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Wolfenstein Linux Binaries Available

gurb writes: "Acording to Christian Antkow's plan (finger xian@idsoftware.com or see webdog.org) linux binaries for the latest installment of Wolfenstein are out. Grab it all over at id's ftp server, enjoy!"

171 comments

  1. FP FP Fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes. Finally!!!

  2. Uhm by Jailbrekr · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Where is Loki?

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    1. Re:Uhm by zachoen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Loki ports windows games when no linux version is made available. Since ID made linux binaries, Loki doesn't need to. We should be glad for this, and hope other companies follow suit.

  3. MIRROR!! by JoeLinux · · Score: 4, Informative

    I got a mirror of it up...go to:

    http://shaz.dhs.org/~joe/wolfmp-linux-1.0.b2.x86.r un

    I look forward to seeing my bandwidth die.

    JoeLinux

    1. Re:MIRROR!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many thanks JoeLinux!

      Right now still very fast (by my southern-european-lucky-to-have-2kb/s standard). I'm sucking at over 30kb/s and I look forward to play this as soon as my pre-order copy arrives from the UK (where it should be released tomorrow, according to amazon.co.uk).

      Ciao!

    2. Re:MIRROR!! by Firetree · · Score: 1

      Die bandwidth, DIE! Seriously Joe, way to /. yourself =P. Now go out and get yourself some more bandwidth =D Wolfenstein is such a cool game, I so want to play it...now all I have to do is get that Geforce 3 TI i've been pining for....*drool* (yeah for Christmas !) Anyone know what the minimum system specs are for running a RTCW server? I got an Athlon 600 with nothing to do...sure would be nice to put it to "good use" =J ---------- Fire's out ~~X

    3. Re:MIRROR!! by toofast · · Score: 1

      I just got 350 KB/sec from you. Thanks, dude!

    4. Re:MIRROR!! by YKnot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think id should have provided some sort of cryptographic signature to give people, who are downloading the file from mirrors, the option to check whether their file has been tampered with. An executable which will be installed on so many servers certainly is a great vehicle if someone wanted to distribute a backdoor.

    5. Re:MIRROR!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone know how to get the demo working in linux?

    6. Re:MIRROR!! by linzeal · · Score: 1
      wolfmp-linux-1.0.b2.x86.run

      Its an edonkey link if you have it, it runs on Linux as well.

      Aggragate geek bandwidth damnit :)

    7. Re:MIRROR!! by Archie+Steel · · Score: 1

      Ah, man, you mean I've been playing Half-Life and Counter-Strike at 1024x768 and a smooth 30 FPS on my Linux system all this time, and I didn't have 3D support? (Not to mention that it didn't make my system crash when I paused it twice in a row, like in Windows 2000?) Man, good thing you're here to show us the error of our ways...

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    8. Re:MIRROR!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, think of all the real work you will get done while your connection to slashdot, porn, and other things is temporarily down. Very clever.

    9. Re:MIRROR!! by balbord · · Score: 1

      Although I don't quite fully agree with you I must point out Portugal as a country you forgot to mention. Portugal: Land of the Codfish, cell phones and pure lack of seriuos politicians.

      Forgive me for any spelling error. Nimda just gave my win2000 box a new meaning to "reinstal"... I knew I should have fought harder to let them install some *nix here!!! THE PAIN!

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    10. Re:MIRROR!! by Cyberdyne · · Score: 1
      I think id should have provided some sort of cryptographic signature to give people, who are downloading the file from mirrors, the option to check whether their file has been tampered with. An executable which will be installed on so many servers certainly is a great vehicle if someone wanted to distribute a backdoor.

      Which is why most Linux distros ship with MD5s of the ISO, CPAN (the Perl packaging system) ships MD5s of all the tarballs, etc...

      Speaking of which:
      9f7d2b07aec562c4c685e3d628e95c4d wolfmp-linux-1.0.b2.x86.run

      Oddly enough, the tarball DOES have hooks inside itself for an MD5 self-check - but they aren't used. Of course, this doesn't guard against malicious tampering (just change the checksum when you change the binary!), but would detect corrupt downloads. It does seem to do a CRC check though...

  4. wolf binaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cool!
    the only prob is that I know have to upgrade my hardware ;p

  5. From Linuxgames by satanami69 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Return To Castle Wolfenstein Linux Binary Released - Tuesday Nov 27 23:30:38 2001 - Updated by Michael

    id Software has released the multiplayer Linux binary for Return To Castle Wolfenstein. The announcement was made in Christian Antkow's .plan file. Big ups to Timothee Besset. The 4.57M download is available at:

    ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/wolf/linux/wolfmp -linux-1.0.b2.x86.run.

    Disclosure: I am an employee of Activision, Inc.

    Here are the install notes:

    This setup will install the linux binaries for Wolfenstein Multiplayer in /usr/local/games/wolfenstein (or any other location you request). It WON'T INSTALL ALL THE FILES REQUIRED TO RUN WOLFENSTEIN MULTIPLAYER. You will need to manually copy a number of files to the /usr/local/games/wolfenstein/main directory.

