//"In other words, Dvorak is occasionally useful and mostly harmless, wheras Coulter is occasionally harmles and mostly terrible."
Amen to that, Dvorak is a grumpy old fart like me, but harmless, whereas Coulter panders to the most dangerous extreme elements of US society. Apples and hand grenades.
I was just about ready to laugh at your joke, but then realized you are probably spot on.
If I was even remotely connected to the group that finally provides indesputable proof of cold fusion, I'd hide and keep running. The powers that be do not play by any rules, and anything or anyone who threatens their power are fair game. No doubt in my military mind about that.
Zeinfeld said: "The Cindy Sheehan article attracted so many opposing POV peddlers that the article itself was protected and thus out of date for most of the time it was relevant."
I'm trying to figure out why this is bad. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an online news magazine or online newspaper. Encyclopedias are not and should not be considered current event news sources, as it frequently takes months or even years for all necessary information about a subject or event to surface.
Exactly. These supposed issues are so few and far betweeen and fixed so quickly as to be statistically irrelevant. Like I've said before, I use the Wikipedia just about every day and the only time I have ever seen anything untoward is when someone else found something they didn't agree with and posted about it, screeching and wailing as if it were somehow wounding them personally. When, out of curiosity, I went to look at what they were shrieking about, it was already being fixed and I had to go to a second discussion page to see the original content.
I think the fire under this entire issue has been fueled by those who know little about the Wikipedia and are parroting what they read elsewhere. Using second and third hand information to form concrete opinions, shrieking and wailing about how it wounds them personally, and then revelling in the friction and animosity it creates........In other words, they are drama queens.
encyclopedia Pronunciation (n-skl-pd-) n. A comprehensive reference work containing articles on a wide range of subjects or on numerous aspects of a particular field, usually arranged alphabetically
Is there any mention in any definition of encyclopedia that it cannot have the word "fuck" in it, or that it can only be compiled by certain people (or a certain kind of people)? There are as many different kinds of encyclopedias as there are subjects, and they are all compiled, managed, and written differently.
Of course it's an encyclopedia, just as much as Britannica, or World Book. It is just managed differently, and I myself use it regularly just as I would any other encyclopedia, using other sources of information to cross reference and back up information that I find.
I telecommute as well as working in the office. As a Systems Admin I can do most of my job remotely and my bosses use telecommuting as a way to pay for productivity. I know when to work at home and when I'm needed in the office and have gone out of my way to make sure that my productivity has increased since I began telecommuting.
When someone uses the "a few bad apples spoil it for the whole bunch" argument, they don't address the probability that productivity increases as a whole, even with those bad apples. In this particular case, a Wallyworld manager goes to HP and begins treating IT professionals just like they treated the illegal immigrants and sub-minimum wage unskilled workers back at Wallyworld.
Telecommuting isn't for everyone, nor for every job, but taking your lead on this issue from a Wally World manager is like asking a NeoCon for advice on social responsibility in government.
WallyWorld manager moves to HP and starts treating IT professionals like illegal immigrants and sub-minimum wage unskilled workers. That is an absolutely beautiful, crystal clear look into the future, because in the US, corporate managers and CEOs are being trained, or conditioned, to think of all workers in precisely that way.
In the US today, employees and customers are the enemy as far as corporate management and CEOs are concerned.
Ordinarily I'd agree with you and say it is overreacting to the situation. This case is different. These corporations have been extorting money from hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people over the past 20+ years, effectively making the Mafia look like amateurs. They have then used that same money to purchase legislation making it easier for them to continue unchallenged. Now their illegal acts are beginning to bite them on the ass and we are supposed to forgive and forget? Well, to put it bluntly:
Not a chance in fucking hell. Send the sick fucks to a Federal Pen.
