SCOvell should be treated as a pariah and isolated. There is nothing Novell has, SuSE included, that Linux users can't easily replace.
The power of collective pressure, of boycott, is one of the few recourses we have against enemies.
If business has the right to be ruthless in behalf of its stockholders, we, the stockholders of Open and Free software, should feel free to do the same.
"While common sense tells us what should be done, what happens when DU contaminated military hardware, or copper cable from nuclear plants gets sent to the crushers in the US??"
That stuff has a chain of custody and isn't likely to make it out of the system. Plenty of asbestos-jacketed copper cable does beat safety controls (which is why burning cable to get #1 grade scrap is NOT smart!) but I haven't seen anything else questionable.
When building crippled "appliances" that are not easily hackable, they'd better be based on a viable business model.
If not, they are another entry in the rolls of the I-Appliance BBS, which dates back to Codeman's I-Opener hack. Why fool around with old compu-junk? Same reason Hillary climbed Everest.
Steel is quite efficient too. I'll take all I can get, because the nice folks at the scrapyard pay me for it. I find the whole e-waste thing questionable for one reason.
I buy cars to part out and then send to the crusher. A car has hundreds of pounds of plastic, glass, and miscellaneous metals including lead in the battery. I watch those cars go straight into the crusher.
When I have old comps and monitors and televisions, they go into those cars along with a wide variety of scrap from my shop. The folks crushing the cars don't care, and the materials are sorted at the shredder.
There is nothing in the computers that isn't in the cars, so why not scrap them together? The computer waste stream is dwarfed by the auto recycling stream, and the auto recycling process is highly refined.
Quite so, as is carrying (key word: "carrying") generic tools (prybar, box cutter, etc.) that can be construed as "burglary tools" purely depending on the context in which they are found.
On the other hand, if I have that stuff and other tools in my wrecker (I do), it is normal and reasonable to have them for doing lockouts or other vehicle-recovery tasks.
I'f I'm diddy-bopping down a dark street at 0300 with that same stuff hidden under my hoodie, the police understandably view things in a different light.
The Cookbook and plenty of others that won't help you accidentally kill yourself are available quite legally.
Maybe this will help: I can buy lockpicks and lockout tools legally. I can buy manuals to unlock any vehicle, also legally. If I'm busted for conspiracy to steal (as opposed to lawfully repo) cars, that stuff becomes evidence along with the rest of the evidence supporting the charges.
It is not out of line to say that Microsoft is an enemy of the Linux community, and that SuSE just sold out. It costs us nothing to drop SuSE and switch to an appropriate distro instead.
The only power we have as users of Free and Open software is the power to include and exclude by our choice.
"Seriously, we managed to "defeat" a 3rd world army that had been under economic sanctions for years."
Yet by DISPERSING it instead of destroying it, its people were free to return to the fight later on, and its weapons dispersed into the Iraqi milita ecosystem.
Rapidly bypassing targets we should have destroyed left enemy forces time to escape to fight us later, which they are doing with enthusiasm! Failure to deploy enough forces to instantly secure Iraq was a gross error. Defeating an enemy quickly on the battlefield is such an RMA "firepower zealot" goal that it distracts from defeating the enemy in the long term. DESTROYING the enemy is what we did not do, so following the lessons of other wars elsewhere the enemy dispersed. Weapons could not be secured by the undersized forces we sent into action. Now those weapons are killing Iraqis and destabilizing Iraq.
No, it wasn't, because it bypassed areas we should have secured, and fighters we should have destroyed instead of leaving to fight another day at the cost of more casualties and prolonged instability.
His failings are many, to include failing to request a Cold War-level buildup when there was a mandate for it, expecting that Iraqis would want democracy (hint-Iraq is not Europe!), and expecting that we could control Iraq after firing everyone who had experince because they were (of course) Baathists. His RMA "firepower is everything" ideology led us (despite warnings like Somalia and Chechnya) to go into Iraq with vehicles and tactics unsuitable for urban combat. He has done serious damage to the US military and I'm delighted to see him leave.
"An hour installing then you're ready to work, right out of the box, with very little tweaking required (unless you need support for bleeding-edge hardware)."
That isn't unusual anymore. When I do a Kanotix install I can work/surf DURING the installation since it runs from live CD. I can use the live CD to determine what I need to do before installing, and as a rescue disk afterwards (though I mostly use that on Windows systems). Linux is now (generally) much easier to installl and update than Windows if your hardware is supported.
"I just felt really, really sorry for him." At bottom, I bet he's really a sweet old duffer.... Ask any Iraqi Shiite, Kurd, or Kuwaiti.
"Will killing him bring back the 148 dead Shiites?" Punishment does not repair crime and that is not its purpose. It will keep the Sunnis from fighting to reinstate him and remove their figurehead. Remember the Ceausescus? It was necessary to kill them to complete the revolution. Same theory here.
"2. Fully support NTFS so I can dual boot and not only be able to work with my linux files from linux and my windows files from windows. At least have full read-write support on NTFS so I can really be able to use it in linux."
