Ok just realize that glasscode's license only allows it for non commercial use. I can't find a link to the license but I read the FAQ a few days ago unfortunatly from another computer that I can't access the history off of. Its an interesting moderation system, I just wonder how well it could stand up to THe slashdot crowd
Well it could be done, but there are two problems,
X is a standard. There are alot of programs written for it. Many people are used to it.
Their is not GUI, to my knowledge at least, that implements the client/server model the way X does. No gui offers seemless app running across a network. Now many of 31337 h4X0rz that read slashdot would be perfectly happy if such a GUI had a terminal emulator to run ssh from, another portion of the slashdot community wants to be abe to check their mail using netscape from any computer that runs X. This is perhaps a bad example, but I'mn sure others can think of better, and if not then perhaps this GTK frame buffer thing will take over
Uh, I gotta believe the theories that Corel is gonna do the whole port >NET to Linux thing. It would be Microsofts best Stragedy. Implement a java-bytecode like standard, make it multi platform, and bam It dosen't matter what OS your running. IT managers will eat it up. System administrators will implement it to get rid of NT. Finally all the distros will include it in there distro just like every gee-golly app for Linux. All MS has to do is port office to it and perhaps scrap Outlook and do some kind of groupware thing. Add a few binary only modules to the kernel to increase.Nets effeciency and boom you got embrace and extend. Then we just wait for extinguish. Of course What MS dosen't realize is the Whole Linux thing was engineered to distract MS from the real Threat, BSD.
But what about Debian and Slackware, you say?
Well what about the BSD server market. Many former members of the.01% switch over to the daemon side of the source. Many servers run BSD. While Microsoft is fighting off TUX and his legion of open source mascots, BOFHs will set up OpenBSD routers anf FreeBSD File/app/web servers, and use NetBSD to outomate their toasters. This will be done without Microsoft, and in some cases, the BOFHs managers knowledge.
I'd like to see the output of a nessus run on your machine. And Don't forget ISPs don't have the liberty of locking down every damn service on every damn server. When your got hundreds of servers/touter,etc sometimes you gotta use NFS for backups and its hard to keep up to date with every security update. Most boxes are rootable if you have the skill,etc. Even OpenBSD is not perfect. There was the problem that the dhcp client could be taken advantage by a malacious dhcp server. Not with the mass od this DDoS attack, whoever's behind it has to be releatively knowledgable. Any script kiddie that tried to root enough boxes to pull that off with prepackaged root kits would probally have been caught by now.
So that's our solution? We run them into the ground?
Consider the following:
Most people will buy a few Games for Dreamcast even if they run (NetBSD || Linux VMS || OS/2 Warp) on it. Whats the max resolution on the damn machine 500x375 if you use SVHS cables, or is there a VGA option that lets you hook it up to a monitor for 640x480. Sure it will run console apps fine and maybe X eventually, but who is gonna but one of these as use it as a server
Manufacturing costs will go down for them so eventually they can make a profit at its current selling price.
Nobody's forcing them to keep the price this cheap. If this NetBSD port gets popular enough that thousands of people will buy dreamcast burn a NetBSD Dreamcast CD and never ever buy another Sega product they can do just that. Mail in rebates for buying games is also feasiable.
What I'm waiting for is NetBSD on Playstation II along with a SCSI driver for the SCSI bus on it. That'll create enough itches to get IP over SCSI working and then I can use Playstation II for a cheap software raid file server.
I gotta say Slacks limited package management is a blessing and curse at the same time. While making RPMs can be a bitch, thought I never tried the perl scripts that automate the task, Its easy to do./configure --profix=/foo/usr && make && make install && cd/foo && installpkg -m package-name. Althought I personally find myself never reusing binary packages I make myself because my SLKack boxes are modded to the point of being built from scratc and every time I upgrade Glibc or GCC I damn neafr recompile everything just to make sure everything is optimixed to hell. Well minus the kernel which has its own library and the like so I only do that with new GCC releases. Every once in a while though I like to check out pgcc. But then again I'm just a nutjob.