    From a win32 Wolfenstein installation, copy the following files to your /usr/local/games/wolfenstein/main directory:

    63211149 Nov 13 22:14 mp_pak0.pk3
    4449596 Nov 13 13:45 mp_pak1.pk3
    1118 Nov 13 16:59 mp_pak2.pk3
    315823656 Nov 13 12:50 pak0.pk3
    293887431 Nov 12 17:20 sp_pak1.pk3
    11026123 Nov 12 17:27 sp_pak2.pk3

    ENTERING THE CD-KEY:

    The first time you run the game, you will need to go to 'Options', and click on 'Enter CD Key' button. Enter the CD key (it's on your CD Jewel case).

    NOTE: you don't need to give a CD key if you are installing a dedicated server.

    SINGLE PLAYER:

    This release doesn't contain the single player binaries of the game. The menu command to switch to single player is present in the interface, but it is completely inoperant.

    Useful files in this installation:

    - see CHANGES for a summary of wolfenstein linux changes
    - see QUICKSTART for quick instructions to configure your dedicated server
    - see Docs/Dedicated Server Notes.html for more dedicated server information

    How to get help and report issues:

    - A FAQ with known issues and information about the linux binaries of Wolfenstein Multiplayer is maintained at the following address:
    http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux

    ttimo@idsoftware.com

    I never get to karma whore!
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    1. Re:From Linuxgames by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I never get to karma whore!"

      And I never get to harm a core.

    2. Re:From Linuxgames by Calle+Ballz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is there anyway to buy a linux license or cd for this game? one that comes with it's own cd key, it's own pak files & such? I dunno, if you're gonna show your support for linux gaming, you can't really do much by purchasing a windows game. Whether you buy the RTCW for the windows or linux, you still increment that statistic by one.

    3. Re:From Linuxgames by Lussarn · · Score: 1

      If you buy it from tuxgames they will provide numbers of sales to the publisher. At least that something.

    4. Re:From Linuxgames by krogoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Download the Linux binaries. I'm sure they're counting every sale as a windows game, but if their servers get slashdotted for a month straight by people downloading the Linux version they might notice :)

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    5. Re:From Linuxgames by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just copy over the pak files or what have you from a Windows install if you want to play single player? Has anyone tried this?

    6. Re:From Linuxgames by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      HEHEH. In windows there are 2 seperate programs you run for running single player, and multiplayer. The single player executable doesn't exist for linux YET. Though you MAY be able to get it to work under winex.

    7. Re:From Linuxgames by Seanasy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Tux Games will be selling the Windows version bundled with a custom CD that has the Linux binaries and "everything you should need to get it running."

    8. Re:From Linuxgames by Evro · · Score: 1, Interesting

      And that will tell them exactly what? That people will download it for free? People are generally more than willing to try anything that's free. The challenge is to make money from it. Even John Carmack acknowledges that the Linux gaming market is essentially wothless from a business standpoint.

      I would think that if we learned nothing else from the whole "dot com" era it's that people love free things but are completely unwilling to then pay for them. As numerous articles on even Slashdot have pointed out, people are willing to go to great lengths to give nothing back to the creators, installing junkbuster or even no longer going to certain sites that have ads. God forbid anyone try to make a dime on the stuff they're producing.

      So sure, millions of downloads will tell id something, but nothing that will make them want to release a commercial Linux version. There's no market for it.

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    9. Re:From Linuxgames by cduffy · · Score: 2

      Millions of downloads indicate that lots of people already were willing to pay for it, via the Windows version, to get the CD key necessary for the Linux version to work.

      You *could* presume that all the people who buy the Windows version and download the Linux binary are buying the game with the intent to play it on Windows... but that seems rather shaky ground. Much more likely is that a large number of these customers are buying the Windows version of the game only because the Linux binary is available. This most certainly is a market.

    10. Re:From Linuxgames by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMHO, I look at those instructions (and counteless others like them for simple freakin programs) and go 'whazza??' I love the very concept of Linux, it has much potential - and Mandrake 8.1 has made it a snap to install. But when I just want to play a simple game I want to 1. doubleclick, 2. install in proper dir, 3. play. And you know what? Call me stupid, I am definitely not - (I build systems for a living), but I refuse to switch completely to linux (I currently dual boot) while these hoops are still in place to jump through. Period.

    11. Re:From Linuxgames by krogoth · · Score: 1

      I've heard of karma whoring, but isn't repeating what I just said a little obvious?

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    12. Re:From Linuxgames by Moofie · · Score: 1

      What's the advantage of a "commercial" Linux version? How is that a win for id? Why does it matter if the box says Windows, or Mac, or Linux on it? If somebody drops $50 on Wolfenstein, id is happy. If, by putting up some code on their servers, they can get a few more people to drop the cash, why wouldn't they do it that way?

      It's not like the binaries are going to do you any good if you don't have the rest of the game...

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    13. Re:From Linuxgames by Evro · · Score: 1

      I guess you could infer what you suggested, but judging by what Mr. Carmack stated in the post to which I linked, it is not a viable market. I don't mean to quote him as "the voice of god" as many seem wont to do, but I think he, unlike the rest of those who frequent this board, is actually speaking from experience and not from some unguided assumption. This isn't meant as an attack, but unless you have similar first-hand knowledge of the Windows/Linux game industry (not that I do) then I don't really give your theory much credence in this matter.

