When "Automotive industry" includes people who drive and "Healthcare industry" includes parents that administer medication your comparison will be valid.
People who use computers and people who make computers and computer software are both considerd IT workers. That's the difference.
Once the vast majority of people can handle a particular job it's not a "skilled" position. Data entry falls into this category, as does word processing.
Holy shit, that's one of the darkest posts I've ever read.
I hope thinking like yours doesn't become a trend. We need optimism and ambition, not this pessimistic crap. Life is what you make of it, and there are always more opportunities than there are people. Within reason, what you want is almost always within your reach if you're willing to work hard enough. If we go to hell in a handbasket it's going to be because people who think like you will take us there. Fortunatly I think you're in the vast minority and could probably do with some anti-depressants.
I hate the Information Technology label. If anybody asks me if I'm an IT worker I say "no". Even data entry jobs are IT. I wouldn't even call myself a programmer, though I write code. People who do hiring know the difference between the types of people that get lumped into the IT category, so why can't the trade rags, marketing departments, and mainstream media figure it out?
And for the record, even though IT jobs are down, software engineering jobs are up. Especially in the Operating systems and Device Driver areas. If they didn't lump unskilled workers and skilled workers together in the same category they'd be able to tell the difference.
you just might see the gap in installed userbases narrow quite a bit.
In Japan last week, more PS2s were sold than they've sold Xboxes in all of 2004. There are 78 million PS2s out there. The gap isn't going anywhere this console generation.
Plus, all the non-hardcore Xbox/Halo fanboys can just wait for the PC version to come out in 6 months and snag a copy for $35 just like they do with every other reasonably good "exclusive" Xbox game that comes out. They all get a Windows version.
The drop from the peak in marketshare of x86 chip sales is partially due to increased x86 server sales. Intel grew their market to include areas that previously were accessable to only the likes of Sun and IBM, and AMD continued selling to the same people they always had. I don't have a source, but if you looked at the numbers for just desktop systems you'd see a better picture for AMD; probably even better than the 21% they had back in 2000.
Editorial commentary aside, name one blog or even collection of blogs that even comes close to being the primary source of raw factual reporting as just one of the news outlets you've mentioned?
Until the bloggers spend some cash hiring reporters and stop using the mainstream media's reporting as the basis for the bulk of their output, they'll always be playing second fiddle.
John Kerry's name is mentioned nowhere in the article. Its just about the quirks of the voting system, which should by and large be fixed. Stop being so defensive
Aah the classic pseudo-pundit defense. Because you imply something in a story by spinning the facts, but never actually say what you're implying, you can deny holding the position you advocate when the facts later prove not to support you.
Go listen to Daniel Schorr and keep pretending that people should be held accountable for what gets said between the lines.
So what you're saying is that they're taking money away from schools and using it to violate our mothers with lasers from space? You're right, that's outrageous. It should be stopped.
When I was an intern for IBM/Lotus Development between 1998 and 2000, I made $20 an hour. If I wanted credit for the work I did have to turn around and give my school $900 a quarter for it, but I'd still have come out signifigabtly in the positive if I had chosen to do that.
Here's just one example from these articles that essentially are all basing their hypothesis on the fact that the exit polls predicted a closer election and the opposite outcome:
So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial, question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know.
You know what else the exit polls don't show? How many people told the pollster to mind their own business. The 2000 exit polls leaned towards Gore than the actual outcome, so why should we expect differently for the 2004 vote?
Here's another:
A skew means a systematic error is introduced by the test protocol and causes a consistent shift in one direction.
IF this was true, then all the exit polls would show the same sort of shift from 'actual' results.
The GOP offer an alternative argument that the exit polls are not large enough samples and therefore the results are off by a large random error.
IF this was true, then the exit polls should scatter on either side of the actual result, especially if the final result is close to 50/50.
Aah, but combine the two explainations and you have results that are scattered on either side of the skewed result. Convieniently, you can leave out interpretations of the statistics that are inconvienient to your argument.
To me though, the most convincing explination is this: If there really was a vote rigging conspiracy, the Kerry folks would have to be in on it, otherwise they'd be out pushing these same "facts" that these biased news sites are pushing instead of admitting defeat.
Why, because you're going to keep the extra copies under lock and key until 11/10 to "teach people a lesson" about preordering?
The EBGames in my local mall had "zero" copies of GTA San Andreas at 9:00 PM on release day if you hadn't pre-oredered, but dozens the next morning. Luckily Wal-Mart doesn't pull such stupid crap, and I was able to get one of their 100+ copies the day the game came out. You really expect me to believe that with how many copies they're hoping to sell of this game that they aren't shipping enough to retailers? Halo 2 won't be sold out. It's the games that *aren't* expected to sell well that you need to pre-order.