What exactly would the legitimate purpose of a port scan be?
I port scan my own machines all the time. Its the easiest way to do a quicks checkup. If sshd crashes, not that it ever has just an example, it will still respond to pings. Its also the easiest way to check for trojans such as back orifice. I've portscanned a network of my machines from a machine on a different network, as well as doing a complete Nessus checkup. While its true that assuming they don't get special routers to analize every packet that goes through the network your only problem is scanning networks your not authorized to portscan, arbitrary enforcement of this clause could be used to ban users that are undesireable for one reason or another.
Dsniff can be used by u17r4 37337 h4X0r5 to make scr1pts that the k1dd135 can use to do simple local attacks. Once they 0wn3d a router they can download said 5cr1pt and 0wn all the un1x b0x35 on the subnet that have users stupid enough to accept the new keys.
Well it depends on the state of the ice cream. Ultra hard fork is best but you'll find that at optimum levels of consumption temperature chop sticks become better for the task.
Of course comparing forks to notepad is unfair. A better analogy would be that chop sticks are like real vi, or vim in vi compatability mode, forks are like one of those notepad replacements that are worth the 20 bucks to register and sporks are like emacs in all its glory with the built in tetris game.
Chop sticks are far superior. Forks are like notepad. Very easy to learn how to use, however not that versatile. Chop sticks, on the other hand are very versitile instruments. They can be used to eat ice cream, certain soups and for catching flys. They can be compared to an advanced text editor like vi or emacs. Not very easy to learn how to use, but very versatile when properly weilded
Could it be that the beautiful modular, abstract and machine-independent OS that looked great on paper didn't work so well in practise?
Or could it be that Bill didn't want to invade the big boys turf? Sure sounds like a karma whore consperiacy theory at first, but think about it for a minute. NT squashed out netware initially as well as the nich OS/2 warp server and i386 Un*x markets. Markets he could handle at the time. It made sense to market it as using a Microsoft server OS for Microsoft clients. Managers bought it. Had a multi platform mature server OS been marketed it would invade the markets of VMS and Solaris. They would then fight back by either marketing their current Server/Xterminal envirorment towards microsoft shops or entering the low end server market. All that was needed was for them to make a free Windows NFS client. Bill didn't want to wake those giants yet.
How many licenses do you have to forgo paying for to save enough money to hire a "team to to support it"?
Well lets just assume for a minute that you keep your staff the same size. Now instead you start hiring admins with programming experience. Now support contracts are going to be about the same cost. But now when the admin is getting core dumps and the like he can start fixing the problem himself. Obvisiously support calls will still have to be made but overall the number of support calls will be reduced.
Now since most admins have programming experience the increase in cost is not going be more than 2k a person assuming you already hire compentent admins.
Well the kernel will be free along with most of the software. However, media player won't be when they port that. Ditto for IE. Also, if they stick single platform they'll probally write some x86 machine language replacements for the shell utilities that will be closed source. They could also write a closed source kernel from scratch that implements the linux api and runs linux elf and a.out binaries. Sure this is worse case senario, but who cares. Personally if I was Microsoft I'd add the Windows api to FreeBSD and sell that.
Is it because it takes longer, so you get more exposure to the product?
Well a gui might be better for initial setup, but once you are profecient its easier to write text based config files. With text based config files you can write a gui to configure it. Swat for samba is the best example. Text based config files are easier to backup as well.
It is true that the main reason for haveing better knowledge of a program through editing config files is partly due to increased time learning how the config files work. However, the long term benifit in ability to diagnose and fix problems is usually well worth it. My general knowlegde of SNB/CIFS was greatly increased when I setup SAMBA as a PDC. Yes I did invest alot of time in reading online docs as well as the Oreilly book, but I now can very quickly diagnose and fix SAMBA as well as SMB problems on Windows boxes. Editing apache files by hand may take more time initially, but in the long run the ability to fine tune and secure the server will benifit the admin in the long run.