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    14. Re:From Linuxgames by Evro · · Score: 1

      My comment was simply in reply to someone who stated that "if we hammer id's servers with downloads of the linux binary then they will be more linux friendly", or something along those lines. I was disputing that claim. I realize that you still need to have the full version + CD key to play the game. But the post to which I responded was implying that simply keeping their internet connection saturated would make id more linux-friendly (despite the fact that they are probably the most linux-friendly major developer there is, but that's beside the point). I was simply disputing that claim.

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    15. Re:From Linuxgames by cduffy · · Score: 1

      No, that was clarifying what you said for some bozo who didn't Get It (failing to see the connection between folks taking advantage of the free download and sales made based on its availability). That's quite distinct from straight repetition.

    16. Re:From Linuxgames by cduffy · · Score: 2

      I'm not saying that the Linux gaming market is profitable, merely that your assertion (that the number of people downloading the Linux version is unrelated to sales) is mistaken.

      The linux gaming market may be unprofitable even if (say) 50% of all downloads of the Linux client represent a sale made on the basis of that client's availability. Hence, our positions need not be incompatible.

    17. Re:From Linuxgames by cduffy · · Score: 2

      The difference here is that this download is only useful to customers. Hence, Id's numbers aren't skewed by the numerous freeloaders who download demos (for instance) but don't play them; rather, almost all the downloaders indicate actual customers who have already put down money for the game.

      Yes, there exist lots of people who are unwilling to pay for their software -- but those aren't the people who are downloading this file, because it's useless to anyone who hasn't already put up the cash to pay for the game.

      Claiming that there is *no* market for Linux gaming is rather harsh -- I've purchased (that's right, *purchased*, as in sent money!) games from Loki, and will likely continue to do so in the future (from them or elsewhere, when I see something I really like). That the market is so small as to make persuing it an unuseful distraction for a company such as Id which doesn't specialize in such a thing, I may grant. That the market is utterly worthless is disputed, however, by the very existance of commercial games for Linux.

  6. Ooh - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - but will it run on Linux?

  7. Great... by dimator · · Score: 3, Funny

    As if I didn't have enough to do with MGS2, Super Monkey Ball, and $50 dreamcasts with dirt cheap games... now this.

    And Final Fantasy X just around the corner...

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    1. Re:Great... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      And Final Fantasy X just around the corner...

      What, they've already made nine sequels to that movie!?

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    2. Re:Great... by zombieking · · Score: 2

      Well, I have the windows version of Return to Castle Wolfnestein. My only minor gripe is that I can't run my firewall when playing multiplayer or it crashes because I have a Voodoo 5 card. Other than that, the game is amazing. Here's a review on the Windows version from Gamespot.

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    3. Re:Great... by MindStalker · · Score: 2

      Run the quake helper on your firewall, should fix your problem. Voodoo 5? Sorry, your stupid! But try downloading the newest opengl (www.glsetup.com) and turning off as many of the voodoo 5 specific features as you can find.

    4. Re:Great... by zombieking · · Score: 2

      I wasn't stupid buying a Voodoo 5 card two years ago (except for the price of the card). Since 3dfx went under, I kick myself everytime I see the price of one of those now... Thanks, I'll try that.

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  8. Nein Nein.. was: Re:Ich Bein by sluggie · · Score: 1

    Kein Verständniss für die deutsche Sprache... zzz...

    "Ich bin ein Binary" muss es heissen...

    stay xund ppl...

  9. maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you explain what it is I can tell you if I've done it..

  10. What is the point? (-1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most Linux users have a Windows box for other games, word processing, financial applications, web browsing with IE, and looking at porn, so why not just use that for Wolf too?

  11. Mirror by cstrommen · · Score: 4, Informative
    Since this probably will take down id's server I've mirrored the file on my web-server. The more the better :)

    Location: http://realityx.net/wolfmp-linux-1.0.b2.x86.run

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  12. morons by psycho · · Score: 1

    when will you learn not to link to ftp url's from slashdot?

  13. WARNING !!! by nsebban · · Score: 2, Funny

    Big productivity low down all over the Linux world ! :)

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  14. Explain please, why no single player? by sethdelackner · · Score: 1

    Someone? Are they at least planning a single player binary?

    1. Re:Explain please, why no single player? by SPaReK · · Score: 1

      I too am interested in a Single Player Linux binary. Multiplayer on a dialup isn't much fun. I asked this same question on Blue's, and one of the commenters said they were planning one, but I don't know how much he knows:

      Blue's Comment Section

    2. Re:Explain please, why no single player? by cigarky · · Score: 2

      A linux binary will be available shortly through Tux Games which will also have the Windows version on the CD. It can be pre-ordered now.

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    3. Re:Explain please, why no single player? by The_Dougster · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I ordered mine! Gimme gimme!

      I must be like the Linux games king! I gottem all!

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  15. Issues by Sho0tyz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This release isn't quite as nice as some of iD's past Linux offerings. First, this release only works for the multiplayer portion of the game. The single player portion is said to be supported in a later release, but who knows how long that will take. Second, you must use either wine or an actual windows installation to install this thing. Apparently it has to do with how the CD was put together, it's just one big EXE from which all the PAK files are extracted. So you must run the windows installer under wine so you can get the PAK files, so you can finally install the Linux binary. Seems like quite a hassle to me, I would really hate to install wine just so I could run one game natively under Linux. Apparently the people at Tuxgames are working on setting up some sort of linux installer. But what options do they really have? The way I see it they could either set up some sort of mini-wine distribution on their installation CD to extract the data from the EXE, or find out the compression scheme that this EXE uses and hack together some native linux program to get the PAK data out. Either way, it doesn't sound like a lot of fun.

