I HATE MSDN! . . .
it just makes ever thing so much harder then it needs to be
It depends on the tasks. I think the website layout could improve a bit. Is that your problem? Want more examples? Contribute them yourself, there's a community content section. I will admit that Microsoft is slow to take user feedback. I had to wait months for a response to an error I pointed out in the documentation. What tasks are you having trouble with? I will admit that their website is not designed to make it easy to figure out how to do obtuse things, such as adding a cab file to the ActiveSync add/remove files menu, but all documentation is lacking in certain obtuse areas.
What Microsoft does lack is they don't "get" open source. When you are scratching your own itch, and have critical mass, you are usually responsive enough to patches and bug reports where the user practically wrote the patch. They tend to be somewhat non-responsive. It seems to be due to the developers not having the time to dedicate to these projects.
Part of the problem is they have to be very gatekeeperish about their project. For whatever reason, we have to accept as a given that non Microsoft Employees will never get commit access to any open source projects. I think if they could change this aspect of their open source projects, it would impact their whole corporate culture in positive ways.
What do you define as "the rest." I'll accept functional programming is this great thing for some reason many people (including me) never adopted. But I think object oriented programming is greater than procedural programming in most cases. C is nice when you need it. Then again C# lets me call a DLL I wrote in C, or lets me turn off garbage collection. They even wrote an OS in it.
I don't think C# s the end all to everything. However, I think.NET was done right in many way. I also think F# is the next step in that "done right" thing. I think.NET is just the herald of something better, probably not from Microsoft. But that successor will also have a better successor.
If you want to sell a company at Auction, there's already 3, well-regulated, well-defined places to do it at - The New York Stock Exchange, The Nasdaq Stock Exchange, and the American Stock Exchange.
Seriously, how is selling a company at auction an interesting experiment? They've been doing it for hundreds of years.
Because the sort of transaction we are talking about here (selling a large majority stake in one transaction to a known buyer) is exactly the sort of transaction one wants to do "off the market"
Turns out that grandma had her late husband's rifle and she shot all of them... best line, was, the daughter yelling out..."oh my grandma, did you shoot him again...." "teach that F---- to break into my house." At least 50% of the USA thinks that that is awesome.
What would be an appropriate action against someone threatening my property?
When has MS ever seen extra capacity and said to themselves that those cycles belong to the customer?
Like the linux kernel developers are any better...every OS maker is greedy about increased CPU power. I first ran Linux in 1995 and it isn't that much faster now.
I just use WindowMaker as my desktop and turn off all the services I don't want. Its quite fast for me.
Or investing in a bit aftershave, a bath, some flowers, and marrying a carpenter?
I thought the females in construction were all concrete masons and electricians. That is those that aren't "laborers" that get to wave the flag for $35 an hour since they take such good care of the foreman's flagpole.
One would think YouTube would know by now. They do have to walk a fine line, since they need to keep the content owners happy in order to continue operating, but since when is a religion protected content? I'd love to see someone file a countersuit.
I'm not sure of the details, but the church of scientology holds copyrights and trademarks on all its "works." It does this to prevent unauthorized usage of them. Its content is no more or less protected than that of an individual or corporation.
The term "self-taught professional" is an oxymoron. How would you feel if you were going in for major, life-saving, high-risk surgery and just before they put you under they told you that your surgeon was "self-taught"? If I had a dollar for every mess that I had to clean up that was orginally made by a "self-taught professional", I could have retired by age 35. If organizing would eliminate some of the self proclaimed professional and have some sort of vetting or apprenticeship process like a trade union, I'm all for it.
I can teach myself most computer related skills without killing anyone. This is exactly what I did. The unfinished CS degree helped a bit, but I could have taught myself algorithms. Naturally, my older work sucked more than my newer work, but these days I clean up the messes of others, both with and without degrees.
Now, I am for a more formal apprenticeship model, but I think that's for those with and without degrees. Most of the problems I see "in industry" are process problems, not CS problems. People writing sloppy code, not using version control. People not taking the time to create a proper table schema with foreign keys. None of these are knowledge problems. People just have to do those things automatically because long ago some old geezer told them to always do it.
