I love VLC but it sucks on the Mac. I installed it on a friend's Macbook to play MKV files and the damn program hangs just trying to launch it. The free Elmedia player I tried next worked like a charm. I've used VLC on Windows & Linux for over 10 years & only issues I can recall were with corrupt files
You still think a "coal plant" belches out black soot and smoke don't you?
Educate yourself. Fossil plants use baghouses, dry sorbent injection, activated carbon, flue gas desulfurization, selective catalytic reduction, among other technologies to clean up emissions. Mostly what you see today is water vapor.
Yeah no one wants a power plant near them, but happy to use the electricity it generates. Ignorance is bliss.
The only reason that coal plants use *any* of those technologies is because they were FORCED. And they spent DECADES resisting any attempts to curb their pollution. Yes, they're cleaner than ever but they were fucking nasty for the better part of my life. If Trump disbands the EPA, they'll happily go back to spewing their shite directly into your air & water with a hearty fuck-u-and-blow-me
Gee whiz next thing you'll be telling me that the tailbone has no function and we'd be A-OK if instead of something hitting your tailbone it hits the end of your spinal cord directly instead
The spinal cord ends within the 1st two lumbar vetebrae so it's probably at least 6 in from your tailbone
If so, I can see a huge legal mess brewing for coal-fired plants. Many of them resisted adding scrubbers and pollution controls for decades. Trump et al may tried to gut & hobble the EPA but a civilian suit against VW may pave the way for a massive suit against the entire fossil fuel industry and coal is perhaps the biggest target.
But we can look at the trend and say "gee, there's 20x more events now than there used to be".
About 10 years ago 5 hurricanes hit the southeast in one year and everyone screamed "it's global warming!!!! This is going to happen all the time now!!!" And then pretty much no major hurricanes have hit since.
Nonsense. The fear is that global warming will lead to much stronger storms more frequently so that when they hit they'll do much more damage. But no one is claiming that AGW will cause more storms to make landfall more often. It's also not clear if storms will become stronger as the conditions under which they form depend a lot on wind shear and as far as I know, the jury is still out on what a warmer atmosphere will mean for that.
Why is the Operating System Resource Center gone from your site on nondot.org/sabre? There are a couple mirrors that date back to 2006 but what happened to the main site?
GM's penalty for the ignition switch fiasco is less than $1 billion for a deliberate defect about which the the company tried to cover up and lied about for years and killed over 100 people. https://www.washingtonpost.com...?
Who did VW piss off or forget to blow?
I'm not saying VW should pay less but I don't understand how what they did merits higher fines
"I think you're at the "ok, global warming is real, but its not a big deal, honest" stage?? But that's at least semi-positive. You've accepted the basic warming, even if you want to downplay the short time scale its happened over by adding in ancient ice cap melts"
The problem is that a lot of people who are only now reaching that stage or only got there (publicly) in recen years will soon jump to "but it's too late to do anything except adapt / geoengineer". For example, Rex Tillerson, former Exxon CEO and expert knobsucker of both Trump & Putin. http://www.reuters.com/article...
I think you'll find it's the climate shills who aren't showing up to debate "deniers"
A few years back, Anthony Watts of the Climate Denier Central Clearinghouse known as Watts Up With That, hosted an online debate between Christopher Monckton and Peter Hadfield. Nearly all of the resident regulars were expecting His Lordship to deliver a proper trouncing to the impertinent plebe who dared to suggest that Monckton was full of bunkum. It didn't go according to plan. At some point, perhaps a day or two in, Monckton found more important challenges than defending his denialism. He went looking for Obama's birth certificate - https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Perhaps the analysis of the Berkeley Earth http://berkeleyearth.org/ project will be more to your liking? They did a complete re-examination of all available datasets and looked at more data than any other single project to date. This included taking raw data, not just analyzed data sets that had already been sanitized as that seems to be a particular sticking point for skeptics.
I once pointed out how we had a ready-made carbon sequestration process in place already. Yard waste in landfills.
Sadly, this was killed by a competing environmentalist impulse based on innumeracy: We are running out of space for landfills. So now many areas ban yard waste in landfills. And what landfills there are often are areated so they can continue to rot away underground, also releasing that CO2.
Do your duty -- compost the yard waste to get the CO2 back into the atmosphere!
When I pointed this out to the environmentalist, he immediately said, well, CO2 wasn't that important as a greenhouse gas.
You have to pick and choose your environmentalist impulse values and pooh pooh any contrary ideas.
