The article really doesn't say that this is what it will be used for, so it could be something else. It could be to continue their plans to create a new digital band of radio frequencies. Has anyone heard about this stuff? The way they plan on going about it is somewhat scary. They plan on putting a digital radio signal between current station, which would affect current radio listening because FM radio works on ranges and not on specific frequencies. Was there an article on slashdot about this? I think it really is something people should know about and I don't see it as a totally good thing. I like FM radio, and forcing everyone to buy new digital radios and all the stations to move over to digital sounds really messy. Ok, now I am offtopic (well depending on what the usage of the frequencies is going to be).
The leard SDL programmer Sam Latinga is employed by them, so in a way if you buy this game you are supporting SDL. Not that it matters anyway; if all of the linux users didn't buy this game they would still sell a buttload of copies.
Those games barely scratch the surface of openGL features needed to play most commercial games. When I was working at Loki we had a bit of a time with FAKK2 and the radeon cards doing some very annoying graphic glitches which made the game unplayable. It was hard to poke the developers and get them to actually look into the problem or even fix it. Also, if you have ever seen a game like Tribes2 on both an Nvidia card and a Radeon you will really see the difference. The radeon may get decent framerates but it renders certain surfaces wrong and occasionally creates odd artifacts. Besides, the only part of the Nvidia drivers which are closed source is the openGL library which is why it does look so good. This is because DRI cards use mesa as an openGL implementation which works but just doesnt produce the same results as the real thing. This brings us back to the topic! Running the games in wine or winex may work, but it is not as good as the real thing. It is like going to McDonalds; It will fill you up, and it does the job of satisfying your hunger but if you want a real meal you go to a real resturaunt.
The larger the user base the more prone your system is to viruses. That is not the real problem when dealing with them, it is how the respective platform handles the situation when it does happen that matters, and I think MS has a bad track record on that.
It doesn't matter if you own an amiga, you can still get anthrax or the flu etc from either computer if somebody else has been touching it with icky hands and you use the same keyboard!
Refuse to support businesses? Codeweavers have 2 outstanding products which actually work and you don't see them complaining about the license change. They package the tools to make their software work and the patches go back to wine. You do not see Transgaming doing the same sort of thing with their "product." They just keep hacking at winex till games run and then release it! There is no real product there, it is just one big hack!
One thing I would like to point out here, Peter Parker perhaps did not get the girl but that is part of the story. If you read the comics, they didn't become a couple for a long while. Now they are married or something but thats besides the point!! I sure would hope Luke wouldn't "get the girl" because the girl is HIS SISTER!!! It is bad enough when they kiss, but if he "got the girl" that would have been... WRONG!
You can save your money though because OpenGL games like this work fine in normal wine. You may have to remove the safedisc stuff from the binary but after that is done, it runs fine. I have heard people who use winex have problems with software that runs fine in normal wine. For me, whenever I try out winex from cvs just to see how it does it ends up breaking things that worked before with normal wine. Also, transgaming keeps listing games with native ports in their database, which is a bad practice. Unless you dont mind paying the cash and want to support this kind of half-ass "support" for a certain title you cant possibly live without and can't stand dual booting then go ahead.
Re:For those in the UK with digital TV
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My local radio station WFMU (wfmu.org has a web stream also) has been playing these tracks for the past 2 months. Most of the good ones come from soulwax http://www.soulwax.co.uk/ and I have been seeing mention of some digital radio show that often features these tracks, but I have'nt heard it myself. I think a lot of these mixes are great and im surprised its on slashdot now because nobody else got as much as a kick out of it when i tried sharing it with people. The WFMU people found the tracks through an complilation CD that was put out in the UK called "The best bootlegs in the world ever." Some of these artists might care about their works being chopped up but certain ones probably get a kick out of it themselves (chuck D). I see it as harmless fun and these are distributed mostly over the net without a profit being made and not played on commercial radio station.
Programmers probably wont have a hard time. But all I know is QA and tech support and don't have any real "skills" like the programmers. Can anyone help pay my rent? hah
Our coders lost a whole week or two porting this...
