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Your Chance to Meet Bill Gates

tcak writes "From the CNET article: "You could meet the chairman of Microsoft, but you'll have to profess a passion for Windows first. Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby. The company plans to use them in a marketing blitz tied to the 20th anniversary of Windows' debut. ""

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  1. Wonderful by mfh · · Score: 5, Funny

    You could meet the chairman of Microsoft, but you'll have to profess a passion for Windows first.

    How many of us will pretend to love windows just to get a chance to relive some fond memories?

    Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby.

    So now they have to bribe Windows users for positive reviews, eh? Seems about right.

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    1. Re:Wonderful by DoraLives · · Score: 4, Insightful
      How many of us will pretend to love windows just to get a chance to relive some fond memories?

      How many of us want to see OUR names splashed around the world by the marketeers as somebody delirously in love with windows?

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    2. Re:Wonderful by soloport · · Score: 2, Insightful

      but you'll have to profess a passion for Windows

      Isn't hatred one of the seven passions?

    3. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't this kind of like having to sign the loyalty oaths to get into Bush campaign events?

    4. Re:Wonderful by DS_User · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear Bill; I have idolized you ever sinec I was a child. Now I plan to start my own computer business that will be based on things that already exist. However I will give everything a bloated gui to brainwash noobs into buying. Afterwards our software will turn to OS and then become so huge and bloated that it devours your own. Then I will be the master and you will be no more. Afterwards I will buy the senate and have them force my software to every government facility known to man. I will also send ultra buggy beta versions to Iraq which will destory everything with pure explosions from poor code. Then the US will love me, Britian will knight me, and then, and then. I shall be the emperor of the world. (Your master Sedious would be proud)Such is the way of the Sith.

    5. Re:Wonderful by space_dude_27 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Me. I'll tell them how much fun I have using ace windows software like Firefox and Open Office. And Cygwin ;-)

    6. Re:Wonderful by intnsred · · Score: 1

      Agreed; this is celebrity worship combined with raw marketing at its most sickening level.

    7. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend of mine once met Bill Gates, in the men's room. They were at adjacent urinals. My friend didn't do the obvious. I harass him about it to this day.

    8. Re:Wonderful by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

      So now they have to bribe Windows users for positive reviews, eh?

      So I guess my essay on how I use Windows to pursue my passion because I can't get the shit to run right under WINE yet is right out?

      KFG

    9. Re:Wonderful by Speare · · Score: 3, Funny
      Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby.

      "It was a good paper, too." --Ellen Feiss

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    10. Re:Wonderful by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 4, Funny
      MASTER STALLMAN: Not if anything to do with it I have!

      A protracted light saber fight ensues, at the end of which the defeated MASTER STALLMAN escapes DARTH GEEKIOUS by crawling through a Unix pipe and going into self-imposed exile in the GNU system. There he waits until the New Hope, LINUS PENGUINSTALKER is ready to begin his training in the arts of the VI KNIGHTS.

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    11. Re:Wonderful by Thwomp · · Score: 2, Funny

      Man, I hope that was an apple pie.

    12. Re:Wonderful by the+web · · Score: 1

      Does having a passion about wasting my time at work playing solitaire count?

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    13. Re:Wonderful by kyb · · Score: 1
      So now they have to bribe Windows users for positive reviews, eh? Seems about right.

      They've already bribed me - I'm passionately grateful that they subsidized the XBox - my cheap linux computer.

    14. Re:Wonderful by kyojin+the+clown · · Score: 1

      wait. are you Larry or Sergei?

    15. Re:Wonderful by pintomp3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I love using windows. i have the double paned ones that fold in for easy cleaning. i love to look through them to check the weather, see who's knocking, and bird watching. Windows provide me tons of information and couldn't be easier to use. They are great for security and I never worry about getting bugs inside. They illuminate my otherwise dreary life. I even love using windows in the car. I will never buy a car without windows. Using windows is such a pleasure, more than I can say for my computer running XP.

    16. Re:Wonderful by wpanderson · · Score: 1, Funny

      What was the obvious? Beat him to a pulp? Fuck him in the ass? The tense masses demand to know!

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    17. Re:Wonderful by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 5, Funny

      You have the names mixed up. It's Emperor Bilgatine and Darth Mcbride.

      RMS is the wookie (mostly because he won't need a costume).

    18. Re:Wonderful by spyroux · · Score: 1

      We met Noel Godin* a month ago and some of my friends asked him to do the same with Linus but he didn't know who Linus is ! :-D He says he will think about this new target :-D * the man with the pie

    19. Re:Wonderful by jwdb · · Score: 2, Funny

      vi knights? VI KNIGHTS?
      Do you honestly believe Stallman would have ANYTHING to do with a group by the name of VI Knights?

      ;)

      Jw

    20. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linus uses gvim, not vi.

    21. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So is envy.

    22. Re:Wonderful by Cleon · · Score: 0

      Three words:

      "How's it hanging?"

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    23. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So now they have to bribe Windows users for positive reviews, eh?

      No, they've always had to bribe Windows users for positive reviews.

    24. Re:Wonderful by Black_V!per · · Score: 1

      Man you said it, Bribing Window users fir oisutuve reviews. lol, i cant belive he's doing this... Watch, they'll show off the best essays, and say, LORK AT US!!!11one!!! WE R DUH BEST OS MAKXORZ!!! Phht, man, if only my games ran better on Linux...

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    25. Re:Wonderful by raider_red · · Score: 1

      If it is, then this guy is a shoe-in.

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    26. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So has poison gas tooth technology evolved over the years?

      "The tooth.... remember the tooth...You won't be able to move but you can still strike!"

      Sorry, getting withing speaking range of Billy G. made me think of Dune...

    27. Re:Wonderful by lastchance_000 · · Score: 0

      "I'm marking my territory" - Jack Nicholson, in Wolf

    28. Re:Wonderful by mastahblastah · · Score: 0

      I wonder if they will use that same lady who was the head of the previous marketing campaign to write her story about how she 'switched' to Windows, and then use a photo from stock.

    29. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too! I have so much fun exploiting windows bugs for hacking, worms, viruses, spyware...er...nevermind, I guess they don't want to promote that.

    30. Re:Wonderful by rjshields · · Score: 1

      And I suppose using IE with rdesktop because some poeple some web stuff doesn't work in FireFox is also out.

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    31. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      IF RMS were a Wookie, then I guess, in the scene where it shows a large amount of Wookies, that would be called a HURD.

    32. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although Linux is the os of choice for stability and those in the know,the're probably are people out there who would also swear by windows and use it on a daily basis to pursue hobbies and interests. Personally i don't know any of these people but I am sure they do actually exist somewhere prob in the world of non geeks.

    33. Re:Wonderful by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

      There's a droid named OS2V4 also. But I think he was cut from the film, primarily because the voice acting was done by Wil Wheaton...

    34. Re:Wonderful by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      My question is, "Is it necessary for my name to be associated with someone who would accept a guilty verdict for being a bad guy?" I'm not convinced, yet.

    35. Re:Wonderful by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Seems if they were smart they'd find the most intelligent complaints about Windows and sit Bill down to talk to the people making them. It might not work as well as a PR release but it'd be very valuable as market research.

      As an engineer I find that if you can't sit down and really criticize your own work that you'll never create something that is really good. It's one thing not to put that stuff in your marketing but it's quite another to not do it at all. You should always be your own biggest critic.

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    36. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or this guy with his 'i hate linux' blog.

    37. Re:Wonderful by suwain_2 · · Score: 1

      I thought the petrol-filled flourescent lights blew up during the duel.

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    38. Re:Wonderful by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well you can pretend to be a virus writer.

      "Mr Gates, I really enjoy using your windows platform as the premiere choice for writing my home-made viruses, spywares and adwares. It's easy to do. You don't even need a virus development tool kit. It comes with every version of windows."

    39. Re:Wonderful by lcsjk · · Score: 1

      I too have a passion for windows! My hobby is being a "windows entomolygist". I just love finding those windows bugs and other creepy-crawley things there.

    40. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Find out if it's really microsoft.

    41. Re:Wonderful by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 1

      Why you posted AC is beyond me, cuz that deserves +5: funny.

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    42. Re:Wonderful by Mr.+Mai · · Score: 1

      Ahhh by the way. No pies, cakes or any bakery projectiles allowed.

    43. Re:Wonderful by SolusSD · · Score: 1

      sure, windows inspired a hobby of mine. fixing windows boxes. ;)

    44. Re:Wonderful by Dolda2000 · · Score: 1
      which will destory everything with pure explosions
      Yeah, it had better be pure explosions. Those tainted explosions just aren't at all as dangerous.
    45. Re:Wonderful by squidfood · · Score: 1
      vi knights? VI KNIGHTS?

      "VI is an elegant weapon. Not as random or clumsy as a GUI. Your WYSIWYG deceives you. Stretch out with your feelings!"

    46. Re:Wonderful by flawedgeek · · Score: 1

      What about my passion for drop-kicking my tower after it bluescreens?

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    47. Re:Wonderful by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1

      Mandark, is it really you?

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    48. Re:Wonderful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the second prize is ... you get to meet Billy-boy TWICE !

    49. Re:Wonderful by bairy · · Score: 1

      You're right. It really isn't.

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    50. Re:Wonderful by Adelbert · · Score: 1
      I love using windows. i have the double paned ones that fold in for easy cleaning

      You missed my favourite thing about windows. They're great for throwing XP boxes out of.

  2. my only question is... by whoisshe · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...will they pat me down first before i meet him?

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    1. Re:my only question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Nah, they'll just make sure that you don't have any custard pies before meeting Bill Gates. ;)

    2. Re:my only question is... by b0r0din · · Score: 1, Funny

      For some reason the first thing that came to mind was the movie Hero.

      SCENE: Chamber of Bill Gates

      Bill Gates: So...how did you defeat, RedHat, YellowDog, and UNIX? For these foes ever elude us.

      Nameless: I used a powerful virus.

      *candles flicker*

      Bill Gates: So...you come for me...for this is a lie. Everyone knows there is no virus which can defeat all these enemies. No OS but Windows allows such possibilities.

      But...before you destroy me...understand I was trying to bring all OSes together under one system! That system is Longhorn!

      Nameless: Umm. Yeah. Have you ever seen the source for Windows? I mean, just look at SP2 for XP. A code warrior could not possibly wade through such an army of such colossal hackery.

      BG: I...I have nothing to say to that. Guards! Bring in Ballmer, skilled in the ways of the Monkey! You will not defeat us!

    3. Re:my only question is... by t0ny747 · · Score: 0

      Guards! Bring in Ballmer, skilled in the ways of the Monkey!

      Ahh I love that :) Its going on my sig.

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    4. Re:my only question is... by happymedium · · Score: 1

      They will try... then you'll pull two Uzi's out of your stylish black trenchcoat and gun the bastards down before they can finish saying "Holy shit!"

      You'll grab your bag of fun, MS-friendly toys as it rolls off the metal detector...and you know what to do from there. ^_^

      (If Big Brother is reading this, I'm just kidding!)

    5. Re:my only question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      They will try to search you... but only by using their own MS technology. It will most likely fail, but won't notify the operator(s) of the failure, instead prompting them to take the MS SearchGuardPro2006 Tour, after which the operator would be so fed up with even their own technology that they would maybe think: "Maybe it would be better if this person is after Gates."

    6. Re:my only question is... by lordofthechia · · Score: 1

      ...will they pat me down

      "I wish to kill a man... not you, my dear Slashdotter, but the Bill.... You were dead already... but you will be close to the Bill before you die. You will be tied and drugged but you can still attack. When you see the Bill you will have a new poison tooth. He will want you close so he can gloat over you. One bite on this tooth and a strong exhale..."

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    7. Re:my only question is... by whoisshe · · Score: 1
      (If Big Brother is reading this, I'm just kidding!)


      it's a sad day indeed when you feel you have to qualify something like that...

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    8. Re:my only question is... by ignorant_coward · · Score: 1


      I hear Bill Gates will pat you down himself, rowr!

    9. Re:my only question is... by syrinx · · Score: 1

      (If Big Brother is reading this, I'm just kidding!)

      it's a sad day indeed when you feel you have to qualify something like that...


      You seemed to have accidently turned off your Closed Captioning for the Humor Impaired. You might want to turn that back on, so you don't respond seriously to any more obvious jokes.

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    10. Re:my only question is... by AVryhof · · Score: 1

      Commence with.....

      Monkey Kombat!
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    11. Re:my only question is... by purple_cobra · · Score: 1

      I imagine they will so here's a non-violent method to get your point across. Some pain will need to be endured...
      Have 'Windows' tattooed on one butt cheek and 'sucks' on the other; all you need do then is moon the guy and he'll get the message.

    12. Re:my only question is... by quarkscat · · Score: 1

      "...will they pat me down first before i meet him?" -- that was the question that immediately popped into my head when I read the headline.

      But when I read the body of the slashdot submission, it became immediately apparent that this would be a staged propaganda event, not unlike every public appearance Dubya has made in the last 100 days pushing for the death of Social Security. In each and every one of those "town hall" meetings only the carefully screened "party faithful" were allowing anywhere near the "news" cameras.

      In some alternate universe, Bill Gatus Prime would have been in prison by now, and that headline an announcement for a public viewing before the execution -- "draw & quartering" as the DoJ penalty for both MSFT and Bill. Both saved by a change in venue (er, regime change).

    13. Re:my only question is... by BlueLightning · · Score: 1

      you'll pull two Uzi's out of your stylish black trenchcoat

      Technically, that would be two MP5Ks, but anyway...

  3. Apple's Switch by varmittang · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why do I get the feeling that this is going to be like Apple's Switch ads?

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    1. Re:Apple's Switch by Golias · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why do I get the feeling that this is going to be like Apple's Switch ads?

      That's the whole idea.

      Another Microsoft innovation!

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    2. Re:Apple's Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or it could be to counter all the upcomming OSX adds.

    3. Re:Apple's Switch by linuxci · · Score: 4, Interesting
      It's good to see Microsoft are worried on all fronts at the moment, they must be spending more than they ever have on improving products and advertising. You can't visit a tech site (even slashdot) without seeing ads that are saying that Windows is cheaper than Linux (unless you block ads*). Now they're doing an Apple style campaign to respond to people switching to Mac or maybe Linux on the desktop. They've revived the IE team and spending a fortune trying to patch the security holes in their swiss chesse products.


      *I'd never block Microsoft's ads, sometimes I even click them in order to give the site some free money from Microsoft.

    4. Re:Apple's Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, unless you actually buy something, I don't think that /. gets any cash from them.

      I'd like to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

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    5. Re:Apple's Switch by linuxci · · Score: 1

      Actually, unless you actually buy something, I don't think that /. gets any cash from them.

      I'd like to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.