    1. Re:Issues by Seemlar · · Score: 1

      A minor point, but I don't think this is a 'id' release as such.

      The actual game was made by Grey Matter Studios, (with another company handling the multiplay), I think id were just there in a 'creative control' role.

    2. Re:Issues by psxndc · · Score: 4, Flamebait
      This'll be modded down, but moderators go for it, I've got the karma to burn.

      I can't believe your complaining that the company has put forth at least _some_ effort in this. They could easily turn around and say "If you want to play the game at all, you have to install Windows". There is no market for Linux games, no matter how many posts you see on /. that seem to the contrary. Maybe later when Linux has more of a foothold in the desktop OS space (that's another whole other holy war), but for right now, it makes no sense for a company to invest ANY money in developing a game's client for Linux. Should they invest in developing/porting server side code? Yes. The more servers, the more people can connect and enjoy the game which hopefuly means more sales, but the fact they are making an effort to provide _something_ to a market that they will lose money on should be applauded.

      Face it, we live in a windows based world. It's great that there are people that don't have windows installed at all. I seriously, truly envy you. I wish I could get rid of my install of Win98, but there is just too much stuff I'm not willing to give up yet. People like me that won't buy any new Windows software are in the minority in the consumer pool, and people like you that don't even run windows is even smaller. Don't complain that id (or whoever) is making a smart business choice by not investing their time and money into what is in the grand scheme of things, a black whole.

      psxndc

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    3. Re:Issues by Scanline · · Score: 1

      Grey Matter Studios, previously known as Xatrix Entertainment? If so then I must say that RtCW is a lot more interesting than their earlier releases which include Kingpin: Life of Crime, Quake II: The Reckoning and Redneck Rampage.

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      I just don't know when to quit."
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    4. Re:Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This'll be modded down, but moderators go for it, I've got the karma to burn.

      Wow! It's nice to see that ol' trick still works.

    5. Re:Issues by Flagbrew · · Score: 1
      Yes I am one of those folks who doesn't run Windows, and yes I find the whole RTCW thing unfortunate. Why should they (id, activision, whomever) toss aside the linux user as a non-entity, when a goodly amount of the _dedicated_ servers for RTCW will be running on linux platforms. So id goes ahead and releases akward binaries for the multiplayer aspect of the game, undoubtedly, to quench the certain stream of unhappy server admins' emails. I doubt the "black whole [sic]" is as empty as you might imply.

      I shot off an email to activision on the 19th of November (2 days prior to this going gold) asking if they had plans to release the game in linux and was met with a stock response on how company policy was to not discuss unreleased games. Following up on the question they responded on the 28th:

      At 11/28/2001 07:49 AM we wrote -Hello, We will not be releasing a RTCW for
      linux.


      So I guess I will have to wait until Loki, Tuxgames, or somebody tries to port the whole game. Hopefully someone does, and hopefully linux gamers will buy it. I wish game developers would take a hard look at how Black Isle has decided to simultaneously release Never Winter Nights on linux, Mac, and windows platforms. The excitement that this has generated is phenomenal, and there is a good chance, IMHO, NWN will break records in the linux department.
    6. Re:Issues by Bilestoad · · Score: 1

      when a goodly amount of the _dedicated_ servers for RTCW will be running on linux platforms

      Says who? And who says you've been tossed aside? You've got the ability to run your dedicated server, and you can play multiplayer. The poster to whom you replied is absolutely correct. Id have NO financial reason to be doing a Linux port. They might want your good will, but they already gave you multiplayer for nothing, don't be an ingrate.

      I know you won't agree with this, but if ever a game was a reason to install Windows this is it. Single player was excellent - the end boss is easy to defeat once you work out how, and the zombies could be a little tedious, but 90% is tense, fun action. It really is a worthy successor to the original. Excellent, balanced weapons, smart enemies, great maps, sensible side tasks and puzzles. Maybe I'll go start it again on "hurt me plenty" now.

      I hope someone does a Linux version too, and I hope they make money doing it. The first is doubtful and the second even more unlikely given the time that must elapse before a Linux version is available. I hope NWN does OK but it's got some tough competition in AD&D RPGs right now.

  16. Want to help your fellow Linux gamers? by Nailer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux Castle Wolf rocks, but be aware of the following limitations:

    1) The current binaries are multiplayer full version only. No single player.

    2) The game must be installed under Wine or Windows. Which sucks...

    Now for the interesting bit:

    Everyone will love you if you fix this piece of software (or make your own) to work with modern Wise Installer archives.

    The Wolf3D CD contaisn a 500MB win32 setup.exe file in which the necessary pak files for the linus install go. Thsi is in wise installer format, which is similar to zip with different headers. Coders - if you can work out a way of extracting this archive under Linux, you have my external respect and the love of Linux Gamers everywhere. It should be pretty easy from my research (the software mentioned is non free qmail license source code) for someone with the skills, but I'm still teaching myself Kernighan and Ritchie.

