No OS is better than all the others in all categories, this would imply that their competitors were stupid.
Linux seems to be slower than NT as a high end web server. NT is slower than Digital Unix as a high end web server. Someone else may be faster than Digital Unix.
This test shows; 1. Linux is not perfect, and shortcomings will be more obvious as people try to fit it to all tasks. 2. ZD still is a biased magazine. I am sure there are other OSes with enough mind share on the net to merit addition to this roundup. Would it have been too much to include the BSD's or the other Unices. If they want a NT v Linux shoot out they should use more level ground.
In conclusion; Round to Micro$oft and their lackeys.
Rephrase the question. Would you be willing to help out people in need ?
On a more pratical noe,t why would 6 million chinese decide to come to a cold country with a strange language (actually two strange languages)? Include its proximity to the US (home of the xenophobes) and it seems less enticing. My guess is they will go to Hong Kong.
Border restrictions will never be removed as long as stupid greed selfish fscks (read Politicians) are in charge.
IF you are smarter than a computer program you will benefit from using a non WYSIWYG program. And everything cannot be done with such programs, also as technology evolves WYSIWYG programs become obsolete. Want to try CSS on the original FrontPage ?.
WYSIWYG is pointless as all web browsers display pages in different formats. So what you see is not what you get, also different users may configure their browsers in different ways. That is why the markup language is not supposed to do layouts also.
WYSIWYG is also pointless as some mutilate existing code, while others are just inefficient. Most have a fixed way of doing things that is at times idiotic. In short they are infernal contraptions.
Now html is about content over style. I do not visit Slashdot every night because of its style. In fact some of the originators were against images as it would distract people from reading.
Emacs is good, but XEmacs is better. It even checks your html for errors. Also worthy are gnotepad+ and Gedit.
However the best html editor and the best M$ widows program is (drum roll please) Arachnophilia. The closes Linux has to this is galway and August and neither work properly yet
as I am not a member of the press I cannot confirm or deny your accusation. However, it is the duty of the press to check facts before they report them. If someone is reporting on Linux or GNOME and are ignorant of KDE's existence they should reconsider their field of endeavour.
Maybe the confusion with NT being enterprise ready has something to do with certain companies marketing NT servers as enterprise servers. And other companies marketing NT tools as enterprise tools.
When the name is being used with such reckless abandonment it is only natural that the press pick it up. I do not think anyone seriously expects NT to be used in mission critical (another word used carelessly) situations, make that in important situations. When reliability is needed everyone looks elsewhere.
Having conceded the misuse of the word, I feel GNU/Linux is more 'enterprise' ready than NT.
How did you come to the conclusion that American society is tolerant ? Much less more so than all others.
Teen angst or not most other cultures make an effort to be accomodating to all aspects of society. American society is one of the few not based on being polite to others, the total lack of respect for others exhibited by Americans is further evidence of this. Also most other cultures do not have armed teenagers, we are smarter than that. However, many American habits are being propagated to other countries.
You seem to miss some points. 1. The quality of free television is poor 2. Television ads are expensive because they have a large audience.
Software ads will be more intrusive, as the screen is smaller and you actually pay attention. Of course there is a possibility of seemless ads; e.g. background images, billboards in video games.
There is also the problem of whose ads will show, will it be X, WindowMaker or GNOME.
No one is supporting the acts of those two students, we are complaining about the resulting backlash. The one that points to the internet and violent games as the cause of this crime. And in so doing unfairly targets the segment of society that most of us come from.
The masses have chosen to point to external and new causes instead of fixing the underlying problem ergo. a skewed value system. Which incidentally is spread throughout the western society. This system seeks to punish those that choose not to follow the crowd, and rewards those that follow blindly.
The causes pointed to; black clothes, antisocial behaviour etc. are in some cases shared by a lot of us and we are the most non violent group in society. The same outcasts, are generally those that usher the changes that shape our future.
And with respect to recent shootings. 1. This wanton slaughter is as American as apple pie - I wonder why ? 2. Ignoring a problem does not cause it to go away, to children chose to end their lives to make a point. Why ?
I hope my comment is enlightening, if not go fuck yourself.
Their alleged policy of using Windows as a 'tool' to open new markets and bludgeon competition should be enough to raise user's ire.
However most users are not aware of that, they are aware of the fact that Windows crashes a lot and that Office cost U$1000. So you cannot fault anyone for choosing to notice the more obvious flaw. I am sure many users called N$cape sore losers, without noting the fate of DR DOS and GEM.