      Most of the things that Microsoft ads link to are to download free whitepapers to explain how much cheaper Windows is. I think advertising is still based on click through but they probably use a number of methods to detect people repeatedly clicking on an ad.

    6. Re:Apple's Switch by traabil · · Score: 1

      You can't visit a tech site (even slashdot) without seeing ads that are saying that Windows is cheaper than Linux (unless you block ads*)

      How come Linux gets cheaper if I start blocking ads?

      *duck*

    7. Re:Apple's Switch by linuxci · · Score: 1

      Well for those people that believe MS propaganda then blocking their ads means they don't see Microsoft's lie^H^H^Hdistorted version of the truth.

    8. Re:Apple's Switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot charges per impression, not per click. Check out http://www.ostg.com/advertising/tech/rates.htm

    9. Re:Apple's Switch by Draknor · · Score: 1

      It's good to see Microsoft are worried on all fronts at the moment, they must be spending more than they ever have on improving products and advertising.

      You had a few too many words in there. It should read like this:

      It's good to see Microsoft are worried on all fronts at the moment, they must be spending more than they ever have on improving advertising.

      ^_^

    10. Re:Apple's Switch by Bullfish · · Score: 1

      Why not? That campaign was wildly successful, wasn't it?

  4. haha by Mongoose · · Score: 1, Funny

    I use windows for... well, I'm sure I could use windows for... no wait I have wine. I'm sure it could be used for something...

    Oh yes... making neat internet worms!

  5. Totally love Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    And guns. Lots of guns.

  6. We tried working with Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    An employee suggested to me that we buy Windows for few offices here as an evaluation. I was skeptical at first but he explained the benefits of using it for our employee's day-to-day notekeeping and organization. So I decided to let him install Windows (Windows 95 I think) into 5 offices to see how the employees got on. Besides, our IT manager had been using Windows in his office and it seemed to work fine, why not try it on the client offices?

    Once he'd got Windows up and running we let the users try it out. It all seemed fine to start with: Windows was a pretty good replacement for DOS and the users could still do their work as normal.

    Alas it did not stay that way. After a few days, I had lost count of the number of complaints received from users who could not find things they were used to (like the command line) or tasks they could not perform that they previously could with the DOS. The constant crashing began to make using Windows a burden on our office supplies. The final straw came when one employee lost several hours work when Windows suddenly had an error reading from our network and corrupted his pr0n collection.

    Needless to say, the Windows team offered no support whatsoever. I made the employee remove Windows from the offices and lets just say he's not with us anymore.

    1. Re:We tried working with Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh man, this is hilarous...
      here
      and here are other similar Troll posts...

      I would mod you up Funny if I had mod points...

      xtracto

  7. Second prize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Two meetings with Bill Gates

  8. Dear Bill. . . by Nomihn0 · · Score: 1

    Dear Bill,

    Thanks to Windows, my kitchen table doesn't stain.

    Yours forever,
    Steve Jobs

    1. Re:Dear Bill. . . by Ninwa · · Score: 0, Troll

      Nomihn0, you're not As Seen on TV, quit posing!

  9. I use Windows at work! by Boone^ · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I'm at work, I use a Dell PC running Windows XP to open my VNC sessions on the linux grid to write new simulators as well as check on the progress of currently executing ones, as well as pulling up my VNC terminal from my iMacG5 at home to peruse personal email.

    Do I get to meet Bill now?

    1. Re:I use Windows at work! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill Gates likes PowerPC! (xbox 360 anyone?)

    2. Re:I use Windows at work! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I'm at work, I use a Dell PC running Windows XP to open my VNC sessions on the linux grid to write new simulators as well as check on the progress of currently executing ones, as well as pulling up my VNC terminal from my iMacG5 at home to peruse personal email.

      VNC sessions? Are you mad? Why aren't you using a SSH terminal session or FreeNX server (on Linux) with NX client for Windows? NX is much much faster than VNC. Though I'm not sure a free NX server for OS X exists.

      Unrelated: OK, this image confirmation thing is just stupid, I've been blocking images from Slashdot (faster load time) and now I have to unblock just to post..

    3. Re:I use Windows at work! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still living your Meek House days of OS/2?? ;)

      --Mike

    4. Re:I use Windows at work! by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      I use windows at work too, to run Cygwin for my scripting language software and to ssh to the various Unix/Linux/BSD boxes. So I'd say Windows 2000 Professional makes an adequate/servicable scripting and terminal environment, if one's employer doesn't allow best tool for job.

    5. Re:I use Windows at work! by jhoger · · Score: 1

      Yeah every once in a while I have to launch my copy of Windows 98 or 2000 that I have confined to a VmWare session in one of my virtual desktops.

      I sneak in there to enter a transaction in quackbooks (this summer I am switching to SQL Ledger though) or to print an invoice. Also I occasionally need to OCR a scan (generated by xsane). Oh yeah, and to get on the corporate VPN connection. For running MS Office (when OOo won't format something right), I use it directly under CrossOver office.

      Most of the time spent in each vmware session is downloading fixes from windows update though...

      Now do I get to meet Bill? I have to admit though he did write some of the "OS" for my favorite computer (Model 100)

    6. Re:I use Windows at work! by MoaDweeb · · Score: 1

      Windows is great! If it wasn't for Bill and his sloppy code writing pals I would not have a job as a Support Tech!

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    7. Re:I use Windows at work! by Boone^ · · Score: 1

      Mike Marty?

  10. ObSimpsons by antiphoton · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bill Gates: Buy him out, boys! Oh, you don't think I became the richest man in the world by writing checks, do you?

  11. A passion for windows by Paraplex · · Score: 2, Funny

    I remember when I passionately threw my windows 98 laptop at the ground... does that count?

    1. Re:A passion for windows by Anti+Frozt · · Score: 1

      Absolutely!

      You've demonstrated your passion for Windows by finding a way to make it go faster. After all, nothing accelerates Windows like a good 9.8 m/s^2

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  12. Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of people seem to be passionate about Macs, Linux and some Unix variants. But I've never known anyone who is really passionate about windows, some people prefer it to other operating systems but nobody really seems to love it. I could understand apple doing this, but I think Microsoft might have difficulty finding people who really love windows.

    1. Re:Passion by shibbie · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You need to speak to my last boss... he was a Microsoft ISV. The passion came from seeing the money roll in.

    2. Re:Passion by xtracto · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh man, that is because you did not worked in this place where I used to work, they are trying to be Microsoft Gold partners or something like that and the Chief is certainly a Microsoft Windows Fanboy (tm).

      So yup, I have had the chance to work with two or three MS and Windows fanboys/zealots, whatever

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    3. Re:Passion by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Funny
      I've never known anyone who is really passionate about windows

      You don't know any passionate Windows hater?
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    4. Re:Passion by strider44 · · Score: 1

      If I were you I wouldn't say I'd had anything to do with them, let alone give their URL. What a truly horrific web site, annoying music and all.

    5. Re:Passion by Gumshoe · · Score: 3, Interesting
      But I've never known anyone who is really passionate about windows
      I knew someone once who threatened to punch me if I didn't retract an innocent assertion that OS/2 was a pretty good Operating System. Really. He was adamant that OS/2 was somehow a threat to Windows 95 and is holding the computing world back. Yes, he was a wanker.

      I realise this guy is an aberration but whenever I read a complaint about "Open Source Zealots" or whomever, I remember this guy.
    6. Re:Passion by Golias · · Score: 1

      I've meet several people in my life who claimed to be MS zealots.

      Turns out that every last one of them was a Microsoft "Solutions Provider" who made their living off selling Windows-based IT solutions.

      Strangely, none of their customers matched that enthusiasm.

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    7. Re:Passion by Cylix · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah...

      They don't come around me anymore...

      One of my friends was basically touting the "new and improved" tcp stack in 2k. He didn't quite say it like that, but that's the gist of it.

      He had been going over and over features at this point and I assurred him everything he mentioned we already had.

      However, I couldn't forgive the tcp stack mad loving...

      So I stopped while we were walking...

      Turned to him and informed him... it was a very nice stack... quite nice... one of the best...

      Oh yes... it was also the BSD tcp stack.. not msft.

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    8. Re:Passion by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unix/Linux Zealots push technical superiority.

      Mac Xealots push design superiority.

      Windows Zelots push the fact that they put in a lot of time and effort into it, and they just can't turn back now.

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    9. Re:Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mac Xealots push design superiority.

      Yeah. Them apple fanboys do seem to like flashy, superficial and no brainer stuffs. This is why many of us are against them --- imagine if their philosophy prevailed... what would the world become? Image is everything, substance comes next. Not much hope for mankind.

      Hopes you get modded up.

    10. Re:Passion by bheer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not to be trollish, but -- IMHO -- Macs and Linux are loved because they're used mostly by committed users who have made an active choice to use what they do.

      But I've never known anyone who is really passionate about windows, some people prefer it to other operating systems but nobody really seems to love it.

      You make a very interesting point: most non-corporate buyers today will not be able to tell you why they chose Windows, beyond a "It's what I'm familiar with" or "Everyone else uses it" or "My bottle-carving program runs on it". Windows is an externally enforced choice for most people. So far so good, and by now the slashbots would be frothing about how great it'd be if only the evil M$ was broken up so that people could finally Choose(tm).

      Problem: if MS were to go away, something else would take its place, say Linux. When that happens, when Linux is mandated across broad swathes of business, you can be quite sure that the crowd of lusers that you now have would bring the inevitable kvetching about how The Computer Ate My Work(tm). No amount of telling them '..but Linux is stable!' will help: they'd sooner believe that the computer is a piece of shit than admit a mistake.

      And oh: this is already happening today: We have a CRM app that runs crossplatform on Moz and IE, and quite a few of our customers (call centers who want their IT as lean-and-mean as possible) have standardized on Linux/OO.o because their users don't need much more. I've been to a few of these places, and FWIW the IT staff at at these places are happy as clams but user satisfaction has not gone up (it has actually dipped in a couple of places but I'm willing to pin that on poor retraining). Of course, none of this means anything except anecdotally but your post made me wonder how passionate a user in these companies would be about Linux.

    11. Re:Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well having seen the Microsoft HQ in Mexico I suppose there are quite a few fanboys swigging tequila and chewing marisco's in the zona rosa..

    12. Re:Passion by TomorrowPlusX · · Score: 1

      I've met a fair number of windows fans.

      Wait, no, no that's not what I meant. Rather, I've met people who use windows, but who ridicule with maximum contempt anybody who *doesn't* run windows.

      E.g., people who say: "Wait, you're a programmer, and you use a *mac*? Do they even have compilers for macs?!" I'm not kidding.

      So, in my personal experience, I've never met somebody who had anything good to say about windows, only ill to say about anything else. Which is funny because I have a lot of good things to say about windows -- good OpenGL implementations, good support for 3rd party devices, good development toolchains, it's *fast*, etc etc -- and you couldn't pay me to run windows.

      Finally, this all ties into my hypothesis regarding windows usage: It's nothing but stockholm syndrome ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome ). People have been abused by windows, for so long, that they feel some sort of sympathy for Microsoft.

      They can't imagine any other situation, because it seems natural to them. And anybody who doesn't experience that situation, is either an idiot, or is up to no good.

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    13. Re:Passion by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

      A lot of Windows/DOS enthusiasts just don't know any better - an intel box with what came on it was their only chance to get a a computer, at least back in the 80's.

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    14. Re:Passion by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      A lot of people seem to be passionate about Macs, Linux and some Unix variants. But I've never known anyone who is really passionate about windows, some people prefer it to other operating systems but nobody really seems to love it. I could understand apple doing this, but I think Microsoft might have difficulty finding people who really love windows.

      What, are you kidding? :-) MS recently held WinHEC and people paid to get in there to get information about their upcoming technologies to praise on their websites. Neowin.net is among Internet's largest forum communities, and the majority are Windows users that explicitly write they prefer Windows.

      I know it can be hard to grasp if you're mostly a Slashdot reader and/or mostly hang around in F/OSS communities, but Microsoft will have tons and tons of users praising Windows to choose from.

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    15. Re:Passion by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You havent really looked at Apples a lot lately. Espcetilly compared to the other OS's out OSX is fairly plain interface. (Maybe flasy compared to FVWM) Yea there are some transperencies and some shadowing but it is about the same as the other modern GUI. But without all the IN_YOUR_FACE graphics that Windows and other WMs provide. The Design superioity is more to the way that things are handled on the mac. Where you can get most things done with simple steps, like typing in what you want to see into spotlight and rather quickly get the list of matches. Or being able drag your files into nested folders with spring loaded folders, and many other features that just making the computer productive.

      Also with Linux/Unix technical superitory I don't mean to say that Linux and Unix have the cleanest and fastest code on earth but are built for technical user with choices of tools that are optimesed for their jobs. And after a bit of training they can do very powerful things quickly.

      While Windows fanboys just try to be smug and go We have 90% market share so Neaa!! And are afrid that they made a bad choice so they will be defensive about their investment.

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    16. Re:Passion by HerbieStone · · Score: 1
      But I've never known anyone who is really passionate about windows [...]

      You should visit the site from this guys.

      Okay, the page wasn't updated in a while. But I still think it's funny :)

    17. Re:Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow ... and when clicking on that website on the link from Microsoft Certified partners going to http://www.microsoft.com/latam/socios/certifiedpar tner/default.asp
      the site from MS says ... "An error occurred on the server when processing the URL. Please contact the system administrator."

      Nice one Bill :-) ...

    18. Re:Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent is the most insightful think I have read this year. It must be preserved for future generations to know. Please mod it up. Allow Insightful +6 if necessary!

    19. Re:Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a few complete mewling morons over at ArsTechnica's Battlefront forum that are eternally wanting to fuck Bill Gates in the stink. They'd be good for this. Other than them, I don't know of anyone stupid enough to use "passion" and "Microsoft Windows" in the same sentence to convey a postive sentiment towards MS's product.

    20. Re:Passion by Locutus · · Score: 1

      You've obviously not met any of the latest crop of virus and spam-zombie writers. They are probably "passionate" about Windows.

      Another place for Bill to look to is all the Windows repair people/businesses. Unlike the fabled "Maytag repairman", the Windows repairmen always have plenty of work. They just love Microsoft Windows. It makes them alot of money.

      LoB

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    21. Re:Passion by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      The current problem at my work is the mindset of "We have someone to blame for it breaking."

      So, instead of having flexibility, security, and stability... we have to pay $100/hr to call a pile of Indians for MS support.

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    22. Re:Passion by bmajik · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's entirely false for me.

      I like windows because i have _no_ time invested in it, and i dont need to invest time in it.

      When i come home from work, the last thing i want to do is spend more time screwing with cantankerous computers. I wave the mouse, the screen lights up, and i am doing whatever i want to be doing with the computer. The web browser renders every page correctly. The email program is perfectly fast even though i have thousands of messages. My terminal emulator running a text-mode irc client hasn't spun out of control consuming all my ram. Visual Studio has been minimized for days and i breifly restore it to see what i was last "working on" at home in my hobbyist coding hours.

