't. If Trump & Pruitt aren't restrained, quite a bit of what we thought was recent history could become the near future.
I'm colorblind and I'm going to sue all of the movie studios and TV stations for presenting their product in color. If I can't see the shows in full color them they should all be forced to present the shows in only black and white so we can all be equal. Screw you, you non-colorblind elitists.
Haha! Joke's on you, they've always been black and white!
From Musk's blog post of Aug 2nd, 2006; the Secret Tesla Motors Master Plan - https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/bl... "Without giving away too much, I can say that the second model will be a sporty four door family car at roughly half the $89k price point of the Tesla Roadster and the third model will be even more affordable"
I'm embracing all that the Trump era has brought so it's just an alternative fact. I get that sugar exports bring in revenue but as someone whose has sugar cane farmers among relatives going back 150 years and lived for a decade in a town that sprung up from what was once a large sugar cane field, I'll state that if your sugar cane can't survive without irrigation, you're doing it in the wrong place or you've been doing it wrong for a long time.
The real problem here is the severity of the regulations, not the cars themselves. If passenger trucks were held to the same standard there wouldn't be a single redneck "rollin' coal" out there.
"Severity of the regulations" should be the banner of every whining industry that's been forced to clean up their act. In this case, it's possible to be compliant but VW et al didn't want to implement a system that might have reduced performance or increase cost slightly. So they chose to lie & cheat. Not the 1st to do this, won't be the last.
The US trucking industry is very proud that more than 1/3rd of medium & heavy commercial trucks are considered near-zero for particulate emissions, up from less than 10% in 2007 and claims that a single truck from 1988 would emit as much as 60 new trucks. http://www.dieselforum.org/new...
My response is that it's all long-overdue, that it should be at least 75% compliance by now and that ALL vehicles should be held to the standard.
Because it's (almost 20 years into) the 21st century
Yeah, but that EpicZenGarden demo doesn't work in Chrome.
And it sorta worked in my portable FF. All 4 CPU cores went to 100% when it was compiling WebAssembly, dropped to 85% while the demo was playing, which crashed after about 30 seconds - but only took out the 1 tab, did not kill the browser.
Small government Republicans exist, here and there, but are hardly the establishment. Trump seems intent on reducing the scope of government though. Actions need to follow words, but he might actually make some government departments smaller for once. Wouldn't that be shocking.
Homeland Security is one the biggest and it's likely to swell up like a bloated tick under the Orange Don. Then there's the Armed Forces which he also wants to make bigger - how long before that budget item exceeds a trillion dollars?
You're conflating / confusing power & energy / storage in several places in your post.
The system Tesla is proposing is 100 MW power / 300 MWh stored energy. So you can have 100 MW power for up to 3 hours but can't get 300 MW for even 1 minute
The total bare weight of the order of 300 MWh of PowePack hardware should be around 850 short tons. Even allowing for a total weight of 1000 tons for shipping materials & containers, that's no big deal for a cargo freighter.
"Presumably they manufacture a limited range of standard-size cells"
The Gigafactory is all about the 2170 format which is being / will be used in the PowerWall2 / PowerPack2 and forthcoming Model 3. Tesla scales up from a basic Powerpack module, originally 50 kW / 100 kWh but now 210 kWh with PowerPack2. A PowerPack module is 16 battery modules plus control cabinet / supporting hardware and incl Tesla-designed inverter.
"purchase an insurance policy against this for a relatively modest periodic fee" Insurance policies have exceptions. It wouldn't surprise me if they made seizure by the authorities one of them. Even if that isn't the case initially, the fact that the warrant remains open means his gear can be seized over & over. How many times would Lloyd's or Stiff Upper Lip insurers replace his stuff within, for example, a 6 month period? Once, twice, weekly?
8 years ago, the Democrats held the Presidency, both Houses and 57% of governorships. Yet here we are.
If you're looking for "lying, partisan piles of shit", give Ted Cruz & Paul Ryan (among others) a call and ask them what Cheeto-flavored jizz tasted like
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Tesla did meet the price (within a couple percent) on the 40 kWh pack. The fact that there was low demand for it is irrelevant.
They did better than that. All the orders for Model S40 were fulfilled with software-limited 60 kWh battery packs. If the owners choose to not unlock the full capacity, those packs will last a long time. And the cars have the same performance as the S60s did at the time and are grandfathered for unlimiited Supercharging.
Leaving aside the tragedy and lack of compassion, let's not forget that Obamacare is essentially a rightwing plan, not too different from what was proposed by Nixoncare or Bob Dole's plan.
None of the advanced social democracies that provide universal healthcare do it in a similar fashion.If they're not single-payer, they all at least have a public option.
There are instances where what's available in America is better but not for the vast majority - especially for what's being spent.
If the per-capita expense could be cut by $1000, that would free up over $300 BILLION EVERY YEAR - and the USA would still be spending $2000 more per person than Norway, Netherlands or Switzerland.
Finding a way to bring it down to about $4000 per person per year which is roughly the expenditure of countries like Germany, France & Sweden would save $1.3 Trillion which $200 billion more than 2015's total Federal discretionary spending.
There are plenty of Rightist anti-vaxxers.
And it ain't the right that thinks humanity is a blight on Mother Earth.
Yet another anti-science view of the right.
From the devastation that humanity has visited on nature, whether unwittingly or not, it's hard to argue that we aren't.
