This. "A taste of his own medicine" would be a site devoted to pictures and gossip about Gawker staff.
The hypocrisy of this guy is just amazing. Pot calling kettle black.
A site devoted to publishing half-confirmed stories about famous or somewhat famous people and their private lives is outraged that Assange would dare to publish documents detailing government and corporate malfeasance?
That's just begging for a response of "Please conserve electrons", followed by a half-cocked explanation of the Law Conservation of Mass and Energy, and the limited electrons available for sending messages over the network.
It's about what other people are requesting you to do.
If they're asking you to do something (like hold a seminar, fix a network switch, whatever), then it's for your action.
If they're asking you something on which your input is vital for their report or whatever, it's for your reply.
If you're not immediately in the chain for that e-mail and you're just being given a carbon (courtesy) copy, it's for your information. Say, one of your minions decided to use RoR for their 20% project to graph flying pigs.
You can still give a reply if you want, it's just that they're not requesting it. On the other hand, if they specifically request a reply, and you don't answer, that seems sort of bad.
>I mean...I get a good bit of mail all day, every day...but I pretty much process it as it comes in, quick answer to things important...trash for things that are not important.
Interesting.
How do you deal with the situation where someone's asking you for a definitive answer on X (whether X is what's the best CMS for our company, does app Y support blah, etc.)? Once you reply in email, it's like you've given it in writing.
And answering "I don't know, I'll find out" for every email seems redundant--you could probably write a script to do that.
Yeah, sorry I wasn't clear on that: many (most?) email programs allow you to put all incoming mail from multiple accounts into a single inbox.
Some/many also allow different folders for different accounts. Or you might have set up a rule to put, e.g., Oracle Technology Network emails in one folder, MS Technet in another, server load average notifications in another.
But if you have such a rule set up, there's no one single place you can go to for "today's emails". Thunderbird's saved searches is the only solution I've found to that, and it's the reason I don't use Outlook or Evolution.
The problem with multiple e-mail addresses is that you have to check 5 different accounts under the root in your email client.
Solution: do a search for recent email (where date is less than 3 days or so from today), and save it as a "saved search". You can select what folders the search operates on (and thus which email accounts you're pulling in) under Properties for the saved search.
>I appreciate that Google is trying to idiot-proof email but it'd probably be a simpler task to train people using almost your exact phrasing: the subject line is a one line summary of the email and the body is the details section.
I was going to try to rebut you, but now that I think about it, it's not a bad idea. To my mind, the subject was supposed to be a noun or noun phrase.
I think I might try putting 1 line summaries in the subject for a week or so.
Actually, maybe e-mail clients can help by saying "Summary" instead of "Subject".
There's a misconception that people will just pick up typing by osmosis since they've been around computers since the age of 3.
But the standard qwerty keyboard is a confusing and weird thing for people who haven't been taught touch typing. They'll hunt and peck and probably even get up to 15-20 wpm, but in the back of their mind, they'll still be wondering why the keys are layed out in such random order.
To learn touch typing, you have to do drills. People normally don't do drills by themselves unless it's part of a class, team, or platoon.
The thing is, aren't most people so bad at speaking that, rather than listening to a long rambling speech and wondering what exactly the point was, it's just better that Powerpoint forces you to reduce your thoughts to a couple of bullet points per page?
No kidding. The same people who weaved through DOS command lines and WordPerfect reveal codes suddenly become flailing amoebas when presented with a GUI menu that organizes programs by category (Internet, Office, Graphics, Games) instead of by manufacturer.
It's so much easier to organize yourself with virtual desktop. Here's two ways:
A. Organize different projects that you may work on at different times of the day into virtual desktops (like client 1, client 2, etc. or office management files, accounting, etc.). Switch among them and have all your files immediately in front of you. You can have your desktop environment save your virtual desktop layout and reload upon login.
B. Organize a single project into different aspects: 1. SQL desktop -Graphical query browser -mysql client shell or equivalent -SQL command reference in Firefox
I might be mistaken, but I think you might have misunderstood what he was saying.
It's OK to say IIDSSM in regards to a paintjob you did, because IIDSSM acts as an apology or defense for your obvious bias.
It doesn't make any sense to say IIDSSM for any old statement.
It's true that some words are not strictly needed and they act to add color to a statement. Those are called idiomatic intensifiers (as in jump "up", cry "out").
But using IIDSSM where it's not an apology for bias is basically a failure to fully grasp the English language at a level Laura Engalls Wilder did by the 8th grade.
Yeah, for all intensive purposes, "broadband" means high-speed Internet. And bandwidth means total transfer for a given time period.
Which begs the question of why even have a term if your not going to use its' proper meaning.
Also the proper spelling of bandwidth is "bandwith", grammer natsi's.
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Are you using this with those of your correspondents who are on Outlook?
Who'd of known the grammer nazis were so right.
For all intensive purposes, their as dangerous as mispelled plural's.
This. "A taste of his own medicine" would be a site devoted to pictures and gossip about Gawker staff.
The hypocrisy of this guy is just amazing. Pot calling kettle black.
A site devoted to publishing half-confirmed stories about famous or somewhat famous people and their private lives is outraged that Assange would dare to publish documents detailing government and corporate malfeasance?
>Please conserve paper
That's just begging for a response of "Please conserve electrons", followed by a half-cocked explanation of the Law Conservation of Mass and Energy, and the limited electrons available for sending messages over the network.
The thing is, you can always do what you want.
It's about what other people are requesting you to do.
If they're asking you to do something (like hold a seminar, fix a network switch, whatever), then it's for your action.
If they're asking you something on which your input is vital for their report or whatever, it's for your reply.
