"When you call for a "single payer system", what you are calling for is simply that even more money goes directly from tax payers to pharmaceutical companies and the medical industry and is controlled by large political donors and lobbyists. That is, you are a cheerleader for corporate interests and crony capitalism, and you don't even realize it"
I'm well aware of what I stand for - and you definitely aren't - & many changes have to be made. The revolving doors between the White House & Congress and the big lobbyists has to be removed & the way money flows to politicians has to be entirely reformed. I don't believe any single system has all the answers but I do like a lot of what Canada does. Their healthcare system needs some reform but if that was the system that Obamacare had imposed, it would have been much more advantageous for the USA.
"I was kind of hoping the MLC endurance had kind of passed some threshold where endurance wasn't really a factor anymore for all but the most intensive write applications"
Here's a hint: "features lower cost 3rd-generation 3-bit MLC V-NAND flash memory" 3-bit is TLC not MLC so that may explain the poor endurance
"You first generally accused people of not having lived outside the US, and I pointed out I had" Bullshit. You wrote that Dems confused the issue by incorrectly calling Nordic nations socialist instead of social democracies, I replied that Dems don't truly understand how they work and GOP et al aren't interested and added a link to Ann Jones' article - who you dismissed as a "a rich, stupid American political hack, writing patronizing and ignorant articles about European countries" . It wasn't until that point that I mentioned there are plenty of well-off Americans who've never lived anywhere else that think no system is or can be better. That's not at all the same. Thread begins here: https://slashdot.org/comments....
"My dismantling of your references, however, wasn't based on my experience, it was based on easily verifiable facts independent of my own experience. You, on the other hand, seem to lack both experience outside the US and knowledge" You're wrong on both counts but it's pointless to try to change your mind. And your "dismantling" is also bullshit. You disregarded Jones article about Norway because you've lived in Europe? Where? Portugal is in Europe and so is Poland. Life in those places is very different from each other and even more different in Norway.
"The US health care system wasn't free-market pre-ACA, and it isn't free market post-ACA. The overwhelming problem with the US healthcare system is its lack of cost and price controls, whether market-based or government imposed. That will cause the US health care system to fail more and more people every year, bankrupting families and denying treatments. And the reason for that is because voters like you let themselves be manipulated into supporting programs that serve the interests of politically connected corporations and lobbyists"
I've said long before Obama had dented the public consciousness that America needed to get to a single-payer program. The simplest way seemed to be Medicare-for-all. But nothing is simple in The Greatest Nation in History
"because I grew up in Europe and know that they are full of it" Europe is a big & varied place. You don't have the sole experience of it. Lots of people have wonderful lives in America Others, like this deceased friend, not so much. What treatments she could get couldn't save her but they could bankrupt her, as dictated by the free market
"Great! You recognize that public borrowing and excessive spending are a problem" I recognize that there's a lot of manipulation in financial markets and the foxes are in charge of the henhouse in the great USofA A small number of greedy fucks nearly collapsed the world economy but it's all the fault of the general public who wouldn't know a CDO if they tripped over one.
"And because you think Trump's staff lies and panders, it's OK for you to do the same thing?" I'm doing neither but hey, what's sauce for the goose, as Mitt Romney would say.
He's going to settle. It isn't in his best interest to fight it like he wanted to. In reality, he probably would have won, but it's easier to settle out and make this go away.
Hard to say. The man has a stubborn streak. And he may be emboldened by the judge advising the plaintiffs that a settlement is in their best interests. I'm concerned that may lead him to offer what for him is a terrific deal but an insult to those suing, which may cause them to dig in their heels.
"I said if Democrats want to win they shouldn't put felons on the ballot. The same applies to all other parties." A felon is someone who's been charged & convicted, not merely accused. Most politicians I've ever heard of have been accused of things that are felonies now even if that may not have been true at the time.
This supposed nitwit would like to point out that nothing excludes you from that happy company.
True, nothing excludes me. But my status of nitwittiness is as irrelevant as Trumps to the truth of Ann Jones's or Mark Markson's or your bullshit.
There's plenty of bullshit - and truth - to go around. Dismissing others out of hand because of your elitism is supposedly what got Trump elected in the 1st place. As for all those economic texts you presumably have read, what good has it done any country? Before answering - spend some time at the link below. http://www.nationaldebtclocks....
