Quite a few people believe it is our duty to support our President, even if he's a lying, cheating, murdering, egg-sucking, goose-fucking prick (and he is, too).
Care to take a guess as to how many of those people had the same protective attitude towards Clinton as they do to Bush? These people check for party affiliation before they decide if their outrage is for or against the person/issue in question. These people change positions so fast it would snap the spine of a normal man, and they had the nerve to attack Kerry for being a flip flopper.
The best example of this is right here on Slashdot, in the form of Pudge's journal. You can usually go there any day of the week, calling non-conservatives liars left and right, but if a Republican is involved, he "doesn't see what the big deal is". The best part is when he flip-flips between one entry and the next. Like when he complained about how homosexuals were 'shoving gay marriage down everyone's throats', and then in his next entry he complains about his states requirements for homeschooling. So state interference in the right to marry is fine, but state interference is bad when it sets standards for homeschooling? You dumb fat fuck, Pudge.
Or when he called Barbra Boxer a liar for saying that the Congressional vote to authorize force in Iraq was about WMD, "period", saying that the other part of the reason was Saddam's violations of U.N. resolutions. So lets say that half the reason for war was WMD's, and the other half was U.N. resolutions. However, most of those dealt with WMD's as well, making at least 95% of the reason to go to war...WMD's. This still wasn't enough to justify the use of the word "period" by Boxer, so she was still a liar. However, in his next entry, he talked about how Social Security running out of money really, really was a "crisis", despite that it wouldn't have problems for another 38 years, and even then could provide 75% benefits. So 95% doesn't justify "period", but something that's 38 years away and will still provide 3/4 benefits is a crisis?
It would appear that particular aspect of the document is missing.
WTF is "the right of people to be secure in their persons, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures" then? It might not mean you are protected from snooping by your neighbor or by a corporate entity, but it damn sure is a right to privacy from government intrusion.
Yeah, that's why real martial arts have all gotten rid of weight classes. Cause, you know, technique is all that matters. Oh wait, even the UFC has weight classes. Dumbass.
Sure they do. However, I remember a UFC many years ago made up of David vs Goliath matches...and the Davids cleaned house.
So we should be giving our own personal money to power companies so they'll finally invest in cleaner emissions? Is that how this "carbon credits" plan works? If that's the case, thanks but no thanks. I'll buy my hybrid vehicle, and the power companies can spend their own damn money rather than expecting someone else to foot the bill.
Yup. My Dad's a fed, and at the place he works at, the average age is probably 65. For most of the employees in his position, this is probably the first job they've had where they've needed to use a computer, or even the first time they've ever used one. Their department's password policy is a typical 10 charachter minimum, 2 capital letters with 2 symbols, and they have to be changed once a month. Sooo...EVERYONE writes their passwords on Post It notes, which they leave at their desks.
If you stay on the ball you might be able to get a retroactive price reduction on your Macbook. Right now, getting a 15" with a 2.16 ghz processor and a 120 gig hard drive actually COSTS MORE than the 17" that has those featuers standard, along with a much better dvd drive, the 17" screen and FW 800. So I imagine that a price cut must be forthcomming on the 15's so they aren't the runt of the litter.
No, he wasn't. No other elected official has come close to what Gore has done for the Internet - even Newt Gengrich has said so, and you should know how much love Gengrich has for anything having to do with the Clintons or Gores.
the thing pre-existed his service in Congress or the Senate.
Wrong. All an internet is, is a group of interconnected networks. TheInternet, with it's millions of hosts and petabytes of data, is a work in progress. Gore was instrumental in opening up what was DARPAnet for public and commercial use. And his actions as a government official are exactly what he was talking about.
Even in the narrow legislative sense, it was egregious self-aggrandizement by Gore.
Wrong. It was an entirely appropriate comment to make. I'm curious as to why people continue to insist that Gore be held to a rehtorical standard that no human being before or since has been expected to achieve - especially by the ones making said demands. For example, during the 2000 debates Bush took credit for Texas being the first state to allow patients to sue their HMO's. Slight problem: he actually vetoed that legislation. So where was the media's contempt on that, the mother of all flip-flops?
Yeah, remember what I said. "I voted for a third party". I'm sorry, but Kerry rubbed me the wrong way. 'Everything I object to about Bush, Kerry's worse'. I automatically assume that politicians lie, but the question is how much?
Okay, name me some of Kerry's flaws that aren't shared by Bush to a greater degree.
I think that it's they know how to campaign for democrat votes, but not for moderate/republican votes. Thus, they say and take positions that tend to turn off the moderates.