    1. Re:Want to help your fellow Linux gamers? by denzo · · Score: 1
      Maybe I'm an idiot but why not just copy all the files from a windows install?
      Ach, mein lebe, these fine folk want to be able to install RTCW directly from Linux and not have to boot up into a Windows partition to play it. Think about it, "RTCW for Linux" should really mean that, and not "RTCW for Linux through Windows".

      Here's a lame analogy: If you want to go down the street one block, don't take the ferry across the river and a bus back across the bridge to get there. Just walk down one block. :p

    2. Re:Want to help your fellow Linux gamers? by Amon+Re · · Score: 1

      If you run wine on the setup.exe for Return to Castle Wolfenstein, it will extract those pak files during the install.

  17. Demo? by Psiren · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can you use this to run the demo, or is that single player only? If so, is there any way to demo it under Linux yet?

    1. Re:Demo? by Lussarn · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes there is a demo. Or multiplayer test I think it's called.

      Download here.

    2. Re:Demo? by Ace+Rimmer · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is multiplayer only. And no - you have to have a cd key. The mp-level from the demo is included.

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  18. Re:Ich Bein by 3th3rn3t · · Score: 1

    It iz ze Americaaaaaan !
    wouldnt it be lightyears better if they actually usued pure-deutch voice samples ? ( kinda like DOD mod for HL ).
    NO, i am NOT in an SS fanclub.

    :)

  19. Loki by Seemlar · · Score: 1

    I have to admit I don't know a lot about Loki (I'm not a Linux user), but weren't Loki in very dire conditions business wise not very long ago, that might make working on Wolfenstein not an option for them?

    The Lokigames site shows their latest two works as Postal and Heavy Metal FAKK 2 - neither are 'big names', highly sucessful or new releases.

    1. Re:Loki by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not that I'm into conspiracy theories, but if I *wanted* to run Loki games out of business, I'd suggest they port, umm... Heavy Metal FAKK2 and Postal.

      sad, sad, sad.

      -AC

    2. Re:Loki by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would expect a port of Daikatana next.

    3. Re:Loki by joshua_doesnt_know · · Score: 1

      This wasn't up to us. I don't even like the game anyway, no skin off my nose.

  20. Mirror, mirror... by SILIZIUMM · · Score: 2, Informative

    I found another mirror, FTP and HTTP. Enjoy it, 'cause WolfMP on Linux is a real killer - I mean it works very well :) I hope the SP part will be avaiable soon !

    Here's the mirrors :
    http://ftp.stenstad.net/mirrors/rtcw/wolfmp-linu x- 1.0.b2.x86.run
    ftp://ftp.stenstad.net/mirrors/rtcw/wolfmp-linux -1 .0.b2.x86.run

    1. Re:Mirror, mirror... by SILIZIUMM · · Score: 1

      Oops, just figured out that there were spaces in the address. Remove them to download the files, the server is quite fast btw..

    2. Re:Mirror, mirror... by MindStalker · · Score: 2

      Actually I recently found out that the reason for the space is not the ascii art. But that its needed to allow for good word wrap flow. Because long words would cause it to sometimes not wrap sometimes and produce a scrollbar. Anyways I think slashdot could handle this in a better way. or even make it recongize url's and automatically make them links. :)

  21. No SP=No Interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "This release doesn't contain the single player binaries of the game. The menu command to switch to single player is present in the interface, but it is completely inoperant. "

    Plus you have to install the bugger on a Win partition.

    1. Re:No SP=No Interest by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 2
      I don't get it. Why can't you play a multi-player game by yourself? Or won't it run without a second copy running on another PC? But then, how do you start the first copy, or do you have to start them all at the same time? I don't get it.

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      If all this should have a reason, we would be the last to know.
  22. Interesting thought. by pj7 · · Score: 1

    People who are interested in video games look for video gaming news on "video game based boards". Just because a new update to a video game is released doesn't really warrant it as "breaking news" or "stuff that matters". But still, it gets posted here. And I read it here first. I'm a moderately advid gamer, and I get all my news from slashdot, what does that say?
    Go ahead and mod me down, I'm still asleep and am opt to ramble anyhting at this point.

    1. Re:Interesting thought. by led · · Score: 1

      actually it's a great video game, wich works on linux, wich uses the quake III engine and it's wolf, wolfnstein is back... common it's worth a slashdot post...
      wolf was the first, I played the first game 1000s times...
      besides there aren't that many quality games that work on linux, and no I don't have a windows to play games... (nor do I want one for that matter)

    2. Re:Interesting thought. by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is, this is posted a day late. I was playing this yesterday afternoon.

    3. Re:Interesting thought. by Deflatamouse! · · Score: 1

      Slashdot is CmdrTaco's site, and he or the other editors can post whatever they want on it. You have no say. This is a dictatorship.

  23. Re:Ich Bein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -> you its scheissendreckscheissendreck scheissendreck

  24. try this by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    STFU, open your email client and fire off a quick email to ID.

    It should read something like the following...

    Dear Sirs,

    I humbly bow down at your feet, for thou hast graced upon we humble followers of the Linux faith, another one of the greatest games of all time.

    We of the Linux faith understand that you will be compensated in no way whatsoever for your efforts to provide we few with the pleasure of playing your games, so I must reiterate how greatful we truly are.

    Sincerely,
    Whiny bitch

    P.S. And if you have time, do you think it would be possible for someone to write an installer? But only if you're feeling really generous. If not, that's ok, I'll just use wine to install it, I am an intelligent Linux user afterall, so it's no problem for my whiny ass.