"I'm saying that if Democrats want to be successful it would certainly help if they can find people to run that weren't accused of committing multiple felonies"
Can you explain why that standard should be applied only to Democrats?
Chris Christie, Scott Walker & Rick Perry have more than a few legal woes
Trump has changed the game. If he can win, so can Harris. In fact, so can anyone. His win has effectively killed any & all pretexts for disqualifying a candidate short of a confession for a violent crime.
Not religious? No problem. The evangelicals were behind him and he doesn't know anything about the Bible except for a couple lines from "Two Corinthians". Don't respect women? It's all "boy talk", no big deal. Besides some are just too ugly & nasty anyway. Make creepy comments and be awkwardly handsy with own daughter? Just fatherly affection; I'm sure it'll be cool if Barack did the same with Malia. Be the most ignorant candidate to get nominated, perhaps ever? No problem. Just put "Make America Great Again" on a cap and chant "USA, USA" a few times. Pledge to clean up Washington aka "drain the swamp"? With Mike Pence, Reince Preibus, Rudy Giuliani, perhaps Chris Christie? Yes Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus.
"The fact that Trump and the GOP are ignorant nitwits doesn't mean that Ann Jones, Mark Manson, or, for that matter, you, aren't ignorant nitwits as well, as you indeed are"
This supposed nitwit would like to point out that nothing excludes you from that happy company.
Those hordes of conservatives have their own - Sodahead. I was no it for a while but I couldn't stand all the rightwingnut bullshit so I ditched and never looked back. If conservatives feel the same about Facebook, they can make like a Mexican and LEAVE
"As long as that is your rhetoric, you will continue to lose. Because you continue to blame strawmen instead of learning from your mistakes"
No. The mistake was not voting for your candidate even if you didn't think much of her. Hillary was never going to be my 1st choice but better her than Trump. For all the blather about the revolt against the establishment, Trump failed to get as many votes as MITT ROMNEY, the blandest whitebread establishment candidate in many a year. And he got ~700,000 fewer votes than the much-hated Clinton and millions fewer than a Kenyan Muslim.
Put Kamala Harris on the Dem ticket in 2020 and watch the orange blowhard get stomped by a Jamaican-South Indian woman
"You mean what do I make of a piece of political propaganda written by someone who writes books on how to pick up women for a living? A piece filled with illogic, platitudes, and elitism? A piece that reduces economic and social developments to cherry-picked statistics?"
That might have been a worthy rebuke years ago, before the GOP became a gaggle of nitwits and eventually a clown caucus whose base elevated America's greatest conman to the presidency. He hasn't read his *own* books, for fuck's sake.
"I suggest you pick up some real books on economics, history, politics, and social science" Tell that to Trump & the people he's putting in charge. None of them have a clue except how to lie & pander.
"potentially slowing down the development of this technology"
Not necessarily. Development will proceed and when it's good enough, I'm sure the insurance lobby will put plenty of pressure on the legislature. But the tools & tech needed to improve will proceed, mapping, neural nets, cheaper & better sensors, CPUs / GPUs. etc.
"As someone who grew up in Europe and emigrated to the US, I can only tell you that she is a political hack and that what she says is bullshit."
Well I know what she claims but all I know about what you claim is that she is wrong - which was Trump's refutation strategy against Clinton. Except that it was easily demonstrable that he was wrong. So where's your refutation of Ann Jones' claim? Also, she's making the claim for Norway, not all Europe so your claim of growing up in Europe contradicting what she wrote is like someone saying that life in poor areas of Louisiana sucks and having the Khardashians refute it by saying "we grew up in America and our life is great"
I did not specify "center-left" only social democracies. How many Euro countries fall under that definition?
If Ann Jones can be ignored then so can a lot of rich opinionated assholes who disparage anything outside America but have never bothered to live anywhere else. Why shouldn't I start by ignoring their drivel?.
The only way Obama could have been considered a liberal is if he was being compared to hardline conservative
Obama isn't a "liberal" in the traditional sense of the word, he is a US-style "liberal", i.e., an authoritarian progressive technocrat.
Just because the GOP loudmouths were labeling him a socialist for months before he was elected didn't make it true.
The confusion between "socialists" and "social democrats" is something Democrats themselves engaged in when they incorrectly referred to the Nordic countries as "socialist". Don't blame the GOP for this.