Except that the Democratic party today is a very conservative party. The Dems today are more conservative than the GOP was 30 years ago, before the God-gun nut-uber capitalist jihad was assembled. Which should tell you something about where the GOP is these days. So not only do the Dems stances match up much better with moderates, they also match up better with most Republican voters as well. See What's the matter with Kansas for examples.
And before you think that I'm a tool of the republican party, I'll give a quick rundown on my positions: 1: Anti-gun control
Ah yes. This reminds me of a single issue voter I knew of around the time of the election, who delcared he would not vote for Kerry because he would support gun control. I pointed out that Bush also supported gun control, when he said he would resign the assualt weapons ban. He went ahead and voted for Bush anyway, as opposed to the Libertarian candidate, for example. It's awsome when principles turn out to be an excuse.
Two reasons: 1) the GOP lied, and the biased conservative media (which hated Gore's guts) were only too happy to spread the lie. 2) Gore didn't challenge it, anymore than he did the rest of the charachter assasination job done on him.
And to anyone who inists otherwise, consider the fact that during the presidential debates, Bush took credit for Texas being the first state to allow patients to sue their HMO's, when in fact he vetoed that legislation as govenor. This was completely ignored by the media, who were far too busy inventing stories about Gore to take notice.
The context does not exist where Gore's statement is not, at least, an enormous misstatement.
Bullshit. The creation of the Internet is an ongoing process, which has taken a good deal of involvement by the government. No other elected or appointed government offical has done more to spur that development than Al Gore. And that's the context to which he even explicitly stated: his actions in Congress. Go back and read your own quote. His claim was entirely appropriate to make. Deal with it.
What is most pathetic about all this is that Bush made far more brazen (and false) claims during the same election, yet he was given a free pass at the time, as opposed to those idiots who still insist, 6 years later, that Gore was a serial liar or embelisher despite large amounts of debunking. One choice example: in one of the debates he took credit for Texas being the first state to allow patients to sue their HMO's, when in fact he vetoed that legislation and then let it pass his desk without a signature when it passed again with veto proof margins.
Good points. The man deserves to be fired, given some community service, and be referred to treatment. But I think any jail term for virtual obsence material is going to far, much less a sentance of 20 years.
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Canada's current problem is that it lacks a critical mass of stupid people. 13 million dumb Americans is a group to be reckoned with, but 1.3 million dumb Canadians is just Manitoba.
Dammit! I'm in North Dakota, and we have plenty of rednecks here, too. South Dakota is full of them as well, along with Montana and rural Minnesota. Now you're telling me I can't even escape to the north?
Florida's felon list. Black districts in Ohio having a third the number of machines needed, resulting in some people having to stand in line for many hours to vote. What are YOU smoking?
Oh, Kerry certianally was inept, but not for any of the reasons you suggest.
Kerry's career as a Senator gave very good indicators as to his politics. You only had to look at his voting record to see that it didn't match what was coming out of his mouth. He'd even say one thing before a crowd, then another two days later to another.
That was the GOP spin, but GOP spin and reality seldom have anything to do with eachother. Kerry's instant responce to any charges of "flip flopping" should have been "yeah, well at least I didn't take credit for legislation I vetoed." You see, during one of the 2000 debates, Bush took credit for Texas being the first state to allow states to sue their HMO's, when in fact he vetoed the bill. The media was far too obsessed with inventing Gore "fibs" at the time to take notice, however.
The problem the Dems have is that they can run very tough races against other Dems. But against a Republican, they suddenly turn into spinless pussies for no apprant reason. It's as if all the Democrats campaign managers and consultants were on the GOP payroll.
Many other people, including print journalists, disagree with you and Apple on this matter.
And those people would be wrong. Aside from reporting, a professional code of ethics is part and parcel of journalism. No code of ethics, no journalism. And the same bloggers that try to lay claim to the rights and presige of journalists are also the very same ones who are vehemently opposed to being held to any standard whatsoever. They want the rights without the responsibility.
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Antonin Scalia was appointed by Reagan. He's the only sane justice on the SCotUS.
Either that was sarcasm or you mispelled "worst of the worst" as "the only sane justice".
Wether the Government at the time happens to be Demopublican or Republicrat doesn't make any difference because they're both as bad.
Nader? Is that you? Sorry, but the last 6 years have proved that claim of yours to be monumentally stupid.
Quite a few people believe it is our duty to support our President, even if he's a lying, cheating, murdering, egg-sucking, goose-fucking prick (and he is, too).