You obviously haven't seen most of the IT women I work with. Thanks, but no.
Well if their overweight, then a corset would make them look more feminine. Now you still might not find them attractive, but they would be more feminine. Also, one could wear a corset and still dress modestly. If a female coworker you find unattractive will wear a corset and a xena outfit as opposed to a maiden's dress, she probably tends to dress revealingly in any form of clothing.
Now if their petite (read really skinny no ass no boobs) a corset would do little to enhance their figure. So it would be a waste.
One reason we moan about lawyers is the artificially protected fees. For simple filings the level of knowledge "should cost" some $50 an hour tops, and small cases could escape under a grand.
Then Orgs. like the RIAA reverse-leverage this fact to pull their copyright stunts.
That could actually be accomplished if the paralegals got together and formed their own organization. That, or their was something like a nurse practitioner for paralegals to achieve via more apprenticeship/less schooling than the traditional law school model.
You suggest we throw away his talent and potential because we already lost someone else's talent and potential? That makes no sense at all.
Maybe he did something so bad, he must be punished, even if that punishes society as a whole. Some actions are so bad they must be punished, no matter the cost to the rest of society. I'd love to see him make a better file system, but its more important that star programmers know they can't get away with murder. If I could get away with murder on account of programming talent, there would be a few less people in the world.
If a middle aged woman with no weapon threatens you, *and you feel threatened*, it's time to hit the weight room, take a martial arts course, and probably both and more.
Its more of a socital problem. I'd be afraid of said woman from a legal standpoint because; 1)The law rightfully gives her the benefit of the doubt since its her home, 2) self defense is hard to argue these days, and 3) the whole cultural aspects of threatening force against a girl, even if its in defense.
Work sucks and there are always alternatives to it.
Well I am sorry you feel that way, some people like their jobs. In my sort time in the work force I've had bosses, clients, coworkers, and specific tasks I hated. But I've usually loved my job. Of course I never hated all those things at the same time and I've usually liked the majority of my tasks.
Travel is nice, and if that is what one desires to do in retirement then so be it. However, its not a better option than working by choice, just a different one.
Except perhaps that people living in cities know how to get along with other people better than the welfare queens living in Federally subsidized landscapes.
I wish NYC would let me have a gun to prove I can get along with other people enough not to shoot anyone that doesn't break into my home or attack me.
I'm not interested in winning support on the basis of my friendly demeanor. I don't have one. I'm interested in supporting individuals by providing them practical infrastructures that allow them to walk away from their feudal masters, and I'm good at it.
You cannot change human behavior. However you design any system of control, or purposeful decentralized control, people will listen to those above them. Checks and balances will be put into play, but they eventually become abused.
That being said, I'm all for radical departure from copyright law. One can still support open source software, and perhaps up to a few years ago the FSF, and be a capitalist. Some people, like me, are really good at producing things, but bad at the marketing/selling/etc of them. We are better of working for feudal lords than ourselves, because we just are no good dealing directly with clients.
I screwed up the tense of that verb, I apologize. Does this honestly bother you? If it does, I can sympathize with you, in that I am super anal about the formatting of source code. I get almost visibly upset when I see indention that doesn't line up or a function ending and a new one beginning with no white space in between.
However, realize the following. You are probably very talented at applying the rules of grammar, as well as noticing them. Now, I could write off this mistake on my part by saying, "well the pronunciation of the singular and plural form of capitalist(s) is so similar I must ave missed it while proofreading it." However, you probably could find another mistake in my writing that I could not as easily justify.
Now since you are honestly talented at this sort of thing, I recommend you spend some time cleaning up Wikipedia or some open source software documentation. Your efforts will be appreciated there.
As you say, there are unforseen consequences - but consequences aren't always bad (as you seem to think). Would it really be that bad to have india gain the type of growth and power that the USA now holds? It is only bad for the USA.
Actually, India gaining the sort of power we had would be a good thing. They would generally ignore us, and if we could sit back and watch China get its ass kicked and eventually become democratic, I would enjoy it. Yes China is becoming quite capitalistic by itself, but unless the Olympics bring about real change (which I would very much like) its not becoming very democratic.