I don't know when that labeled began to be applied to the Euro countries or by whom but it's clear one side doesn't truly understand the advanced social democracies and the other doesn't care to https://www.thenation.com/arti...
like the grateful driver whose Model S slammed on the brakes to prevent a collision with a pedestrian
There are other cars equipped with lane-keeping technology and automatic emergency braking. However the makers of these cars don't pretend that they are a completely autonomous car.
Some day we will get there sure, but the "Auto-Pilot" technology in Tesla is no more advanced than what's available in other manufacturer's products.
It is. It routinely performs better than the competition in testing by car reviewers. But it isn't good enough - yet - and I don't know when it'll be. My personal opinion is that if I'm buying a $100k performance car, I'M DRIVING, not some autistic software robot. But I know one day I'll be too old to care & technology will be good enough - but not today & not soon. Elon clearly disagrees but I worry that the software quality & testing isn't rigorous enough and legislators may crack down, which may be a good thing.
And George Hotz is dangerously smart - and recklessly stupid.
By any measure Obama is center-left. That said, he did deport more illegal immigrants than his predecessor, he did not close Gitmo, and he kept executing wars of aggression against other countries.
Still, let's review this quote from TFA: "I think many Americans are waking up to the fact we have created a presidency that is too powerful,"
I think that was true already even before Obama was president. But, of course much of the debate stopped because the ones making this argument liked Obama and his center-left policies. If electing Trump keeps this debate going that is a good thing - but I suspect most people are just in opposition because their candidate lost, and would not be discussing it if Clinton had been elected.
Nonsense. Congress has effectively nullified much of what Obama wanted to do since 2010. The only thing that made him powerful was the early support of the people and Democratic control Congress. That went up in smoke years ago. Trump now has those same advantages and many of the elected GOP as as crazy or much more so than he is.
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The GOP went full retard years ago and have gotten the electorate to follow, led by the 1st Orange-American President.
"When you call for a "single payer system", what you are calling for is simply that even more money goes directly from tax payers to pharmaceutical companies and the medical industry and is controlled by large political donors and lobbyists. That is, you are a cheerleader for corporate interests and crony capitalism, and you don't even realize it"
I'm well aware of what I stand for - and you definitely aren't - & many changes have to be made. The revolving doors between the White House & Congress and the big lobbyists has to be removed & the way money flows to politicians has to be entirely reformed. I don't believe any single system has all the answers but I do like a lot of what Canada does. Their healthcare system needs some reform but if that was the system that Obamacare had imposed, it would have been much more advantageous for the USA.
"I was kind of hoping the MLC endurance had kind of passed some threshold where endurance wasn't really a factor anymore for all but the most intensive write applications"
Here's a hint: "features lower cost 3rd-generation 3-bit MLC V-NAND flash memory"
3-bit is TLC not MLC so that may explain the poor endurance
"You first generally accused people of not having lived outside the US, and I pointed out I had"
Bullshit.
You wrote that Dems confused the issue by incorrectly calling Nordic nations socialist instead of social democracies,
I replied that Dems don't truly understand how they work and GOP et al aren't interested and added a link to Ann Jones' article - who you dismissed as a
"a rich, stupid American political hack, writing patronizing and ignorant articles about European countries" .
It wasn't until that point that I mentioned there are plenty of well-off Americans who've never lived anywhere else that think no system is or can be better.
That's not at all the same.
Thread begins here: https://slashdot.org/comments....
"My dismantling of your references, however, wasn't based on my experience, it was based on easily verifiable facts independent of my own experience. You, on the other hand, seem to lack both experience outside the US and knowledge"
You're wrong on both counts but it's pointless to try to change your mind. And your "dismantling" is also bullshit.
You disregarded Jones article about Norway because you've lived in Europe?
Where? Portugal is in Europe and so is Poland. Life in those places is very different from each other and even more different in Norway.
"The US health care system wasn't free-market pre-ACA, and it isn't free market post-ACA. The overwhelming problem with the US healthcare system is its lack of cost and price controls, whether market-based or government imposed. That will cause the US health care system to fail more and more people every year, bankrupting families and denying treatments. And the reason for that is because voters like you let themselves be manipulated into supporting programs that serve the interests of politically connected corporations and lobbyists"
I've said long before Obama had dented the public consciousness that America needed to get to a single-payer program. The simplest way seemed to be Medicare-for-all. But nothing is simple in The Greatest Nation in History
"because I grew up in Europe and know that they are full of it"
Europe is a big & varied place. You don't have the sole experience of it.
