Why should I have to reboot my desktop -- which has an uptime of several months -- just to play a game?
Why does uptime matter?
Other than that, I agree with you, though when I build desktops for people, I usually buy an OEM version of XP Pro, as Home annoys me, then I just use a premade install image that I made when I was bored one day, set it up, and reseal it. Works great:) They are the one who has to activate it, not me.
Microsoft's OS stability problems can be summed up with one sentence: Cheap x86 hardware running unsigned drivers.
I would have said "Cheap x86 hardware running low quality drivers.", as I have a few unsigned drivers on my XP box, and I've never seen it crash short of a disk failure, which is not a driver problem.
Well, every site I could find indicated that IIS on XP and 2K had the same limitations when not using a server version. Care to enlighten me otherwise?
Sure, but then MS would have to make a MUCH more usable FTP client included in Windows and then SmartFTP/WS-FTP and all the other FTP client developers would be up in arms about that.
How do you figure? When I install Windows, I download FireFox using the standard command line ftp.exe program that comes with windows. It's easy: ftp ftp> open ftp.mozilla.org ftp
cd/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.0.4/win32/en-G B/ bin get "Firefox Setup 1.0.4.exe" quit
Granted, most of this comes from my knowing how to use a command-line FTP client, but it's easy enough to figure out.
Not even close. I have a box that runs perfectly when w2k is installed. When I put XP on it, the sound card doesnt work right (But I suppose a Soundblaster16 PCI card is a pretty esoteric card to test drivers aginst...),
What does the card not do? Work at all? Did you try installing the drivers that came with the card?
and SP2 destroys the machine's ability to connect to any sort of a network. (Again, a 3com 905 seriese NIC are pretty much unheard of, right?)
Again, neither XP nor 2K worked with my 3Com card out of the box, needed the drivers that were on the CD that came with it.
They even crippled some of the features that W2K had for XP, so they could sell more expensive versions of the OS. You can run a webserver from W2k Pro, try doing that with XP Pro.
Getting a web server working on 2K:
1) install 2K 2) once system is working, insert 2K CD into drive. 3) select "Add or remove Windows components" 4) click on IIS.
Getting a web server working on XP:
1) install XP 2) once system is working, insert XP CD into drive. 3) select "Add or remove Windows components" 4) click on IIS.
Wow. That sure was tough. Now, try setting up an ethernet bridge on 2K Pro, XP Pro does it quite nicely, but with 2K you need a server version. Same deal with RDP.
I'd expect that an Apple branded x86 machine will not use a PC bios. It'll use OpenFirmware, just like current Macs and Sun Opteron systems. So it will still need custom firmware to work properly.
Well, it ain't UNIX that runs on those things, I can tell you that. It's an Operating system called MVS, or OS/390. A proprietary IBM operating system.
And it's not new in Tiger; it's in Panther, or, at least, a layout with the Canadian flag and "CSA" below it is.
It's been in every operating system that I've used and allows one to change the keyboard layout, actually. Even Windows 95, DOS, and all the BSDs and Linuxes I've used.
We've already heard there's a new keyboard layout in Tiger called Canadian that's identical to the U.S. layout but displays a Canadian Flag (or is that Canada Flag?) in the menubar.
I know this is meant to be a joke, but there already is a Canadian layout. It is different from the US layout, because it has accent keys and some other nicities. It's called the Canadian Multi-lingual Standard, or CSA (Canadian Standards Association) keyboard. If you want a keyboard that (AFAIK) is just like the US but displays a different flag, try Australian.
Yes, but once a module is loaded, it failing can take down the whole system because the module is loaded into kernel space. A microkernel by definition is nothing more than a message passing interface that lets various user space processes handle everything else.
Apache is JUST a web server. If you really wanted an accurate comparison, you'd have to compare IIS to apache, wuftpd, BIND, sendmail, PHP and Perl.
How about Apache, vsftpd, djbdns, qmail, Python, and Ruby? This is Open Source we're talking about, there are almost always alternatives. There are in the windows world, too, of course, but for some reason most windows sites use IIS all the time.
Heck, I'm Canadian, and I can only get it to work when I put on my best American accent, and speak fairly slowly to it. Americans just don't speak quite right it seems, and everybody else has to adapt. I do like the integrated spell checker in every cocoa text field, though:)
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Is your son a computer hacker? See number 3.
Why should I have to reboot my desktop -- which has an uptime of several months -- just to play a game?
:) They are the one who has to activate it, not me.
Why does uptime matter?
Other than that, I agree with you, though when I build desktops for people, I usually buy an OEM version of XP Pro, as Home annoys me, then I just use a premade install image that I made when I was bored one day, set it up, and reseal it. Works great
Microsoft's OS stability problems can be summed up with one sentence: Cheap x86 hardware running unsigned drivers.
I would have said "Cheap x86 hardware running low quality drivers.", as I have a few unsigned drivers on my XP box, and I've never seen it crash short of a disk failure, which is not a driver problem.
Um.... human???