If you're not immediately in the chain for that e-mail and you're just being given a carbon (courtesy) copy, it's for your information. Say, one of your minions decided to use RoR for their 20% project to graph flying pigs.
You can still give a reply if you want, it's just that they're not requesting it. On the other hand, if they specifically request a reply, and you don't answer, that seems sort of bad.
Yeah.
>>Most people are idiots about email.
>Like top-posting.
>I mean...I get a good bit of mail all day, every day...but I pretty much process it as it comes in, quick answer to things important...trash for things that are not important.
Interesting.
How do you deal with the situation where someone's asking you for a definitive answer on X (whether X is what's the best CMS for our company, does app Y support blah, etc.)? Once you reply in email, it's like you've given it in writing.
And answering "I don't know, I'll find out" for every email seems redundant--you could probably write a script to do that.
Yeah, sorry I wasn't clear on that: many (most?) email programs allow you to put all incoming mail from multiple accounts into a single inbox.
Some/many also allow different folders for different accounts. Or you might have set up a rule to put, e.g., Oracle Technology Network emails in one folder, MS Technet in another, server load average notifications in another.
But if you have such a rule set up, there's no one single place you can go to for "today's emails". Thunderbird's saved searches is the only solution I've found to that, and it's the reason I don't use Outlook or Evolution.
The problem with multiple e-mail addresses is that you have to check 5 different accounts under the root in your email client.
Solution: do a search for recent email (where date is less than 3 days or so from today), and save it as a "saved search". You can select what folders the search operates on (and thus which email accounts you're pulling in) under Properties for the saved search.
>. even when I change the subject line on response, he'll change it right back to "Hey Ben" when it's his turn.
Yeah, I do that trick, too.
You get an e-mail that says "server" or something, and in the reply you change to something meaningful so you can search on it later.
Sad to see it's not working for you.
>I appreciate that Google is trying to idiot-proof email but it'd probably be a simpler task to train people using almost your exact phrasing: the subject line is a one line summary of the email and the body is the details section.
I was going to try to rebut you, but now that I think about it, it's not a bad idea. To my mind, the subject was supposed to be a noun or noun phrase.
I think I might try putting 1 line summaries in the subject for a week or so.
Actually, maybe e-mail clients can help by saying "Summary" instead of "Subject".
"It's time-consuming to figure out what needs to be read and what needs a reply"
How about putting "For action", "For reply", or "For your information" in the subject lines of e-mails?
It would also be a good thing to put a 1-line summary of the email, followed up with a Details section.
Of course, this only works from the perspective of the sender, but if you do this when sending e-mails out to people, they might pick up on it.
Have you tried XP's compatibility mode options (right-click the Windows shortcut)?
Suckz, but sometimes it works.
>How about a lesser rule? "It is verboten to type a phrase in Google and report the number of hits as though it meant something."
I felt a disturbance in the force, as if a million college students were screaming "Arrgh!"
This.
There's a misconception that people will just pick up typing by osmosis since they've been around computers since the age of 3.
But the standard qwerty keyboard is a confusing and weird thing for people who haven't been taught touch typing. They'll hunt and peck and probably even get up to 15-20 wpm, but in the back of their mind, they'll still be wondering why the keys are layed out in such random order.
To learn touch typing, you have to do drills. People normally don't do drills by themselves unless it's part of a class, team, or platoon.
Yeah, it basically acts as an onscreen outline for the audience who might be wondering "where's this going?"
The thing is, aren't most people so bad at speaking that, rather than listening to a long rambling speech and wondering what exactly the point was, it's just better that Powerpoint forces you to reduce your thoughts to a couple of bullet points per page?
No kidding. The same people who weaved through DOS command lines and WordPerfect reveal codes suddenly become flailing amoebas when presented with a GUI menu that organizes programs by category (Internet, Office, Graphics, Games) instead of by manufacturer.
It's so much easier to organize yourself with virtual desktop. Here's two ways:
A. Organize different projects that you may work on at different times of the day into virtual desktops (like client 1, client 2, etc. or office management files, accounting, etc.). Switch among them and have all your files immediately in front of you. You can have your desktop environment save your virtual desktop layout and reload upon login.
B. Organize a single project into different aspects:
1. SQL desktop
-Graphical query browser
-mysql client shell or equivalent
-SQL command reference in Firefox
2. PHP desktop
-PHP editor/debugger
-terminal
-SVN browser
-PHP.net in Firefox
3. etc.
The funny thing is when ZDNet Australia asked random people about KDE4, people said they thought it was the next version of Windows.
So yeah, we're still keeping up hope 2011 is going to be the Year of the Linux Desktop.
I might be mistaken, but I think you might have misunderstood what he was saying.
It's OK to say IIDSSM in regards to a paintjob you did, because IIDSSM acts as an apology or defense for your obvious bias.
It doesn't make any sense to say IIDSSM for any old statement.
It's true that some words are not strictly needed and they act to add color to a statement. Those are called idiomatic intensifiers (as in jump "up", cry "out").
But using IIDSSM where it's not an apology for bias is basically a failure to fully grasp the English language at a level Laura Engalls Wilder did by the 8th grade.
Yeah, for all intensive purposes, "broadband" means high-speed Internet. And bandwidth means total transfer for a given time period.
Which begs the question of why even have a term if your not going to use its' proper meaning.
Also the proper spelling of bandwidth is "bandwith", grammer natsi's.
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See, you don't understand:
Just like "beg the question" is the new norm,
On Slashdot, "Off-topic" is the new norm.
On the other hand, we need a new "On-topic" rating to flag those pesky posters that actually read the article and make pertinent comments.
You're tool old to remember Xerox?
I'm too old to remember Mimeograph!
Just wondering what the big Z is going to do about:
MacBook
PowerBook
iBook
?