In the windows 95 days if you installed Quicktime player, it would change all your.jpg associations to use their shitty image viewer. You could change the associations to your preferred choice BUT every time you ran quicktime, it would change the associations.
Sure, but Apple were hardly the only ones who did this.
So. Fast forward to today. I had two non-technical friends say, "Hey Mike, how come I can't see flash movies on webpages now that I installed the newest version of quicktime? It just shows a broken Quicktime icon..." I said "Gee, Apple OSX user and Windows XP Home user, I don't know. Let me look into it."
Uh, yeah, not sure how you guys managed that one. I've done buttloads of XP and 2k installs with Flash and Quicktime and have never seen that happen.
Oh yeah, and most apple users (in my experience) are so damn snide.
Pffft. And there are no snide PC users? Please. And there is one important distinction to make: 90% of Mac user's distain for PC's is for Windows. How many PC users that you know, snobbish or otherwise, actually like Windows?
Spot how he deliberately missed the comparison of the Mini iPod to the Rio Nitrus (a 1" HD player), and instead picked a Rio 256MB flash player as a convenient strawman.
Oh, of course he should have compared it to other people's vaporware./sarcasm
regard to the IPod being not an inovation. MP3 players have been around for ages.
Invention is not required for innovation. Yes there were small players before the iPod, and larger capacity players before the iPod, but there weren't any other players that had a large capacity in a compact form factor. There was nothing else like the iPod at the time of its introduction. Nothing. That, and the industry has followed Apple in making small size-high capacity players, most with hard drives. How is that *not* the definition of innovation?
Apple just have great marketing. That's all there is to it.
Snob. The iPod is a phenomenon because Apple made a product with the best combination of features and it took a very long time before anyone could touch them. And its *still* arguably a superior product because of its interface and software integration. Apple's compeditors seem to think they'll have an "iPod killer" on their hands if they take a billeted list its features and one up them. But just because your player has a couple more hours of batter life and costs $40 less doesn't automatically mean you have a better product on your hands. The iPod succeeded because it had a great mix of features, and to beat it your player will have to do the same.
As the AC pointed out, yes the GUI was invented before Apple came along (and XEROX as well), but Apple were the first to take this proof-of-concept and make it usable.
The article says that Fadell shopped his idea around before settling on Apple. As this is the history of the *iPod*, who came up with the ideas of hard drive players or music stores is not relevant. Save your complaining for a history of mp3 players in general.
One of the reasons Valve developed Steam to deliver games online was to cut out the "middleman tax". Rather than getting $7 out of a $50 game, they'd get the whole pie. I'm cool with this, because this way the devloper gets more money and publishers are usually dicks.
So I check out how much it would cost to order, and its just as much as retail! Zero physical distribution costs, supposedly no publisher costs (how's that lawsuit with Vivendi going?), no inventory costs and they can't give gamers a fucking discount?
If this is some contractual snafu with Vivendi, where they have to charge a minimum price or something, they could offer an incentive to order online, like a coupon for the first expansion pack. NOT offer to let you pay more money for free mods (CS and DOD) that people OTHER than Valve came up with in the first place.
So right now, rather than being the couragious little guy challenging Goliath (Vivendi), Valve seems to be just as greedy as the publisher they are suing. I *had* been all set to buy HL2 but picked up Far Cry instead. I'll just wait for a Black Friday sale and Valve will get $7 instead of $50. Or just wait till HL2 comes down in price. Or just wait for it to be cracked.
its just severely hampered by the fact that its designed to run on an xbox, so there is a lot of loading small areas within a level. just not as big and airy as DX1
That was a big sore spot with me. A single big level on the first Deus Ex would be split up into at least 6 parts with the second. That and there's only a couple of big outdoor maps, and those are also divided up into smaller sections.
The other sore spot was how gameplay took a step BACK from the origional. I could understand how it sounds lame for a supposedly trained agent to need experience in order to shoot a gun accuratly, but you could file that under "field experience". Also, wtf was with having FEWER body mods than in the origional?
Another thing was that the scope of the first game was huge. While the sequel had factions and secret organizations and what not, it felt limited in comparison. The only thing DX2 has over DX1 is a prettier engine; the first game is still more fun to play.