      This is windows xp for me. I spent about 2 hours assembling this machine from parts that newegg sent me and about another 2 hours getting xp, office 2003, and a few other apps installed on it. I haven't had to do a single thing to it sense.

      I'd say my time investment is pretty low. That's precisely how i like it.

      I've spent much more time trying to get an Aironet 352 working smoothly on OS X. I've spent a bunch more time trying to help my wife troubleshoot her ibook G4's sleep-of-death problem. (her powerbook G3 had it also, and i've spent a bunch of time on _that_ thing)

      I suppose thta i haven't spent much time on my OpenBSD machine.. i put in "the time" on that thing a few years ago and i mostly forget i even have it apart from every few months wanting to do something or other with it. Which requires 2-4 hours of reading and mucking.

      Of course, im not a "zealot" for any of these platforms. I use all of them at home, but the machine with me physically sitting at it the most is windows, yet it requires the least "effort" by far.

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    23. Re:Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think that WinHEC etc. attendance is so much an indication of being passionate about Windows, but more of an indication of reverence for Microsoft as a corporation.

      There are a lot of people who admire success in and of itself, and who want to hear about what Microsoft is doing next, hoping to figure out what the Next Big Thing(tm) is.

      It's a bit like fashion - a lot of people consider it important to be in touch with the mainstream and especially the "cutting edge" of the mainstream.

    24. Re:Passion by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah, same where I work, too (no link, because I still have to work here for a while). We're a Microsoft Gold Partner, but The MD has taken this to mean we aren't even allowed to run a single Linux server or FLOSS app, in case MS (somehow) find out and decide to withdraw our MSGP status in a fit of pique. Not, of course, that they've ever even vaguely indicated they would do so, but there you go....

      So, here I am, forced to develop dynamic web content in (hackcoughspit) ASP.NET, re-inventing the wheel each time because you Just Don't Get the equivalent of CPAN for proprietary MS-culture languages, on my local machine, to be deployed on servers currently too old to run the .NET platform until they get a hardware upgrade, which was scheduled for six months ago but still won't happen for at least the next six months because we simply don't have the budget for it, doing nothing that couldn't be done in a fraction of the time, with a fraction of the resources and a fraction of the fucking about in Perl or PHP.

      Typical Quote: Our "Director of Innovation" (that's "innovation" in the Microsoft sense, too) once noticed FileZilla on my machine. His reaction? "Get that dirty free software off my machines right now". Oh yes, and every project anyone undertakes has to be done in a language he can speak, just in case they ever decide to leave and he decides to start managing it directly himself.

      He only can only code in VB.

      Apparently he once tried to learn C for three weeks, but gave up "because it was too hard".

      Oh yeah, and this is a multi-million-GPB company.

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    25. Re:Passion by xtracto · · Score: 1

      You mean you are in the UK??

      Oh crap... you see, I am studying in UK right now, and I was pondering to start working after finishing my PhD, because UK £££ are quite better than MX $$$... But of course I was thinking in working on some place like Last.fm or a nice Open Minded (tm) company.

      I hope I can find it when I need to =o) as I can see there are a lot of jobs on the IT here in the UK (just uploaded my CV to one page and at the next day they called me)

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    26. Re:Passion by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It seems like you have a lot of time invested into it. You got your system to run the way you wanted it. You know windows you know how it works. That didn't come naturally. When you were younger you probably used older versions of windows and you learned how to use different bits and peaces over time.

      While it may not be good meaurable time learning windows it is still an investment in your time. And you combine all your experice using windows you find that you have a Lot of time invested into it. And switching to a different type of working will require you to start over from scratch again.

      The same things happen to me when I was using Linux as my primary OS (I am now using OS X) going back to a windows system was very fustrating because all my command I knew by heart wasn't there. Having windows do a simple job like downloading a webpage once an hour and check for important change and notifiy me by email when the change was mad is a large task which can be easilly done with Linux. I have been using Linux sience 1994 and I know how to get around the system much like you probably have been using windows sience 1995 or earlier with 3.1 and DOS.

      SO the truth is that you have invested a lot of time in windows and know how to deal with its problems. Vs. Fixing your Aironet working on OS X. I am sure if you were using OS X for years and OS 9 before that you will have a better understanding on how to get it to work on the ibook.

      So the statement is true for you except for the fact your time was spreadout so your investment is hard to quantify.

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    27. Re:Passion by megarich · · Score: 1
      I agree with you about no one really being passionate about windows but they won't have diffculty finding a mark.

      You'll get some wannabe tech guy who would do anything to meet anybody that is a big name or you'll get the soccer mom who loves her computer, what it can do for her, knows it runs windows so she loves microsoft.

      I can see it now "Dear Mr. Gates, I love how I can send e-mail all around the world and keep in touch with family members using msn. Your windows os made this all possible for me and I think you from the bottom of my heart"....blah

    28. Re:Passion by satchelpaige · · Score: 1
      I think the main difference here is that Mac & Linux fans love their respective products because they are both fairly innovative and thinking ahead of the curve for the most part.

      The idea of someone being 'passionately in love' with Windows is so laughable to all of us primarily because MS has been nothing but reactionary and predictable.

      I honestly don't think that if Apple had the market share instead of MS that there would be the same amount of bashing.. At the risk of sounding like a fanboy, I have to say that everyone I've known that has switched to Mac has been amazed at the stability and uptime and lack of neverending configuration hoop-jumping.

      Most people just plain have no idea that there is a better way to do it, or that you can have a digital life that is free from endless patches and conflicts.

      Unfortunately, the flipside to this is that most people don't really think about or care about user experience, as long as their computer was really cheap at Costco and will "run the internets."

    29. Re:Passion by mangu · · Score: 1
      user satisfaction has not gone up


      Given the situation you mention, it's probably because they couldn't install the software they had before for whatever non-work related reason they had. However, assuming a totally netural user who had never used a computer before, a pre-installed Linux system today would be friendlier than a similar XP system.


      For instance, I recently ripped a CD to mp3. It was years since I last did that, so instead of trying to recall the exact syntax for cdda2wav and lame, I decided to try a GUI program for that. Full procedure:

      1)Insert CD
      2)Click on K->multimedia->"MP3 converter". A program called KAudioCreator starts. This program automatically consults a CDDB server, and shows a window with all the tracks in the CD, along with the artist and song names.
      3)Click on the "select all tracks" button
      4)Click on the File->Convert menu
      5)Get your mp3 files as a set of files in mp3/Artist_Name/Album_name/Artist_Name_-_Song_Name .mp3

      That's it. There isn't anything even remotely as friendly as this on XP, starting with the fact that XP doesn't come with an mp3 converter software. I don't know what is the software to convert a CD to mp3 in XP, and have no idea where to download one. Remember, we are assuming someone who never used a computer before, but has heard somewhere that you can put music from a CD to a computer.


      Another point where Linux is easier on newcomers is that the file and web browser is the same, at least on KDE. In the KDE vs Gnome decision, konqueror is one of the KDE applications that I consider a "killer". I know of no other application that integrates the web so seamlessly in a computer, and at the same time being so friendly in handling local files.


      Take another typical application for non-technical users: viewing photographs. In konqueror the photos are displayed automatically as thumbprints. When you move the cursor over them, a popup shows details about the picture, including the f-stop and shutter speed used by the camera. In XP's file browser, OTOH, all images are shown by default as the same icon. I know there's an option for showing them as thumbs, but that's something a raw beginner wouldn't know how to set up.


      As I said, I believe that the biggest resistance to Linux would be from intermediate users, people who would have to learn again how to do some things they already know. But I don't think Linux would ever be as hated as Microsoft is today. First, even if some people do stupid things and blame the computer, they are less likely do do stupid things in a system like KDE+Linux than in XP. And second, Linux evolves. See my CD ripping example above. Years ago that was a complicated set of console commands, today it's an easy to use GUI program that even finds the music titles for you using CDDB.

    30. Re:Passion by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      That's about the exact opposite of my experience with Windows. I have experience with Windows, Linux, and OS X. Linux still takes a bit of technical knowledge to configure, but is ultra reliable. OS X is reliable and easy to use, it's the best of both worlds. Windows tries to be easy to use, but ultimately dumbs everything down too much. Additionally, Windows has a tendancy to "stroke off" (pause for a few seconds) during certain tasks. I guess it's a problem with process scheduling. And don't get me started on Windows file locking, or a dozen other annoyances.

    31. Re:Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a truly horrific web site, annoying music and all.

      It's like a "go Microsoft" porno.

    32. Re:Passion by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 1

      Don't get me wrong - the majority of UK companies (IMO) are quite good. It's only this particular one I'm working for Just Doesn't Get It.

      Not sure what the UK job market's currently like, but a year ago (when I started working here) it was starting to pick up a bit after a couple of years of downturn. Either way, with a solid year here under my belt (well, banging my head against the wall, but...) it could well be time to move on. Guess I'd better re-immerse myself in the job market then, and see what the temperature's like - anyone our there in Slashdotland know?

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    33. Re:Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL... I can't believe that guy got hate mail from people who thought he was serious!

    34. Re:Passion by bheer · · Score: 1

      I have to say that everyone I've known that has switched to Mac has been amazed at the stability and uptime and lack of neverending configuration hoop-jumping.

      The only way the Mac would be used by a wider section of the market was if it supported crappier hardware. And if the Mac OS supported crappier hardware it too would have a pretty bad rep. (Note that this is not the only reason why Windows gets a bad rep, but it is an important reason.)

      The idea of someone being 'passionately in love' with Windows is so laughable to all of us primarily because MS has been nothing but reactionary and predictable.

      Actually, I'd be quite alarmed to meet anyone 'passionately in love' with Windows, OSX or Linux. I like Linux and think OSX looks neat, but 'passionately love'? It's an OS, for pete's sake. That's kinda like saying I love my screwdriver-set passionately.

    35. Re:Passion by satchelpaige · · Score: 1
      Actually, I'd be quite alarmed to meet anyone 'passionately in love' with Windows, OSX or Linux. I like Linux and think OSX looks neat, but 'passionately love'? It's an OS, for pete's sake. That's kinda like saying I love my screwdriver-set passionately.

      Ha. Point taken... Maybe love is too strong a word.. but I'll tell you what, when I get home from work (Windows) and finally get back to my Mac, I let out a barely audible sigh of relief and contentment, every day.

      This post is seriously close to falling into obnoxious sticky-sweet OS fandom.. (too late?) so I will cut it short.. The fact is, its widely known that there are plenty of people who do have a high level of allegiance and dedication to their non-Windows OSs..(Most of which I would guess have to split their time with a Windows box and see the contrast between the two regularly)

      This goes back to my previous point about Joe Sixpack not caring about other OSs because they have never cared nor had the opportunity to try anything else. I think for most, once you see the difference between Windows / Linux or Windows / OSX, you understand what the hoopla is about.

    36. Re:Passion by bheer · · Score: 1

      However, assuming a totally netural user who had never used a computer before

      The 'totally neutral user' is sort of like the Abominable Snowman, much discussed but difficult to pin down in reality.

      Metric time makes complete sense too, for people who've never been exposed to a calendar system before. And base-8 is totally natural if you didn't know base-10. The point is, Windows is so ubiquitous that there are very few totally neutral users, except maybe people living under forced scarcity like North Korea.

      The vast untouched pool of 3rd world citizens Slashdot salivates about? Yes, Linux is touching them (witness all the OEM Linux-preloaded PCs selling in China and India), but so does Windows (witness the pirated CDs of XP being passed around), and currently it looks like Windows is winning.

      And oh yeah -- there are really poor, uneducated citizens in countries like India for whom *both* Linux and Windows GUIs would be hard: because the Desktop/Folder metaphor itself is meaningless for them (Web-style forms based interfaces work better, probably because guv'mint bureaucracy has made everyone capable of recognizing a form).

      Anyway, enough yammering-- I just wanted to say I really wish Linux evangelists wouldn't use this 'neutral user' line: it makes them look bad, almost as if they're telling users it's their fault: "oh this OS is perfect, it's just that your mind is too contaminated to experience the goodness of it." That, IMO, is the wrong message to send when you're migrating users from one OS to another.

    37. Re:Passion by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 0

      I've never known anyone who is really passionate about windows

      That's absoultely not true. Plenty of people here hate it with a passion.

    38. Re:Passion by bheer · · Score: 1

      Sorry for the double reply--

      I've worked with new users (way back). We used Windows, Mac, and even a couple of custom interfaces we created ourselves in college.

      1) The biggest challenge new users face is the keyboard and (if they're older) the mouse. The single mouse button helps. Young children like the mouse but are (very briefly) foxed by the sheer number of buttons on a keyboard.

      2) Trying to read onscreen is the next challenge (for older people).

      There's no way a new user would shoot for a goal-directed task like "burn CDs to MP3". If he's thinking on that level he's NOT a new user.

      I've seen inexperience users ask around for how to rip MP3s in 1998 (unfriendly answer: LAME, friendly answer: MusicMatch), download MusicMatch, install it (Windows installation is not as hard as people make it out to be), pop a CD in and press the big red button that says 'Record'. And today Windows Media Player 10 has this friggin' huge Rip button on the main screen.

      Photographs... I know there's an option for showing them as thumbs

      XP shows them as thumbnails or slideshows by default if they're in My Pictures, which is exactly where a new user would place them, seeing that XP-ready image programs use that location as their default save folder in the File Save As dialog.

      I know of no other application that integrates the web so seamlessly in a computer, and at the same time being so friendly in handling local files.

      Apart from IE, you mean (although I grant it isn't very friendly)? Although -- sharing a systemwide HTML renderer is nice, but I'm not sure what user benefit there is in the file explorer and the browser being the same program (unless the file explorer is a web interface, which it's not in either IE or Konq). All it adds is two modes to Konquerer that can only confuse the casial user.

    39. Re:Passion by dasunt · · Score: 1

      You don't hang out in the right IRC channels.

      I've been banned for criticizing windows (including an observation about the limitations of MS Paint).

      If that isn't rampant windows fanboyism, I'm not sure what is...

    40. Re:Passion by mangu · · Score: 1
      I'm not sure what user benefit there is in the file explorer and the browser being the same program (unless the file explorer is a web interface, which it's not in either IE or Konq)


      In konqueror, the file explorer *is* a web interface. Among the advantages, you can easily drag-and-drop links from a website to any local directory. To do that on XP, you need to open two different programs, IE and Windows Explorer, and you cannot drag-and-drop if IE is maximized because then you cannot see the other window.