Agreed. But I believe the Reagan years began the downward trend. That administration accelerated the trend of concentrating power and money into fewer and fewer hands far beyond what any previous administration was able to. The Clinton Administration temporarily slowed the trend by expanding the ranks of the Middle Class, but as soon as AWOL and the Father of Darkness stole the show they could not dry fuck our country hard or fast enough. There will be special rings of hell waiting for our current administration in Dante's Hell.
You see your god punishing people, I see a government that has allowed huge corporations to run roughshod over the people. I see corporations that have more rights and less responsibilities than the citizenry itself.
You take comfort in the stability of your god and have a desperate fear of change, and I see archaic and draconian social mores being forced on the general public in an attempt to silence dissenting opinions and revert the US to some "700 Club" version of "Leave it to Beaver".
You seem to see your god as a punisher and I really feel sorry for you. My sister is the same way and she is not a happy person. My wife and kids see god and religion as something to be happy about, and I as an atheist am rather amused at your juvenile crack about atheist factory owners. Such a complete disconnect from reality is truly priceless.
It is really rather sad that so many people can be missing the boat entirely on an issue as simple as this.
This is not just about what inconveniences you or your pocket book. And (newsflash), this is not just a bunch of Tree Hugging Greenpeacers anymore.
So far we all have the right to consume as much as we want and in almost any way that we want. So far we have the right to act as ignorantly as we wish when it comes to the environment. Hell, we have moral deviants in Congress who still say Global Warming is based on bad science just so they can suck a little Oil Industry dick and pocket the cash left on the nightstand in the morning.
So far we still have the right to do these things, but if you truly believe that when a natural resource (natural gas, gasoline, unpolluted land) is about to breath its last breath that our government will say "Hey Max, you go right ahead and use the last of it, we will do without.", then you are delusional.
When a resource reaches that special point that our government will start a war over it (Hmmmm, let's think about that for a sec...), then it is precious enough that our government will bend you over for that resource. Let's say that Preznit Junior Samples and the whole Hee Haw gang decide to attack Iran and just for shits and grins Syria as well. We all know that the current administration has one hell of a stiffy just thinking about it. But if they do it, we can all just plan on using our beautiful SUVs and Hummers as outdoor planters. Gasoline will be virtually unobtainable by any ordinary folk because the middle east will be entirely in shambles (think Iraq times 1000). This is only one of a half dozen scenarios I can think of that result in something similar.
No amount of money and no amount of voting anyone out of office will fix that.
Hydrogen cars are Junior's way of stroking you off so you can feel that we will "eventually" do the right thing. They do nothing for you now. Hybrids and Plugin Hybrids are a small first step, but they are a damn site better than sitting with your thumb up your ass spouting off about how you are too independant to let others tell you what to do.
Driving to work in a Prius getting 50+ mpg and paying $10 or more a gallon will be more palatable than driving in a GMC Denali.
If you are really that put off by the environmentalists, then listen to the political wonks.
Practically bragging about how you add to the polution problem is pretty juvenile though.
I've been using e16 on a couple of Ubuntu machines and I like it. I've also looked at e17 on this Debian Live cd and it is impressive. I initially thought it would be distracting to work with it, but once I got my desktops configured it turned out to be more efficient to work with than KDE (which is still my primary).
Half of businesses are using 2000 and 2000 will not be supported. I'm guessing that most of these businesses are small/medium size and have very limited IT budgets.
I'm guessing that piracy will spike with small businesses in the next year.
Agreed. I've been waiting for this as well. Even though it does take longer for the page to load, it still beats the hell out of Yahoo and Netscape's portals. And I can still use the old plain page if I want.
Of course he will not call it liberal TV. If he even hints that it may possibly have a liberal slant, every wingnut in the country will start screaming of how they are being persecuted by the media. If it were possible for him to come in under the wingnut radar, he might be able to avoid some of the crap that Air America radio went through.
No, if the right continues using the word to describe everyone not like them then it will eventually lose its shock affect. They will then have to find another word to abuse in order to malign those who dissent. We are just helping that process along.