Lots of people have wonderful lives in America
Others, like this deceased friend, not so much. What treatments she could get couldn't save her but they could bankrupt her, as dictated by the free market
https://www.tnjustice.org/lara...
http://www.gentrygriffey.com/o...
"Great! You recognize that public borrowing and excessive spending are a problem"
I recognize that there's a lot of manipulation in financial markets and the foxes are in charge of the henhouse in the great USofA
A small number of greedy fucks nearly collapsed the world economy but it's all the fault of the general public who wouldn't know a CDO if they tripped over one.
"And because you think Trump's staff lies and panders, it's OK for you to do the same thing?"
I'm doing neither but hey, what's sauce for the goose, as Mitt Romney would say.
He's going to settle. It isn't in his best interest to fight it like he wanted to. In reality, he probably would have won, but it's easier to settle out and make this go away.
Hard to say. The man has a stubborn streak. And he may be emboldened by the judge advising the plaintiffs that a settlement is in their best interests.
I'm concerned that may lead him to offer what for him is a terrific deal but an insult to those suing, which may cause them to dig in their heels.
"I said if Democrats want to win they shouldn't put felons on the ballot. The same applies to all other parties."
A felon is someone who's been charged & convicted, not merely accused.
Most politicians I've ever heard of have been accused of things that are felonies now even if that may not have been true at the time.
True, nothing excludes me. But my status of nitwittiness is as irrelevant as Trumps to the truth of Ann Jones's or Mark Markson's or your bullshit.
There's plenty of bullshit - and truth - to go around. Dismissing others out of hand because of your elitism is supposedly what got Trump elected in the 1st place.
As for all those economic texts you presumably have read, what good has it done any country?
Before answering - spend some time at the link below.
http://www.nationaldebtclocks....
"I'm saying that if Democrats want to be successful it would certainly help if they can find people to run that weren't accused of committing multiple felonies"
Can you explain why that standard should be applied only to Democrats?
Chris Christie, Scott Walker & Rick Perry have more than a few legal woes
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
And the President-elect is now begging off his own upcoming court appearance regarding Trump University - a case that's been ongoing for over 5 years.
Trump has changed the game. If he can win, so can Harris.
In fact, so can anyone. His win has effectively killed any & all pretexts for disqualifying a candidate short of a confession for a violent crime.
Not religious? No problem. The evangelicals were behind him and he doesn't know anything about the Bible except for a couple lines from "Two Corinthians".
Don't respect women? It's all "boy talk", no big deal. Besides some are just too ugly & nasty anyway.
Make creepy comments and be awkwardly handsy with own daughter? Just fatherly affection; I'm sure it'll be cool if Barack did the same with Malia.
Be the most ignorant candidate to get nominated, perhaps ever? No problem. Just put "Make America Great Again" on a cap and chant "USA, USA" a few times.
Pledge to clean up Washington aka "drain the swamp"? With Mike Pence, Reince Preibus, Rudy Giuliani, perhaps Chris Christie?
Yes Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus.
"The fact that Trump and the GOP are ignorant nitwits doesn't mean that Ann Jones, Mark Manson, or, for that matter, you, aren't ignorant nitwits as well, as you indeed are"
This supposed nitwit would like to point out that nothing excludes you from that happy company.
Those hordes of conservatives have their own - Sodahead. I was no it for a while but I couldn't stand all the rightwingnut bullshit so I ditched and never looked back.
If conservatives feel the same about Facebook, they can make like a Mexican and LEAVE
"As long as that is your rhetoric, you will continue to lose.
Because you continue to blame strawmen instead of learning from your mistakes"
No. The mistake was not voting for your candidate even if you didn't think much of her. Hillary was never going to be my 1st choice but better her than Trump.
For all the blather about the revolt against the establishment, Trump failed to get as many votes as MITT ROMNEY, the blandest whitebread establishment candidate in many a year. And he got ~700,000 fewer votes than the much-hated Clinton and millions fewer than a Kenyan Muslim.