I was not blindly guessing, the 8 Bush voters I spoke to yesterday at different times of the day 1) did not know what the clear skies act was, had not heard of it even, and 2) knew that "north korea" was bad but did not know why. After the third person responded this way I started tracking it, trying to stay as neutral sounding as I could when I asked. They were all polite conversations, just sad ones.
There are two things you're neglecting in your analysis. One is that people don't vote based on their opinions on all of the issues, they vote on the issues that are important to them. At best your little survey has only shown that the Bush supporters you talked to have different priorities than you, and not that they are less informed or intelligent overall.
Second, there's a good chance that for every Bush voter you found that answered your questions that way, you could find a Kerry voter that would answer the same way. Indeed sad, but probably true.
I think you're in some strange alternate reality along with all the rest of the assholes that said I was trolling.
Try taking my comment, the entire comment, not just the first sentence, in context. Let's quote the story, shall we?
Considering how close some predict this election to be, losing that many ballots would be catastrophic.
So, how am I lacking in understanding by saying that while this is serious, it's not as much of a problem as the poster makes it out to be, because the election being close would probably has no impact on the situation?
Second, this is one precint in one county in florida. it's literally an island. One shoul dave ZERO expectation that its average demographics and voting pattern represents the state average.
True, but it's only one machine from less than a quarter of the day. There were other machines, and other votes from after the problem was discovered.
This is moot really, since there are paper copies and nothing was lost.
I didn't say it was insignifigant, I said it would be unlikely to change the outcome. Apparently your sarcastic spin on what I said is insightful, while my perfectly reasonable assessment of the situation was "Flamebait" though.
It's not like these are 13,000 votes for one candidate or the other... They likely represent approximatly the same statistical distribution of votes from the other machines in that area. Sure, this is serious, but losing those 13,000 votes is unlikely to swing the election one way or the other even if the outcome is decided on less than a 1,000 vote difference.
I have to be one of the messiest people alive... I never dust. It's obscene. But my PS2 that I got on release day still works great after thousands of hours of play time. I do have to run the lens cleaner disc through it every 6 months or so, but so what? You had to clean the Atari 2600 and original NES too. Don't you remember those cleaning kits they used to have? The cartridge wiggle? I don't think the good old days were as good as you remember.
Take care of your stuff. If you've gone through four PS2s, you're doing something wrong.
I wasn't comparing them. I can see how they could be complimentary and how they are different, however, in my 2004 vehicle that has a nav option in Europe and Canada, the dealer informed me that the nav system was replaced by OnStar in the US. Aftermarket nav systems don't offer nearly the same level of interface integration and aren't at all comparable to factory installed nav. Sure, I could have bought a different car, but there's more to choosing a car than the nav system.
As for your wife's park story, well... For the $700 it costs to have the OnStar option that's not guranteed to work beyond 2008, and for the rediculous anount they charge for the premium service needed to get more than door lock and ambulance service they damn well better bend over backwards for you.
Just because it's possible to use a traditional map to find your way around doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to find better or more convienient methods of accomplishing the same thing. Not only that, but let's see your paper map route you around a traffic jam without you have to get stuck in said traffic to know it was there. Let's see you fit city street level of detail maps for ever town in a single state in your glove compartment, nevermind doing it for the entire US. Nobody said anything about not being able to read a map. Nobody said anything about using the technology irresponsiblly. If I wanted something that would make it so I didn't need as many skills, I would have gotten an automatic transmission.
I'll give you one guess about where I'm thinking about telling you to stick your assumptions about me before I call you a luddite.
As for buying a portable GPS device, that's all well and good, but since you're so concerned about safety I'm sure you can see how having a built-in device could be a much safer option to a hand-held one. I like to have one hand to steer and the other to shift with, thank you. Yeah, yeah, I could pull over. I bet the next thing you're going to tell me is that having your wife reading the map while you drive isn't safe either. Or are you one of those people who complains about people talking on the phone in the car while they yell over their shoulder at the misbehaving kids in the back seat?
I just want the damned navigation system for my car. It's available in Europe and even Canada, but GM has decided that they'd rather sell OnStar in the US because it has a recurring revenue model, and that navigation systems interfere with OnStar premium subscriptions, so they decided not to offer the feature in the US.
The one thing I *don't* want is anything that requires a monthly fee. I'm sure I could come up with some choice words about where they can stick their recurring revenue.
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When "Automotive industry" includes people who drive and "Healthcare industry" includes parents that administer medication your comparison will be valid.
People who use computers and people who make computers and computer software are both considerd IT workers. That's the difference.