Care to take a guess as to how many of those people had the same protective attitude towards Clinton as they do to Bush? These people check for party affiliation before they decide if their outrage is for or against the person/issue in question. These people change positions so fast it would snap the spine of a normal man, and they had the nerve to attack Kerry for being a flip flopper.
The best example of this is right here on Slashdot, in the form of Pudge's journal. You can usually go there any day of the week, calling non-conservatives liars left and right, but if a Republican is involved, he "doesn't see what the big deal is". The best part is when he flip-flips between one entry and the next. Like when he complained about how homosexuals were 'shoving gay marriage down everyone's throats', and then in his next entry he complains about his states requirements for homeschooling. So state interference in the right to marry is fine, but state interference is bad when it sets standards for homeschooling? You dumb fat fuck, Pudge.
Or when he called Barbra Boxer a liar for saying that the Congressional vote to authorize force in Iraq was about WMD, "period", saying that the other part of the reason was Saddam's violations of U.N. resolutions. So lets say that half the reason for war was WMD's, and the other half was U.N. resolutions. However, most of those dealt with WMD's as well, making at least 95% of the reason to go to war...WMD's. This still wasn't enough to justify the use of the word "period" by Boxer, so she was still a liar. However, in his next entry, he talked about how Social Security running out of money really, really was a "crisis", despite that it wouldn't have problems for another 38 years, and even then could provide 75% benefits. So 95% doesn't justify "period", but something that's 38 years away and will still provide 3/4 benefits is a crisis?
Pudge, leading the way in Republican hypocracy.
Yeah, but... what was our alternative?
Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark, Kucinich, plus an average of 200 or so third party candidates.
It would appear that particular aspect of the document is missing.
WTF is "the right of people to be secure in their persons, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures" then? It might not mean you are protected from snooping by your neighbor or by a corporate entity, but it damn sure is a right to privacy from government intrusion.
What's your job where it's safe to watch 15 minute videos?
Yeah, that's why real martial arts have all gotten rid of weight classes. Cause, you know, technique is all that matters. Oh wait, even the UFC has weight classes. Dumbass.
Sure they do. However, I remember a UFC many years ago made up of David vs Goliath matches...and the Davids cleaned house.
I did a search for "Kazushi Sakuraba" on that site and it only turned up one clip, and it wasn't with any of the Gracies.
So long as the external add-on costs significantly less than $40 (say, $25)
No way. This is a console accessory, so they have to have their 1000% profit margin (see memory cards).
So we should be giving our own personal money to power companies so they'll finally invest in cleaner emissions? Is that how this "carbon credits" plan works? If that's the case, thanks but no thanks. I'll buy my hybrid vehicle, and the power companies can spend their own damn money rather than expecting someone else to foot the bill.
Yup. My Dad's a fed, and at the place he works at, the average age is probably 65. For most of the employees in his position, this is probably the first job they've had where they've needed to use a computer, or even the first time they've ever used one. Their department's password policy is a typical 10 charachter minimum, 2 capital letters with 2 symbols, and they have to be changed once a month. Sooo...EVERYONE writes their passwords on Post It notes, which they leave at their desks.
If you stay on the ball you might be able to get a retroactive price reduction on your Macbook. Right now, getting a 15" with a 2.16 ghz processor and a 120 gig hard drive actually COSTS MORE than the 17" that has those featuers standard, along with a much better dvd drive, the 17" screen and FW 800. So I imagine that a price cut must be forthcomming on the 15's so they aren't the runt of the litter.
I did watch the video, and it's Tom Delay chatting with Chris Matthews(?) about nothing in particular. WTF is your point?
he was only one of several hundred co-sponsors
No, he wasn't. No other elected official has come close to what Gore has done for the Internet - even Newt Gengrich has said so, and you should know how much love Gengrich has for anything having to do with the Clintons or Gores.
the thing pre-existed his service in Congress or the Senate.
Wrong. All an internet is, is a group of interconnected networks. The Internet, with it's millions of hosts and petabytes of data, is a work in progress. Gore was instrumental in opening up what was DARPAnet for public and commercial use. And his actions as a government official are exactly what he was talking about.
Even in the narrow legislative sense, it was egregious self-aggrandizement by Gore.
Wrong. It was an entirely appropriate comment to make. I'm curious as to why people continue to insist that Gore be held to a rehtorical standard that no human being before or since has been expected to achieve - especially by the ones making said demands. For example, during the 2000 debates Bush took credit for Texas being the first state to allow patients to sue their HMO's. Slight problem: he actually vetoed that legislation. So where was the media's contempt on that, the mother of all flip-flops?
Bush is trying to be al gore (with his I invented the internet quotes)
Nah, he's just being misquoted, or diliberatly taken out of context. Just like Al Gore.