    P.P.S. My humble thanks again.

    And if they still don't write an installer, you STFU and use wine to install it and thank the Linux Gods that there are people on this earth who do things even when it doesn't help them in any way. And do so quickly before you anger the Linux Gods and the folks at ID for being so unappreciative.

    Damn... you'd think people could appreciate things once in a while...

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    1. Re:try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if they still don't write an installer, you STFU and use wine to install it and thank the Linux Gods that there are people on this earth who do things even when it doesn't help them in any way. And do so quickly before you anger the Linux Gods and the folks at ID for being so unappreciative.

      Im going to assume that your sarcasm is aimed at those who really think we should be eternally greatfull for the unsupported binaries.
      Still there are people that truly feel we should bow down and praise id for them throwing us a bone.

      Think about it. There is a small, but growing group of people that refuse to buy win32 only software.If id didn't make the linux client they would lose out on the sale to each of these people. It is not a lot of money, but its something.

      Besides, the investment for id could not have been all that big to do this. The vast majority of the game code is in bytecode and datafiles and other already platform independant code. And, if it was just ttimo doing the port in his spare time, then the port to linux was not a HUGE feat. just like the porting of Unreal Tournament linux binaries was not a huge feat for Epic games.

      Face it, these days the only platforms are not just windows and macs. Game companies have to consider at least PC, Mac, XBox, Playstation2, Gamecube, and maybe linux as well when making things like 3rd person shooters. If you really think we should be greatful when games need to be designed cross plafrom anyways, then give id your 50 bucks for the game and write them a sincere letter explaining that you would not have bought the game if there was no port.

    2. Re:try this by TV-SET · · Score: 1

      Oops. I accidentally sent all of your post. :-)

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    3. Re:try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it's a small but shrinking group. Win2k exposed the BSOD-every-hour lie for what it is; XP is even better. If you truly can't stand MS, now MacOS X is a reasonable alternative - and that's the non Win32 game development that companies are choosing. Linux is a distant third. If you want to count all the consoles it's about seventh!

      Why should a company spend money on activities that provide no return? You do know the reason for having a company, don't you?

    4. Re:try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know the reason for having a company, don't you?

      Ok smart guy, Let's assume that a mere 1000 people buy it because its available to linux. And assume that they make like 10 bucks on each sale. And assume that if the port was something that someone was able to do in his spare time, that it was ... hmm..i don't know... 100 man hours of work.
      Well then $10,000 dollars minus 100*0.00 dollars an hour = $10,000 dollars profit.

      Ok that's a lame sales-cost=profit example. But if there are like seven targeted platforms, then the code should be geared to minimize cost/time required to product each port.Especially if the game may run on architectures as different as windowsXP and PS2

      The point is that if it is cost effective to do the port, then do it. And it seems that it was cost effective to do this port. So we don't need to bow down and kiss id's ass even if the port is only slightly profitable. Payment for the product and pointing out that we are using the linux version is all the thanks they need.
      Should we be greatful if they take a loss to bring us a linux game?.
      I guess, but It would be stupid for them to do that.

  25. Not that it means much.... by mystery_bowler · · Score: 2

    'cause I don't plan on downloading, but I'd just like to give a little thanks to id and Raven (didn't Raven develop RTCW?) for being such good supporters of the Linux commmunity. I do believe id is the only game development company in the world that will make a game readily available to Linux users without the game first being a huge hit (although I'm sure RTCW will be a huge hit, at least in sales).

    It means a lot that they are this willing to put in the extra effort. Thanks, id.

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    1. Re:Not that it means much.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, raven did not develop rtcw.
      gray matter did the single player, nerve did the multiplayer, and id provided the engine and other assistance =]

  26. We Don't Exist !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "There is no market for Linux games, no matter how many posts you see on /."

    Hmm. No market even if we ask for it.

    how do we win?!?!

    1. Re:We Don't Exist !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Purchasing the software would be a good place to start. Dollars speak louder than words.

    2. Re:We Don't Exist !!!! by zangdesign · · Score: 1

      Write your own games and make them better than the ones for Windows.

      But (and this is the catch) you'll probably need to sell them (huge gasp of horror from the free software crowd) so you can have money for marketing and packaging and whatnot.

      Oh, yeah, and you'll need to copy protect them so they don't get traded around easily.

      Do you begin to see why this won't work ...

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    3. Re:We Don't Exist !!!! by SCHecklerX · · Score: 2
      Uh...


      It's hard to pay for games that don't exist.


      I will *NOT* buy any windoze games. I *DO* however own linux games from Loki. If they don't want my money, fine. Games aren't such a necessary part of my life that I'm willing to bother with having windoze on any of my machines. Too bad.


      I'm sure there are others who won't buy it until it is linux native either. What's the point of having wolf if you don't get to play singleplayer? Network will just be another quake. yay.

    4. Re:We Don't Exist !!!! by psxndc · · Score: 1
      The truth is, we probably won't win until Linux is established more as a consumer OS and not just a server OS. Do most homes have servers? No. Do most homes have PC's that kids and grownups play games on? yeah. If more people use Linux exclusively, then there will be more demand for apps for it. If there is more demand for apps, developers will put effort into making them. If developers put the effort in, and this is key, and there is money to be made by putting in this effort, then a market will be established. If a market is established for it, then Linux will become more of a desktop OS. It's a big circle. It's sad but it really does come down to making Linux a more consumer level/friendly/accepted/whatever OS first (and I applaud those that work towards this).

      psxndc

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    5. Re:We Don't Exist !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well I won't buy any games that don't ship for my Atari 800. If they don't want my money, that's fine with me.