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Once the vast majority of people can handle a particular job it's not a "skilled" position. Data entry falls into this category, as does word processing.
Holy shit, that's one of the darkest posts I've ever read.
I hope thinking like yours doesn't become a trend. We need optimism and ambition, not this pessimistic crap. Life is what you make of it, and there are always more opportunities than there are people. Within reason, what you want is almost always within your reach if you're willing to work hard enough. If we go to hell in a handbasket it's going to be because people who think like you will take us there. Fortunatly I think you're in the vast minority and could probably do with some anti-depressants.
I hate the Information Technology label. If anybody asks me if I'm an IT worker I say "no". Even data entry jobs are IT. I wouldn't even call myself a programmer, though I write code. People who do hiring know the difference between the types of people that get lumped into the IT category, so why can't the trade rags, marketing departments, and mainstream media figure it out?
And for the record, even though IT jobs are down, software engineering jobs are up. Especially in the Operating systems and Device Driver areas. If they didn't lump unskilled workers and skilled workers together in the same category they'd be able to tell the difference.
you just might see the gap in installed userbases narrow quite a bit.
In Japan last week, more PS2s were sold than they've sold Xboxes in all of 2004. There are 78 million PS2s out there. The gap isn't going anywhere this console generation.
Plus, all the non-hardcore Xbox/Halo fanboys can just wait for the PC version to come out in 6 months and snag a copy for $35 just like they do with every other reasonably good "exclusive" Xbox game that comes out. They all get a Windows version.
The drop from the peak in marketshare of x86 chip sales is partially due to increased x86 server sales. Intel grew their market to include areas that previously were accessable to only the likes of Sun and IBM, and AMD continued selling to the same people they always had. I don't have a source, but if you looked at the numbers for just desktop systems you'd see a better picture for AMD; probably even better than the 21% they had back in 2000.
Editorial commentary aside, name one blog or even collection of blogs that even comes close to being the primary source of raw factual reporting as just one of the news outlets you've mentioned?
Until the bloggers spend some cash hiring reporters and stop using the mainstream media's reporting as the basis for the bulk of their output, they'll always be playing second fiddle.
Um.. Should should be Shouldn't in that last sentence... Oops.
John Kerry's name is mentioned nowhere in the article. Its just about the quirks of the voting system, which should by and large be fixed. Stop being so defensive
Aah the classic pseudo-pundit defense. Because you imply something in a story by spinning the facts, but never actually say what you're implying, you can deny holding the position you advocate when the facts later prove not to support you.
Go listen to Daniel Schorr and keep pretending that people should be held accountable for what gets said between the lines.
The treaty was signed by practically every member of the UN general assembly at the time:
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http://www.state.gov/www/global/arms/treaties/spa
So what you're saying is that they're taking money away from schools and using it to violate our mothers with lasers from space? You're right, that's outrageous. It should be stopped.
When I was an intern for IBM/Lotus Development between 1998 and 2000, I made $20 an hour. If I wanted credit for the work I did have to turn around and give my school $900 a quarter for it, but I'd still have come out signifigabtly in the positive if I had chosen to do that.
Here's just one example from these articles that essentially are all basing their hypothesis on the fact that the exit polls predicted a closer election and the opposite outcome:
So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial, question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know.
You know what else the exit polls don't show? How many people told the pollster to mind their own business. The 2000 exit polls leaned towards Gore than the actual outcome, so why should we expect differently for the 2004 vote?
Here's another:
A skew means a systematic error is introduced by the test protocol and causes a consistent shift in one direction.
IF this was true, then all the exit polls would show the same sort of shift from 'actual' results.
The GOP offer an alternative argument that the exit polls are not large enough samples and therefore the results are off by a large random error.
IF this was true, then the exit polls should scatter on either side of the actual result, especially if the final result is close to 50/50.
Aah, but combine the two explainations and you have results that are scattered on either side of the skewed result. Convieniently, you can leave out interpretations of the statistics that are inconvienient to your argument.
To me though, the most convincing explination is this: If there really was a vote rigging conspiracy, the Kerry folks would have to be in on it, otherwise they'd be out pushing these same "facts" that these biased news sites are pushing instead of admitting defeat.
Hope you all pre-ordered.
Why, because you're going to keep the extra copies under lock and key until 11/10 to "teach people a lesson" about preordering?
The EBGames in my local mall had "zero" copies of GTA San Andreas at 9:00 PM on release day if you hadn't pre-oredered, but dozens the next morning. Luckily Wal-Mart doesn't pull such stupid crap, and I was able to get one of their 100+ copies the day the game came out. You really expect me to believe that with how many copies they're hoping to sell of this game that they aren't shipping enough to retailers? Halo 2 won't be sold out. It's the games that *aren't* expected to sell well that you need to pre-order.