I'm a terrorist, you're a terrorist, he's a terrorist, she's a terrorist, wouldn't you like to be a terrorist too? Be a terrorist, drink Dr. Terrorist.........
Calling him a terrorist is silly? Depending upon your perspective I can see it being anything from an overstatement to "spot on", but silly...nah.
He is an elected representative and has been entrusted with the power and privilege commensurate with that position. What he has instead done is take that power and privilege and use it against the people who voted him in.
Members of our government have called its own constituents terrorists just for disagreeing with them on issues they feel need not be discussed. The Wingnutteria consistently call those on the left terrorists because the left is a scary place to them. With all of the terrorist labels being bandied about by those on the right when describing those on the left, I certainly don't see that label as being any more inappropriate when describing someone who wanted to let the Recording Industry remotely destroy private computers with impunity.
"you're trying to tell me, that you'll die if you can't download movies off the Internet*"
You have to be able to extrapolate, to recognize patterns and see in what direction we are and will be going. You are not doing that, either because you do not wish to or because you are not able to, and so you see what is going on right now and not where it will lead. You ridicule the immediate issue because you cannot comprehend the long term effects.
Before Napster hit its peak, I searched for different types of music and found many I'd never heard of before. I found Swedish Goth, Russian trance, Bangladeshi pop, Far Eastern Classical. Most of the groups I found were not available via normal channels.
Now I don't even bother, since the RIAA has taken to vilifying even those who don't listen to their crap. I can find interesting music on Magnatune and the like. I make sure I do my research and send my money to indie artists.
//"In other words, Dvorak is occasionally useful and mostly harmless, wheras Coulter is occasionally harmles and mostly terrible."
Amen to that, Dvorak is a grumpy old fart like me, but harmless, whereas Coulter panders to the most dangerous extreme elements of US society. Apples and hand grenades.
I was just about ready to laugh at your joke, but then realized you are probably spot on.
If I was even remotely connected to the group that finally provides indesputable proof of cold fusion, I'd hide and keep running. The powers that be do not play by any rules, and anything or anyone who threatens their power are fair game. No doubt in my military mind about that.
Zeinfeld said:
"The Cindy Sheehan article attracted so many opposing POV peddlers that the article itself was protected and thus out of date for most of the time it was relevant."
I'm trying to figure out why this is bad. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an online news magazine or online newspaper. Encyclopedias are not and should not be considered current event news sources, as it frequently takes months or even years for all necessary information about a subject or event to surface.
Exactly. These supposed issues are so few and far betweeen and fixed so quickly as to be statistically irrelevant. Like I've said before, I use the Wikipedia just about every day and the only time I have ever seen anything untoward is when someone else found something they didn't agree with and posted about it, screeching and wailing as if it were somehow wounding them personally. When, out of curiosity, I went to look at what they were shrieking about, it was already being fixed and I had to go to a second discussion page to see the original content.
I think the fire under this entire issue has been fueled by those who know little about the Wikipedia and are parroting what they read elsewhere. Using second and third hand information to form concrete opinions, shrieking and wailing about how it wounds them personally, and then revelling in the friction and animosity it creates........In other words, they are drama queens.
This is one huge non issue.
encyclopedia Pronunciation (n-skl-pd-)
n.
A comprehensive reference work containing articles on a wide range of subjects or on numerous aspects of a particular field, usually arranged alphabetically
Is there any mention in any definition of encyclopedia that it cannot have the word "fuck" in it, or that it can only be compiled by certain people (or a certain kind of people)? There are as many different kinds of encyclopedias as there are subjects, and they are all compiled, managed, and written differently.
Of course it's an encyclopedia, just as much as Britannica, or World Book. It is just managed differently, and I myself use it regularly just as I would any other encyclopedia, using other sources of information to cross reference and back up information that I find.
subterfuge parroted:
"..or like asking a NeoLibCommy to keep his hands out of your pocket."