There was a BYTE article a while back, that spoke of Java someday approaching to speed of compiled C++. And there is a native compiler (TowerJ I thinkI that is fast. But VB is still faster than Java.
I think the javalobby had the link to the speed tests, but it was not in comparison with VB or any other language.
It misght not be too bad an idea to pose this question to them.
I disagree, the concern about RedHat is not irrational. RedHat has in recent times courted IBM, Intel and other companies with less than stellar pasts. This does not refer to their finances, but rather policy and products aka MCA.
It stands to reason that these companies see a way to make money through Linux, the only question is how. It is possible that these companies can in the future influence RedHat in ways that may not be of benefit to the Linux 'community'. After all it is the function of corporations to look out for themselves.
But while some degree of wariness can be justified RedHat has done no wrong, in my opinion. And some of the vitriol is due to the fact that it has grown by courting newcomers. This annoys older users, especially those that started with Slackware.
Now Americans have a monopoly on honesty ?. Based on your experiences with a few foreign programmers you arrive at that conclusion. I note you did not smear the one or two countries you were in contact with, but rather all foreigners.
Based on this comment I can conclude that you are a f_cking moron, as only a moron would arrive at such a hasty generalization. Based on my exposure to Americans I can conclude they are arrogant f_cks, convinced of their own superiority. But I have realised that everyone is different, and while a system may be broken the people usually are not.
But of course I do not believe in making or spouting stupid generalisations.
If by fraudulent practices you mean lying to the public, this would be nothing compared to the add that said Microsoft Windows makes computing fast and reliable.
No most of us if we were in the bill's position would do the same. Can you imagine the nightmares he must have thinking he may lose his hold on computing. I personally would be unable to relinquish such power without a fight. So his actions are not evil, just desperate.
As one who despised Windows 3 I am offended by your inference that I was unwilling to relearn/learn.
I do not use Caldera, so I am less concerned with the fact that they changed their dist than the fact that it is heralded as an achievement. I am sorry but I watched as ease of use infected WINDOS, to the point of plug and play and the return of hieroglyphics.
As long as the command line exists, not in the NT format, I am a happy camper. And I also have a problem with the presumption that most people are too lazy/stupid to use the command line.
The command line is superior because of its power and flexibility. Take this simple example, you wish to change the name of all the files in a directory - adding a prefix.
DOS ren *.* dit*.* Windows - do it individually
Now which is easier, be honest or punish with your RSI. And that is DOS, imagine what you can do with the tools Linux/UNIX has.
It seems everyone equates education with employment,as if that was the only point to it. University and A-Levels provided me with an opportunity to grow up. As I find most high school graduates are misguided individuals, easily affected by trivialities.
University also provides a more rounded approach to study, and allows you to explore all facets of your chosen subject. It is less about 1's and 0's, and more about concepts. As most of the details you learn will change (see COBOL) those who understand the concepts will be at an advantage.
Wealth does not equal success, and those that use it as a yardstick miss the point of life.
2. MP3s benefit the consumer, less crap (of course some of us like crap) and the artist, more money for less work. The record companies are the only ones who will suffer, the reason they exist is because they control distribution. So like parasites they benefit off the work of others.
3. Musicians become popular, then they release CDs. MP3s will serve to eliminate the genre of mainstream, aka no more spice girls - sorry.
Having one dominant product a.k.a. a monopoly is bad, regardless of who owns the product. It stifles innovation etc. (see Microsoft). If Linux becomes the only Unix, the variance in the Unix community will disappear and it will be Windows of a different brand. Same old cookie cutter applications.
Also the existence of viable competitors reduce the chance of complacency and benefit all involved. So as much as you may abhor prop software, you should herald this development as it should benefit us all. As will HURD.
OTOH, these companies are as united as OPEC, the question is how long before the first knife.
I must admit I am confused, I fail to see how a stripped down closed NT box can compete with Linux. Aside from the Cobalt Qube, ease of use and simplicity are not Linux strong points. So what sense would it make to make a 'competitor' with these features. Plus given M$ problems with shipping and maintaining their products, can they handle another one.
They fail to address Linux's strengths; stability, features, cost etc. So unless they are going after the Qube, I hear BOB.