My NTFS files reside on my Windows box.
By the time you arrive at the level of geekery where using both OS serves you, there isn't much reason not to have multiple machines instead of dual-booting. I control mine using a KVM switch, or use tsclient while kicking back in my recliner.
I've run Freesco and later MonoWall firewalls on mostly-free hardware (Asus P255T2P4/128MB/P233 with super-glued passive heatsink) almost 24/7 since 1999. Neither have been difficult to set up, and Freesco is very noob-friendly. Freesco needs minimal resources and will even run on a 486. Both have performed with boring, appliance-like reliability. I run from a Compact Flash card in an IDE adapter instead of a hard disk. Those parts are dirt cheap nowadays.
That Win2K disk is also good for data recovery. Just install on top of your borked XP system without reformatting.:) I have all the live CD alternatives, but if you only have a Win2K disk you can still save your stuff.
Encrypting files rather than drive access is preferable to me, because if I forget a password I can still wipe and reuse the drive. Solutions that result in junk hardware are probably ok for some commercial customers, but I'd like to be able to save my gear if things go wrong.
Unless the guns sprout feet they aren't going to disturb Venezuela. Ground forces are required to occupy a country. Firepower does not do that. No proxy army is in the offing either, so there is no reasonable expectation of invasion.
Tinfoil-hattery is emotionally delicious, but there is more money to be made buying and refining Venezuela crude.
The decision to not attempt to arrest global warming is an option. Since effective global cooperation to halt it will obviously not happen, the alternative of pursuing economic growth is a choice. Some areas will be written off, and marginal human settlements will disappear. It is not reasonable to sacrifice high-tech areas to maintain low tech cultures, so this will not happen.
Nice try, but as you come into the policeman's field of view he will then see the actual situation. Decisions to tase are made after actions such as directing the person to stop, raise their hands, etc are disregarded.
The prices for music CDs have gone UP since they were first available! I remember how happy I was to have an option better than vinyl or tape, but that was a long time ago. Price them at say five bucks and CDs will fall into the "impulse purchase" zone.
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Or stacked, so stepping on the AP mine(s) triggers the AT mine(s) underneath.
SCOvell should be treated as a pariah and isolated. There is nothing Novell has, SuSE included, that Linux users can't easily replace.
The power of collective pressure, of boycott, is one of the few recourses we have against enemies.
If business has the right to be ruthless in behalf of its stockholders, we, the stockholders of Open and Free software, should feel free to do the same.
"While common sense tells us what should be done, what happens when DU contaminated military hardware, or copper cable from nuclear plants gets sent to the crushers in the US??"
That stuff has a chain of custody and isn't likely to make it out of the system.
Plenty of asbestos-jacketed copper cable does beat safety controls (which is why burning cable to get #1 grade scrap is NOT smart!) but I haven't seen anything else questionable.
When building crippled "appliances" that are not easily hackable, they'd better be based on a viable business model.
t raBoard.pl
If not, they are another entry in the rolls of the I-Appliance BBS, which dates back to Codeman's I-Opener hack.
Why fool around with old compu-junk? Same reason Hillary climbed Everest.
http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/Ul
Steel is quite efficient too. I'll take all I can get, because the nice folks at the scrapyard pay me for it.
I find the whole e-waste thing questionable for one reason.
I buy cars to part out and then send to the crusher.
A car has hundreds of pounds of plastic, glass, and miscellaneous metals including lead in the battery.
I watch those cars go straight into the crusher.
When I have old comps and monitors and televisions, they go into those cars along with a wide variety of scrap from my shop.
The folks crushing the cars don't care, and the materials are sorted at the shredder.
There is nothing in the computers that isn't in the cars, so why not scrap them together? The computer waste stream is dwarfed by the auto recycling stream, and the auto recycling process is highly refined.
Quite so, as is carrying (key word: "carrying") generic tools (prybar, box cutter, etc.) that can be construed as "burglary tools" purely depending on the context in which they are found.
On the other hand, if I have that stuff and other tools in my wrecker (I do), it is normal and reasonable to have them for doing lockouts or other vehicle-recovery tasks.
I'f I'm diddy-bopping down a dark street at 0300 with that same stuff hidden under my hoodie, the police understandably view things in a different light.
The Cookbook and plenty of others that won't help you accidentally kill yourself are available quite legally.
Maybe this will help:
I can buy lockpicks and lockout tools legally. I can buy manuals to unlock any vehicle, also legally.
If I'm busted for conspiracy to steal (as opposed to lawfully repo) cars, that stuff becomes evidence along with the rest of the evidence supporting the charges.
Time for the Linux community to shun SuSE.
It is not out of line to say that Microsoft is an enemy of the Linux community, and that SuSE just sold out.
It costs us nothing to drop SuSE and switch to an appropriate distro instead.
The only power we have as users of Free and Open software is the power to include and exclude by our choice.
The ideals behind Debian look better every day.
"Seriously, we managed to "defeat" a 3rd world army that had been under economic sanctions for years."