Although I wonder how India's strict immigration policy's will be effected if people started to want to go their to improve their lives.
I don't have a life savings. I don't trust economies or currencies and I don't like participating in modern capitalism, so I don't keep large amounts of liquidity or financial investments.
Your participating in modern capitalism whetherr you like it or not, just like I participate in modern socialism and modern communism to the extent that its implemented by my country and the countries that make the goods I buy. I'm not sure how you can't trust economies in general. Where there are people there is commerce, in the general sense of the word. Where there is commerce there is an economy. The Creative Commons is simply a different form of commerce and a different form of economy.
But I have been investing years of my effort and surplus income into creating an industry specific infrastructure to support artists who release Creative Commons so there will be alternatives to copyright available for people to turn to.
So your participating in the economy, following its rules very traditional ways in an effort to change it?
And of course, once it's ready and live, I'll release the technological advances I've made to the community. If you want more details, you'll have to wait till I'm ready to handle the load of a slashdotting. But I put my time and money where my mouth is, and I always have. So, fuck off.
Personally I always tend towards the "announce the creation of the svn repo," as opposed to, "big secret until I deliver a finished product," but I understand the logic of the "TADA" release. That being said, saying, "I have something. It will be big, but I can't show it to you yet. Fuck off." will not win you any support. That being said I wish you luck and hope you do change the world. I am a die hard capitalists, but I don't think the current model of artificial scarcity with "intellectual property" is ideal.
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I HATE MSDN! . . . it just makes ever thing so much harder then it needs to be
It depends on the tasks. I think the website layout could improve a bit. Is that your problem? Want more examples? Contribute them yourself, there's a community content section. I will admit that Microsoft is slow to take user feedback. I had to wait months for a response to an error I pointed out in the documentation. What tasks are you having trouble with? I will admit that their website is not designed to make it easy to figure out how to do obtuse things, such as adding a cab file to the ActiveSync add/remove files menu, but all documentation is lacking in certain obtuse areas.
What Microsoft does lack is they don't "get" open source. When you are scratching your own itch, and have critical mass, you are usually responsive enough to patches and bug reports where the user practically wrote the patch. They tend to be somewhat non-responsive. It seems to be due to the developers not having the time to dedicate to these projects.
Part of the problem is they have to be very gatekeeperish about their project. For whatever reason, we have to accept as a given that non Microsoft Employees will never get commit access to any open source projects. I think if they could change this aspect of their open source projects, it would impact their whole corporate culture in positive ways.
Another Universal rule:
Functional Programming >>> {The Rest} >>> Object Oriented Programming
What do you define as "the rest." I'll accept functional programming is this great thing for some reason many people (including me) never adopted. But I think object oriented programming is greater than procedural programming in most cases. C is nice when you need it. Then again C# lets me call a DLL I wrote in C, or lets me turn off garbage collection. They even wrote an OS in it.
I don't think C# s the end all to everything. However, I think .NET was done right in many way. I also think F# is the next step in that "done right" thing. I think .NET is just the herald of something better, probably not from Microsoft. But that successor will also have a better successor.
Mean? Way off-topic but can someone explain to me how cunt is any worse than, for example, dick or ass?
Women get offended more easily.
If you want to sell a company at Auction, there's already 3, well-regulated, well-defined places to do it at - The New York Stock Exchange, The Nasdaq Stock Exchange, and the American Stock Exchange.
Seriously, how is selling a company at auction an interesting experiment? They've been doing it for hundreds of years.
Because the sort of transaction we are talking about here (selling a large majority stake in one transaction to a known buyer) is exactly the sort of transaction one wants to do "off the market"
Seriously, it would be an interesting experiment, to auction it publicly.
Turns out that grandma had her late husband's rifle and she shot all of them... best line, was, the daughter yelling out..."oh my grandma, did you shoot him again...." "teach that F---- to break into my house." At least 50% of the USA thinks that that is awesome.
What would be an appropriate action against someone threatening my property?