Put Kamala Harris on the Dem ticket in 2020 and watch the orange blowhard get stomped by a Jamaican-South Indian woman
If they hadn't been rigging the news feeds and injecting their own bias, they wouldn't have gotten into this mess.
Facebook is not a news site; if conservatives aren't happy with what they see there, they can go to Sodahead.
"You mean what do I make of a piece of political propaganda written by someone who writes books on how to pick up women for a living? A piece filled with illogic, platitudes, and elitism? A piece that reduces economic and social developments to cherry-picked statistics?"
That might have been a worthy rebuke years ago, before the GOP became a gaggle of nitwits and eventually a clown caucus whose base elevated America's greatest conman to the presidency. He hasn't read his *own* books, for fuck's sake.
"I suggest you pick up some real books on economics, history, politics, and social science"
Tell that to Trump & the people he's putting in charge. None of them have a clue except how to lie & pander.
I wonder what you'll make of this - it certainly won't go over well with Trump & the people who elected him
http://observer.com/2016/11/th...
"potentially slowing down the development of this technology"
Not necessarily. Development will proceed and when it's good enough, I'm sure the insurance lobby will put plenty of pressure on the legislature.
But the tools & tech needed to improve will proceed, mapping, neural nets, cheaper & better sensors, CPUs / GPUs. etc.
Also are we talking about the same Ann Jones - there's more than one prominent one out there?
The one who wrote the piece I linked sure doesn't seem like some rich bitch with no clue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"As someone who grew up in Europe and emigrated to the US, I can only tell you that she is a political hack and that what she says is bullshit."
Well I know what she claims but all I know about what you claim is that she is wrong - which was Trump's refutation strategy against Clinton.
Except that it was easily demonstrable that he was wrong.
So where's your refutation of Ann Jones' claim?
Also, she's making the claim for Norway, not all Europe so your claim of growing up in Europe contradicting what she wrote is like someone saying that life in poor areas of Louisiana sucks and having the Khardashians refute it by saying "we grew up in America and our life is great"
I did not specify "center-left" only social democracies. How many Euro countries fall under that definition?
If Ann Jones can be ignored then so can a lot of rich opinionated assholes who disparage anything outside America but have never bothered to live anywhere else.
Why shouldn't I start by ignoring their drivel?.
Obama isn't a "liberal" in the traditional sense of the word, he is a US-style "liberal", i.e., an authoritarian progressive technocrat.
The confusion between "socialists" and "social democrats" is something Democrats themselves engaged in when they incorrectly referred to the Nordic countries as "socialist". Don't blame the GOP for this.
I don't know when that labeled began to be applied to the Euro countries or by whom but it's clear one side doesn't truly understand the advanced social democracies and the other doesn't care to
https://www.thenation.com/arti...
like the grateful driver whose Model S slammed on the brakes to prevent a collision with a pedestrian
There are other cars equipped with lane-keeping technology and automatic emergency braking. However the makers of these cars don't pretend that they are a completely autonomous car.
Some day we will get there sure, but the "Auto-Pilot" technology in Tesla is no more advanced than what's available in other manufacturer's products.
It is. It routinely performs better than the competition in testing by car reviewers. But it isn't good enough - yet - and I don't know when it'll be.
My personal opinion is that if I'm buying a $100k performance car, I'M DRIVING, not some autistic software robot.
But I know one day I'll be too old to care & technology will be good enough - but not today & not soon.
Elon clearly disagrees but I worry that the software quality & testing isn't rigorous enough and legislators may crack down, which may be a good thing.
And George Hotz is dangerously smart - and recklessly stupid.
By any measure Obama is center-left. That said, he did deport more illegal immigrants than his predecessor, he did not close Gitmo, and he kept executing wars of aggression against other countries.
Still, let's review this quote from TFA: "I think many Americans are waking up to the fact we have created a presidency that is too powerful,"
I think that was true already even before Obama was president. But, of course much of the debate stopped because the ones making this argument liked Obama and his center-left policies. If electing Trump keeps this debate going that is a good thing - but I suspect most people are just in opposition because their candidate lost, and would not be discussing it if Clinton had been elected.
Nonsense. Congress has effectively nullified much of what Obama wanted to do since 2010. The only thing that made him powerful was the early support of the people and Democratic control Congress. That went up in smoke years ago.
Trump now has those same advantages and many of the elected GOP as as crazy or much more so than he is.