Put a little thought into it next time. I know you can do better than that.
I telecommute as well as working in the office. As a Systems Admin I can do most of my job remotely and my bosses use telecommuting as a way to pay for productivity. I know when to work at home and when I'm needed in the office and have gone out of my way to make sure that my productivity has increased since I began telecommuting.
When someone uses the "a few bad apples spoil it for the whole bunch" argument, they don't address the probability that productivity increases as a whole, even with those bad apples. In this particular case, a Wallyworld manager goes to HP and begins treating IT professionals just like they treated the illegal immigrants and sub-minimum wage unskilled workers back at Wallyworld.
Telecommuting isn't for everyone, nor for every job, but taking your lead on this issue from a Wally World manager is like asking a NeoCon for advice on social responsibility in government.
WallyWorld manager moves to HP and starts treating IT professionals like illegal immigrants and sub-minimum wage unskilled workers. That is an absolutely beautiful, crystal clear look into the future, because in the US, corporate managers and CEOs are being trained, or conditioned, to think of all workers in precisely that way.
In the US today, employees and customers are the enemy as far as corporate management and CEOs are concerned.
Ordinarily I'd agree with you and say it is overreacting to the situation. This case is different. These corporations have been extorting money from hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people over the past 20+ years, effectively making the Mafia look like amateurs. They have then used that same money to purchase legislation making it easier for them to continue unchallenged. Now their illegal acts are beginning to bite them on the ass and we are supposed to forgive and forget? Well, to put it bluntly:
Not a chance in fucking hell. Send the sick fucks to a Federal Pen.
Agreed. Some people just don't seem happy unless they are bitching about something.
Agreed. But I believe the Reagan years began the downward trend. That administration accelerated the trend of concentrating power and money into fewer and fewer hands far beyond what any previous administration was able to. The Clinton Administration temporarily slowed the trend by expanding the ranks of the Middle Class, but as soon as AWOL and the Father of Darkness stole the show they could not dry fuck our country hard or fast enough. There will be special rings of hell waiting for our current administration in Dante's Hell.
That is my hope anyway.
You see your god punishing people, I see a government that has allowed huge corporations to run roughshod over the people. I see corporations that have more rights and less responsibilities than the citizenry itself.
You take comfort in the stability of your god and have a desperate fear of change, and I see archaic and draconian social mores being forced on the general public in an attempt to silence dissenting opinions and revert the US to some "700 Club" version of "Leave it to Beaver".
You seem to see your god as a punisher and I really feel sorry for you. My sister is the same way and she is not a happy person. My wife and kids see god and religion as something to be happy about, and I as an atheist am rather amused at your juvenile crack about atheist factory owners. Such a complete disconnect from reality is truly priceless.
I'd like to petafauna myself, but they keep running away.
It is really rather sad that so many people can be missing the boat entirely on an issue as simple as this.
This is not just about what inconveniences you or your pocket book. And (newsflash), this is not just a bunch of Tree Hugging Greenpeacers anymore.
So far we all have the right to consume as much as we want and in almost any way that we want. So far we have the right to act as ignorantly as we wish when it comes to the environment. Hell, we have moral deviants in Congress who still say Global Warming is based on bad science just so they can suck a little Oil Industry dick and pocket the cash left on the nightstand in the morning.
So far we still have the right to do these things, but if you truly believe that when a natural resource (natural gas, gasoline, unpolluted land) is about to breath its last breath that our government will say "Hey Max, you go right ahead and use the last of it, we will do without.", then you are delusional.
When a resource reaches that special point that our government will start a war over it (Hmmmm, let's think about that for a sec...), then it is precious enough that our government will bend you over for that resource. Let's say that Preznit Junior Samples and the whole Hee Haw gang decide to attack Iran and just for shits and grins Syria as well. We all know that the current administration has one hell of a stiffy just thinking about it. But if they do it, we can all just plan on using our beautiful SUVs and Hummers as outdoor planters. Gasoline will be virtually unobtainable by any ordinary folk because the middle east will be entirely in shambles (think Iraq times 1000). This is only one of a half dozen scenarios I can think of that result in something similar.