When has MS ever seen extra capacity and said to themselves that those cycles belong to the customer? Like the linux kernel developers are any better...every OS maker is greedy about increased CPU power. I first ran Linux in 1995 and it isn't that much faster now.
I just use WindowMaker as my desktop and turn off all the services I don't want. Its quite fast for me.
Well this is slashdot, so yeah a female needing aftershave would make sense.
Or investing in a bit aftershave, a bath, some flowers, and marrying a carpenter?
I thought the females in construction were all concrete masons and electricians. That is those that aren't "laborers" that get to wave the flag for $35 an hour since they take such good care of the foreman's flagpole.
For reasons I do not understand, Xenu and clan seem immune to reaping the consequences of their actions.
Scientology: The Teflon Religion
They just have lots of lawyers and money.
One would think YouTube would know by now. They do have to walk a fine line, since they need to keep the content owners happy in order to continue operating, but since when is a religion protected content? I'd love to see someone file a countersuit.
I'm not sure of the details, but the church of scientology holds copyrights and trademarks on all its "works." It does this to prevent unauthorized usage of them. Its content is no more or less protected than that of an individual or corporation.
The term "self-taught professional" is an oxymoron. How would you feel if you were going in for major, life-saving, high-risk surgery and just before they put you under they told you that your surgeon was "self-taught"? If I had a dollar for every mess that I had to clean up that was orginally made by a "self-taught professional", I could have retired by age 35. If organizing would eliminate some of the self proclaimed professional and have some sort of vetting or apprenticeship process like a trade union, I'm all for it.
I can teach myself most computer related skills without killing anyone. This is exactly what I did. The unfinished CS degree helped a bit, but I could have taught myself algorithms. Naturally, my older work sucked more than my newer work, but these days I clean up the messes of others, both with and without degrees.
Now, I am for a more formal apprenticeship model, but I think that's for those with and without degrees. Most of the problems I see "in industry" are process problems, not CS problems. People writing sloppy code, not using version control. People not taking the time to create a proper table schema with foreign keys. None of these are knowledge problems. People just have to do those things automatically because long ago some old geezer told them to always do it.
You obviously haven't seen most of the IT women I work with. Thanks, but no.
Well if their overweight, then a corset would make them look more feminine. Now you still might not find them attractive, but they would be more feminine. Also, one could wear a corset and still dress modestly. If a female coworker you find unattractive will wear a corset and a xena outfit as opposed to a maiden's dress, she probably tends to dress revealingly in any form of clothing.
Now if their petite (read really skinny no ass no boobs) a corset would do little to enhance their figure. So it would be a waste.
Bingo.
One reason we moan about lawyers is the artificially protected fees. For simple filings the level of knowledge "should cost" some $50 an hour tops, and small cases could escape under a grand.
Then Orgs. like the RIAA reverse-leverage this fact to pull their copyright stunts.
That could actually be accomplished if the paralegals got together and formed their own organization. That, or their was something like a nurse practitioner for paralegals to achieve via more apprenticeship/less schooling than the traditional law school model.
You suggest we throw away his talent and potential because we already lost someone else's talent and potential? That makes no sense at all.
Maybe he did something so bad, he must be punished, even if that punishes society as a whole. Some actions are so bad they must be punished, no matter the cost to the rest of society. I'd love to see him make a better file system, but its more important that star programmers know they can't get away with murder. If I could get away with murder on account of programming talent, there would be a few less people in the world.
If a middle aged woman with no weapon threatens you, *and you feel threatened*, it's time to hit the weight room, take a martial arts course, and probably both and more.
Its more of a socital problem. I'd be afraid of said woman from a legal standpoint because; 1)The law rightfully gives her the benefit of the doubt since its her home, 2) self defense is hard to argue these days, and 3) the whole cultural aspects of threatening force against a girl, even if its in defense.
Only on slashdot would that comment be modded both informative and insightful.
You must be female, and have little interaction with males.
Work sucks and there are always alternatives to it.
Well I am sorry you feel that way, some people like their jobs. In my sort time in the work force I've had bosses, clients, coworkers, and specific tasks I hated. But I've usually loved my job. Of course I never hated all those things at the same time and I've usually liked the majority of my tasks.