RedHat usurped Slackware because users (albeit newcomers) chose RedHat over Slackware despite the fact that most documentation focuses on Slackware. This was because RH is easier to use than Slackware, a similar shift can happen away from RedHat especially over this type a shit.
Also it makes little sense to try an corner the Linux market, most of whom compile their own programs from source. How long will they wait after any Machiavellian moves by Mr. Young, or anyone else, before they burn RH in effigy.
LSB is supposed to make developing easier, if it does so they will be more software for Linux. This would remove M$' last leg. LSB can lead to a increase in the size of the Linux market and 10% of what M$ now has is more than 100% of the current Linux market. Desktop wise atleast, and when I say desktop I mean desktop only.
In which case it is in RH (and all other distros) to grow the pie, thus given everyone more. That way the only people hurting are...
Nothing was said that would require such harsh reprisals. Having to install or reinstall Windows is a truly distasteful task. Which makes no sense since the OS is so f_cked up you have to reinstall on a regular basis - must be the global tide of masochist (Byte).
And the removal of NextLevel is automatic, it is a real piece of shit. Too bad this is the first screen you see when you start RH.
Isn't Linux just the kernel ? Doesn't an actual Linux box contain a lot of other programs. How many of these were created by Linus ? and how many were created by GNU ? Who is continually trying to write new software to address shortcomings in GNU/Linux ?
RMS may have an abrasive approach, but one fact is quite undeniable GNU can survive without Linux.
I fail to see the big deal with given GNU their due, plus it makes defining programs much easier - no more the kernel or the operating system crap
I take it you have never had the 'pleasure' of reading any other ZD pubications. One of their writers claimed that "Windows NT is the internet's most popular operating system" He then defended his statement when confronted by a letter writer. I have read PC Magazine since the 80's and once they covered Linux, which is not surprising. At least not as much as the way they treated netware during its reign or the way they continue to treat Unix. They seem to take pleasure in being M$ attack dogs, denigrating all competing technologies and alienating many readers. If the US had as strict ad laws as the UK PC Mag's slogan "The independent guide to Personal Computing" would be banned, as would M$ claim that Windows is fast and stable.
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No OS is better than all the others in all categories, this would imply that their competitors were stupid.
Linux seems to be slower than NT as a high end web server. NT is slower than Digital Unix as a high end web server. Someone else may be faster than Digital Unix.
This test shows;
1. Linux is not perfect, and shortcomings will be more obvious as people try to fit it to all tasks.
2. ZD still is a biased magazine. I am sure there are other OSes with enough mind share on the net to merit addition to this roundup. Would it have been too much to include the BSD's or the other Unices. If they want a NT v Linux shoot out they should use more level ground.
In conclusion; Round to Micro$oft and their lackeys.
Rephrase the question. Would you be willing to help out people in need ?
On a more pratical noe,t why would 6 million chinese decide to come to a cold country with a strange language (actually two strange languages)? Include its proximity to the US (home of the xenophobes) and it seems less enticing. My guess is they will go to Hong Kong.
Border restrictions will never be removed as long as stupid greed selfish fscks (read Politicians) are in charge.
IF you are smarter than a computer program you will benefit from using a non WYSIWYG program.
And everything cannot be done with such programs, also as technology evolves WYSIWYG programs become obsolete. Want to try CSS on the original FrontPage ?.
WYSIWYG is pointless as all web browsers display pages in different formats. So what you see is not what you get, also different users may configure their browsers in different ways. That is why the markup language is not supposed to do layouts also.
WYSIWYG is also pointless as some mutilate existing code, while others are just inefficient. Most have a fixed way of doing things that is at times idiotic. In short they are infernal contraptions.
Now html is about content over style. I do not visit Slashdot every night because of its style. In fact some of the originators were against images as it would distract people from reading.
Emacs is good, but XEmacs is better. It even checks your html for errors. Also worthy are gnotepad+ and Gedit.
However the best html editor and the best M$ widows program is (drum roll please) Arachnophilia. The closes Linux has to this is galway and August and neither work properly yet
as I am not a member of the press I cannot confirm or deny your accusation. However, it is the duty of the press to check facts before they report them. If someone is reporting on Linux or GNOME and are ignorant of KDE's existence they should reconsider their field of endeavour.
Maybe the confusion with NT being enterprise ready has something to do with certain companies marketing NT servers as enterprise servers. And other companies marketing NT tools as enterprise tools.