Re:this is neither healthy nor a sign of life
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Sometimes it isnt even about the high cost. Blizzard is not interested in having linux ports... period. They do not see it as profitable and hence, it won't happen! It's not like we go around picking games out of the blue and porting them. These things have to be arranged beforehand and even if we try, sometimes we cant port a game.
Half-Life or Any Blizzard Game are not and will not be ported to linux, so please stop asking. Go help improve wine to run these games if you really want them.
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It isn't a matter of what to port, its who will let us port it! Do you people all forget that we did Tribes2 at the same time as the windows version? Kohan, similar deal.
start sending in the donations then cause creating a game costs a whole hell of a lot more than porting them. You think linux users would shell out the cash to buy us a production studio?
Re:Postal is fun, but I'd rather have Half Life
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This game requires NO 3d. And, if you read the specs it hardly requires a Pentium to run. Score 5? I would say this is offtopic, and the person didn't read the product page to boot.
First of all I would like to say... Why not port this sucker? It's a fun game to mess with and doesn't involve any fancy 3D. And it isn't _that_ old. The date on it is 1997. You can read all about the controversy over here http://gopostal.com along with screenshots etc. It is funny how some people say we port "old games" but then theres this whole group of people asking us to port counter-strike/half-life which isn't exactly new.
OH THE HORROR!! They still even make 486 chips? I guess for smaller devices, but these days people use things like... i forget, the ones with the Z... I am not an engineer!
I don't like these popup X10 things because half the time the data doesnt show up and netscape comes up and says so cause of some error or another blah blah blah. I just wanted to post something cause I haven't posted in such a long time.
Well, openverse (http://openverse.org) has been around a few years, and was originally named metaverse, obviously a snowcrash referance. We had to change it though because somebody has a trademark on the name metaverse. This patent doesnt apply to OV i guess beacuse OV is 2d and not 3d...
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The article really doesn't say that this is what it will be used for, so it could be something else. It could be to continue their plans to create a new digital band of radio frequencies. Has anyone heard about this stuff? The way they plan on going about it is somewhat scary. They plan on putting a digital radio signal between current station, which would affect current radio listening because FM radio works on ranges and not on specific frequencies. Was there an article on slashdot about this? I think it really is something people should know about and I don't see it as a totally good thing. I like FM radio, and forcing everyone to buy new digital radios and all the stations to move over to digital sounds really messy. Ok, now I am offtopic (well depending on what the usage of the frequencies is going to be).
The leard SDL programmer Sam Latinga is employed by them, so in a way if you buy this game you are supporting SDL. Not that it matters anyway; if all of the linux users didn't buy this game they would still sell a buttload of copies.
Yeah don't buy CDs so the labels go bankrupt and then the artists have no way to produce albums! Good idea!
Those games barely scratch the surface of openGL features needed to play most commercial games. When I was working at Loki we had a bit of a time with FAKK2 and the radeon cards doing some very annoying graphic glitches which made the game unplayable. It was hard to poke the developers and get them to actually look into the problem or even fix it. Also, if you have ever seen a game like Tribes2 on both an Nvidia card and a Radeon you will really see the difference. The radeon may get decent framerates but it renders certain surfaces wrong and occasionally creates odd artifacts. Besides, the only part of the Nvidia drivers which are closed source is the openGL library which is why it does look so good. This is because DRI cards use mesa as an openGL implementation which works but just doesnt produce the same results as the real thing. This brings us back to the topic! Running the games in wine or winex may work, but it is not as good as the real thing. It is like going to McDonalds; It will fill you up, and it does the job of satisfying your hunger but if you want a real meal you go to a real resturaunt.
The larger the user base the more prone your system is to viruses. That is not the real problem when dealing with them, it is how the respective platform handles the situation when it does happen that matters, and I think MS has a bad track record on that.
It doesn't matter if you own an amiga, you can still get anthrax or the flu etc from either computer if somebody else has been touching it with icky hands and you use the same keyboard!