I currently run RedHat on my LX, but will switch to SuSe when its available and I have the time. Hardware support is great in Linux except it can't handle scsi hard drives without BIOS's.
Are you sure that open won't install on your box. Im many cases ide/hard drive problems are solved by writeing down what the kernel reported for hard drive cylinder/head/etc information and manuallhy inputting that into diskedit. Assuming that this is an x86 or alpha you should consider FreeBSD though.
How often do you really remote?
Almost every day I'm using X. I'll admit X has its flaws with rendering, fonts, and the like but I'd never give up X networking support. Mabey X needs to be scrapped or reimplemented from scratch for other reasons, but the client sever model is great. I'm often forced to use NT machines but because of ssh and Xwin-32 in multi window mode I can run Xterms, windows apps and Xbill side by side.
Personally, I'd rather wait for a release and know the code has been tested and is done right.
I think that this version of the kernel is "done right." Most of the development now is centered around fixing bugs. When it comes out it is going to be a very stable peice of software. I'd personally ship one of the test kernels in a linux distro aimed at high end machines. I'd definatly do it before I put in an unstable compiler that wouldn't compile the kernel like Redhat did with 7.0. I personally wouldn't use such a distrobution, but many others would. 2.4.0 will be a very stable kernel. 2.2 will still be used on slower machines due to optimizations favoring new chips especially in the x86 architecture. 2.5 will probally go through some very active development early on if Linus can come to agreements with Hans reiser, and integrate other patches into the kernel. Hopefully when they are tested they will be backported as official.
Suse 7.0 will soon be available for sparcs if it is not already. Suse comes with beowulf and pvmake. I cannot comment on how good it will be. At the moment I'd stick with Redhat 6.1 and install the clustering rpms from srpms. See if they build.
I expect my politicians to fscking personalize their answers. There's a big difference between "pandering" and "personalizing".
Oh and what if Gore's people find this and report Bush's personalized answers on copyright. That could get him in a lot of trouble with RIAA and such.
Donations for tax breaks don't count.
Uh I hate to tell you this but the whole reason for tax breaks and inheritance taxes is to encourage the rich to have there little charities. Lets face it the rich are greedy, thats how they get rich in the first place.
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Ok just realize that glasscode's license only allows it for non commercial use. I can't find a link to the license but I read the FAQ a few days ago unfortunatly from another computer that I can't access the history off of. Its an interesting moderation system, I just wonder how well it could stand up to THe slashdot crowd
Uh, I gotta believe the theories that Corel is gonna do the whole port >NET to Linux thing. It would be Microsofts best Stragedy. Implement a java-bytecode like standard, make it multi platform, and bam It dosen't matter what OS your running. IT managers will eat it up. System administrators will implement it to get rid of NT. Finally all the distros will include it in there distro just like every gee-golly app for Linux. All MS has to do is port office to it and perhaps scrap Outlook and do some kind of groupware thing. Add a few binary only modules to the kernel to increase .Nets effeciency and boom you got embrace and extend. Then we just wait for extinguish. Of course What MS dosen't realize is the Whole Linux thing was engineered to distract MS from the real Threat, BSD.
But what about Debian and Slackware, you say? .01% switch over to the daemon side of the source. Many servers run BSD. While Microsoft is fighting off TUX and his legion of open source mascots, BOFHs will set up OpenBSD routers anf FreeBSD File/app/web servers, and use NetBSD to outomate their toasters. This will be done without Microsoft, and in some cases, the BOFHs managers knowledge.
Well what about the BSD server market. Many former members of the
I'd like to see the output of a nessus run on your machine. And Don't forget ISPs don't have the liberty of locking down every damn service on every damn server. When your got hundreds of servers/touter,etc sometimes you gotta use NFS for backups and its hard to keep up to date with every security update. Most boxes are rootable if you have the skill,etc. Even OpenBSD is not perfect. There was the problem that the dhcp client could be taken advantage by a malacious dhcp server. Not with the mass od this DDoS attack, whoever's behind it has to be releatively knowledgable. Any script kiddie that tried to root enough boxes to pull that off with prepackaged root kits would probally have been caught by now.