Yet by DISPERSING it instead of destroying it, its people were free to return to the fight later on, and its weapons dispersed into the Iraqi milita ecosystem.
No, it was not, because it had critical flaws.
Rapidly bypassing targets we should have destroyed left enemy forces time to escape to fight us later, which they are doing with enthusiasm!
Failure to deploy enough forces to instantly secure Iraq was a gross error. Defeating an enemy quickly on the battlefield is such an RMA "firepower zealot" goal that it distracts from defeating the enemy in the long term.
DESTROYING the enemy is what we did not do, so following the lessons of other wars elsewhere the enemy dispersed. Weapons could not be secured by the undersized forces we sent into action. Now those weapons are killing Iraqis and destabilizing Iraq.
No, it wasn't, because it bypassed areas we should have secured, and fighters we should have destroyed instead of leaving to fight another day at the cost of more casualties and prolonged instability.
His failings are many, to include failing to request a Cold War-level buildup when there was a mandate for it, expecting that Iraqis would want democracy (hint-Iraq is not Europe!), and expecting that we could control Iraq after firing everyone who had experince because they were (of course) Baathists.
His RMA "firepower is everything" ideology led us (despite warnings like Somalia and Chechnya) to go into Iraq with vehicles and tactics unsuitable for urban combat.
He has done serious damage to the US military and I'm delighted to see him leave.
"An hour installing then you're ready to work, right out of the box, with very little tweaking required (unless you need support for bleeding-edge hardware)."
That isn't unusual anymore.
When I do a Kanotix install I can work/surf DURING the installation since it runs from live CD.
I can use the live CD to determine what I need to do before installing, and as a rescue disk afterwards (though I mostly use that on Windows systems).
Linux is now (generally) much easier to installl and update than Windows if your hardware is supported.
"I just felt really, really sorry for him."
At bottom, I bet he's really a sweet old duffer.... Ask any Iraqi Shiite, Kurd, or Kuwaiti.
"Will killing him bring back the 148 dead Shiites?"
Punishment does not repair crime and that is not its purpose.
It will keep the Sunnis from fighting to reinstate him and remove their figurehead.
Remember the Ceausescus? It was necessary to kill them to complete the revolution. Same theory here.
It isn't, and even /.ers would not escape hearing about it elsewhere.
"2. Fully support NTFS so I can dual boot and not only be able to work with my linux files from linux and my windows files from windows. At least have full read-write support on NTFS so I can really be able to use it in linux."
My NTFS files reside on my Windows box.
By the time you arrive at the level of geekery where using both OS serves you, there isn't much reason not to have multiple machines instead of dual-booting. I control mine using a KVM switch, or use tsclient while kicking back in my recliner.
Not rely on software firewalls?
:)
I've run Freesco and later MonoWall firewalls on mostly-free hardware (Asus P255T2P4/128MB/P233 with super-glued passive heatsink) almost 24/7 since 1999. Neither have been difficult to set up, and Freesco is very noob-friendly. Freesco needs minimal resources and will even run on a 486.
Both have performed with boring, appliance-like reliability. I run from a Compact Flash card in an IDE adapter instead of a hard disk. Those parts are dirt cheap nowadays.
http://www.freesco.org/
http://m0n0.ch/wall/index.php
http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/ Get ideinfo.exe from here to check CF card parameters.
http://www.pfsense.com/ I haven't tried this yet, but it's a popular fork of MonoWall so I'm mentioning it to save someone else the trouble.
Is this that?
http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Imaging_with_a_LiveCD
That Win2K disk is also good for data recovery. :)
Just install on top of your borked XP system without reformatting.
I have all the live CD alternatives, but if you only have a Win2K disk you can still save your stuff.
Encrypting files rather than drive access is preferable to me, because if I forget a password I can still wipe and reuse the drive. Solutions that result in junk hardware are probably ok for some commercial customers, but I'd like to be able to save my gear if things go wrong.
Unless the guns sprout feet they aren't going to disturb Venezuela.
Ground forces are required to occupy a country. Firepower does not do that.
No proxy army is in the offing either, so there is no reasonable expectation of invasion.
Tinfoil-hattery is emotionally delicious, but there is more money to be made buying and refining Venezuela crude.
The decision to not attempt to arrest global warming is an option.
Since effective global cooperation to halt it will obviously not happen, the alternative of pursuing economic growth is a choice.
Some areas will be written off, and marginal human settlements will disappear. It is not reasonable to sacrifice high-tech areas to maintain low tech cultures, so this will not happen.
Invade Venezuela with what resources?
The best restraint against US adventurism is that we are mired in other adventures.
Nice try, but as you come into the policeman's field of view he will then see the actual situation. Decisions to tase are made after actions such as directing the person to stop, raise their hands, etc are disregarded.
The prices for music CDs have gone UP since they were first available!
I remember how happy I was to have an option better than vinyl or tape, but that was a long time ago.
Price them at say five bucks and CDs will fall into the "impulse purchase" zone.
The PC does not decide "right" or "wrong", it flags actions for further human review.
Humans decide to engage any investigative or legal processes.