If Trump & Pruitt aren't restrained, quite a bit of what we thought was recent history could become the near future.
I'm colorblind and I'm going to sue all of the movie studios and TV stations for presenting their product in color. If I can't see the shows in full color them they should all be forced to present the shows in only black and white so we can all be equal. Screw you, you non-colorblind elitists.
Haha! Joke's on you, they've always been black and white!
I'll let Calvin's dad explain it to you
http://calvin-and-hobbes-comic...
How exactly is running a Ponzi scheme subsidised by taxpayer money doing something for the world?
We call that government
The Roadster was promised at $100k
No, base price was supposed to be $89,000
From Musk's blog post of Aug 2nd, 2006; the Secret Tesla Motors Master Plan - https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/bl...
"Without giving away too much, I can say that the second model will be a sporty four door family car at roughly half the $89k price point of the Tesla Roadster and the third model will be even more affordable"
Nice try but you pulled the V=5 completely out of your ass and it contradicts IV=4 since you defined I=0.9999999999....
"Customers' email addresses and usage data were transmitted to the company's Canadian servers, the lawsuit alleges"
Oh, Oh, CANADA!!
Droughts happen.
Especially in Australia
Being that wrong has to sting.
I'm embracing all that the Trump era has brought so it's just an alternative fact.
I get that sugar exports bring in revenue but as someone whose has sugar cane farmers among relatives going back 150 years and lived for a decade in a town that sprung up from what was once a large sugar cane field, I'll state that if your sugar cane can't survive without irrigation, you're doing it in the wrong place or you've been doing it wrong for a long time.
What do you have against Beyond Thunderdome? :-D
Perhaps you underestimate the amount of water involved
Tell that to the idiot farmers growing fucking SUGAR CANE in South Australia, the driest state in a famously dry country
The real problem here is the severity of the regulations, not the cars themselves. If passenger trucks were held to the same standard there wouldn't be a single redneck "rollin' coal" out there.
"Severity of the regulations" should be the banner of every whining industry that's been forced to clean up their act.
In this case, it's possible to be compliant but VW et al didn't want to implement a system that might have reduced performance or increase cost slightly.
So they chose to lie & cheat. Not the 1st to do this, won't be the last.
The US trucking industry is very proud that more than 1/3rd of medium & heavy commercial trucks are considered near-zero for particulate emissions, up from less than 10% in 2007 and claims that a single truck from 1988 would emit as much as 60 new trucks.
http://www.dieselforum.org/new...
My response is that it's all long-overdue, that it should be at least 75% compliance by now and that ALL vehicles should be held to the standard.
Because it's (almost 20 years into) the 21st century
How do you get out of an airplane when something goes wrong ?
Parachute or ejection seat for the important people.
Yeah, but that EpicZenGarden demo doesn't work in Chrome.
And it sorta worked in my portable FF. All 4 CPU cores went to 100% when it was compiling WebAssembly, dropped to 85% while the demo was playing, which crashed after about 30 seconds - but only took out the 1 tab, did not kill the browser.
Small government Republicans exist, here and there, but are hardly the establishment. Trump seems intent on reducing the scope of government though. Actions need to follow words, but he might actually make some government departments smaller for once. Wouldn't that be shocking.
Homeland Security is one the biggest and it's likely to swell up like a bloated tick under the Orange Don.
Then there's the Armed Forces which he also wants to make bigger - how long before that budget item exceeds a trillion dollars?
You're conflating / confusing power & energy / storage in several places in your post.
The system Tesla is proposing is 100 MW power / 300 MWh stored energy. So you can have 100 MW power for up to 3 hours but can't get 300 MW for even 1 minute
The total bare weight of the order of 300 MWh of PowePack hardware should be around 850 short tons. Even allowing for a total weight of 1000 tons for shipping materials & containers, that's no big deal for a cargo freighter.
"Presumably they manufacture a limited range of standard-size cells"
The Gigafactory is all about the 2170 format which is being / will be used in the PowerWall2 / PowerPack2 and forthcoming Model 3.
Tesla scales up from a basic Powerpack module, originally 50 kW / 100 kWh but now 210 kWh with PowerPack2.
A PowerPack module is 16 battery modules plus control cabinet / supporting hardware and incl Tesla-designed inverter.
"purchase an insurance policy against this for a relatively modest periodic fee"
Insurance policies have exceptions. It wouldn't surprise me if they made seizure by the authorities one of them.
Even if that isn't the case initially, the fact that the warrant remains open means his gear can be seized over & over.
How many times would Lloyd's or Stiff Upper Lip insurers replace his stuff within, for example, a 6 month period?
Once, twice, weekly?
The police does not issue warrants.
Warrants are issued by a judge!
at the request of cops or some other official. Judges don't issue warrants if no one requests one
"It's about 3 weeks by boat"
Elon is all about speeding things up. I wonder what's he thinking up to may shipping take less time.
Perhaps if you truly dislike things like this bill
So, you think employers should be able to perform genetic testing on their employees? This is the party of "individual liberty?"
What a joke.
Individual liberty and smaller government. So they keep saying
8 years ago, the Democrats held the Presidency, both Houses and 57% of governorships. Yet here we are.
If you're looking for "lying, partisan piles of shit", give Ted Cruz & Paul Ryan (among others) a call and ask them what Cheeto-flavored jizz tasted like
You earned a Troll vote already? Looks like the downmodders are staying in tonight.