Consider the following:
- Most people will buy a few Games for Dreamcast even if they run (NetBSD || Linux VMS || OS/2 Warp) on it. Whats the max resolution on the damn machine 500x375 if you use SVHS cables, or is there a VGA option that lets you hook it up to a monitor for 640x480. Sure it will run console apps fine and maybe X eventually, but who is gonna but one of these as use it as a server
- Manufacturing costs will go down for them so eventually they can make a profit at its current selling price.
- Nobody's forcing them to keep the price this cheap. If this NetBSD port gets popular enough that thousands of people will buy dreamcast burn a NetBSD Dreamcast CD and never ever buy another Sega product they can do just that. Mail in rebates for buying games is also feasiable.
What I'm waiting for is NetBSD on Playstation II along with a SCSI driver for the SCSI bus on it. That'll create enough itches to get IP over SCSI working and then I can use Playstation II for a cheap software raid file server.Alanis was god
Why a A Canadian I must ask. That was the only part of the movie that offended me as a practicing Catholic.
I gotta say Slacks limited package management is a blessing and curse at the same time. While making RPMs can be a bitch, thought I never tried the perl scripts that automate the task, Its easy to do ./configure --profix=/foo/usr && make && make install && cd /foo && installpkg -m package-name. Althought I personally find myself never reusing binary packages I make myself because my SLKack boxes are modded to the point of being built from scratc and every time I upgrade Glibc or GCC I damn neafr recompile everything just to make sure everything is optimixed to hell. Well minus the kernel which has its own library and the like so I only do that with new GCC releases. Every once in a while though I like to check out pgcc. But then again I'm just a nutjob.
it was implanted in the ground
What exactly would the legitimate purpose of a port scan be?
I port scan my own machines all the time. Its the easiest way to do a quicks checkup. If sshd crashes, not that it ever has just an example, it will still respond to pings. Its also the easiest way to check for trojans such as back orifice. I've portscanned a network of my machines from a machine on a different network, as well as doing a complete Nessus checkup. While its true that assuming they don't get special routers to analize every packet that goes through the network your only problem is scanning networks your not authorized to portscan, arbitrary enforcement of this clause could be used to ban users that are undesireable for one reason or another.
Dsniff can be used by u17r4 37337 h4X0r5 to make scr1pts that the k1dd135 can use to do simple local attacks. Once they 0wn3d a router they can download said 5cr1pt and 0wn all the un1x b0x35 on the subnet that have users stupid enough to accept the new keys.
Uh MP3's are better than cassette-quality. The bitrate is higher. Its just a matter of lost frequencies.
Well it depends on the state of the ice cream. Ultra hard fork is best but you'll find that at optimum levels of consumption temperature chop sticks become better for the task.
Of course comparing forks to notepad is unfair. A better analogy would be that chop sticks are like real vi, or vim in vi compatability mode, forks are like one of those notepad replacements that are worth the 20 bucks to register and sporks are like emacs in all its glory with the built in tetris game.
Chop sticks are far superior. Forks are like notepad. Very easy to learn how to use, however not that versatile. Chop sticks, on the other hand are very versitile instruments. They can be used to eat ice cream, certain soups and for catching flys. They can be compared to an advanced text editor like vi or emacs. Not very easy to learn how to use, but very versatile when properly weilded
Could it be that the beautiful modular, abstract and machine-independent OS that looked great on paper didn't work so well in practise?
Or could it be that Bill didn't want to invade the big boys turf? Sure sounds like a karma whore consperiacy theory at first, but think about it for a minute. NT squashed out netware initially as well as the nich OS/2 warp server and i386 Un*x markets. Markets he could handle at the time. It made sense to market it as using a Microsoft server OS for Microsoft clients. Managers bought it. Had a multi platform mature server OS been marketed it would invade the markets of VMS and Solaris. They would then fight back by either marketing their current Server/Xterminal envirorment towards microsoft shops or entering the low end server market. All that was needed was for them to make a free Windows NFS client. Bill didn't want to wake those giants yet.