      You can also view local html files in konqueror. Konqueror, being a KDE app, has an easy way to plug in file viewers, so that most files are opened in the file browser window. Suppose you have a pdf file inside a zipped file. To view it in XP you end up with three different windows, in konqueror it's done transparently. Click on the zipped file, the directory inside is shown, click on the pdf file and its content is shown. But you prefer to open it in a separate window? Middle-click it. And this is a consistent feature, middle-click on a link in a web page and the link is opened in a separate window.


      All it adds is two modes to Konquerer that can only confuse the casial user.


      There aren't "two modes" in konqueror. You can create and save different "profiles", and normally distros have at least two different profiles, one optimized for local files and the other for web browsing. The main difference is that for web browsing one usually has an external default home page, while for file browsing the default page is one's home directory. Also, for local file browsing one usually has the home directory visible in a tree at the left side, but this can be easily turned on and off with the F9 key.


      But you are right, this can be confusing, a single profile could be used for both activities. I suppose they put these two different profiles because "everybody knows" that you need separate programs for file management and web browsing.


      I remember how reluctant I was to use windows 95. It was only when my company adopted it as a standard that I switched from 3.11. All in all, for the average user, a transition from XP to KDE is less troublesome than moving from windows 3.11 to windows 95.

    41. Re:Passion by bheer · · Score: 1

      To do that on XP, you need to open two different programs, IE and Windows Explorer, and you cannot drag-and-drop if IE is maximized because then you cannot see the other window.

      In IE: View | Explorer Bar | Folders. Or add the Folders button to your toolbar. Drag-and-drop is now quite easy.

      To view it in XP you end up with three different windows, in konqueror it's done transparently.

      Write a zip plugin for IE and you'll have done it in one. However, I'm thankful no one's done it (yet) because I'm not sure where this fetish for single-window mode came from (I have a hunch it's from command-line refugees using bad window managers, or from browseristas who insist on applying the back/forward browser model everywhere) but what's wrong with three windows? Why does everything have to be done within the shell/browser?

    42. Re:Passion by Dolda2000 · · Score: 1
      That's not strange or unexpected by any means, though -- How could a user appreciate something that (s)he doesn't even know what it is (that is, the O/S)?

      The point that I believe that the GP wanted to make is this: It's far easier to find a user who is passionate about Linux/UNIX/OSX/WhatHaveYou, while it's very hard to find a user who is passionate about Windows. Even though there are far more users of Windows in total!

    43. Re:Passion by krunk4ever · · Score: 1

      That's not exactly true. I've worked at a University Campus and the department I worked in was all about Windows. There were a few mac users, but our support to them was limited and during my stay, 1 of the 4 mac users went to a different department. 1 got switched to Windows, and the other 2 are pending.

      One of my colleagues even said that microsoft has a solution for every need that he'll ever have. This was in response to me installing firefox into many computers. ;p

      But as I was saying, all the servers we run are Windows 2003. Most of the computers we run are Windows XP. I'm not sure if this is true, but one of them said when they build small business servers for outside contracts, things just work.

      Btw, have you seen the outlook exchange server (where you can access your email data directly through a webpage that has an interface that looks EXACTLY like Outlook). How neat is that!?!?! i was first shown it a couple months ago and was amazed!

    44. Re:Passion by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 1

      And by SSH'ing into a Linux/Unix based machine that has X programs, I can remotely run them as NATIVE programs on MY desktop.

      I can run Konqueror on Windows, AirSnort on Windows, and many other Linux-based programs as a program on Windows via remote running and display.

      The closest MS can do is RDP, a pitiful attempt for true remote desktops and remote apps. On a huge network, it blurs what exactly YOUR computer is...

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    45. Re:Passion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well .. that's because you know the wrong people :)
      Not that is anything wrong with them as humans , but the people you know are just of an anti-windows-microsoft-bill-gates type.

    46. Re:Passion by strider44 · · Score: 1

      *cough* I spent a half hour installing Mandrake on a new computer, and it came with an Office program, a messaging program, games, dev programs, browser and email et al, so two hours is quite unimpressive in my books.

      And yes it "just worked".

    47. Re:Passion by Jakeypants · · Score: 1

      So if we like Windows we're fanboys or zealots, but if we like Linux, we're enthusiasts. /. groupthink at work.

      I'm not too familiar with Linux, but I work on OSX all day, and I hate it - I've seen quite the opposite of what everyone says. My OSX system keeps hanging, has completely crashed twice to their equivalent of BSODing (only when running Classic Mode apps though), and I find the GUI irritating.

      Windows XP has been nothing but stable for me, and I've never seen a development environment as powerful and streamlined as Visual Studio.NET 2003. Haven't BSODd since my 98/ME days. XP, as far as I'm concerned, fixed everything that everyone complains about in Windows. The default color scheme is godawful, though.

      I really don't care that you prefer Linux or OSX or whatever, and you really shouldn't care that I prefer Windows.

  13. It does drive my passion: by wild_berry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd like to thank Mr Bill Gates for his product because it does drive my passion: to be involved with a hobby project that provides better software than his professional company does.

    Do I win?

  14. Why did they bother to post this then? by AltGrendel · · Score: 1

    Profess a love for Windows. No one here is eligible, well 90% anyway.
    Well sure, someone could lie just to meet him and then tell them what they really thing, but I'm sure the vetting process would weed those folks out.

    --
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    - Douglas Adams

    1. Re:Why did they bother to post this then? by NickFortune · · Score: 1
      I thought about that, but the odds are against, even if you sound sincere in your deceptions.

      Just imagine - twenty thousand slashdot linux fanatics all striving mightily to outdo one another in praising windows, in the hope that one of them might get a a chance to spit in the great man's eye.

      Then MS awards it to some staffer's pretty daughter in law who is known to hate Linux and proceedes to launch an ad campaign fuelled largely by those who hate MS. And Bill and Steve laugh all the way to the bank!

      Nope, it's just not worth it.

      --
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  15. Dear Bill, by hplasm · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have used Windows for many years and now have a huge collection of porn/spyware. Does this count as an obsession/hobby?

    --
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  16. Suddenly I feel like David Carradine... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...Microsoft is offering a number of prizes, including the chance to meet Gates in Seattle...

    Anyone here old enought to remember Death Race 2000? Remember why Frankenstein (David Carradine) wanted so badly to win the race?

    ^_^

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    1. Re:Suddenly I feel like David Carradine... by mwlewis · · Score: 1

      Ahh, one of my favorites. My friends and I love to have Bad Movie Nights, although the first half of the movie isn't nearly as entertaining as the end.

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    2. Re:Suddenly I feel like David Carradine... by the_xaqster · · Score: 1

      You are not going to be able to get me to admit that I am old enough to remember Sylvester Stallone as Joe ViTurbo. Oh, Hang on....

      --
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    3. Re:Suddenly I feel like David Carradine... by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Because only the winner gets to shake the hand of Mr. President. Then he reveals his "hand", which is a grenade.

    4. Re:Suddenly I feel like David Carradine... by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      I'm not old enough to remember the original release, but I made up for that by buying it on DVD.

      Machine Gun Joe gunning down the audience for cheering on Frankenstein is one of the greatest scenes in movie history.

      --
      Eat the rich.
  17. That was awesome! by Nytewynd · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want to win just to pull the old Chris Farley interview from SNL.

    Me: Remember that time you released windows?
    Bill: Yeah
    Me: That was awesome!

    --
    /. ++
    1. Re:That was awesome! by Golias · · Score: 1

      I want to win just to pull the old Chris Farley interview from SNL.

      The bit practically writes itself.

      Nytewynd: So... um... did you, like, um... you know the mouse? Did you invent that?

      Bill: No. I think that was Doug Engelbart.

      Nytewynd: Oh. But, that was awesome, huh?

      Bill: Yes, I suppose it was.

      Nytewynd: Yeah. (Jeez, I'm so stupid! God!)

      Bill: Take it easy, you're doing fine.

      Nytewynd: Oh. Thanks. So... um... do you remember that time when you said... um... when you said (looks at paper) 640K should be enough for anybody? Do you remember that?

      Bill: Well, I get a lot a grief for that old soundbite, but the truth is...

      Nytewynd: That was so awesome!

      and so on...

      --

      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    2. Re:That was awesome! by duffer_01 · · Score: 1

      I bet he doesn't live in a van down by the river!

  18. pursue a passion or hobby by bushboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hi There Bill, please consider me !

    I use Windows to persue my hobbies, which include :-

    phishing, spamming, cracking and distributing illegal files via p2p !

    I have a real passion for windows !

    --
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    1. Re:pursue a passion or hobby by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 1

      It would be a good idea for some security folks to band together and create something like the "anonymous abuser" from the idea of "anonymous soldier" and nominate it. I can already see the floods of comments/open letters/opinion columns targeted at this.

      --
      It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
      Be yourself no matter what they say
    2. Re:pursue a passion or hobby by Kurt+Gray · · Score: 1

      Dear Bill, I love having Windows so that I can run Cygwin! It's almost like having a real Linux system!

  19. Win98 by ONOIML8 · · Score: 1

    So if I tell my story of how failures with Win98 pushed me to proficient at Solaris at work and switch to Linux at home....how tinkering with Linux based computers became my main hobby...that's what they're looking for, right?

    --
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  20. This story brings about images of the end prison planet scene of the Jet Li movie 'The One'. With Jet Li's character being Bill Gates and the the marauding mongol prison hordes being /.'ers.

    1. Re:Ha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I am Bill Gates. I am nobody's bitch!"

  21. Terror Storys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if they asked for Terror Storys they would get a lot more of feedback.

  22. Homey D Clown by Gothmolly · · Score: 0

    This is my chance to finally get to meet The Man. Perhaps he will make me kiss his ring. But, I'll have my loaded sock ready...

    --
    I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
  23. Linux users need not apply. by yoder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sounds like Uncle Bill is taking a page from Nature Boy's playbook. Filter those who have access to you so you never have to hear an opposing opinion.

    --
    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act!" -- George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair)
  24. hero by nazsco · · Score: 1

    now you just have to learn the 10-foot-unblockable-move

    1. Re:hero by Beautyon · · Score: 0

      Oh to have mod points!!!

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  25. Picture of gates on beech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a picture of bill and some lady on the beech, who wants it, no one!

  26. A chance to meet Gates by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

    Oh goody
    *Loads his riffle and dawns camoflage gear* um im just going duck hunting

    --
    The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
  27. Dear Bill, by jmrobinson · · Score: 1

    If it weren't for windows, all my plants would die. Therefore, I love windows. PS You should try Debian, it is teh better...

  28. Wait a minute... by esconsult1 · · Score: 1

    Wonder who he could be taking a cue from? Is Carl Rove advising Microsoft in the fine art of the "favourable crowd"?

  29. Perhaps... by linuxci · · Score: 1

    Perhaps people could bombard Microsoft with stories of how windows has made their life easier and then end it with something like "oh wait, I was using (a Mac|Linux|Specturum 48k|...)".

    It'd keep a few people in a job having to go through all those ;)

  30. I use mine by LordSnooty · · Score: 1

    I use mine to prop the door open. Put me on the telly, Bill!

  31. passionatly bashing windows? by DigitumDei · · Score: 1

    Slashdotters bash windows with a passion, some do it so much it could be considered a hobby, does that count?

    1. Re:passionatly bashing windows? by tehshen · · Score: 1

      I dropped out of it as a hobby - now I bash Windows as a profession.

      --
      Guy asked me for a quarter for a cup of coffee. So I bit him.
  32. the pope? by hotrodman · · Score: 1

    I don't think you have to be a professed Catholic just to meet the pope do you? Or profess undying allegiance? How is BillG different?

    Bill Gates is still a mortal like everyone else.

    - E

    1. Re:the pope? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Bill Gates is still a mortal like everyone else."

      That's yet to be proved.

      Nemo

  33. Passion and hobby.. by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine is very much suicidal, and has a passion for running into life-threatening troubles. I guess I can suggest this to him.

    It may give him some purpose in life.

    Thank you very much, CNET.

  34. My Submission by HaydnH · · Score: 1

    "Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby." Dear Bill Gates, I have a passion for computer security, part of this passion involves finding exploits in software - thank you ever so much for making my hobby so frickin easy! Yours, Script Kiddie

    --
    Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. - Douglas Adams
  35. Porn by Poromenos1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I use windows to watch porn. You AIN'T SEEN more passion than that!

    --
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  36. If a story could ever be marked as Flamebait... by Enoch+Root · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...this would be it.

    Seriously, what is the point of posting this to Slashdot? No, REALLY? Is this some kind of group anger management therapy?

    1. Re:If a story could ever be marked as Flamebait... by metricmusic · · Score: 4, Funny

      STFU u.

      --
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    2. Re:If a story could ever be marked as Flamebait... by 110010001000 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Since the parent corporation of Slashdot (LNUX on Nasdaq) is losing money they have requested Slashdot and the member websites to bring in more revenue. One way to do this is to post a higher rate of articles (haven't you noticed more articles this year than last?). The second way to do this is to post articles which are sure to bring the anti-M$/anti-Dubya crazies to the website posting insightful and frothy comments.

    3. Re:If a story could ever be marked as Flamebait... by zev1983 · · Score: 1

      You mean you didn't get your foam bat yet?

    4. Re:If a story could ever be marked as Flamebait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you insensitive clod.

    5. Re:If a story could ever be marked as Flamebait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anger management? Oh no.

      The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretense was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstacy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp.

    6. Re:If a story could ever be marked as Flamebait... by Bullfish · · Score: 1

      Yes, to post this story on slashdot is to invite vitriol. Slashdot is where Bill Gates is held responsible for all the cybercrime in the world, held responsible for Linux never being able to break beyond it's fringe OS status among the general public, responsible for the Mac never being more than a niche machine. It is also believed in this place that Billy made all his money by stealing the ideas, hopes and dream of countless geeks and using their blood, guts and fat to grease the gears of MS's machinery.

      Billy will be first against the wall when the revolution comes.

    7. Re:If a story could ever be marked as Flamebait... by nigham · · Score: 1

      i think its more like laughter therapy. these stories just generate awesome comments, don't you think?

      --
      I don't want to read /. I want to go home and re-think my life.
  37. My pursuit of windows by BitchAss · · Score: 1

    Dear Bill -

    I have often persued Windows for many hours. Sometimes it is very difficult to remember where I left my burned Windows XP CD.

    Also, whenever you release a new version of Windows, I am at my computer trying to get the 0 day FTP sites so that I can have my pirated copy of windows before anyone else. Torrents have made this much simpler to accomplish.

    So, thanks for being you!

    Love, me

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  38. I know... by DiamondGeezer · · Score: 1

    ...someone who has a passion for Windows.

    He's a window cleaner.

    --
    Tubby or not tubby. Fat is the question
  39. Passion by trandism · · Score: 1

    Hell yeah I have a passion for Windows...

    A passion rebooting them!

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    www.lemonodor.com A mostly Lisp weblog
  40. Download ISOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I use my windows XP box and DS3 connection at work to download all of my linux ISOs.