Adding in large amounts of carbon that was removed from the natural cycle a very long time ago or was never part of it.is the real problem. Trying to sequester carbon by burying yard waste is like jogging to burn off the extra six slices of pizza, 1/2 gallon of ice cream and box of cookies you're eating every day - it'll do more harm than good and what you should have done was eat less.
"The chemistry of the Tesla cells probably makes them useless for general purpose consumer cells" They're not tied to a single chemistry. The original PowerWalls were using nickel-manganese for the 6.4 kWh & nickel-cobalt for the 10 kWh units. The cars use other formulations - the Roadster's pack chemistry is different from the Model S This is the benefit of having such a close relationship with Panasonic - a lot of battery expertise close at hand.
In summary, renewable energy is born dirty and it dies dirty.
It's not a judgement call.
It's science.
It's also economics & human nature. Left to completely "natural" processes. all human beings are born dirty, die dirtier and would live lives that are nasty, brutish & short. But we decided that wasn't good enough and we changed it. It took a hell of a long time, is far from done and we have a lot of terrible mistakes getting to where we are now. But we're past the point where we affect Nature as much as She affects us. We *can* change that, without all of us reverting back to the godawful existence that was once the norm. And we are going to fuck up from time to time but that's no excuse to keep doing things the way we've always done and in a way we know to be harmful.
You're looking at it the wrong way. The fact of the matter is, AlphaGo can do one thing in it's life, play Go. Make an exhaustive list of the things in life a preschooler may be capable of (identify a color, identify an animal, read a book) and quickly the preschooler looks vastly more intelligent. If a person was born that could do nothing but beat everyone at Go, they wouldn't call him/her intelligent, they would call them a 'savant'. They used to be called 'idiot savants' but, political correctness..
The advantage I give to humans is that a single gifted, well-honed human brain is still capable of besting just about any single-machine AI at many difficult tasks. AlphaGo, otoh, is running on hundreds of CPUs & GPUs. But as far as the savant argument goes, I don't think we'll hold the high ground for very long, perhaps a decade or so and we'll see AIs that are multi-talented. The real issue is not what they're capable of but who they can replace. A few companies are now looking to offload many middle management decisions onto machine decision making. I suppose the argument can be made that humans will simply find other things to do but so much of what we do now is either manual labor or simple enough to automate that I have to wonder exactly what billions of aging homo sapiens will do instead.
You had the time and interest but you repeated what I said.
I was heading off what looked to be the start of another screed that those who want others to reduce waste/pollution/GHGs should first stop breathing or drop dead themselves. Because freedom / God / my ancestors or some such shite.
If that's not where you were going, then I'll withdraw the comment. Otherwise, it stands as is.
... energy that has been fabricated by minerals and ores extracted by, and processed in plants powered by, fossil fuels.
God: "No, you can't get past the fucking 2nd law."
Does that include fossil nukes, hydro-fossilized or geothermalized petroleum plants? We *can* phase out fossil fuels, just not yet but we can cut our usage drastically. We had to use other energy sources to kickstart our use of coal & oil; this is not different just on a much larger scale.
I understand that they are making these primarily for cars, but does Tesla have any plans to make consumer-friendly Lithium-ion batteries for general use? Seems like they could easily make these, and drive down the costs of these things pretty dramatically. Looking quickly on Google, general-use batteries seem to run hundreds of dollars. I'd be interested in one for various purposes if it dropped down into a $50-$100 range.
Aside from the PowerWall / PowerPacks, I think that'll be left to Panasonic and I'm betting it may be written into their agreements.
Am I the only person here who took this long to realize that Tesla cars are powered by what amounts to a shitload of flashlight batteries wired up in a tub?
Laptop, not flashlight. Popular Science featured the Roadster and its batteries in its May 2007 article, "Can 6,831 laptop batteries change the world?" And the answer to your question is "You probably are"
This is not AI, simply because the rules of Go were programmed into the computer to start with. If it had to figure out the rules and the idea of winning by itself then that would be amazing...
However it was taught what a good move is by some point or similar system, that's hardly self learning....
Are you kidding? Then only a very small %age of humanity could be considered intelligent as there are a lot of things that a vanishingly small number of children would NEVER figure out without help.
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I love VLC but it sucks on the Mac. I installed it on a friend's Macbook to play MKV files and the damn program hangs just trying to launch it.
The free Elmedia player I tried next worked like a charm.
I've used VLC on Windows & Linux for over 10 years & only issues I can recall were with corrupt files
The original Gigafactory plan mentioned wind turbines as well but I'm sure they'll have a sizable grid connection.
They'd be crazy not to.
You still think a "coal plant" belches out black soot and smoke don't you?