      That's why I support the one austrian guy who still writes Atari 800 games (generally hacked versions of space invaders with Bill Gates' head and Amigas instead of aliens.)

      Through this profound personal statement of mine, soon the Atari 800 will return to the gaming throne it once held.

  27. OS X by Refrag · · Score: 2

    Graeme, where are the Mac OS X binaries? :) I took my iBook to the parents' for Thanksgiving and really wanted to play some Wolfenstein on it. Unfortunately, the harddrive on my mother's E-machine didn't have enough free space to install Wolf. :(

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    1. Re:OS X by CtrlPhreak · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is that you think you will be able to play wolf well on your iBook. Apple realy needs to up the iBooks video, it's way to underpowered.

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    2. Re:OS X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the Wolf MP test release was playable on my 500MHz iBook. Choppy, but playable. Alice (another Q3 engine game) was fine. Unreal Tournament, on the other hand, was definately not playable.

    3. Re:OS X by Refrag · · Score: 2

      I've played Wolfenstein multiplayer test on my iBook. I cranked the graphics all the way down before I begain playing it. It ran smoother than Wolfenstein on my Win2000 box with moderate graphics settings and a GeForce 256. I could probably crank the graphics up quite a bit and still get good performance. Now all I need to do is buy an extra USB mouse for my iBook -- FPS games and trackpads don't mix.

      Both my iBook and my Wintel PC are 600mHz, so the iBook is faster.

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  28. RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    RMS=JUDE

  29. I'll hack one for you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It may suspiciously look like Quake except the monsters will have crudely edited nazi helmets and machine guns.

  30. Finally! by SnapperHead · · Score: 2

    I can now go out and buy the game :) I wasn't gonna get it until a Linux port was avaiable. I played the multi-player test for a while, which got boring, becuase I played it everynight for a month :)

    I have read some people complaining about the installation. Yes, it sucks, but at least they ported it. Durring the initital talks about RTCWS, they said there wouldn't be a Linux port. Not even the current binary download.

    Be happy they changed there minds.

    If ID Software is saying they just barly broke even on Q3A for Linux, why don't they have both versions on the CD ? Then just have the server browser detect the OS its running on for stats and what not. I think that in it self would help move more people to Linux.

    Games on Linux is a large reason why people aren't switching. Loki games has done a *VERY* good job at it so far. There installation program that they GPLed, is being used in some cool places. For example, all Borland products released on Linux use it :)

    If they would only port Everquest to Linux, you would have a swarm of people switching to 100% Linux.

    At any rate, thanks ID and (Gray matter is it ?) for the Linux port.

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    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep in mind that if you buy the game right now, you will go down in the databases as Yet Another Satisfied Windows-using customer, who has voted with his dollars for more games to be produced for Windows.

      If you wait and buy it from Tuxgames when the Linux port, including singleuser play, is finished and released (which is coming) then you will send a somewhat different message.

    2. Re:Finally! by SnapperHead · · Score: 1

      I wasn't planing on getting it today or anything. But, if Tuxgames is going to create a Linux release of it, I will hold off. I would much rather buy the Linux boxed version. I bought 4 copys of Q3A to show my support. I know some people think thats crazy, but I really enjoy it, even till today. Urban Terror and Q3F kick ass :)

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  31. Thank you idSoftware! by Chang · · Score: 1

    I bought the Windows version last week and I played so much multiplayer over the weekend that I just about hurled on my monitor.

    Yesterday I showed some friends multiplayer RTCW under Linux and for many of them I think it was the first time that they have ever contemplated Linux as a gaming platform.

    The game rocks. I'm your humble servant!

    1. Re:Thank you idSoftware! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Linux as a gaming platform." Hehe, now there's a contradiction in terms. I'm sure everyone wants a broken and substandard DRI running their games on a platform with next to no commercial support.

    2. Re:Thank you idSoftware! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nvidia cards are the unquestionably the best 3D performers, have linux drivers, and they don't use DRI.
      You can grab a gforce2MX for like 80 bucks and pull down drivers from nvidia's site.

  32. Re:well, i dont blame him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i mean, watching thousands of people you dont know
    die on tv has got to be hard on a guy, and what
    better way to deal with ones problems
    than jerking off to queen amidala?

    maybe this is why he kept the banner ads up all through the
    week. even though every major news network
    had no commercials, even MTV. a hell of alot of websites didnt either.
    but seeing as how he was passed out on the toilet, i guess
    i can understand why he didnt take down the banner ads.

  33. you troll poser! you spelled kuro5hin wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how the fuck can i respect your ass?
    you are nothing but an uncle-moderator.
    you bastard.

  34. network firewall issues by brer_rabbit · · Score: 2
    anyone know specifically what ipchains rules are necessary to play this? I constructed my firewall from Rob Ziegler's site. With this firewall and ip masquerading I can't play RTCW over the net unless I bring the firewall down first.