Yeah, remember what I said. "I voted for a third party". I'm sorry, but Kerry rubbed me the wrong way. 'Everything I object to about Bush, Kerry's worse'. I automatically assume that politicians lie, but the question is how much?
Okay, name me some of Kerry's flaws that aren't shared by Bush to a greater degree.
I think that it's they know how to campaign for democrat votes, but not for moderate/republican votes. Thus, they say and take positions that tend to turn off the moderates.
Except that the Democratic party today is a very conservative party. The Dems today are more conservative than the GOP was 30 years ago, before the God-gun nut-uber capitalist jihad was assembled. Which should tell you something about where the GOP is these days. So not only do the Dems stances match up much better with moderates, they also match up better with most Republican voters as well. See What's the matter with Kansas for examples.
And before you think that I'm a tool of the republican party, I'll give a quick rundown on my positions:
1: Anti-gun control
Ah yes. This reminds me of a single issue voter I knew of around the time of the election, who delcared he would not vote for Kerry because he would support gun control. I pointed out that Bush also supported gun control, when he said he would resign the assualt weapons ban. He went ahead and voted for Bush anyway, as opposed to the Libertarian candidate, for example. It's awsome when principles turn out to be an excuse.
Two reasons: 1) the GOP lied, and the biased conservative media (which hated Gore's guts) were only too happy to spread the lie. 2) Gore didn't challenge it, anymore than he did the rest of the charachter assasination job done on him.
And to anyone who inists otherwise, consider the fact that during the presidential debates, Bush took credit for Texas being the first state to allow patients to sue their HMO's, when in fact he vetoed that legislation as govenor. This was completely ignored by the media, who were far too busy inventing stories about Gore to take notice.
The context does not exist where Gore's statement is not, at least, an enormous misstatement.
Bullshit. The creation of the Internet is an ongoing process, which has taken a good deal of involvement by the government. No other elected or appointed government offical has done more to spur that development than Al Gore. And that's the context to which he even explicitly stated: his actions in Congress. Go back and read your own quote. His claim was entirely appropriate to make. Deal with it.
What is most pathetic about all this is that Bush made far more brazen (and false) claims during the same election, yet he was given a free pass at the time, as opposed to those idiots who still insist, 6 years later, that Gore was a serial liar or embelisher despite large amounts of debunking. One choice example: in one of the debates he took credit for Texas being the first state to allow patients to sue their HMO's, when in fact he vetoed that legislation and then let it pass his desk without a signature when it passed again with veto proof margins.
Good points. The man deserves to be fired, given some community service, and be referred to treatment. But I think any jail term for virtual obsence material is going to far, much less a sentance of 20 years.
Canada's current problem is that it lacks a critical mass of stupid people. 13 million dumb Americans is a group to be reckoned with, but 1.3 million dumb Canadians is just Manitoba.
Dammit! I'm in North Dakota, and we have plenty of rednecks here, too. South Dakota is full of them as well, along with Montana and rural Minnesota. Now you're telling me I can't even escape to the north?
so what the HELL are you smoking?!
Florida's felon list. Black districts in Ohio having a third the number of machines needed, resulting in some people having to stand in line for many hours to vote. What are YOU smoking?
Oh, Kerry certianally was inept, but not for any of the reasons you suggest.
Kerry's career as a Senator gave very good indicators as to his politics. You only had to look at his voting record to see that it didn't match what was coming out of his mouth. He'd even say one thing before a crowd, then another two days later to another.
That was the GOP spin, but GOP spin and reality seldom have anything to do with eachother. Kerry's instant responce to any charges of "flip flopping" should have been "yeah, well at least I didn't take credit for legislation I vetoed." You see, during one of the 2000 debates, Bush took credit for Texas being the first state to allow states to sue their HMO's, when in fact he vetoed the bill. The media was far too obsessed with inventing Gore "fibs" at the time to take notice, however.
The problem the Dems have is that they can run very tough races against other Dems. But against a Republican, they suddenly turn into spinless pussies for no apprant reason. It's as if all the Democrats campaign managers and consultants were on the GOP payroll.
Go watch a He Haw marathon and then maybe you'll be able to translate his post.
Many other people, including print journalists, disagree with you and Apple on this matter.
And those people would be wrong. Aside from reporting, a professional code of ethics is part and parcel of journalism. No code of ethics, no journalism. And the same bloggers that try to lay claim to the rights and presige of journalists are also the very same ones who are vehemently opposed to being held to any standard whatsoever. They want the rights without the responsibility.