Educate yourself. Fossil plants use baghouses, dry sorbent injection, activated carbon, flue gas desulfurization, selective catalytic reduction, among other technologies to clean up emissions. Mostly what you see today is water vapor.
Yeah no one wants a power plant near them, but happy to use the electricity it generates. Ignorance is bliss.
The only reason that coal plants use *any* of those technologies is because they were FORCED. And they spent DECADES resisting any attempts to curb their pollution. Yes, they're cleaner than ever but they were fucking nasty for the better part of my life.
If Trump disbands the EPA, they'll happily go back to spewing their shite directly into your air & water with a hearty fuck-u-and-blow-me
Gee whiz next thing you'll be telling me that the tailbone has no function and we'd be A-OK if instead of something hitting your tailbone it hits the end of your spinal cord directly instead
The spinal cord ends within the 1st two lumbar vetebrae so it's probably at least 6 in from your tailbone
The other problem is they used a tool to scan unallocated space for deleted files. That takes time. Are they charging customers for that extra time?
I would not be even a little bit surprised.
If so, I can see a huge legal mess brewing for coal-fired plants. Many of them resisted adding scrubbers and pollution controls for decades.
Trump et al may tried to gut & hobble the EPA but a civilian suit against VW may pave the way for a massive suit against the entire fossil fuel industry and coal is perhaps the biggest target.
I don't understand how what they did merits higher fines
more smog affects everybody, defective switches only affect those in their vicinity
"you don't understand" wow how dumb you are!
If you don't know how much impact the loss of a person can have beyond just their "vicinity", it's clear you're just another idiot AC
We agree both GM and VW were bad.
Are you are saying you feel that what GM did seems worse than what VW did?
Given that over 100 deaths have been tied to the ignition defect, yes.
So why Tesla? What makes you a better choice than say, George Hotz ( except that he may not be sane)?
Do you have AI dev experience?
But we can look at the trend and say "gee, there's 20x more events now than there used to be".
About 10 years ago 5 hurricanes hit the southeast in one year and everyone screamed "it's global warming!!!! This is going to happen all the time now!!!" And then pretty much no major hurricanes have hit since.
Nonsense. The fear is that global warming will lead to much stronger storms more frequently so that when they hit they'll do much more damage.
But no one is claiming that AGW will cause more storms to make landfall more often. It's also not clear if storms will become stronger as the conditions under which they form depend a lot on wind shear and as far as I know, the jury is still out on what a warmer atmosphere will mean for that.
Why is the Operating System Resource Center gone from your site on nondot.org/sabre?
There are a couple mirrors that date back to 2006 but what happened to the main site?
GM's penalty for the ignition switch fiasco is less than $1 billion for a deliberate defect about which the the company tried to cover up and lied about for years and killed over 100 people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...?
Who did VW piss off or forget to blow?
I'm not saying VW should pay less but I don't understand how what they did merits higher fines
"I think you're at the "ok, global warming is real, but its not a big deal, honest" stage?? But that's at least semi-positive. You've accepted the basic warming, even if you want to downplay the short time scale its happened over by adding in ancient ice cap melts"
The problem is that a lot of people who are only now reaching that stage or only got there (publicly) in recen years will soon jump to "but it's too late to do anything except adapt / geoengineer".
For example, Rex Tillerson, former Exxon CEO and expert knobsucker of both Trump & Putin.
http://www.reuters.com/article...
I think you'll find it's the climate shills who aren't showing up to debate "deniers"
A few years back, Anthony Watts of the Climate Denier Central Clearinghouse known as Watts Up With That, hosted an online debate between Christopher Monckton and Peter Hadfield. Nearly all of the resident regulars were expecting His Lordship to deliver a proper trouncing to the impertinent plebe who dared to suggest that Monckton was full of bunkum.
It didn't go according to plan.
At some point, perhaps a day or two in, Monckton found more important challenges than defending his denialism.
He went looking for Obama's birth certificate - https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Perhaps the analysis of the Berkeley Earth http://berkeleyearth.org/ project will be more to your liking?
They did a complete re-examination of all available datasets and looked at more data than any other single project to date.
This included taking raw data, not just analyzed data sets that had already been sanitized as that seems to be a particular sticking point for skeptics.
Their conclusions are at http://berkeleyearth.org/summa...
I once pointed out how we had a ready-made carbon sequestration process in place already. Yard waste in landfills.
Sadly, this was killed by a competing environmentalist impulse based on innumeracy: We are running out of space for landfills. So now many areas ban yard waste in landfills. And what landfills there are often are areated so they can continue to rot away underground, also releasing that CO2.