How many licenses do you have to forgo paying for to save enough money to hire a "team to to support it"?
Well lets just assume for a minute that you keep your staff the same size. Now instead you start hiring admins with programming experience. Now support contracts are going to be about the same cost. But now when the admin is getting core dumps and the like he can start fixing the problem himself. Obvisiously support calls will still have to be made but overall the number of support calls will be reduced.
Now since most admins have programming experience the increase in cost is not going be more than 2k a person assuming you already hire compentent admins.
Well the kernel will be free along with most of the software. However, media player won't be when they port that. Ditto for IE. Also, if they stick single platform they'll probally write some x86 machine language replacements for the shell utilities that will be closed source. They could also write a closed source kernel from scratch that implements the linux api and runs linux elf and a.out binaries. Sure this is worse case senario, but who cares. Personally if I was Microsoft I'd add the Windows api to FreeBSD and sell that.
Is it because it takes longer, so you get more exposure to the product?
Well a gui might be better for initial setup, but once you are profecient its easier to write text based config files. With text based config files you can write a gui to configure it. Swat for samba is the best example. Text based config files are easier to backup as well.
It is true that the main reason for haveing better knowledge of a program through editing config files is partly due to increased time learning how the config files work. However, the long term benifit in ability to diagnose and fix problems is usually well worth it. My general knowlegde of SNB/CIFS was greatly increased when I setup SAMBA as a PDC. Yes I did invest alot of time in reading online docs as well as the Oreilly book, but I now can very quickly diagnose and fix SAMBA as well as SMB problems on Windows boxes. Editing apache files by hand may take more time initially, but in the long run the ability to fine tune and secure the server will benifit the admin in the long run.
I currently run RedHat on my LX, but will switch to SuSe when its available and I have the time. Hardware support is great in Linux except it can't handle scsi hard drives without BIOS's.
Are you sure that open won't install on your box. Im many cases ide/hard drive problems are solved by writeing down what the kernel reported for hard drive cylinder/head/etc information and manuallhy inputting that into diskedit. Assuming that this is an x86 or alpha you should consider FreeBSD though.
How often do you really remote?
Almost every day I'm using X. I'll admit X has its flaws with rendering, fonts, and the like but I'd never give up X networking support. Mabey X needs to be scrapped or reimplemented from scratch for other reasons, but the client sever model is great. I'm often forced to use NT machines but because of ssh and Xwin-32 in multi window mode I can run Xterms, windows apps and Xbill side by side.
Personally, I'd rather wait for a release and know the code has been tested and is done right.
I think that this version of the kernel is "done right." Most of the development now is centered around fixing bugs. When it comes out it is going to be a very stable peice of software. I'd personally ship one of the test kernels in a linux distro aimed at high end machines. I'd definatly do it before I put in an unstable compiler that wouldn't compile the kernel like Redhat did with 7.0. I personally wouldn't use such a distrobution, but many others would. 2.4.0 will be a very stable kernel. 2.2 will still be used on slower machines due to optimizations favoring new chips especially in the x86 architecture. 2.5 will probally go through some very active development early on if Linus can come to agreements with Hans reiser, and integrate other patches into the kernel. Hopefully when they are tested they will be backported as official.
Suse 7.0 will soon be available for sparcs if it is not already. Suse comes with beowulf and pvmake. I cannot comment on how good it will be. At the moment I'd stick with Redhat 6.1 and install the clustering rpms from srpms. See if they build.
I expect my politicians to fscking personalize their answers. There's a big difference between "pandering" and "personalizing".
Oh and what if Gore's people find this and report Bush's personalized answers on copyright. That could get him in a lot of trouble with RIAA and such.
Donations for tax breaks don't count.
Uh I hate to tell you this but the whole reason for tax breaks and inheritance taxes is to encourage the rich to have there little charities. Lets face it the rich are greedy, thats how they get rich in the first place.