I was waiting for someone with zero sense of proportion to pipe up. Took longer than I thought.
Really? Then explain Al Sharpton, Rev. Jackson, Bill Clinton and all the other Dem leaders who preach about it?
About that sense of proportion: like its hard to find some comment from any politician on any side of any subject. You can even find one talking about Canada's national igloo. There's just a sliiiight difference between making some pandering comments about 'decency' and devoting your ENTIRE CARREER to it. Now, try telling me again that Sharpton, Jackson and Clinton are remotely equivalent to Bennet, Fallwell and Santorum. Seriously, as if Clinton would spend any great length of time lecturing others when his affair with Jennifer Flowers was common knowledge.
Also, Fallwell hasn't help a public office
He's only a prominent voice in the dominant wing of the Republican Party. Now Jackson and Sharpton also have a lot of influence in the NAACP crowd, one of the Democrat's primary constituencies, but Fallwell talks more about morals on his day off than those other two do in ten years. And that was *before* Jackson's affair came out.
and one of the major supporters of fining broadcasters and hosts who break FCC 'rules' is a Democrat.
And who might that be? Go ahead, name him. I'll just come back with another 5 Republicans who are just as bad, starting with the senator who thinks that doctors that perform abortions should be executed.
You need to educate yourself as it is obvious you lack the ability to think for yourself.
What's obvious is that you were too busy being impressed with your own cleverness to come up with a decent argument. And you got spanked. Care to try again, this time without the patronization?
The Dems are just as bad, HINT - Tipper Gore, Al Gore and a whole list of others from the Dem side of the isle that try to control things.
While more have supported them, there have been exactly two prominent Democrats who whine about morals and pander to the 'decency' crowd: Tipper Gore and Joe Liberman. And Tipper Gore held no public office. Compare that to William Bennet, John Ashcroft, Michael Powell, Jerry Fallwell, and so on. Its no contest.
Not. Back in 2000, Nader and other Greens said that it was okay if a man that was the polar opposite of almost everything they stood for was elected, because the inevitable backlash would advance their causes. And while there has been a backlash against Bush, it wasn't nearly enough to keep him from winning 51% of the vote and his party taking more seats in the Senate.
So, I would *much* rather act now rather than pin my hopes on a mass backlash that either never arrives or isn't enough to get the job done.
Huh huh. People who insist you have to spend a $1000 on a cd player when in reality a $20 one sounds every bit as good. Did you ever consider the fact that your Nomad has better headphones?
One of my peeves is that car manufactuers don't put in car stereos that would take a simple miniplug. This would probably cost them a whole couple of dimes...wtf?
Well, if you want to make an apples to apples comparison, Qucktime player predates WMP. And as a library manager/online music store that transfers music to portable devices, iTunes had that capability long before WMP did.
God I hate retail, mostly because I refuse to take shit.
So long as you take it out on the right people thats all well and good. My grandmother is convinced that all the employees at grocery stores are just there to sell you rotten fruit and rip you off at the cash register. I have to explain to her, "Grandma, these people are making six bucks an hour, THEY DON'T CARE."
but I've seen a lot more of it coming from the Left.
Please, spare me. When the Republicans lecture the Democrats on fiscal responsiblity, but are the only ones to have run up $400+ billion defecits? When they claim to be the party of states rights but are mum when a federal court puts their man in the Oval Office? When they claim to oppose government intrustion into peoples lives, then try to ban abortion and gay marriage? When Clinton's weakness for the ladies was a national disgrace, but it was just fine for Newt Gengrich, Henry Hyde, Jack Ryan and Ahnold? When Clinton was impeached for making deliberatly misleading statements about sex, but its just fine for Bush to make deliberatly misleading statements and taking us into a $120+ billion dollar war thats cost over a thousand American lives?
Sure the Democrats can engage in hypocracy now and then, but when they do so they have to make royalty payments to the Republicans because they have hypocracy patented.
I'm not sure that you do, unless you are talking purely about purchasing media without a medium, a la iTunes. Otherwise, with the exception of the anti-circumvention aspects of the DMCA, books, movies and music are afforded no more and no less protections than they were 30 years ago. EULA's and talk of licensing with music cds are irrelevant and unenforcable because they are trying to impose contractual agreements after you've already made your purchase.