Do your duty -- compost the yard waste to get the CO2 back into the atmosphere!
When I pointed this out to the environmentalist, he immediately said, well, CO2 wasn't that important as a greenhouse gas.
You have to pick and choose your environmentalist impulse values and pooh pooh any contrary ideas.
Adding in large amounts of carbon that was removed from the natural cycle a very long time ago or was never part of it.is the real problem.
Trying to sequester carbon by burying yard waste is like jogging to burn off the extra six slices of pizza, 1/2 gallon of ice cream and box of cookies you're eating every day - it'll do more harm than good and what you should have done was eat less.
"The chemistry of the Tesla cells probably makes them useless for general purpose consumer cells"
They're not tied to a single chemistry. The original PowerWalls were using nickel-manganese for the 6.4 kWh & nickel-cobalt for the 10 kWh units.
The cars use other formulations - the Roadster's pack chemistry is different from the Model S
This is the benefit of having such a close relationship with Panasonic - a lot of battery expertise close at hand.
In summary, renewable energy is born dirty and it dies dirty.
It's not a judgement call.
It's science.
It's also economics & human nature.
Left to completely "natural" processes. all human beings are born dirty, die dirtier and would live lives that are nasty, brutish & short.
But we decided that wasn't good enough and we changed it.
It took a hell of a long time, is far from done and we have a lot of terrible mistakes getting to where we are now.
But we're past the point where we affect Nature as much as She affects us.
We *can* change that, without all of us reverting back to the godawful existence that was once the norm.
And we are going to fuck up from time to time but that's no excuse to keep doing things the way we've always done and in a way we know to be harmful.
You're looking at it the wrong way. The fact of the matter is, AlphaGo can do one thing in it's life, play Go. Make an exhaustive list of the things in life a preschooler may be capable of (identify a color, identify an animal, read a book) and quickly the preschooler looks vastly more intelligent. If a person was born that could do nothing but beat everyone at Go, they wouldn't call him/her intelligent, they would call them a 'savant'. They used to be called 'idiot savants' but, political correctness..
The advantage I give to humans is that a single gifted, well-honed human brain is still capable of besting just about any single-machine AI at many difficult tasks.
AlphaGo, otoh, is running on hundreds of CPUs & GPUs.
But as far as the savant argument goes, I don't think we'll hold the high ground for very long, perhaps a decade or so and we'll see AIs that are multi-talented.
The real issue is not what they're capable of but who they can replace. A few companies are now looking to offload many middle management decisions onto machine decision making.
I suppose the argument can be made that humans will simply find other things to do but so much of what we do now is either manual labor or simple enough to automate that I have to wonder exactly what billions of aging homo sapiens will do instead.
You had the time and interest but you repeated what I said.
I was heading off what looked to be the start of another screed that those who want others to reduce waste/pollution/GHGs should first stop breathing or drop dead themselves.
Because freedom / God / my ancestors or some such shite.
If that's not where you were going, then I'll withdraw the comment.
Otherwise, it stands as is.
"Tesla isn't able to see them for full market value"
Sell, not see.
... energy that has been fabricated by minerals and ores extracted by, and processed in plants powered by, fossil fuels.
God: "No, you can't get past the fucking 2nd law."
Does that include fossil nukes, hydro-fossilized or geothermalized petroleum plants?
We *can* phase out fossil fuels, just not yet but we can cut our usage drastically. We had to use other energy sources to kickstart our use of coal & oil; this is not different just on a much larger scale.
I understand that they are making these primarily for cars, but does Tesla have any plans to make consumer-friendly Lithium-ion batteries for general use? Seems like they could easily make these, and drive down the costs of these things pretty dramatically. Looking quickly on Google, general-use batteries seem to run hundreds of dollars. I'd be interested in one for various purposes if it dropped down into a $50-$100 range.
Aside from the PowerWall / PowerPacks, I think that'll be left to Panasonic and I'm betting it may be written into their agreements.
Am I the only person here who took this long to realize that Tesla cars are powered by what amounts to a shitload of flashlight batteries wired up in a tub?
Laptop, not flashlight. Popular Science featured the Roadster and its batteries in its May 2007 article, "Can 6,831 laptop batteries change the world?"
And the answer to your question is "You probably are"
This is not AI, simply because the rules of Go were programmed into the computer to start with. If it had to figure out the rules and the idea of winning by itself then that would be amazing...
However it was taught what a good move is by some point or similar system, that's hardly self learning....
Are you kidding? Then only a very small %age of humanity could be considered intelligent as there are a lot of things that a vanishingly small number of children would NEVER figure out without help.