Refuse to support businesses? Codeweavers have 2 outstanding products which actually work and you don't see them complaining about the license change. They package the tools to make their software work and the patches go back to wine. You do not see Transgaming doing the same sort of thing with their "product." They just keep hacking at winex till games run and then release it! There is no real product there, it is just one big hack!
One thing I would like to point out here, Peter Parker perhaps did not get the girl but that is part of the story. If you read the comics, they didn't become a couple for a long while. Now they are married or something but thats besides the point!! I sure would hope Luke wouldn't "get the girl" because the girl is HIS SISTER!!! It is bad enough when they kiss, but if he "got the girl" that would have been... WRONG!
You can save your money though because OpenGL games like this work fine in normal wine. You may have to remove the safedisc stuff from the binary but after that is done, it runs fine. I have heard people who use winex have problems with software that runs fine in normal wine. For me, whenever I try out winex from cvs just to see how it does it ends up breaking things that worked before with normal wine. Also, transgaming keeps listing games with native ports in their database, which is a bad practice. Unless you dont mind paying the cash and want to support this kind of half-ass "support" for a certain title you cant possibly live without and can't stand dual booting then go ahead.
My local radio station WFMU (wfmu.org has a web stream also) has been playing these tracks for the past 2 months. Most of the good ones come from soulwax http://www.soulwax.co.uk/ and I have been seeing mention of some digital radio show that often features these tracks, but I have'nt heard it myself. I think a lot of these mixes are great and im surprised its on slashdot now because nobody else got as much as a kick out of it when i tried sharing it with people. The WFMU people found the tracks through an complilation CD that was put out in the UK called "The best bootlegs in the world ever." Some of these artists might care about their works being chopped up but certain ones probably get a kick out of it themselves (chuck D). I see it as harmless fun and these are distributed mostly over the net without a profit being made and not played on commercial radio station.
Programmers probably wont have a hard time. But all I know is QA and tech support and don't have any real "skills" like the programmers. Can anyone help pay my rent? hah
This wasn't up to us. I don't even like the game anyway, no skin off my nose.
Our coders lost a whole week or two porting this...
Sometimes it isnt even about the high cost. Blizzard is not interested in having linux ports... period. They do not see it as profitable and hence, it won't happen! It's not like we go around picking games out of the blue and porting them. These things have to be arranged beforehand and even if we try, sometimes we cant port a game.
Half-Life or Any Blizzard Game are not and will not be ported to linux, so please stop asking. Go help improve wine to run these games if you really want them.
It isn't a matter of what to port, its who will let us port it! Do you people all forget that we did Tribes2 at the same time as the windows version? Kohan, similar deal.
start sending in the donations then cause creating a game costs a whole hell of a lot more than porting them. You think linux users would shell out the cash to buy us a production studio?
I'd rather have a million dollars and world peace
This game requires NO 3d. And, if you read the specs it hardly requires a Pentium to run. Score 5? I would say this is offtopic, and the person didn't read the product page to boot.
First of all I would like to say... Why not port this sucker? It's a fun game to mess with and doesn't involve any fancy 3D. And it isn't _that_ old. The date on it is 1997. You can read all about the controversy over here http://gopostal.com along with screenshots etc. It is funny how some people say we port "old games" but then theres this whole group of people asking us to port counter-strike/half-life which isn't exactly new.
The newer titles come in DVD style packaging.
OH THE HORROR!! They still even make 486 chips? I guess for smaller devices, but these days people use things like... i forget, the ones with the Z... I am not an engineer!
Loki isn't going anywhere for the time being. Buy more games if you like Loki so much!
I don't like these popup X10 things because half the time the data doesnt show up and netscape comes up and says so cause of some error or another blah blah blah. I just wanted to post something cause I haven't posted in such a long time.
_joshua the Loki tech support guy person
Well, openverse (http://openverse.org) has been around a few years, and was originally named metaverse, obviously a snowcrash referance. We had to change it though because somebody has a trademark on the name metaverse. This patent doesnt apply to OV i guess beacuse OV is 2d and not 3d...
_joshua_
Hey what about comic style chat? (sorta) ok im a troll... sorry... but maybe check out my sig link
_joshua_