When the name is being used with such reckless abandonment it is only natural that the press pick it up. I do not think anyone seriously expects NT to be used in mission critical (another word used carelessly) situations, make that in important situations. When reliability is needed everyone looks elsewhere.
Having conceded the misuse of the word, I feel GNU/Linux is more 'enterprise' ready than NT.
How did you come to the conclusion that American society is tolerant ? Much less more so than all others.
Teen angst or not most other cultures make an effort to be accomodating to all aspects of society. American society is one of the few not based on being polite to others, the total lack of respect for others exhibited by Americans is further evidence of this. Also most other cultures do not have armed teenagers, we are smarter than that. However, many American habits are being propagated to other countries.
You seem to miss some points.
1. The quality of free television is poor
2. Television ads are expensive because they have a large audience.
Software ads will be more intrusive, as the screen is smaller and you actually pay attention. Of course there is a possibility of seemless ads; e.g. background images, billboards in video games.
There is also the problem of whose ads will show, will it be X, WindowMaker or GNOME.
No one is supporting the acts of those two students, we are complaining about the resulting backlash. The one that points to the internet and violent games as the cause of this crime. And in so doing unfairly targets the segment of society that most of us come from.
The masses have chosen to point to external and new causes instead of fixing the underlying problem ergo. a skewed value system. Which incidentally is spread throughout the western society. This system seeks to punish those that choose not to follow the crowd, and rewards those that follow blindly.
The causes pointed to; black clothes, antisocial behaviour etc. are in some cases shared by a lot of us and we are the most non violent group in society. The same outcasts, are generally those that usher the changes that shape our future.
And with respect to recent shootings.
1. This wanton slaughter is as American as apple pie - I wonder why ?
2. Ignoring a problem does not cause it to go away, to children chose to end their lives to make a point. Why ?
I hope my comment is enlightening, if not go fuck yourself.
Good point about the reason for hating M$.
Their alleged policy of using Windows as a 'tool' to open new markets and bludgeon competition should be enough to raise user's ire.
However most users are not aware of that, they are aware of the fact that Windows crashes a lot and that Office cost U$1000. So you cannot fault anyone for choosing to notice the more obvious flaw. I am sure many users called N$cape sore losers, without noting the fate of DR DOS and GEM.
There was a BYTE article a while back, that spoke of Java someday approaching to speed of compiled C++. And there is a native compiler (TowerJ I thinkI that is fast. But VB is still faster than Java.
I think the javalobby had the link to the speed tests, but it was not in comparison with VB or any other language.
It misght not be too bad an idea to pose this question to them.
I disagree, the concern about RedHat is not irrational. RedHat has in recent times courted IBM, Intel and other companies with less than stellar pasts. This does not refer to their finances, but rather policy and products aka MCA.
It stands to reason that these companies see a way to make money through Linux, the only question is how. It is possible that these companies can in the future influence RedHat in ways that may not be of benefit to the Linux 'community'. After all it is the function of corporations to look out for themselves.
But while some degree of wariness can be justified RedHat has done no wrong, in my opinion. And some of the vitriol is due to the fact that it has grown by courting newcomers. This annoys older users, especially those that started with Slackware.
Now Americans have a monopoly on honesty ?. Based on your experiences with a few foreign programmers you arrive at that conclusion. I note you did not smear the one or two countries you were in contact with, but rather all foreigners.
Based on this comment I can conclude that you are a f_cking moron, as only a moron would arrive at such a hasty generalization. Based on my exposure to Americans I can conclude they are arrogant f_cks, convinced of their own superiority. But I have realised that everyone is different, and while a system may be broken the people usually are not.
But of course I do not believe in making or spouting stupid generalisations.
If by fraudulent practices you mean lying to the public, this would be nothing compared to the add that said Microsoft Windows makes computing fast and reliable.
No most of us if we were in the bill's position would do the same. Can you imagine the nightmares he must have thinking he may lose his hold on computing. I personally would be unable to relinquish such power without a fight. So his actions are not evil, just desperate.
As one who despised Windows 3 I am offended by your inference that I was unwilling to relearn/learn.
I do not use Caldera, so I am less concerned with the fact that they changed their dist than the fact that it is heralded as an achievement. I am sorry but I watched as ease of use infected WINDOS, to the point of plug and play and the return of hieroglyphics.
As long as the command line exists, not in the NT format, I am a happy camper. And I also have a problem with the presumption that most people are too lazy/stupid to use the command line.