    1. Re:Download ISOs by MrEcho.net · · Score: 0

      ouch

  41. and it was like, bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep by Therlin · · Score: 1

    Well, here's one.

  42. Now's Our Chance Boys $ by ultimabaka · · Score: 1

    CS nerds are good at lying through our teeth - all we need to do is get close enough, and BANG! One less problem.

  43. Passion for Windows? by ooze · · Score: 1

    Isn't it strange, that every major player in any business has at least on product many people feel passionate about, and that are undoubtely admired by all in the know? I will stick to IT for now, but HP had the pocket calculators and really good printers. IBM has the mainframes and ThinkPads and more. Apple has so many strongly felt for products that it gets sappy...
    But can for any sake not think of any Microsoft product that gives me or anyone I know the dreamy eyes...

    --
    Just because I can imagine doing a hippopotamus, doesn't mean I'd like to do it.
    1. Re:Passion for Windows? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess Microsoft stock gave a few people dreamy eyes. After all, the one thing MS was always good in is producing cash inflow.

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    2. Re:Passion for Windows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One word... "Microsoft Bob".

      Nemo

    3. Re:Passion for Windows? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

      Can't even say this about the Xbox, while there are many that love it, they actually only love the exclusive games for it. Those games, well, they're exclusive because of Microsoft's esteemed business practices...

    4. Re:Passion for Windows? by holysin · · Score: 1

      Um, no...

      there's a fair number of people who deal with the xbox only because of a handy little program called XBMC, now *THAT* I'm passionate about (as are a couple of others ;-) ). Games like Halo 2? 'Eh, I'm getting to old to fight the kids, and getting used as target practice gets old. But offer me a $200 box that will play any media format across my network and you've got $200. ;-)

  44. Using Windows to pursue a passion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby.

    Does masochism count?

  45. Thanks, Bill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because of your Windows software, it's progession from "operating environment" to "operating system", it's continued cycle of upgrades and MS-driven support, it's wonderful array of virus software, and the closed nature of the source preventing me from ever learning anything about computers, I have been able to follow of dream of understanding computers by switching to Linux. Something that I would never had considered before using Windows.

  46. My essay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello, MircoSoft Windows is teh best! Before MircoSoft Windows, I was addicted to crack and lived on the street. Now, I am teh most successful persons on da planet. Thanks MircoSoft!

  47. My hobby is fixing computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even although I run linux myself, I spend almost all of my free time fixing Microsoft Windows for friends and family. Thanks Bill, your OS really changed my fucking life and I'm _really_ looking forward to meeting you.

    Hugs & Kisses,

    Slashdot

  48. Well, I don't particularily want to meet him... by kyle90 · · Score: 2, Funny

    but I wouldn't mind being in his will.

    --
    Real_men_don't_need_spacebars.
  49. Ahem... by cOdEgUru · · Score: 1

    Does that mean "Sell your soul, Meet the Devil?"

    *ducks*

    You would think, as a real incentive, they would throw "boobies" in there somewhere..Darn!

  50. My passion is ... by DaneelGiskard · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ... to hit my Windows machine. May I join?

  51. Sell my soul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd sell my soul for that cool national geographic prize. Only problem is I'll need to make up something cool I use windows for.

    You know playing video games and looking up pr0n isn't really ground breaking or exciting use of Windows....

  52. Well at leats in france it will be easy by matgorb · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I see the reaction I get everytime I post on French Clubic.com on why people use Windows when they could do what they do free with Linux or other, I can tell you that some people are fanatic about Windows, if I'm not called troll I got something like "You bloody OpenSource freak, why would I not use Windows when it is free and I can get tons of warez game on it..." Does using pirated Windows qualify?

  53. My passion by shibbie · · Score: 1

    My passion is helpdesk support and helping people with their Windows woes. I get first dibs.... think they'll let me play....?

  54. It really helped me with... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my security career of finding Windows vulnerabilities. Talk about job security. =)

  55. Windows is an amazing tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my line of business, without my far-reaching botnet of zombified Windows(C) machines I simply couldn't pursue my favourite hobby - depriving suckas of their hard earned cash. Yes, thanks to Windows, I can continue to spam the entirety of all the Internets, launch DDOS attacks unless they pay up, securely release new virii and circumvent law enforcement.

    BTW, I'd prefer to meet him through a proxy, should I win.

    1. Re:Windows is an amazing tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BTW, I'd prefer to meet him through a proxy, should I win.

      Hehehe - I was afraid you wanted to exploit B.G.'s security hole [evil grin] ...

  56. You mean *this* was awesome... by Nick+Driver · · Score: 4, Funny

    Balmer hawking Windows when it was first released.

    1. Re:You mean *this* was awesome... by xtracto · · Score: 1

      hey man, it looks funny but it does not have sound, anyone got a link for the video with sound??

      --
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    2. Re:You mean *this* was awesome... by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 1

      Why 'Except in Nebraska?' There's Steve-o, yelling like a used car salesman, but why couldn't he sell Windows in Nebraska? Some sort of consumer protection laws?

    3. Re:You mean *this* was awesome... by acebone · · Score: 0

      It does have sound - something must be wrong on your side

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    4. Re:You mean *this* was awesome... by Emetophobe · · Score: 1

      And it comes with REVERSI!!!!!

    5. Re:You mean *this* was awesome... by xtracto · · Score: 1

      yep, stupid me In some way when I turned down the Winamp volume the wave volume of the whole machine went down although in the Volume control panel it was still OK...

      Thnks anyway!

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      Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'
    6. Re:You mean *this* was awesome... by chochos · · Score: 1

      jesus h. christ, is that shit for real, or is he actually mocking windows? I with I had never seen the video, I feel a little like I felt after seeing the goatse guy...

    7. Re:You mean *this* was awesome... by ignorant_coward · · Score: 1

      I feel a little like I felt after seeing the goatse guy...

      Well, who wants to bet they're both the same person?

    8. Re:You mean *this* was awesome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every year MS makes parody/joke videos to liven up the annual company meetings. This is one from a year or two ago.

      It's not a real ad.

    9. Re:You mean *this* was awesome... by kinnell · · Score: 1

      Nice try Steve, but we're not buying it.

      --
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  57. I have the passion of... by master_p · · Score: 1

    ...slamming Microsoft on /. (and a fine recipie for pies)... do I win? :-)

  58. Don't forget to bring by DrXym · · Score: 4, Funny

    your stake, mallet and holy water.

  59. Too late Bill by Ailure · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I used to love Windows for... six years ago? Ten years ago I thought that the alternatives for Windows did suck. Boy how I grown up now. The last time I was impressed by Microsoft was with Win XP, but now later on I realised how indiffrent it was to Win2K.

    Boy, I regret bashing Macintosh in elementary school years...

    And oh, there is alot of Windows fans. I know, becuse I seen them. And most of the time, they're really aren't a nerd, or they're a hardcore gamer. Which is a type of nerd too infact...

    I would gladly meet Bill gates thought, even if Steve Ballmer would be a more funny guy. :)

  60. I'd rather meet Paul Allen by borkus · · Score: 1

    Especially if he let me take a ride in the 10-man submarine attached to this baby.

    1. Re:I'd rather meet Paul Allen by Locutus · · Score: 1

      I'll second that. Bill who?

      LoB

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  61. My submission by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's my submission. Do you think it will win?

  62. Phisherman Testimonial? by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 1

    Maybe we could get a phisher to write about how he loves Windows for it's ease of use in ripping off people's personal information.

    An ode to Outlook Express...

    How I turned 100 hotmail accounts into a spam powerhouse?

    Or, why I really like Windows. I get to billg@microsoft.com in the email line for all those annoying registration forms.

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  63. You fake it by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Funny

    So that at the News Conference in front of all the world media, with Bill at your side, you say, "Actually, I always use [Insert favorite Distro here] for actually doing work."

    --
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    1. Re:You fake it by Jester998 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby. (Emphasis mine)

      I guess they were afraid to ask for stories about people who use Windows in a critical environment. I think I should put an entry in:

      "My passion is screaming at my computer when it blue screens in the middle of a deathmatch. Late-night REGEDIT sessions whenever Windows hoses itself is an amusing hobby too. For everything else, there's FreeBSD."

      Damn, I wish writing all contest entry essays were that easy.

    2. Re:You fake it by zCyl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby. (Emphasis mine)

      It sounds like they're looking for people who have been motivated by the experience of Microsoft products to participate in open source development.

  64. And the name of the movie is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kill Bill

  65. 90%? by weighn · · Score: 1

    No one here is eligible, well 90% anyway

    ok slashdot, time to come clean with those web logs. Are 90% of your readers really using win32?
    Not many do profess a passion for windows, but it gets the job done for most. Move along.

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    1. Re:90%? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      Not many do profess a passion for windows, but it gets the job done for most.

      Yes! We have a winner! weighn, your unbridled enthusiasm for Microsoft's flagship have earned you a place next to Bill. Congratulations!

      --
      "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
    2. Re:90%? by weighn · · Score: 1

      thanks, now where's my pie?

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  66. Looking for someone passionate about Windows?? by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

    Yeah, good luck with that Bill. No wonder they have to conduct a nationwide search!

  67. I know your reading this you f-in hoar! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hoe

  68. Ze Vikosovt Vindovz iz your friend.... by xdavexxx · · Score: 0

    I use Microsoft Windows to power my world domination efforts. Does that count?

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    1. Re:Ze Vikosovt Vindovz iz your friend.... by kernelpanicked · · Score: 1

      Thank god. We're all safe

      --
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  69. Windows makes good money by Sathallrin · · Score: 1

    Dear Bill,
    Thank you for making an operating system that is infected with viruses and spyware. And simple enough that any idiot can use and fill up with so many viruses and spyware in only a month that the computer is unusable. So these people have to pay me frequently to clean out their systems for them. $$$

  70. I am a shoe-in with this poem by a_greer2005 · · Score: 1

    I love the way Windows crashes
    When Apple or Google come up, Microsoft bashes
    The viruses and spyware I love to hate
    for the next upgrade serve as bait
    Oh for longhorn I cannot wait
    But without walls or fences
    the world needs no windows or gates

  71. I've seen him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen him. He's rubbish.

  72. Hehe by unixmaster · · Score: 1

    I am sure all windows admins are lined up for this already =)

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    Never learn by your mistakes, if you do you may never dare to try again
  73. My experience with Windows by bcmm · · Score: 1

    I had just reinstalled Windows XP on an old computer that we had reformated to sell, and was installing the software that came with it, and explorer was crashing because it didn't want to open zip files. And every time explorer had to be started again, it popped up a bubble asking me to take a tour of the "exciting new features of Windows XP", because that is what it does when it has just been installed.

    Windows was reminding me how new and innovative it was every time it crashed. Brilliant.

    --
    # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
    Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
    1. Re:My experience with Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, I've been using XP on 3 different computers for 2+ years now without any problems.

    2. Re:My experience with Windows by Locutus · · Score: 1

      using them as paperweights doesn't count. ;-)

      BTW, I've heard stories of people who've used Windows without problems. I've just never met any of them. I figured they were related to those elfs that used to fix Kawasaki motorcycles at night. Are you an elf? ;-)

      LoB

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      "Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
    3. Re:My experience with Windows by birdie1013 · · Score: 0

      Best joke ever! Mod parent up ;-)

  74. Sept 30, Apr 1: What's the difference? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    Is this another April Fool's joke horribly late? If it isn't, I have to start making some pies and figuring out a way to slip them past security.

    --
    Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
  75. I love Windows because... by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 1

    ...it gave us the world's first example of -35 day warez.

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    When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
  76. OOH! OOH! PICK ME! PICK ME!!! by Electric+Eye · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why do I have this vision of Gates dressed as Santa and a line of geeks is waiting to sit on his lap?

    "Hi, um, Bill, er, um, Mr. Gates. I love Windows so much, I have the logo tattoed on my heiny. Want to see it?"

    "What?? That's copyright infringement!! Guards, place this manboy under arrest!!"

    1. Re:OOH! OOH! PICK ME! PICK ME!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guards, place this manboy under arrest

      And then bring him to my office. I want to show him what a REAL Windows logo tattoo looks like.

    2. Re:OOH! OOH! PICK ME! PICK ME!!! by drewzhrodague · · Score: 1

      That you, Josh? Dude, I remember when you showed me that Windows NT logo tattooed to your arm -- I couldn't believe it, and I teased you for it. I couldn't figure out why you had a multicolored serial port on the other arm, but I think you told me you had it covered up with a "balance" chip. Do you show those off at work? I guess they take you seriously, since you've been at Microsoft for a while. Here's that picture of me in front of one of those Microsoft signposts from my trip to visit a while ago. Anyway, rock-on, dewd.

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      Zhrodague.net - I do projects and stuff too.
  77. Windows is a Foil by Phoenix666 · · Score: 1

    I use to highlight the virtues of Linux.

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    Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
  78. It's Fixed by borroff · · Score: 1

    Steve Ballmer wins, hands down.

  79. Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The thing that really bugs me about Microsoft's products is how they'll fuck over paying customers.

    Here's an old by great example. Back when Win95 was released you could not natively use long file names with 16-bit apps. However, there was a product called "Name-It!" which did allow that function. In other words it was possible, but Microsoft chose NOT to implement it. Why? Because long file names was a great feature and it would give incentive to users to upgrade to new 32-bit programs.

    Another great example is Messenger, the chat program not the service. Microsoft has made it nearly impossible to get rid of. Even if you edit your sysoc.inf file and uninstall Messenger, it'll suddenly come back. Even if you delete the subfolder under Program Files, it'll mysteriously come back. Obviously Microsoft considers its chat war against AOL more important than ease of use for users.

    And of course there's product activation. We were told it was to stop piracy, but that was bull-shit. You can easy obtain pirated copies of XP. Let's face it, if it product activation really worked, then why is Microsoft implementing its anti-piracy feature for people downloading software? And even more importantly, if piracy has been decreased, then why is XP Microsoft's most expensive OS? Why aren't they passing the savings back to use? Once again, the real purpose of product activation is to screw over the paying customer who wants to install XP on both of his systems.

    And lets not forget out Microsoft's Office products are constantly screwing with file formats to make the later versions incompatible with earlier versions. Once again, this is NOT done to make it easier for paying customers. It's merely leverage to get those customer paying again and again.

    It'd be really hard to be passionate FOR Microsoft's products. It's hard to be passionate for anything that nickel and dimes you at every turn. That treats you like a criminal. And sees you merely as a cash cow to be milked at every chance.

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    If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
    1. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by mzwaterski · · Score: 1

      The messenger problem is taken care of with that new tool that they were forced to include. The name escapes me but its the program that lets you choose whether you want to use Microsoft products for things like web browser, instant messaging, etc. It is actually quite effective at removing messenger.