I would think that being one of the least biased and having a "relatively strong liberal/progressive bias" would be a contradiction in terms. That or we are in a dark age of media impartiality. In any case, NPR is not a great progressive voice compared to the likes of Salon.
Not so fast. First off, if I'm just buying the medium, why does it cost so much, when a blank CD doesn't?
Don't be silly. You're buying a copy of some kind of medium that has content, whether it be a music cd or a book. With a blank cd, you're getting a...blank cd.
All your other examples seem to involve making and distributing copies, which I already covered.
And being patronizing is? Don't blame me for muddying the discource, I was just following you.
But, I'm not going to sink to the same level that you've sunk to. Since your response indicates that you don't care about discussion, only about irrationally defending your ignorant, selfish, make-believe view of the world, I'm not going to waste my time.
What, no more condecending statements that we don't know what we are talking about because we don't have the exact same opinion that you do?
The Myth of divorce.
Wow, thats impressive. Not. The authors decisive proof seems to be that there are existing marriages to go along with new marriages and new divorces. Except it didn't seem to occur to Mr. Genius that there are existing divorces as well.
Divorces show that children require both parents.
And if this were a discussion on the merits of single parenting, you might have a point there. But we aren't so you don't.
A kid walks into a gun shop, and starts stepping back and forth in an odd pattern. After being stopped by a puzzled clerk, the frustrated kid complains, "dammit, I looked up this cheat code for unlimited weapons but its not working! Maybe I'm doing something wrong...up up down down left right left right...."
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Wow thats gay, if true. Batman Forever gay, if it had been any gayer they would have had zippers in the ass gay.
In the windows 95 days if you installed Quicktime player, it would change all your .jpg associations to use their shitty image viewer. You could change the associations to your preferred choice BUT every time you ran quicktime, it would change the associations.
Sure, but Apple were hardly the only ones who did this.
So. Fast forward to today. I had two non-technical friends say, "Hey Mike, how come I can't see flash movies on webpages now that I installed the newest version of quicktime? It just shows a broken Quicktime icon..." I said "Gee, Apple OSX user and Windows XP Home user, I don't know. Let me look into it."
Uh, yeah, not sure how you guys managed that one. I've done buttloads of XP and 2k installs with Flash and Quicktime and have never seen that happen.
Oh yeah, and most apple users (in my experience) are so damn snide.
Pffft. And there are no snide PC users? Please. And there is one important distinction to make: 90% of Mac user's distain for PC's is for Windows. How many PC users that you know, snobbish or otherwise, actually like Windows?
Spot how he deliberately missed the comparison of the Mini iPod to the Rio Nitrus (a 1" HD player), and instead picked a Rio 256MB flash player as a convenient strawman.
/sarcasm
Oh, of course he should have compared it to other people's vaporware.
regard to the IPod being not an inovation. MP3 players have been around for ages.
Invention is not required for innovation. Yes there were small players before the iPod, and larger capacity players before the iPod, but there weren't any other players that had a large capacity in a compact form factor. There was nothing else like the iPod at the time of its introduction. Nothing. That, and the industry has followed Apple in making small size-high capacity players, most with hard drives. How is that *not* the definition of innovation?
Apple just have great marketing. That's all there is to it.
Snob. The iPod is a phenomenon because Apple made a product with the best combination of features and it took a very long time before anyone could touch them. And its *still* arguably a superior product because of its interface and software integration. Apple's compeditors seem to think they'll have an "iPod killer" on their hands if they take a billeted list its features and one up them. But just because your player has a couple more hours of batter life and costs $40 less doesn't automatically mean you have a better product on your hands. The iPod succeeded because it had a great mix of features, and to beat it your player will have to do the same.
As the AC pointed out, yes the GUI was invented before Apple came along (and XEROX as well), but Apple were the first to take this proof-of-concept and make it usable.
Certainly Apple didn't just rip it off the Xerox guys
Actually they didn't get ripped off, at all. Xerox got paid. Repeating that urban legend makes the rest of your post about Raskin and Jobs suspect.