Travel is nice, and if that is what one desires to do in retirement then so be it. However, its not a better option than working by choice, just a different one.
Except perhaps that people living in cities know how to get along with other people better than the welfare queens living in Federally subsidized landscapes.
I wish NYC would let me have a gun to prove I can get along with other people enough not to shoot anyone that doesn't break into my home or attack me.
Since when is criticizing those practices political? I think it's really more sociological than political.
Jut because its not a politically divisive issue, doesn't mean its not political.
lol, and even then reality TV needs 6 people or more, plus artificial events, plus a bunch of time to produce 1 hour of entertainment.
The first couple pages did sound like an 8th grade what-I-did report at best all right.
In other words all the cheap union labor (relatively,) and none of the primma donna actors?
I'm not interested in winning support on the basis of my friendly demeanor. I don't have one. I'm interested in supporting individuals by providing them practical infrastructures that allow them to walk away from their feudal masters, and I'm good at it.
You cannot change human behavior. However you design any system of control, or purposeful decentralized control, people will listen to those above them. Checks and balances will be put into play, but they eventually become abused.
That being said, I'm all for radical departure from copyright law. One can still support open source software, and perhaps up to a few years ago the FSF, and be a capitalist. Some people, like me, are really good at producing things, but bad at the marketing/selling/etc of them. We are better of working for feudal lords than ourselves, because we just are no good dealing directly with clients.
Am you a die hard English speakers?
I screwed up the tense of that verb, I apologize. Does this honestly bother you? If it does, I can sympathize with you, in that I am super anal about the formatting of source code. I get almost visibly upset when I see indention that doesn't line up or a function ending and a new one beginning with no white space in between.
However, realize the following. You are probably very talented at applying the rules of grammar, as well as noticing them. Now, I could write off this mistake on my part by saying, "well the pronunciation of the singular and plural form of capitalist(s) is so similar I must ave missed it while proofreading it." However, you probably could find another mistake in my writing that I could not as easily justify.
Now since you are honestly talented at this sort of thing, I recommend you spend some time cleaning up Wikipedia or some open source software documentation. Your efforts will be appreciated there.
As you say, there are unforseen consequences - but consequences aren't always bad (as you seem to think). Would it really be that bad to have india gain the type of growth and power that the USA now holds? It is only bad for the USA.
Actually, India gaining the sort of power we had would be a good thing. They would generally ignore us, and if we could sit back and watch China get its ass kicked and eventually become democratic, I would enjoy it. Yes China is becoming quite capitalistic by itself, but unless the Olympics bring about real change (which I would very much like) its not becoming very democratic.
Although I wonder how India's strict immigration policy's will be effected if people started to want to go their to improve their lives.
I don't have a life savings. I don't trust economies or currencies and I don't like participating in modern capitalism, so I don't keep large amounts of liquidity or financial investments.
Your participating in modern capitalism whetherr you like it or not, just like I participate in modern socialism and modern communism to the extent that its implemented by my country and the countries that make the goods I buy. I'm not sure how you can't trust economies in general. Where there are people there is commerce, in the general sense of the word. Where there is commerce there is an economy. The Creative Commons is simply a different form of commerce and a different form of economy.
But I have been investing years of my effort and surplus income into creating an industry specific infrastructure to support artists who release Creative Commons so there will be alternatives to copyright available for people to turn to.
So your participating in the economy, following its rules very traditional ways in an effort to change it?
And of course, once it's ready and live, I'll release the technological advances I've made to the community. If you want more details, you'll have to wait till I'm ready to handle the load of a slashdotting. But I put my time and money where my mouth is, and I always have. So, fuck off.
Personally I always tend towards the "announce the creation of the svn repo," as opposed to, "big secret until I deliver a finished product," but I understand the logic of the "TADA" release. That being said, saying, "I have something. It will be big, but I can't show it to you yet. Fuck off." will not win you any support. That being said I wish you luck and hope you do change the world. I am a die hard capitalists, but I don't think the current model of artificial scarcity with "intellectual property" is ideal.