    2. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dont delete messenger, just find the exe and set the permissions to deny for all users - it cant run and it cant ever bother you again.

    3. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      Thanks.

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      If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
    4. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 0

      I'll look into that. Thanks.

      --
      If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
    5. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I vote for Andrew Tridgell of Samba fame and the Wine developers. One would have loved Windows so much to pursue the passion of making a way for Linux to talk to it. But then, one doesn't see hackers in the Microsoft commercials.

    6. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another great example is Messenger, the chat program not the service. Microsoft has made it nearly impossible to get rid of. Even if you edit your sysoc.inf file and uninstall Messenger, it'll suddenly come back. Even if you delete the subfolder under Program Files, it'll mysteriously come back

      Options -> 'Allow this program to run in the background', 'Run this program when Windows starts', tick off both options, Messenger is now no more. What is so hard about that, seriously?

    7. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of tips to get rid of Messenger. But I've yet to find one that actually works permanently.

      Think about it from a user perspective. You edit your sysoc.inf and uninstall the program from "Add and Remove Programs."

      Yet, it appears again.

      You check "Add and Remove Programs" and it IS uninstalled. So fire up regedit and keep it from starting up after a reboot. You also delete the subfolder under Program Files, but still, several weeks later it's mysteriously there again. Obviously installed from some *.cab file somewhere.

      What purpose does such behavior serve the user?! Really, I want to know! Why should it be SO fucking hard to simply turn off a program I never use and never will use. Heck, why should the program even fucking start in the first place?! Should I decide what programs start?!

      Even if there is some way to turn off Messenger permanently, the complexity and tenacity of it shows how little Microsoft thinks of the user. They don't give a fuck about us and they never will.

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      If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
    8. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by presarioD · · Score: 1

      Another great example is Messenger, the chat program not the service. Microsoft has made it nearly impossible to get rid of

      Have you tried: Run-> RunDLL32 advpack.dll, LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

      it appears to have worked for me...

      --
      Yam, yam, uga booga, yam, yam, yade, yade, uga booga, yam, yam, yade, yade
    9. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could use long file names with 16 bit apps under Windows 95. If you dropped to a command prompt and did a dir you would get there "short" name. As an example: "Program Files" became "PROGRA~1"

      This is the source of many of the common MICROS~1 jokes out there. If you want to know the reasons for this check into the FAT16/32 file systems. They only included enough space for a 8x3 name in there FAT tables. So, in order to fix it they started including many lines of file information that contained all of the file name. Quite often one of these lines would get screwed up and would cause the file to lose its long file name.

    10. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      > un-> RunDLL32 advpack.dll, LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

      And people call Unix cryptic.....

    11. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by song-of-the-pogo · · Score: 1

      "Set Program Access and Defaults" under the start menu.

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      soupy twist
    12. Re:Passion FOR Microsoft's products?! by BillyBlaze · · Score: 1
      Although I'm not familiar with Name-it!, here's a technical defense based on speculation as to how it works. Lets face it, programmers are often lazy, and back in the DOS days, it was very common to allocate fixed-size buffers from the stack for pathnames - you knew that each path component would be 12 characters long, and there was a limit to directory nesting. For these programs, if the operating system returns a longer name, it will clobber the stack and cause a crash, or possibly a vulnerability (though "local root" doesn't mean much in the context of Win95). Possibly Name-it! still limited the length of the overall path length, but this would still break the probably numerous programs that assume 12-character path components.

      I guess in that case, I'd actually fault MS with being too backward compatible. That's a disadvantage of closed source and commercial software - no matter how mind-numbingly stupid an interface is, you can't ever tear it out and tell people to recompile or modify their software. So we still have backslashes, we still have drive letters, every third Windows function has Ex on the end of its name, and don't even get me started about using friggin CR/LF as a line terminator...

  80. Good idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'd never block Microsoft's ads, sometimes I even click them in order to give the site some free money from Microsoft.


    From now on, I'll follow your guidance, o wise four-digit slashdot user!

  81. Your Chance to Meet Bill Gates by colliermeister · · Score: 1

    How about true stories of people driven to distraction from using Windows computers. There should be a lot more of those kind.

  82. Slashdot six months into the future: by strider44 · · Score: 1

    strider writes "An independant study has just been released showing that Microsoft Windows has a 99% approval rating amoungst IT professionals. Laura Didio claims 'This is a true heartfelt response to the huge leaps Microsoft has made in security over the past years.' Linux enthusiasts have accused the study of drawing from a sample that is slightly biased."

  83. And what would you do once you meet him? by Kirth · · Score: 1

    Probably throw a cream pie at him...

    --
    "The more prohibitions there are, The poorer the people will be" -- Lao Tse
  84. Here is my entry by master_p · · Score: 1

    From the article:

    Extra points are given to essays that demonstrate the positive impact Windows has made on someone's life.

    Dear BillG,

    Windows has had a big positive impact on my life!

    First of all, it made me learn the inner bits of C/C++ really well, because I couldn't do a decent program on Win32 without debugging the hell out of it! That led me to pursue programming as a profession, since I was one of the few persons that knew how to program the damn thing!

    Secondly, it saved me a fortune from buying condoms or other expenses. You see, with the design that Win32/MFC has, it took me hours to do even the simplest things, so I had no time to sleep, and my girlfriend dumped me since she couldn't see me at all. Windows is such a money saver!

    Thirdly (and despite the above), Windows helped my social life tremendously. Before Windows, no one paid attention to me. With Windows, me and my colleagues came closer, spending large amounts of time trying to find out why the Exchange Server is down, or why IIS was hacked again, or why the network suddently stopped working.

    Finally, Windows made me learn typing, because for every character I type I have to press Ctrl+S so as that I don't loose my file!.

    BillG, thank you so much for the 20 years of Windows!

  85. Anyone see the non-sequitur this morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - the one published in the FW Star Telegram seems to go with Mr. Gates' proposal quite well.

  86. /.ing, for good by bcmm · · Score: 1

    Can we /. this with negative stories?

    What made you start using Firefox? What made you switch to Linux/OSX/BSD? What stopped working when they crippled the TCP system in SP2? Enter all the catagories with disposable emails.

    --
    # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
    Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
  87. Passion of the Gates by ImaFraud · · Score: 1
    Dear Bill,

    I like long walks in the park and warm summer days. My hobbies include blue screens of death, collecting viruses and/or spyware, and rooting IIS servers.

  88. Windows has helped me by tomstdenis · · Score: 1

    As others pointed out...

    The utter failings of windows for serious work [re: software development] has led me to seek alternative sources [re: OSS] and eventually to GNU/Linux and GNU toolchains.

    Thanks Microsoft! Your ineptitude led me to where I am now!

    Tom

    --
    Someday, I'll have a real sig.
  89. I've met all his products and by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    frankly have no interest to meet the creator.

  90. It figures... by mangu · · Score: 1
    From your link:

    Esta página ha sido diseñada para utilizar la tecnología Flash 7 o posterior de Macromedia. Haga click aqui si está seguro de que tiene el plug-in instalado, de otra manera haga click aqui para bajar e instalar el plug-in de Flash.

    This page was designed to use Flash 7 or up technology by macromedia. Click here if you are sure you have Flash
    plug-in installed. Otherwise, click here to download Flash Player plug-in.


    It seems like windows isn't the only POS they love...

    1. Re:It figures... by xtracto · · Score: 1

      believe they are only MS focused developers. They are all really cool, and the ambience is certainly fine but imagine they told me to not go to the work with a Linux shirt (it was a shirt from a Linux Con) and to replace my Linux Pad.. (they of course gave me another of windows, but I replaced it with a pretty natural landscape mousepad).

      Although I had a great time working there I can tell you you just could not talk about OS (that is, make a proper discussion about Windows, Linux, Mac OSX and others).

      The funny thing is that there where 2 designers (the design "team") that used Mac OSX, and the programmers group (Windows advocates) where always bashing them...

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      Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'
  91. Luckly, I'm on a mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So i can get inspired enough to pretend that Windows makes me feel creative and I get to meet Bill Gates. Add New Device - BS.

  92. Passion = yes, gratefull = yes, Annoyed = HELL YES by B5_geek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A lot of us got our start with non-MS OS's, but we all owe Billy a thank-you for making PC's available to non-business's.

    If it wasn't for MS, IBM would prolly still be stong-arming the MainFrame Only sales pitch. Yes Apple was first, but it just didn't catch on the way that Windows did.

    I don't like his products (although Outlook2003 is damn spiffy), I don't like his embrace/engulf style, but I do love the fact that without him I wouldn't have the career that I do today. I owe him thanks.

    C64 -> WFWG 3.11 -> OS/2 v3 & v4 -> Linux

    I believe that MS-DOS 6.22 was the best OS that Microsoft has ever made.

    Without the millions of home PC's running Windows, we would still be using 486's running at 100MHz.

    Thank-you Bill. Now please just go away.

    --
    "The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." ~Plato (427-347 BC)
  93. Here's a nice, true story by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    "I'm writing to share a tragic little story.

    My Dad has a PC that my sister and I used to use for our homework assignments. One night, I was writing a paper on it, when all of a sudden it went berserk, the screen started flashing, and the whole paper just disappeared. All of it. And it was a good paper! I had to cram and rewrite it really quickly. Needless to say, my rushed paper wasn't nearly as good, and I blame that PC for the grade I got.

    I'm happy to report that my sister and I now share an Apple PowerBook. It's a lot nicer to work on than my dad's PC was, it hasn't let me down once, and my grades have all been really good.

    Thanks, Apple.

    Ellen Feiss"

    1. Re:Here's a nice, true story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's kind of a ... bummer.

  94. Ob. Simpsons... by DarthVain · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I didn't get rich by writing a lot of checks!"

    Bill if your gonna buy reviews, use cash like the the hardware and gaming industries. Stop being a cheapass!

  95. My passion by ribblem · · Score: 1

    Dear Microsoft, I am very passionate about using Windows. When I heard about this opportunity to meet big Bill I went to my favorite warez site and downloaded the latest version of Windows xp. I nearly shit my pants when I saw how large the download was. Only a very passionate user like me would be willing to sacrifice so much bandwidth to download your OS. Only a passionate user such as myself would be willing to type this message for a 3rd time since the first two times I got a blue screen while performing the complex operation of typing in a Slashdot message. Only the most passionate user would be willing to wait the 10 minutes it took windows to boot after those blue screens. Indeed there are few more passionate about windows than me. I truly look forward to meeting you Bill. It's been a dream of mine ever since... Crap I give up.

  96. Careful! by c0ldfusi0n · · Score: 1

    THE GRENADE IS LIVE!

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    A computer makes it possible to do, in half an hour, tasks which were completely unnecessary to do before.
  97. PAssion of pr0n! by east+coast · · Score: 1

    And all the various p2p and bittorrent software it takes to accumulate a good collection without spending cash for it.

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    Dedicated Cthulhu Cultist since 4523 BC.
  98. Can I bring that Teen Beat photographer, too by cruiserparts · · Score: 1

    I have a windows server box at home that does a remarkable job of acting like a big hard drive for my Dual G5. It stores my music, files, and even has a tape backup system. That's how windows helps me be creative. I want to meet Bill! Choose me! http://www.jonfritsch.com/

  99. Fertilizing the Astroturf by wowbagger · · Score: 1

    This is just fertilizing the Astroturf - think of it as fanservice for all the MicroTurfers who contribute so many clicks to /. trying to talk up Windows.

    You may consider the moderation history of this comment as a demonstration....

  100. Your chance to meet RMS, Linus, ESR, Maddog... by AnuradhaRatnaweera · · Score: 1

    Check out the bottom of my home page.

  101. Re:Passion - Gizoogle style by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny
    Yo chance ta meet bizzy gates

    you could meet tha chairman of microsoft, but youll have ta profess a passion fo` windows first . Fo'-fo' desert eagle to your motherfuckin' dome. microsoft is look'n fo` true stories `bout thugz using windows baller ta pursue a passion or hobby motha fucka. tha company plans ta use tizzy in a market'n blitz tied ta tha 20th anniversary of windows debut. ta entice essay submissions, microsoft is offer'n a poser of prizes, includ'n tha chance ta mizzle gates in seattle n appear in tha ad campaign. otha prizes include an overseas T-R-to-tha-izzip wit national geographic expedition, vip access ta a major movie premiere n a home makeova wittan hgtv designa.

    Essays mizzle be 300 words or less. Extra points is given ta essays tizzle demonstrate tha positive impact Windows has made on someones life like a tru playa'. Microsoft will select winna in fizzle categizzles ridin' in mah double R: culture n communizzle music, memories, home n lifestizzle n sports n games aww nah. To win, you must be at least 13 years old, live in tha United States, n enta by Siznept puttin tha smack down. 30. Microsoft plans ta select shot calla in Wanna Be Gangsta.
  102. I could win! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assuming passionate hatred burning like a thousand suns was an acceptable "passion"

  103. Article Settings by SleepyHappyDoc · · Score: 1

    How can I read this thread at +1 Not-Uselessly-Hating-Microsoft? Oh, right, this is Slashdot...

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  104. My deep abiding love for Windows by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 4, Funny
    I have a passion for the color blue. I see it and I swoon in ecstasy. How beautiful it is to my eyes! How evocative of the sky and the sea and everything life-giving!

    I find screens fascinating. Just by looking at a screen, you can learn anything in the realm of human knowledge. There is no limit to the things one can learn by applying yourself to screens.

    When writing, I find the word "of" to be a significant help in stringing together words into coherent sentences. I am so grateful to my elementary school teachers for introducing me to this wonderful word.

    I cannot get the idea of death out of my mind. It haunts me, it consumes me, it puzzles me. I think about it endlessly.

    Is there any wonder why I have a deep and abiding love for Windows?

    1. Re:My deep abiding love for Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you know, the whole BSOD thing is getting stupid, it's not funny anymore. Just like the latest Linux distros are pretty stable, so are latest versions of Windows. Yes, the DOS based versions of Windows weren't all that great stability wise but XP is, IMHO, rock-solid. I've been using XP since 2002 on various machines and have never experienced a crash. I've had one or two boot failures due to bad hardware, but never because of XP itself.

  105. Wow... by midifarm · · Score: 1
    Sith Lords resorting to advertising to find a new apprentice. Their use of the force must be diminishing.

    Peace

  106. How many.. by drspliff · · Score: 1

    assasination attempts will he have this time?

    And are there any interviews with 'potential' winners before they are chosen just so he doesn't get stuck with an Linux, Apple or Amiga junkie for an hour that only really awnts to piss him off rather than ask intelligent questions?

    Whatever anybody says.. get your tinfoil hats ready because I'm sure evertyhing will be staged as usual and turned into a marketing gimmick!

    Nuff said.. thats what MS usually do anyway.

  107. MOD VIDEO UP by dwayner79 · · Score: 1

    This is great (and it has sound)!!!

