I think you're assuming that socialism == left wing. Not so. Many (including the most infamous one) on what is now seen as the extreme right were socialists.
Despotism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive. Far from it. They appear to be mutual attractors. Mugabe began as a socialist, over the past decade became so corrupt that ideology was irrelevant (apparently he got so full of himself he no longer felt a need to justify the looting), as of last year vows to return to Marxist-Leninist roots. He's a socialist despot. All too common these last ~85 years.
Tom's managed to raise $10K this year in support of all of his fine projects, arch being only one of them. We're not trying to do everything he is doing, all we do is source management. The problem is that we spend $10K every day or so in salaries.
Seems Tom is a wee bit more efficient. That's your problem.
And we are dramatically understaffed compared to any other SCM company, when they figure out how small our engineering staff is they are amazed that we are able to do what we do.
So Tom is doubly amazing!
If any of you can show how to support the salary cost it actually takes to support a product like Arch/Subversion/BitKeeper/whatever with an open source business model, we'll happily do so. We would like it much better if we could. As far as we can tell, we can't and we can also see that Tom can't either. Prove us wrong. Show us how. We'd love be shown that we don't understand. Just make sure that you show up with $100,000/day rather than $40/day which is what Tom is raising.
You're making the assumption that a good SCM can't be developed for less than $10k (or is it $100k?) a day. Subversion, Arch and OpenCM are proving you wrong. Sometimes one or a few really good developers working for next to nothing are better than a companyful of developer seats.
I dig Ruby, but I don't see it as a compromise between Java and Perl. Not much like java at all really, unless all allegedly "OO" languages look alike to you. If I had to put Ruby "halfway" between two languages they'd be Perl and Smalltalk.
Plain and simple. Doesn't matter that it's money for tech rather than pork bellies. The rest of upstate NY has been in a tailspin for many years. Some of the highest taxes and unemployment rates render the cheap cost of living moot for most businesses and people. Rather than forking over cash to IBM and the like NY needs to cut taxes and bureaucracy, benefitting everyone in the state, not just those powerful enough to wrangle welfare and newcomers. I highly doubt Albany will become a vibrant tech area as Austin has (and Sematech is only a small part of the Austin phenomenon -- it is also the most liberal city for many hundreds of miles, making it a Schelling point for creatives in the South -- Albany OTOH has much tougher competition) and it's sad to see government always chasing last decade's one-trick pony. State and local government should not attempt to turn their region into a mecca for anything in particular. The best meccas become so organically. Who can tell what Albany, or other city will could become known for in decades hence? Nobody. By keeping taxes high and throwing money at a few favored companies politicians are only ensuring future stagnation.
Perhaps because the crowds software hasn't been updated since 1998, the server in the default configuration refuses connections and there's no support or development mailing lists nor public cvs. Crowds is "only" 3301 lines of Perl, entirely feasible to reimplement if they disagreed with some crowds design decision, didn't want the Perl dependency, or simply wanted to write it themselves. If crowds had a significant user base they should've thought about implementing its protocol, but it doesn't seem to. Perhaps someone should fork crowds and put it on sourceforge (after pinging the original authors).
Lots of evidence that a calorie restricted diet slows aging (works in animals from nematodes to primates), and a number of people doing it (including me). See the Calorie Restriction "Society" site. Also just today CBS Evening News did a segment on CR.
BTW, CR is not about starvation or malnourishment (the latter can occur while eating tons of calories of they're all junk). People on a calorie restricted diet try to practice "CRON" -- Calorie Restriction with Optimal Nutrition.
That may seem hard and some people do go to great lengths in pursuit of optimality, but it is really pretty simple: cut out junk (low nutrition) calories (especially sugar), eat (lots) more vegetables (without smothering added vegetables in high calorie oils and cheeses).
You're confusing the Atkins diet and calorie restriction referenced by the post you replied to. Now some people imagine that CR does involve suffering (it doesn't for me though).
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Sorry, Java will be the COBOL of the first half of this century. Ubiquitous in "business" applications, considered boring, retrograde, old hat, etc.
You may be completely satisfied with Perl 5, though many others aren't. Perl 6 may keep some of them from migrating to Ruby or Python, as well as attracting new programmers. I did my first "web" programming in Perl (4 actually), though I'd never suggest Perl to a newbie now.