The article says that Fadell shopped his idea around before settling on Apple. As this is the history of the *iPod*, who came up with the ideas of hard drive players or music stores is not relevant. Save your complaining for a history of mp3 players in general.
+5 Needless Nitpicking
One of the reasons Valve developed Steam to deliver games online was to cut out the "middleman tax". Rather than getting $7 out of a $50 game, they'd get the whole pie. I'm cool with this, because this way the devloper gets more money and publishers are usually dicks.
So I check out how much it would cost to order, and its just as much as retail! Zero physical distribution costs, supposedly no publisher costs (how's that lawsuit with Vivendi going?), no inventory costs and they can't give gamers a fucking discount?
If this is some contractual snafu with Vivendi, where they have to charge a minimum price or something, they could offer an incentive to order online, like a coupon for the first expansion pack. NOT offer to let you pay more money for free mods (CS and DOD) that people OTHER than Valve came up with in the first place.
So right now, rather than being the couragious little guy challenging Goliath (Vivendi), Valve seems to be just as greedy as the publisher they are suing. I *had* been all set to buy HL2 but picked up Far Cry instead. I'll just wait for a Black Friday sale and Valve will get $7 instead of $50. Or just wait till HL2 comes down in price. Or just wait for it to be cracked.
its just severely hampered by the fact that its designed to run on an xbox, so there is a lot of loading small areas within a level. just not as big and airy as DX1
That was a big sore spot with me. A single big level on the first Deus Ex would be split up into at least 6 parts with the second. That and there's only a couple of big outdoor maps, and those are also divided up into smaller sections.
The other sore spot was how gameplay took a step BACK from the origional. I could understand how it sounds lame for a supposedly trained agent to need experience in order to shoot a gun accuratly, but you could file that under "field experience". Also, wtf was with having FEWER body mods than in the origional?
Another thing was that the scope of the first game was huge. While the sequel had factions and secret organizations and what not, it felt limited in comparison. The only thing DX2 has over DX1 is a prettier engine; the first game is still more fun to play.
I was waiting for someone with zero sense of proportion to pipe up. Took longer than I thought.
Really? Then explain Al Sharpton, Rev. Jackson, Bill Clinton and all the other Dem leaders who preach about it?
About that sense of proportion: like its hard to find some comment from any politician on any side of any subject. You can even find one talking about Canada's national igloo. There's just a sliiiight difference between making some pandering comments about 'decency' and devoting your ENTIRE CARREER to it. Now, try telling me again that Sharpton, Jackson and Clinton are remotely equivalent to Bennet, Fallwell and Santorum. Seriously, as if Clinton would spend any great length of time lecturing others when his affair with Jennifer Flowers was common knowledge.
Also, Fallwell hasn't help a public office
He's only a prominent voice in the dominant wing of the Republican Party. Now Jackson and Sharpton also have a lot of influence in the NAACP crowd, one of the Democrat's primary constituencies, but Fallwell talks more about morals on his day off than those other two do in ten years. And that was *before* Jackson's affair came out.
and one of the major supporters of fining broadcasters and hosts who break FCC 'rules' is a Democrat.
And who might that be? Go ahead, name him. I'll just come back with another 5 Republicans who are just as bad, starting with the senator who thinks that doctors that perform abortions should be executed.
You need to educate yourself as it is obvious you lack the ability to think for yourself.
What's obvious is that you were too busy being impressed with your own cleverness to come up with a decent argument. And you got spanked. Care to try again, this time without the patronization?
Well, Kerry's a christian. Edwards is a christian. They obviously aren't part of the reglious right.
Obviously Kerry and Edwards wouldn't for political reasons, but where are the Christian groups telling the right wing moralizers to piss off?
The Dems are just as bad, HINT - Tipper Gore, Al Gore and a whole list of others from the Dem side of the isle that try to control things.
While more have supported them, there have been exactly two prominent Democrats who whine about morals and pander to the 'decency' crowd: Tipper Gore and Joe Liberman. And Tipper Gore held no public office. Compare that to William Bennet, John Ashcroft, Michael Powell, Jerry Fallwell, and so on. Its no contest.