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  108. A thank you note by Winterblink · · Score: 1

    I suppose I could express my passion for Windows by stating the following.

    If it wasn't for Windows, I'd have never realized just how shitty the PC has become when it's paired with a Microsoft product. In that, I have realized just how insanely great my new iMac is, when I can come home and not have to worry about spending an hour keeping my operating system tidy. Where upgrades to the OS actually enhance the stability of the OS instead of providing more script kiddies to take over my computer for no reason.

    I suppose I should also thank Microsoft, for Windows is pretty great for gaming. It's about all my XP machine is useful for. Makes me wonder what will happen to it when the Playstation 3 comes out...

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    "I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
    -Hoban Washburn
  109. Hmmmm... by dcigary · · Score: 1

    Would using Windows to connect to my at-home RedHat boxes via PuTTY be considered a hobby?

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    ...my Karma ran over your Dogma...
  110. Photo-opportunity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr Bill Gates,
    I use Microsoft Windows 98 in a community centre's cybercaf, teaching people who are complete newbies how to use computers. You could say I am using MS Win98 to pursue what is both a passion - seeing peoples' eyes light up when they finally get the hang of something us longterm computer-users take for granted; and a hobby - getting my hands dirty with the innards of an Operating System that reminds me of the Bloodhound Gang's One Fierce Beer Coaster album, in particular the song "Why is everybody always picking on me?"

    It's unlikely that I'll win this competition of course - for one thing I don't live in the USA. Another reason - which you are not ever likely to use as a reason - is that if I ever did met you, I would probably spend my time grousing about MS Win98, and how much easier my life would be if you would open the source under a suitable Free/Libre Open Source license - so I could get my Community Centre's cybercaf running far, far smoother than it has ever run without the worry that Microsoft lawyers could be breathing down my back for any number of silly, pointless reasons.

    Wesley Parish

  111. Artificial Passion by cpqarray · · Score: 0

    It's funny that Microsoft has to try a phony contest to prove that people are passionate about Windows. I've not met many people in the Windows world who are that passionate about the Windows Operating System. I've met some who passionately hate it. Even people that only use Windows and wouldn't think of using a Mac or Linux aren't really all that passionate about the product. Having dealt with Mac loyalists before, I have never come across anyone with that sort of loyalty to Windows.

  112. I have a passion for blue screens and rebooting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh...and don't get me all hot and tingly thinking about worms, trojans, viruses.

    Excuse me, I need to beat off now.

  113. I use it.... by genneth · · Score: 0, Redundant

    For ReactOS and Wine development.

  114. The Passion of the Penguin by Performaman · · Score: 1

    Windows did help me pursue a passion: downloading Linux .iso files.

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    I have gas, but my car uses petrol.
    1. Re:The Passion of the Penguin by Locutus · · Score: 0

      good title for a spoof on that Mel Gibson film.

      LoB

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      "Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
  115. I have a passion for windows by Danathar · · Score: 1

    Let's face it...Windows keeps us employed. If computers were easy to use and did'nt crash that much we'd all be in MUCH less demand.

    My passion is for Microsoft to continue to design windows exactly the way it's been doing for the last 20 years. I've probably made over a million dollars in salary "fixing" windows problems and applications so my passion is pretty high to keep windows right on the same track it's on.

  116. Sounds similar to GWB's town hall events by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sounds similar to GWB's town hall events.
    You have a shot at talking to the president, but first you have to pledge support. :/

    --
    "Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
    1. Re:Sounds similar to GWB's town hall events by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A shot at the President? Where the hell do I sign-up?!

    2. Re:Sounds similar to GWB's town hall events by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, 5 years later, and all you can do is blame the clenis? As if it makes it any better? Truely, it is no surprise why things are so crappy in the USA.

    3. Re:Sounds similar to GWB's town hall events by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point is, left-wingers claiming that all dumb political tactics originated with Bush is getting tiresome. Bush may have done some slimey things, but show me a politician who got elected and I'll show you a corrupt politician.

  117. Fond memories... by Pollux · · Score: 1, Funny

    Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby

    So one day, I was using Windows, and after it locked up on me for the 8th time after trying to install a video driver, so began my passion for Linux...

  118. Ellen Fleiss for Windows by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 3, Funny
    My Dad has a PC that my sister and I used to use for our homework assignments. One night, I was writing a paper on it, when all of a sudden it went berserk, the screen started flashing, and the whole paper just disappeared. All of it. And it was a good paper! But man, that flashing screen was totally kewl, and made my drugs that much more fun. OK, so I totally got a bad grade for my paper, but it was fine cuz I met this totally great guy who also screwed up his paper.

    Oh yeah, Bill Gates is teh bomb.

  119. Duh by Ruphuz · · Score: 1

    Of course you really need a strong passion for Windows, if you are to meet Bill Gates and do not want to do something that would cost you a huge fine.

    Or some time in jail, perhaps.

    --
    My other post is a First.
  120. First Prize, a meeting with Bill Gates... by jpellino · · Score: 4, Funny

    Second Prize: Two meetings with Bill Gates.

    --
    "Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
    1. Re:First Prize, a meeting with Bill Gates... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Third place would, of course, we a reality show where you and Bill share bunk beds in a bachelor apartment.

    2. Re:First Prize, a meeting with Bill Gates... by geoff43230 · · Score: 1

      and, of course if your entry isn't found, you get 404 visits with Bill Gates.

      The jury would have also accepted meeting with George Lucas. The top 1,137 people shall recieve that honor ;)

  121. Pick Me!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dear Bill

    Thanks to Windows, I have a new hobby. Cleaning up borked machines for friends and family members. Without Windows, and your enlightened guidance, that would not be possible.

    Signed
    A near suicidal geek

  122. Bill's boobies??? by joib · · Score: 0

    Well, whatever floats your boat, I guess...

  123. Frankly... by mary_will_grow · · Score: 1

    ...I'd rather Touch Paul Belini.

    I love windows because in the Windows 98 years, when it was /painfully/ obvious what a better product Linux was, you're pockets were so deep you were able to market that crap to ultimate success. It showed me how important FULL DISCLOSURE (having INFORMED CONSUMERS) is to the success and stability of a free-market system, and how powerful you've become by breaking that rule and taking advantage of the market's technical ignorance.

    Kudos to you, you treasonous prick!

    --
    Why stick up for big business?
  124. Pr0n collecting by screwthemoderators · · Score: 1

    they should more carefully define "passion or hobby"

  125. One question... by Saeger · · Score: 1

    ...can I bring a pie? To... eat?

    --
    Power to the Peaceful
  126. i have a true passion for it by namekuseijin · · Score: 1

    I love to hate Windows

    --
    I don't feel like it...
  127. Confession by ruiner13 · · Score: 1

    Dear Bill, I am a virus/spyware engineer, and without your Windows(R)(TM) product, I would not be able to survive. The ease in which your product allows me to zombify other computers is simply amazing. A small investment in a cheap computer allows me access to many fast computers around the world. In fact, I'm writing this letter from a 4-way opteron setup right now, even though I'm on an old PII 400 that I found in the trash. It even had an iso of Longhorn on it! One word of advice though, don't use blue so much! Thanks! I wonder what the sig is for this account I hacked into...

    --

    today is spelling optional day.

  128. i LOVE windows! by calyptos · · Score: 1


    cue cheezy music here

    "I love Microsoft products! Unlike all of my friends, I have almost no problems. I rarely have to reinstall, everytime i get a virus they patch it before I lose too much of my information, which isn't really valuable anyways. Window's works so well for me, that I can leave it on for several hours without having to reboot. Don't listen to all of my friends who are having problems, their biased against windows and exagerate. I am the typical customer, and it almost always works at least halfway decently."

    --
    http://illhostit.com/ - Webhosting
  129. Astroturfing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...won't work.

  130. Windows and my hobby... by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 1

    .... skeet shooting.

    "PULL!"

    *BLAM*

    *satisfying explosion of Windows disc into a zillion teeny shards*

    --
    N4st0r, trixx0r h0bb1tz0rz! Th3y st0l3 0ur pr3c10uzz!
  131. Stole my thunder by GomezAdams · · Score: 1

    I had a mouse pad made from another photo in that sequence so I could run a mouse all over Bill's pie face all day long. Everyone in the IT shop division where I worked at the time was green with envy (we were an all UNIX group). I came to this article wanting to post that pic but you beat me to it.

    --
    Too lazy to create a sig...
  132. Google Adsense and Other Rantings on topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta love Google Adsense, i got 3 links to Steve job's websites and articles about him for this page =)

    But seriously, Is Mr. Gates so insecure about himself he has to surround himself with people who 'love' him? Its intersting, throughout history, people in positions of great power, sooner or later surround themselfs with pure yes-men who belive everything they say. Such as this and This example. Could this be a sign? Probably not, but it is an intersting move for this idea to even come out of redmond.. Only time will tell.

  133. Passion, Yes--But Not What They Have In Mind by Horrortaxi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, I'm passionate about Windows. After using it for 10 years I came to so passionately hate it that I stopped using it. And then I watched as all my friends and family got passionate about Windows and buy Macs.
    The Your Potential. Our Passion campaign has always bothered me (again, passionately) because Microsoft doesn't make any products that have anything to do with any of the things shown in their ads. They can't make you an astronaut, fashion designer, or bass player. Clearly they're just selling an image--but it's Apple's image that they're selling and they're not even doing a good job at it.
    If they really want to find people who love Windows they should just look for cars with Windows stickers on them. I see Apple and Tux stickers all over the place and with a million percent more market share there should be a million times more people so passionate about their OS that they celebrate it with a sticker on their car. No, I've never seen one either, but you figure they've got to exist somewhere.

    1. Re:Passion, Yes--But Not What They Have In Mind by demon · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the people with "MCSE" on their custom license plates are the people that Microsoft really needs to court.... hm, wait a minute...

      --

      Sam: "That was needlessly cryptic."
      Max: "I'd be peeing my pants if I wore any!"
    2. Re:Passion, Yes--But Not What They Have In Mind by JasonBee · · Score: 1

      I don't know about that

      I find it interesting that that a few consultant friends of mine have opted out of mentioning they are MCSEs when competing for some jobs. I can hold people back these days :P

    3. Re:Passion, Yes--But Not What They Have In Mind by JohnBaleshiski · · Score: 1

      > I see Apple and Tux stickers

      I see Tux and Redhat around here. Haven't seem an Apple sticker in years. I have also seen 1 Windows reference - a license plate in Connecticut ASP-NET

  134. 20 Years by nagora · · Score: 0
    20 years of shit

    20 years of copying other people badly

    20 years of lock in

    20 years of crimal actions

    20 years of lousy browsers

    20 years of filling Bill's bank account in the forlorn hope that the next release will be better

    15 years of being conned

    5 years of Linux

    5 years of getting my work done

    5 years of freedom

    Thanks, Bill. The door's the wooden thing in the wall.

    TWW

    --
    "Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
    1. Re:20 Years by mph_az · · Score: 1

      >20 years of lousy browsers
      MS is not to blame for the mistakes of Xerox.

      >20 years of filling Bill's bank account in the forlorn hope that the next release will be better
      You can't blame bill for your failure to find and obtain free copies. It's not like they're not easily available.

      >To confirm you're not a script,
      please type the text shown in this image: nvvrwtc

      nvvrwtc

  135. Meet Bill Gates!? by bobinabottle · · Score: 1

    And I thought all my Christmases had come at once when i got this poster stuck up on my wall!

    You mean I could actually meet him?!

    Seriously, what kind of a prize is "HEY YOU CAN SAY HELLO TO ME!"

  136. Redmond Nuke Reactor Controller project by xyguszorge · · Score: 1

    Zorge: Bill, I'm developing automated humanless nuclear reactor controller software on Windows using Visual Studio.NET
    Gates: Yikes!
    Zorge: Front End is IE and back end is.... hey why you run away....
    Gates: I'm moving to N-Korea where it is saferrr.......
    And that's how my meeting ended...

  137. Dude by kaoshin · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'll sell out my girlfriend. She plays solitaire.

  138. Losing points for formatting? by inherent+monkey+love · · Score: 0

    Do you think they'd grade my entry down if I formatted it using TeX?

  139. My hobby and passion... by Cyn · · Score: 3, Funny

    is masochism.

    Windows does it for me every time.

    Thank you Windows.

    --
    cyn, free software and *nix operating systems enthusiast.
  140. My letter to Bill... by kniLnamiJ-neB · · Score: 1

    Windows is a great thing....


    wait for it....


    For me to poop on!

    --
    Windows isn't the answer... it's the question. NO is the answer!
  141. Well at what my job is paying me right now by hey! · · Score: 1

    do you think it might qualify as a hobby?

    Just think -- a chance to meet the least charismatic business leader of the late 20th century. Just standing next to that much credit must be like walking under major electric distribution line.

    --
    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
  142. Gaming by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

    I'm passionate about gaming. Like, berserk soccer fan passionate.

    The only non-console platform I can really get my gaming fix for is Windows. I've got a box running FC3 that I use for stuff like being productive and for some games (Cedega isn't half bad, though I do have to muck about more than I'd like to get things working more often than not) but for gaming, my XP box is what I use 99.99% of the time, and it works really well for that.

    Do I *like* Windows? No. But it does let me do what I want to do - play games.

    Really, the platform is irrelevant - I'll use whatever the right tool is for a given job, and for gaming, Windows is currently the right tool.

    ANYWAY - if my story were to be used for this thing, I have no doubt that it would come out like this:

    "I'm passionate about games... [edit] Windows lets me to what I really want to do: play games."

    I doubt anyone would ever say "I love windows and want to have XP's love-child!" but people would say "I love th at Windows lets me do blah-de-blah."

    --
    Since I can't tell them apart, I treat all ACs as the same person.
  143. Passionate distrust by lee+n.+field · · Score: 1
    I fix people's busted Windows systems all day long. It gives me a somewhat jaundiced view.

    Shoddy hardware. "Unmountable boot volume" errors and broken registries. Malware and viruses.

    "These are a few of my faaaavorite things"

  144. Security related question... by Emetophobe · · Score: 1

    Are they going to search people for cream pies?

  145. I really like windows by Kippesoep · · Score: 1

    They enable me to see the world outside still exists without actually having to go there.

  146. Kids? by part_of_you · · Score: 0
    Essays must be 300 words or less. Extra points are given to essays that demonstrate the positive impact Windows has made on someone's life. Microsoft will select winners in five categories: culture and community, music, memories, home and lifestyle, and sports and games. To win, you must be at least 13 years old, live in the United States, and enter by Sept. 30. Microsoft plans to select winners in October.

    I wonder what they would want the view of a 13-year-old American? Hell, I know a-plenty-o adults that can't make Windows work. This sounds desperate for Microsoft.

  147. Greatest American by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anybody see the survey add on above this thread?