    I suspect it might be linked to the fact that RTCW seems to request both the server port (which is normal) and a specific client port (which is rare). Ie- port 27960 on both client and server. This might be interferring with ip masquerading. I'm not sure. Anyone get it going?

    1. Re:network firewall issues by r1ckt3r · · Score: 1

      I had no problems playing multiplayer on the internet and I made no changes to my linux firewall to do it. I did encounter problems with my windows copy of it, but I think that was XP-related. Linux binaries worked like a dream for me. I deny all packets by default, so I'm not sure what would be causing your problem.

    2. Re:network firewall issues by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      Hmm, my firewall never had an issue. I'm running the quake helper, and its a 2.2.x based firewall. Hmm, have you tried trinity os firewall (see if you can find just the firewall script, the rest of their stuff is kinda annoying) If you can't find it, email me, I'll give you a copy.

    3. Re:network firewall issues by Seanasy · · Score: 3, Informative

      The lameness filter won't let me post it here. I've put the necessary changes to your firewall script here. I used the same tool to generate my ipchains firewall and added this. I can play Quake3 and Wolf MP test just fine.

    4. Re:network firewall issues by brer_rabbit · · Score: 1

      thanks, I appreciate it. I swear I've tried something similar (ie- unblocking tcp/udp from 27940-60) but I'll give this a shot.

  35. Quit yer cryin you fat babies by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

    I've been playing this game using WineX for days now. With the latest CVS they fixed the .05 second sound delay, and it's a welcome improvement.

    Get your ass over to www.transgaming.com, download the source, build and install it, then play one of the best games of the year.

    See you in the trenches!

  36. Re:yes but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John? Who's John?

  37. Do what I did... by laserjet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hey everyone,

    Do what I did (if you are a RtCW gamer). It takes less than 5 minues, and you will feel good about it.

    Go to their web site. Go to the "Contact" page, and send them an email thanking them for their contribution. I know if I was a developer, and I got a few emails saying thanks, it would really be a nice thing. So, say thank-you from the Linux community. They didn't have to do this, they chose to.

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    1. Re:Do what I did... by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 1

      Do you know what speaks louder than that... Go to Tuxgames, and pre-order the Linux version of RTCW. Actually it's the Win32 version bundled with a Linux Binary CD.

      Money talks and bullshit walks.

      But dropping an email would be nice too. ;)

      --
      "It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it."
  38. Re:yes but by MindStalker · · Score: 1

    I'm john!
    See see!! look at my email address!

  39. Help! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read your suggestion and poured White Zinfadel on my CD. It doesn't work now. Should I have used a red?

  40. Re:Ich Bein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I haven't heard the latest wolfenstein sounds, but I fondly remember how we in Germany had to laugh at the Nazi sounds with the fat american accent in Wolf3D: "Halt! wer da?" hahahahaah

    Believe me, it wouldn't be the same with German speakers ;-).

  41. what about FreeBSD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it run under FreeBSD? It would be nice
    to have a native binary, but if not, has anyone
    tried it under emulation?

  42. Pocket Wolf 3D by The_Pey · · Score: 1

    Now you can play it on the road too - Wolf 3D has been ported to the PocketPC!

    http://www.pocketgamer.org/archives/00000574.shtml

    The binaries for ARM devices will be released tomorrow

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  43. RTCW and WineX by gatesh8r · · Score: 1

    According to various reports, RTCW works in WineX quite well (a 4 out of 5, which means that probably is some *minor* at worst irritants. This is also the same rating as a lot of good games such as Diablo II.) This off of transgaming's site... of course, YMMV.

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  44. Typical Slashdot Editors by Zalgon+26+McGee · · Score: 1

    Header on this story:

    Wolfenstein Linux Binaries Available
    Posted by michael on 06:11 AM November 29th, 2001
    from the chaingun-goodness dept.

    From my submission queue:

    2001-11-28 21:40:39 Linux Binaries for RTCW available now! (articles,games) (rejected)

    ...you'd think I'd be used to it by now...

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  45. Re:A serious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    L-fucking-O-L man. Thats all I gotsta say.

  46. mirror by KalvinB · · Score: 1
  47. Improving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Durring = during
    initital = initial
    Be happy they changed there minds. = THEIR, come on now!
    barly = barely
    There installation program = THEIR!

    Now you really should be proud of yourself, all of those mistakes (except for misuse of there) could be considered typos instead of bad spelling.

  48. Re:Ich Bein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sie fucking Sohn eines Weibchens.
    We germans love zee german accent.

  49. Thats amazing by Fembot · · Score: 0

    Us mortals in the UK didnt get the full game until today, and when i did get it so far all ive managed to get to work is this linux multiplayer binaries (windows ones just freeze with grey screen)

  50. that's not the point of junkibuster by hawk · · Score: 2
    > people are willing to go to great lengths to give nothing back to
    > the creators, installing junkbuster or even no longer going to certain
    > sites that have ads.


    I don't believe I've ever blocked an ad that didn't blink at me first. When my 200mhz K6, a fairly fast machine at the time, was brought to its knees by javing two (2) web pages open at the same time (java disabled), I put in junkbuster. Now it's just habit bo block anything that blinks at me.


    hawk

    1. Re:that's not the point of junkibuster by Evro · · Score: 1

      Well, that's fine, but I tend to think situations like the one you described are more the exception than the rule.

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