Bitzi offers a solution similar to the one proposed in the parent's parent(? file ratings and other metadata associated with full file hashes). For partial/subrange verification, check out the proposed Tree Hash EXchange format.
When the poster announced this project a little over two years ago I asked why in the world spend time developing another configuration management system with many extant, more on the horizon, and so much work left on EROS. I certainly thought OpenCM (then DCMS) would never see the light of day. I was wrong, and glad about it. I'm really looking forward to disconnected operations.
Imagine a 3rd-party system which keeps track of the audio fingerprint for a known "good" copy of a song. Then somebody could fingerprint their version of the song through the 3rd-party verification system.
The spoofers could still send the fingerprint of the good version before sending the bad version. Unless the service does several individual fingerprints on different parts of the mp3
Tree Hash EXchange describes a cool way of doing this. That's a big reason Bitzi uses the top of a tiger hash tree in its bitprint file identifier (a sha1 hash is the other part).
We've pretty much scaled all the smaller and more well-known mountains like "portability" and
"security" and are now left with some of the taller and more foreboding peaks, like "clustering", "distributed filesystems" and "ubiquitous computing".
Good thing security is in quotes. Not a small mountain, nor has it been scaled. See the Saving the UNIX API thread from a few months ago on the cap-talk mailing list.
ASA and Emperor Linux also sell preloaded Linux laptops. I bought a used laptop I knew would be supported but I'd really like there to be Linux options for the latest models.
IDG: Let's pretend Opera has a 93 percent market share. Does it make a difference that its code
is open source?
Perhaps he really meant "Let's pretend" to apply to open source as well as market share, but that's a strained reading of the above. Even if that is what he meant, he's a bad writer and still a dolt.
IDG: How about just the idea of having an open source browser, the Opera Web browser for instance.! Is that beneficial to users or developers?
Andreessen: How much (browser) market share does Opera have?
IDG: Let's pretend Opera has a 93 percent market share. Does it make a difference that its code is open source?
Andreessen: (Pause). I don't think so. For mass market adoption (open source) is clearly not compelling yet or (Opera) would have more adoption than it does. Other things are more important. Bundling with the (operating system) is clearly more important for adoption. When you're competing against something that's both being (promoted) by a monopoly and is free, good luck competing, have fun.
Looks pretty clear to me that the interviewer thinks Opera is open source. Or he can't use pronouns. Can't really tell if Andreesseen thinks so or his comments have been damaged by rewriting.
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I think you're assuming that socialism == left wing. Not so. Many (including the most infamous one) on what is now seen as the extreme right were socialists.
Despotism and socialism aren't mutually exclusive. Far from it. They appear to be mutual attractors. Mugabe began as a socialist, over the past decade became so corrupt that ideology was irrelevant (apparently he got so full of himself he no longer felt a need to justify the looting), as of last year vows to return to Marxist-Leninist roots. He's a socialist despot. All too common these last ~85 years.
...to the conservation bomb.
Seems Tom is a wee bit more efficient. That's your problem.
And we are dramatically understaffed compared to any other SCM company, when they figure out how small our engineering staff is they are amazed that we are able to do what we do.
So Tom is doubly amazing!
If any of you can show how to support the salary cost it actually takes to support a product like Arch/Subversion/BitKeeper/whatever with an open source business model, we'll happily do so. We would like it much better if we could. As far as we can tell, we can't and we can also see that Tom can't either. Prove us wrong. Show us how. We'd love be shown that we don't understand. Just make sure that you show up with $100,000/day rather than $40/day which is what Tom is raising.
You're making the assumption that a good SCM can't be developed for less than $10k (or is it $100k?) a day. Subversion, Arch and OpenCM are proving you wrong. Sometimes one or a few really good developers working for next to nothing are better than a companyful of developer seats.
Or if you're using a real OS :) check out this ticket. MAGNET, ed2k and FastTrack links within.
A directory is good though. Freshmeat or the like would be the obvious place home for it, just another field or so attached to each project's record.
I dig Ruby, but I don't see it as a compromise between Java and Perl. Not much like java at all really, unless all allegedly "OO" languages look alike to you. If I had to put Ruby "halfway" between two languages they'd be Perl and Smalltalk.