Well, every site I could find indicated that IIS on XP and 2K had the same limitations when not using a server version. Care to enlighten me otherwise?
Sure, but then MS would have to make a MUCH more usable FTP client included in Windows and then SmartFTP/WS-FTP and all the other FTP client developers would be up in arms about that.
/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.0.4/win32/en-G B/
How do you figure? When I install Windows, I download FireFox using the standard command line ftp.exe program that comes with windows. It's easy:
ftp
ftp> open ftp.mozilla.org
ftp
cd
bin
get "Firefox Setup 1.0.4.exe"
quit
Granted, most of this comes from my knowing how to use a command-line FTP client, but it's easy enough to figure out.
Not even close. I have a box that runs perfectly when w2k is installed. When I put XP on it, the sound card doesnt work right (But I suppose a Soundblaster16 PCI card is a pretty esoteric card to test drivers aginst...),
What does the card not do? Work at all? Did you try installing the drivers that came with the card?
and SP2 destroys the machine's ability to connect to any sort of a network. (Again, a 3com 905 seriese NIC are pretty much unheard of, right?)
Again, neither XP nor 2K worked with my 3Com card out of the box, needed the drivers that were on the CD that came with it.
They even crippled some of the features that W2K had for XP, so they could sell more expensive versions of the OS. You can run a webserver from W2k Pro, try doing that with XP Pro.
Getting a web server working on 2K:
1) install 2K
2) once system is working, insert 2K CD into drive.
3) select "Add or remove Windows components"
4) click on IIS.
Getting a web server working on XP:
1) install XP
2) once system is working, insert XP CD into drive.
3) select "Add or remove Windows components"
4) click on IIS.
Wow. That sure was tough. Now, try setting up an ethernet bridge on 2K Pro, XP Pro does it quite nicely, but with 2K you need a server version. Same deal with RDP.
Also, Server 2003 has RDP built in for remote administration, which means that the flat panel/keyboard combo in the rack is collecting dust.
Server 2000 had it, too. Well, I'm not sure about server, but Advanced Server certainly did.
Yes, actually it does. From the link: As a result, Windows stops responding (crashes).
Apparently the development machines DO use a bios, so the OpenFirmware bit is moot. Too bad, really.
I'd be interested to know how Apple intends to keep this off Beige box machines.
I'd expect that an Apple branded x86 machine will not use a PC bios. It'll use OpenFirmware, just like current Macs and Sun Opteron systems. So it will still need custom firmware to work properly.
Well, it ain't UNIX that runs on those things, I can tell you that. It's an Operating system called MVS, or OS/390. A proprietary IBM operating system.
And it's not new in Tiger; it's in Panther, or, at least, a layout with the Canadian flag and "CSA" below it is.
It's been in every operating system that I've used and allows one to change the keyboard layout, actually. Even Windows 95, DOS, and all the BSDs and Linuxes I've used.
I like 3.7. It's been tagged in CVS for a while now, and I've been running it since not long after that. Very Nice Indeed.
You, sir [?] are Not Part Of The Solution. I think we all know what that means.
Yes. It means he's a precipitate.
We've already heard there's a new keyboard layout in Tiger called Canadian that's identical to the U.S. layout but displays a Canadian Flag (or is that Canada Flag?) in the menubar.
I know this is meant to be a joke, but there already is a Canadian layout. It is different from the US layout, because it has accent keys and some other nicities. It's called the Canadian Multi-lingual Standard, or CSA (Canadian Standards Association) keyboard. If you want a keyboard that (AFAIK) is just like the US but displays a different flag, try Australian.
Yes, but once a module is loaded, it failing can take down the whole system because the module is loaded into kernel space. A microkernel by definition is nothing more than a message passing interface that lets various user space processes handle everything else.
Er.. the grandparent sais that it's in any openbsd installation, in /usr/share/games.
She's already legal in Canada :)
Microsoft prevented OEMs from distributing Windows AND other OSes at the same time, Apple does just the same
Oh? What about these?
Apache is JUST a web server. If you really wanted an accurate comparison, you'd have to compare IIS to apache, wuftpd, BIND, sendmail, PHP and Perl.
How about Apache, vsftpd, djbdns, qmail, Python, and Ruby? This is Open Source we're talking about, there are almost always alternatives. There are in the windows world, too, of course, but for some reason most windows sites use IIS all the time.
A... headless iMac? Isn't that essentially what it already is?
No. A Mac Mini is a G4 1.25/1.42ghz. The iMac is a G5 1.8/2.0ghz. The Mac Mini is closer to a headless eMac.
Heck, I'm Canadian, and I can only get it to work when I put on my best American accent, and speak fairly slowly to it. Americans just don't speak quite right it seems, and everybody else has to adapt. I do like the integrated spell checker in every cocoa text field, though :)
So what exactly is a 64 bit operating system? One that supports 64 bit address space? Apple has had that since 10.2.9, or is it something else?
And Manitoba. I'm from Saskatchewan, and I can go either way to drink at 18. (I'm 22, so the point is moot, but you get the idea)