No amount of money and no amount of voting anyone out of office will fix that.
Hydrogen cars are Junior's way of stroking you off so you can feel that we will "eventually" do the right thing. They do nothing for you now. Hybrids and Plugin Hybrids are a small first step, but they are a damn site better than sitting with your thumb up your ass spouting off about how you are too independant to let others tell you what to do.
Driving to work in a Prius getting 50+ mpg and paying $10 or more a gallon will be more palatable than driving in a GMC Denali.
If you are really that put off by the environmentalists, then listen to the political wonks.
Practically bragging about how you add to the polution problem is pretty juvenile though.
I've been using e16 on a couple of Ubuntu machines and I like it. I've also looked at e17 on this
Debian Live cd and it is impressive. I initially thought it would be distracting to work with it, but once I got my desktops configured it turned out to be more efficient to work with than KDE (which is still my primary).
I will just stop sending mail to anyone using Hotmail and MSN.
Problem solved. Next!?
Half of businesses are using 2000 and 2000 will not be supported. I'm guessing that most of these businesses are small/medium size and have very limited IT budgets.
I'm guessing that piracy will spike with small businesses in the next year.
Democracy Now!
DW Journal news
Mosaic
Newsworld International
the Science Channel
On the entertainment side:
Battlestar Galactica
Other than these there is not a lot of greatness on the boob toob.
Sounds like Uncle Bill is taking a page from Nature Boy's playbook. Filter those who have access to you so you never have to hear an opposing opinion.
Agreed. I've been waiting for this as well. Even though it does take longer for the page to load, it still beats the hell out of Yahoo and Netscape's portals. And I can still use the old plain page if I want.
"He's making "liberal TV" But he says he's not."
Of course he will not call it liberal TV. If he even hints that it may possibly have a liberal slant, every wingnut in the country will start screaming of how they are being persecuted by the media. If it were possible for him to come in under the wingnut radar, he might be able to avoid some of the crap that Air America radio went through.
More power to him. I'll pay for the channel.
No, if the right continues using the word to describe everyone not like them then it will eventually lose its shock affect. They will then have to find another word to abuse in order to malign those who dissent. We are just helping that process along.
I'm a terrorist, you're a terrorist, he's a terrorist, she's a terrorist, wouldn't you like to be a terrorist too? Be a terrorist, drink Dr. Terrorist.........
Calling him a terrorist is silly? Depending upon your perspective I can see it being anything from an overstatement to "spot on", but silly...nah.
He is an elected representative and has been entrusted with the power and privilege commensurate with that position. What he has instead done is take that power and privilege and use it against the people who voted him in.
Members of our government have called its own constituents terrorists just for disagreeing with them on issues they feel need not be discussed. The Wingnutteria consistently call those on the left terrorists because the left is a scary place to them. With all of the terrorist labels being bandied about by those on the right when describing those on the left, I certainly don't see that label as being any more inappropriate when describing someone who wanted to let the Recording Industry remotely destroy private computers with impunity.
"you're trying to tell me, that you'll die if you can't download movies
off the Internet*"
You have to be able to extrapolate,
to recognize patterns and see in what direction we are and will be
going. You are not doing that, either because you do not wish to
or because you are not able to, and so you see what is going on right
now and not where it will lead. You ridicule the immediate issue
because you cannot comprehend the long term effects.
Before Napster hit its peak, I searched for different types of music and found many I'd never heard of before. I found Swedish Goth, Russian trance, Bangladeshi pop, Far Eastern Classical. Most of the groups I found were not available via normal channels.
Now I don't even bother, since the RIAA has taken to vilifying even those who don't listen to their crap. I can find interesting music on Magnatune and the like. I make sure I do my research and send my money to indie artists.