Plain and simple. Doesn't matter that it's money for tech rather than pork bellies. The rest of upstate NY has been in a tailspin for many years. Some of the highest taxes and unemployment rates render the cheap cost of living moot for most businesses and people. Rather than forking over cash to IBM and the like NY needs to cut taxes and bureaucracy, benefitting everyone in the state, not just those powerful enough to wrangle welfare and newcomers. I highly doubt Albany will become a vibrant tech area as Austin has (and Sematech is only a small part of the Austin phenomenon -- it is also the most liberal city for many hundreds of miles, making it a Schelling point for creatives in the South -- Albany OTOH has much tougher competition) and it's sad to see government always chasing last decade's one-trick pony. State and local government should not attempt to turn their region into a mecca for anything in particular. The best meccas become so organically. Who can tell what Albany, or other city will could become known for in decades hence? Nobody. By keeping taxes high and throwing money at a few favored companies politicians are only ensuring future stagnation.
OTOH if peek-a-booty does take off, somebody should do a Perl implementation of that protocol.
Perhaps because the crowds software hasn't been updated since 1998, the server in the default configuration refuses connections and there's no support or development mailing lists nor public cvs. Crowds is "only" 3301 lines of Perl, entirely feasible to reimplement if they disagreed with some crowds design decision, didn't want the Perl dependency, or simply wanted to write it themselves. If crowds had a significant user base they should've thought about implementing its protocol, but it doesn't seem to. Perhaps someone should fork crowds and put it on sourceforge (after pinging the original authors).
BTW, CR is not about starvation or malnourishment (the latter can occur while eating tons of calories of they're all junk). People on a calorie restricted diet try to practice "CRON" -- Calorie Restriction with Optimal Nutrition.
That may seem hard and some people do go to great lengths in pursuit of optimality, but it is really pretty simple: cut out junk (low nutrition) calories (especially sugar), eat (lots) more vegetables (without smothering added vegetables in high calorie oils and cheeses).
You're confusing the Atkins diet and calorie restriction referenced by the post you replied to. Now some people imagine that CR does involve suffering (it doesn't for me though).
You may be completely satisfied with Perl 5, though many others aren't. Perl 6 may keep some of them from migrating to Ruby or Python, as well as attracting new programmers. I did my first "web" programming in Perl (4 actually), though I'd never suggest Perl to a newbie now.
Great summary. MAGNET, the "universal p2p tag" you mention above has a web site.
Bitzi offers a solution similar to the one proposed in the parent's parent(? file ratings and other metadata associated with full file hashes). For partial/subrange verification, check out the proposed Tree Hash EXchange format.
When the poster announced this project a little over two years ago I asked why in the world spend time developing another configuration management system with many extant, more on the horizon, and so much work left on EROS. I certainly thought OpenCM (then DCMS) would never see the light of day. I was wrong, and glad about it. I'm really looking forward to disconnected operations.
You're right, Gmike is the short hairy barefoot version.
Discipiles of rms ... Gmike
... Mikezilla
... Kmike
... eMike
... iMike
... Pymike
... XMike
... .Mike
... Jmike
... OMikel
... '(name Mike)
Lizards
Konquerors
Marketroids
Marketroids 1998
Snakes
"Human readable"
Borg
Debugging everywhere
Object-functional
Jerks
That's the general idea of Bitzi.
Would this be useful (and not get itselt sued)?
I hope so!
Tree Hash EXchange describes a cool way of doing this. That's a big reason Bitzi uses the top of a tiger hash tree in its bitprint file identifier (a sha1 hash is the other part).
P2P is the way to go. Indentifying files by hash is the way to go. A colleague of mine has a proposal for generic browser/P2P client integration.
Good thing security is in quotes. Not a small mountain, nor has it been scaled. See the Saving the UNIX API thread from a few months ago on the cap-talk mailing list.
ASA and Emperor Linux also sell preloaded Linux laptops. I bought a used laptop I knew would be supported but I'd really like there to be Linux options for the latest models.
Looks pretty clear to me that the interviewer thinks Opera is open source. Or he can't use pronouns. Can't really tell if Andreesseen thinks so or his comments have been damaged by rewriting.