The command line is superior because of its power and flexibility. Take this simple example, you wish to change the name of all the files in a directory - adding a prefix.
DOS ren *.* dit*.*
Windows - do it individually
Now which is easier, be honest or punish with your RSI.
And that is DOS, imagine what you can do with the tools Linux/UNIX has.
It seems everyone equates education with employment,as if that was the only point to it. University and A-Levels provided me with an opportunity to grow up. As I find most high school graduates are misguided individuals, easily affected by trivialities.
University also provides a more rounded approach to study, and allows you to explore all facets of your chosen subject. It is less about 1's and 0's, and more about concepts. As most of the details you learn will change (see COBOL) those who understand the concepts will be at an advantage.
Wealth does not equal success, and those that use it as a yardstick miss the point of life.
1. PE rules, has and always will.
2. MP3s benefit the consumer, less crap (of course some of us like crap) and the artist, more money for less work. The record companies are the only ones who will suffer, the reason they exist is because they control distribution. So like parasites they benefit off the work of others.
3. Musicians become popular, then they release CDs. MP3s will serve to eliminate the genre of mainstream, aka no more spice girls - sorry.
No record labels means no need to compromise.
Having one dominant product a.k.a. a monopoly is bad, regardless of who owns the product. It stifles innovation etc. (see Microsoft). If Linux becomes the only Unix, the variance in the Unix community will disappear and it will be Windows of a different brand. Same old cookie cutter applications.
Also the existence of viable competitors reduce the chance of complacency and benefit all involved. So as much as you may abhor prop software, you should herald this development as it should benefit us all. As will HURD.
OTOH, these companies are as united as OPEC, the question is how long before the first knife.
I must admit I am confused, I fail to see how a stripped down closed NT box can compete with Linux. Aside from the Cobalt Qube, ease of use and simplicity are not Linux strong points. So what sense would it make to make a 'competitor' with these features. Plus given M$ problems with shipping and maintaining their products, can they handle another one.
They fail to address Linux's strengths; stability, features, cost etc. So unless they are going after the Qube, I hear BOB.
..but that does not mean it is there.
RedHat usurped Slackware because users (albeit newcomers) chose RedHat over Slackware despite the fact that most documentation focuses on Slackware. This was because RH is easier to use than Slackware, a similar shift can happen away from RedHat especially over this type a shit.
Also it makes little sense to try an corner the Linux market, most of whom compile their own programs from source. How long will they wait after any Machiavellian moves by Mr. Young, or anyone else, before they burn RH in effigy.
LSB is supposed to make developing easier, if it does so they will be more software for Linux. This would remove M$' last leg. LSB can lead to a increase in the size of the Linux market and 10% of what M$ now has is more than 100% of the current Linux market. Desktop wise atleast, and when I say desktop I mean desktop only.
In which case it is in RH (and all other distros) to grow the pie, thus given everyone more. That way the only people hurting are...
Nothing was said that would require such harsh reprisals. Having to install or reinstall Windows is a truly distasteful task. Which makes no sense since the OS is so f_cked up you have to reinstall on a regular basis - must be the global tide of masochist (Byte).
And the removal of NextLevel is automatic, it is a real piece of shit. Too bad this is the first screen you see when you start RH.
Isn't Linux just the kernel ? Doesn't an actual Linux box contain a lot of other programs. How many of these were created by Linus ? and how many were created by GNU ? Who is continually trying to write new software to address shortcomings in GNU/Linux ?
RMS may have an abrasive approach, but one fact is quite undeniable GNU can survive without Linux.
I fail to see the big deal with given GNU their due, plus it makes defining programs much easier - no more the kernel or the operating system crap
I take it you have never had the 'pleasure' of reading any other ZD pubications. One of their writers claimed that "Windows NT is the internet's most popular operating system" He then defended his statement when confronted by a letter writer.
I have read PC Magazine since the 80's and once they covered Linux, which is not surprising. At least not as much as the way they treated netware during its reign or the way they continue to treat Unix. They seem to take pleasure in being M$ attack dogs, denigrating all competing technologies and alienating many readers.
If the US had as strict ad laws as the UK PC Mag's slogan "The independent guide to Personal Computing" would be banned, as would M$ claim that Windows is fast and stable.
You are correct ZD has finally seen the light, who knows maybe they will start writing for those of us who do not use widows.
Then again, why would we read ZD mags?.