I was not blindly guessing, the 8 Bush voters I spoke to yesterday at different times of the day 1) did not know what the clear skies act was, had not heard of it even, and 2) knew that "north korea" was bad but did not know why. After the third person responded this way I started tracking it, trying to stay as neutral sounding as I could when I asked. They were all polite conversations, just sad ones.
There are two things you're neglecting in your analysis. One is that people don't vote based on their opinions on all of the issues, they vote on the issues that are important to them. At best your little survey has only shown that the Bush supporters you talked to have different priorities than you, and not that they are less informed or intelligent overall.
Second, there's a good chance that for every Bush voter you found that answered your questions that way, you could find a Kerry voter that would answer the same way. Indeed sad, but probably true.
I think you're in some strange alternate reality along with all the rest of the assholes that said I was trolling.
Try taking my comment, the entire comment, not just the first sentence, in context. Let's quote the story, shall we?
Considering how close some predict this election to be, losing that many ballots would be catastrophic.
So, how am I lacking in understanding by saying that while this is serious, it's not as much of a problem as the poster makes it out to be, because the election being close would probably has no impact on the situation?
I think it's you, sir, that missed the point.
Second, this is one precint in one county in florida. it's literally an island. One shoul dave ZERO expectation that its average demographics and voting pattern represents the state average.
True, but it's only one machine from less than a quarter of the day. There were other machines, and other votes from after the problem was discovered.
This is moot really, since there are paper copies and nothing was lost.
I didn't say it was insignifigant, I said it would be unlikely to change the outcome. Apparently your sarcastic spin on what I said is insightful, while my perfectly reasonable assessment of the situation was "Flamebait" though.
It's not like these are 13,000 votes for one candidate or the other... They likely represent approximatly the same statistical distribution of votes from the other machines in that area. Sure, this is serious, but losing those 13,000 votes is unlikely to swing the election one way or the other even if the outcome is decided on less than a 1,000 vote difference.
the static air
There shouldn't be any static air due to convection.
It's just a rumor.
My PS2 has been vertical the whole time.
I have to be one of the messiest people alive... I never dust. It's obscene. But my PS2 that I got on release day still works great after thousands of hours of play time. I do have to run the lens cleaner disc through it every 6 months or so, but so what? You had to clean the Atari 2600 and original NES too. Don't you remember those cleaning kits they used to have? The cartridge wiggle? I don't think the good old days were as good as you remember.
Take care of your stuff. If you've gone through four PS2s, you're doing something wrong.
So take your apples and horshoes comparison...
I wasn't comparing them. I can see how they could be complimentary and how they are different, however, in my 2004 vehicle that has a nav option in Europe and Canada, the dealer informed me that the nav system was replaced by OnStar in the US. Aftermarket nav systems don't offer nearly the same level of interface integration and aren't at all comparable to factory installed nav. Sure, I could have bought a different car, but there's more to choosing a car than the nav system.
As for your wife's park story, well... For the $700 it costs to have the OnStar option that's not guranteed to work beyond 2008, and for the rediculous anount they charge for the premium service needed to get more than door lock and ambulance service they damn well better bend over backwards for you.
Old person mode?
Get over yourself.
Just because it's possible to use a traditional map to find your way around doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to find better or more convienient methods of accomplishing the same thing. Not only that, but let's see your paper map route you around a traffic jam without you have to get stuck in said traffic to know it was there. Let's see you fit city street level of detail maps for ever town in a single state in your glove compartment, nevermind doing it for the entire US. Nobody said anything about not being able to read a map. Nobody said anything about using the technology irresponsiblly. If I wanted something that would make it so I didn't need as many skills, I would have gotten an automatic transmission.
I'll give you one guess about where I'm thinking about telling you to stick your assumptions about me before I call you a luddite.
As for buying a portable GPS device, that's all well and good, but since you're so concerned about safety I'm sure you can see how having a built-in device could be a much safer option to a hand-held one. I like to have one hand to steer and the other to shift with, thank you. Yeah, yeah, I could pull over. I bet the next thing you're going to tell me is that having your wife reading the map while you drive isn't safe either. Or are you one of those people who complains about people talking on the phone in the car while they yell over their shoulder at the misbehaving kids in the back seat?
I just want the damned navigation system for my car. It's available in Europe and even Canada, but GM has decided that they'd rather sell OnStar in the US because it has a recurring revenue model, and that navigation systems interfere with OnStar premium subscriptions, so they decided not to offer the feature in the US.
The one thing I *don't* want is anything that requires a monthly fee. I'm sure I could come up with some choice words about where they can stick their recurring revenue.