Not. Back in 2000, Nader and other Greens said that it was okay if a man that was the polar opposite of almost everything they stood for was elected, because the inevitable backlash would advance their causes. And while there has been a backlash against Bush, it wasn't nearly enough to keep him from winning 51% of the vote and his party taking more seats in the Senate.
So, I would *much* rather act now rather than pin my hopes on a mass backlash that either never arrives or isn't enough to get the job done.
a budding audiophile
Huh huh. People who insist you have to spend a $1000 on a cd player when in reality a $20 one sounds every bit as good. Did you ever consider the fact that your Nomad has better headphones?
One of my peeves is that car manufactuers don't put in car stereos that would take a simple miniplug. This would probably cost them a whole couple of dimes...wtf?
Not really, since iTunes came later.
Well, if you want to make an apples to apples comparison, Qucktime player predates WMP. And as a library manager/online music store that transfers music to portable devices, iTunes had that capability long before WMP did.
God I hate retail, mostly because I refuse to take shit.
So long as you take it out on the right people thats all well and good. My grandmother is convinced that all the employees at grocery stores are just there to sell you rotten fruit and rip you off at the cash register. I have to explain to her, "Grandma, these people are making six bucks an hour, THEY DON'T CARE."
but I've seen a lot more of it coming from the Left.
Please, spare me. When the Republicans lecture the Democrats on fiscal responsiblity, but are the only ones to have run up $400+ billion defecits? When they claim to be the party of states rights but are mum when a federal court puts their man in the Oval Office? When they claim to oppose government intrustion into peoples lives, then try to ban abortion and gay marriage? When Clinton's weakness for the ladies was a national disgrace, but it was just fine for Newt Gengrich, Henry Hyde, Jack Ryan and Ahnold? When Clinton was impeached for making deliberatly misleading statements about sex, but its just fine for Bush to make deliberatly misleading statements and taking us into a $120+ billion dollar war thats cost over a thousand American lives?
Sure the Democrats can engage in hypocracy now and then, but when they do so they have to make royalty payments to the Republicans because they have hypocracy patented.
Believe me, I understand your point
I'm not sure that you do, unless you are talking purely about purchasing media without a medium, a la iTunes. Otherwise, with the exception of the anti-circumvention aspects of the DMCA, books, movies and music are afforded no more and no less protections than they were 30 years ago. EULA's and talk of licensing with music cds are irrelevant and unenforcable because they are trying to impose contractual agreements after you've already made your purchase.
Lined up the kids, handed them some cash, and began to pile all the chicken into little 10 unit piles. Might as well play ball right?
Dude, that's fukin awsome. Did you cackle maniacaly before doing that?
I would think that being one of the least biased and having a "relatively strong liberal/progressive bias" would be a contradiction in terms. That or we are in a dark age of media impartiality. In any case, NPR is not a great progressive voice compared to the likes of Salon.
Not so fast. First off, if I'm just buying the medium, why does it cost so much, when a blank CD doesn't?
Don't be silly. You're buying a copy of some kind of medium that has content, whether it be a music cd or a book. With a blank cd, you're getting a...blank cd.
All your other examples seem to involve making and distributing copies, which I already covered.
Not really. I was hoping to get a responce from someone with a 3 digit user id. Didn't seem to work tho....
That's a sure way to win an argument.
And being patronizing is? Don't blame me for muddying the discource, I was just following you.
But, I'm not going to sink to the same level that you've sunk to. Since your response indicates that you don't care about discussion, only about irrationally defending your ignorant, selfish, make-believe view of the world, I'm not going to waste my time.
What, no more condecending statements that we don't know what we are talking about because we don't have the exact same opinion that you do?
The Myth of divorce.
Wow, thats impressive. Not. The authors decisive proof seems to be that there are existing marriages to go along with new marriages and new divorces. Except it didn't seem to occur to Mr. Genius that there are existing divorces as well.
Divorces show that children require both parents.
And if this were a discussion on the merits of single parenting, you might have a point there. But we aren't so you don't.
A kid walks into a gun shop, and starts stepping back and forth in an odd pattern. After being stopped by a puzzled clerk, the frustrated kid complains, "dammit, I looked up this cheat code for unlimited weapons but its not working! Maybe I'm doing something wrong...up up down down left right left right...."