    "Bill Gates

    Is he the Greatest American? Tune in and cast your vote!"

    No, forget Lincoln and Washington, Franklin and Eddison, Gates is the greatest ever!!

  148. BSOD Blacklight by DanCentury · · Score: 1

    "Mr. Gates, I use the BSOD on my monitor to make my day-glo poster collection iridesce."

    Oh wait, Paul Allen is the one who likes Jimi Hendrix...

    1. Re:BSOD Blacklight by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      BSOD, all over my screen
      lately things don't seem so keen
      got no data, and I don't know why
      'scuse me, while my desktop dies

  149. Then this shouldn't come as a surprise(first paragraph):

    Inside the Beltway

    --
    It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
    Be yourself no matter what they say
  150. Oh, ye of little knowledge and lack of manners by acebone · · Score: 0

    Spelling Karl with a C instead of a K is forgivable, especially when the language is english.

    However, not recognizing that favourable is the British (thus original) spelling of the word is not exactly very bright

    --
    Check out my PHP Url Validator
  151. Bamboozlepalooza Redux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like Dear Leader's Social Security phaseout road show. Bill should maybe think again.

  152. Old windows? by imroy · · Score: 1

    Anyone still using Windows 3 (or even older) for a project? Microsoft would just looove that sort of publicity. Or even better to embarass MS, use a legacy Windows 3 app running under emulation on a modern Mac. Bonus points if the Mac is running Linux :)

  153. Switch, er, stay where you are. by Mithrandir86 · · Score: 0
    Windows isn't really something to get excited about: it is about as unique and defining as having two ears. It doesn't have legions of CS wierdos, or pretentious anti-conformists. It has gamers, and uh, people who occasionally work at home. It isn't horrible, despite the what the Slashdot dogma will say to the contrary. It works in the majority of cases for the majority of tasks. If you're reasonably informed you don't have trouble with viruses or spam.

    I can see the ad campaign now:

    "I use it to play games, because - um - there is no other choice."

    "I use it because I thought it was slightly cheaper than buying an Apple. Plus it can play games."

    "All my friends use it to play games and exchange pr0n."

    "It would take too much effort to switch."

  154. Meet Bill Gates? by Ranhert · · Score: 1

    I may be passionate about cars but that doesn't mean that I want to meet Henry Ford, well mostly because he is dead and probably smells a bit funky. I think Bill should be scared what kind of freak this twisted talent show produces as its winner. I know I certainly wouldn't want to meet him/her.

  155. Sounds like the Apple "Switcher" ads by Mr.+Cancelled · · Score: 1

    You know... The ones where someone we could care less about tells us how their Mac has changed their lives.

    Those commercials annoyed me more than anything (although as I recall, there was a cute girl in one...). I imagine that MS's will be rather comical though.

    "Windows is so stable, it allows me to get all of my work done quickly and easily..."

    Hahahahaa.... They should be amusing.

  156. The sound works for me too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using Firefox 1.0.4 with latest flash player plugin. The video plays just fine for me and is pretty funny to see a young Ballmer (was bald back then too) carrying on and ranting so much about Windows like is was some kind of kitchen appliance.

    1. Re:The sound works for me too. by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 1

      "and is pretty funny to see a young Ballmer (was bald back then too) carrying on and ranting so much about Windows like is was some kind of kitchen appliance."

      It's not?

  157. Vulnerability research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My hobby is vulnerability research. Windows definitely helps me in pursuing my passion :-)

    Cheers,

    Ult0r

  158. Tiling my bathroom? by caffiend666 · · Score: 1

    Does tiling my bathroom with old Windows OEM CDs count?

    --
    Here's to losing my Karma Bonus again....
  159. Virus Writing by LukePieStalker · · Score: 1

    Windows allowed me to pursue my passion for writing viruses because they make it so darned easy.

  160. it's not about passion for windows by VanillaCoke420 · · Score: 1

    Rather it's about using windows for things that you are passionate about, your interests, hobbies and such.

  161. my passion/hobby by nilbog · · Score: 0

    My hobby is free software ... I will say no more.

    --
    or else!
  162. Proving your Allegiance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other words, you could actualy see Bill Gates, provided that you like Microsoft Windows and are willing to prove your allegiance to Microsoft by signing a contract that strictly forbids you to splatter a cream pie in Bill's, to insult his ego, or to make him feel uncomfortable in any possible manner.

    This contract will also insure that you wish to sell your soul to the devil and dedicate the rest of your life to the cause of promoting the holy Microsoft Windows to the open source heretics.

    Please note that when you meet Bill Gates, if you do, it will be strictly forbidden to wear a tuxedo, or any black and white clothes that could possibly remind one of a penguin.

    Finally, a few restrictions will be imposed on the candidates. Candidates must:

    1. Be caucasian
    2. Be between 25 and 30 years old
    3. Be physically attractive (at our discretion)
    4. Be currently employed
    5. Earn a yearly salary that is between 50000$ and 60000$ per year
    6. Be married
    7. Intend to have children
    8. Respect American values (at our discretion)

    You might also get paid, if we like you.

  163. Dangerous... by Baldrson · · Score: 1

    I don't think it was a good idea to put this up at slashdot. Not all of us are open about how much we dislike Bill Gates. Gates thinks his call for unlimited h-1b visas is just a business move or political posture -- that the social environment for technologists who built the civilization that protects his property rights isn't leaving many of them with nothing to lose.

  164. I'm very passionate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... yes I'm very passionate about M$ products, the amount of my time and money I've wasted on them certainly makes me passionate... don't even get me started on IE... f**king waste of space pile of shit... it's a good job they give it away cause no-one would use it otherwise...

    The "Windows 98" scene from the South Park movie comes to mind... I'm that passionate...

    I'm nearly passionate enough to do some hard-time for strangling the dickhead...

  165. Why I like Windows by mini+me · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby.

    I used Windows to download Linux once. Does that count?

  166. Unfunny explaination follows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing particular about Nebraska. It's just a joke about a "Except in X" disclaimer that used to commonly appear in commercials. (Most states didn't like getting singled out in commercials, so they've changed their consumer protection laws.)

    1. Re:Unfunny explaination follows by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 1

      What's REALLY funny about this is that it was a joke to start with - ha, ha, Windows == Used Car. But uh... Look at it now. Coughing, sputtering, rusted through on the bottom, suffering from all the sawdust in the engine. Topheavy. Looks to ME like Steve became what he hated. Anyone see "The Graduate"?

  167. passion or hobby? by bitswapper · · Score: 1


    Hmm... surfing for porn - passion or hobby?

  168. testimonial from hell by ta+ma+de · · Score: 1

    This is like satan trying to get a testimonial from the damned about how great hell is. And, as a prerequisite, you need to be passionate about fire.

  169. Windows, throw it out one today! by Techmaniac · · Score: 1

    I use Windows instruction manual pages to wipe my a$$ everyday!

    How's that for passion and pain with M$ products?!!

    1. Re:Windows, throw it out one today! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that Microsoft prints almost none of their documentation on dead trees any longer, you must spend a lot of time washing your hands.

  170. Id much rather .... by kanid · · Score: 1

    ... meet his money! Maybe even make a TV show of it :-) 'Meet Bill Gates Money' ... now that sounds familiar....

  171. i love windows so much by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    i love windows so much because it is such a POS that i kicked it to the curb and switched to Linux, so if it was not for windows i would have never learned of Linux :^)

    --
    Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
  172. Passionate? by miffo.swe · · Score: 1

    I have seen many who prefer Windows over other OS because of interoperability concerns but i cant draw to mind a single person who really likes everything about Windows. Except a rare nutcase who thinks Clippy is da bomb its all because everyone else does it.

    --
    HTTP/1.1 400
  173. RE: by evil_marty · · Score: 1

    Bill I'm your biggest fan, I downloaded all of your company's products

  174. dear bill by b17bmbr · · Score: 1

    my passion is screwing up people's computers with viruses, spyware, and trojans. You're software has helped me immensely.

    thanks.

    --
    My problem? I was perfectly gruntled, until some numbnuts came by and dissed me.
  175. "Run Away ...... !" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NT

  176. Who do I get to meet if I HATE WINDOS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Windows is a front for DOS.
    I HATE IT!
    XP is worse, WTF is with you stupid people?
    So XP seems a little better to win95 people, and now DOS is hidden so you don't know it's still a front for DOS.
    Stupid f-ing cows all herd together because it's the "safe" thing to do, you don't have to try a little harder to CHANGE the way you do things so you stick with whatever everyone else is doing, mooo mooo.
    I really hate windos!!!!

    1. Re:Who do I get to meet if I HATE WINDOS? by catdevnull · · Score: 2, Funny

      You get to meet Steve Ballmer (aka Darth Monkeyboy) who will dance the forbidden dance of seduction!

      If that doesn't work, you get to meet Guido and Fat Tony.

      --

      I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
    2. Re:Who do I get to meet if I HATE WINDOS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering the extremety of your stupidity and blind, ignorant hatred, perhapse a meeting with Bin Laden might be in order?

  177. Proof of Passion..... by SammysIsland · · Score: 1

    Do I need to submit a Windows XP CD Key with my essay for verification??

  178. My Letter by p8nt · · Score: 1

    Dear Microsoft, I do enjoy windows. When the day is nice and warm i open them to let the wind come into my house. It makes me feel nice and cool. I love my windows.

  179. Another theme by Shotgun · · Score: 1

    Most of the post I've read so far seem to dwell on how Microsoft products suck, which I'll pretty much have to agree with. But I think we're missing out on another point.

    In the late '80s and early '90s there was a lot of hobbiest using Microsoft operating systems to do cool things. The system was open and hackable. You could access BIOS routines and DOS interrupts.

    Over time Microsoft built more and more cruft on top of the system, most of it buggy, and all of it constantly changing. The lower stuff kept getting harder to get to. A quick hack kept getting harder unless you were willing to worship at the Microsoft alter daily to learn the latest technique, language, interface, API, etc.

    My hobby is airplanes, not programming APIs du jour. If I won't to do something on the computer for my hobby, it must be quick and easy or I'll go back to welding or something, and just run the numbers I need with pencil and paper (vs writing a program that I would distribute to other builders). Linux lets me do that, mostly because all distributions have a C compiler included.

    Microsoft is looking for hobbiest that are using their system, because they know that it is the hobbiest who got them where they are and that those hobbiest have moved to Linux.

    --
    Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
    Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
  180. I used Windows to download Linux in '94 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh wait, no I didn't. I used SunOS. I guess I don't get to meet Bill. All of my questions about why MS keeps designing new security holes into it's products will go forever unanswered.

  181. When you meet him by jetsfandb · · Score: 1

    remember the tooth.

    --
    It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, The hands acqui
  182. 20 years - funny coincidence by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    People are making much of Revenge of the Sith having political commentary, but I find it far more thought provoking that Windows has now lasted about as long as the Empire bwteen EP III and IV.

    Is Longhorn Bill Gates' Death Star?

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  183. Windows helps me pursue my passion and/or hobby by usererror3000 · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby.

    I use my Windows box to pursue my hobby:

    Running Linux

    cause every time i boot into windows...
    @#$%!!!!!

  184. remember what "Investment" means by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

    You did legally obtain the licenses for XP, Office, and VS didn't you? Not that i disagree, I use the MS suite because it 'just works' but the trade off is that it costs a fair amount, probably more than the hardware it runs on. I would consider myself a 'fan' of anything that can do the particular job the best. For a home desktop I don't have to think about, you bet I'm a fan of Windows.

  185. MS is trying by kbahey · · Score: 1

    Since the two rivals (Linux and Mac) seem to have fanatical followers who really have passion for the product, Microsoft is trying to do the same.

    If anyone recalls teh late 80s and early 90s, before Microsoft became so dominant, there were indeed fanatical followers for it as well. These are the people who saw the PC as a liberator from the IBM monopoly in mainframes, the people who ran BBSs on DOS systems, edit boot sectors, ...etc.

    Now MS is seen only as a corporate product of a greedy monopoly that is expensive for the consumer, insecure, buggy, bloated, ...etc.

    So, they are trying to counter that image by having some fans come forward ...

  186. Second Prize by rssrss · · Score: 0

    What is second prize? Two weeks in Philadelphia?

    --
    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
  187. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  188. Booby Prize: by scharkalvin · · Score: 1

    A lunch with Steve Balmer

  189. Hello by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello, I first started using DOS in 1992 at the age of 12. I had originally used it before then at my best friend's house. I was facinated by "gwbasic" and began programming with it the very day I got my new computer.

    I went on to learn more about BASIC and eventually went on to write my first "Door module" for a BBS at age 14. I also became obsessed with online culture, and the radical spirit of using DOS by the renegade Microsoft Corporation, that was working to fight the establishment of corporate UNIX.

    At age 16, I got a Compaq computer with Windows 95 and I wrote my first real useful program. It was an automated program, created in ASIC, that consulted a credit card database, freely available on multiple BBS's at the time, and proceded dial into a local BBS and create free accounts with Internet access. For the next 3 years, I would never pay for dialup Internet access.

    I graduated at age 17 and realized the true power of this "Internet". Gaming. Massive amounts of gaming. There were a few programmers in 1997 that were hard at work using different distributions of a powerful operating system called "Linux" that was designed from the ground up to be totally free and modifiable.

    But it wasn't DOS. And Windows had already won my heart. So I began to delve even deeper. I started to learn Visual Basic Scripting, looked into creating VxDs to do whatever I wanted with my computer. Then I started to realize I could do whatever I wanted with other individuals computers. In 1998, I released instructions on how to design code for Windows that would allow virus writers to bypass CRC checks altogether and just take control of a workstation.

    In 2000, I wrote modifications to macro and VBS viruses that allowed for massive deployment in a short time span. I theorized, along with others, about mail engines being developed inside the viruses themselves, and the possibilities of using IRC as a propagation engine.

    Around 2002, I was approached with the idea of creating a network of compromised "subseven workstations" to use for extortion of online gambling enterprises. I created such a network with a custom-made IRC bot that used get requests to bog down a website. The original requestor disappeared, and ultimately, due to the ease in which the bots could be avoided, the attempt failed.

    I connected with two Candian teenagers revisiting the prospect. One of which was later arrested, caught mainly due to his involvement in the "scene". The other has went on to create XP rootkits and his whereabouts are currently unknown to me, and most likely those dedicated on pursuing him.

    I have anonymously disclosed 3 IE vulnerabilities since 2001; some privately to those willing to pay for exploits. One of which was used by a spyware distributor in early 2004.

    I myself have scaled back considerably on my exploit, trojan, and virus development, and it is because of this that I feel I am worthy of an interview with Bill Gates. By simply stopping my activities, I have done a great service to Microsoft and the Windows community.

  190. Who has to pretend? by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 1

    I love Windows. I use it for three main things.

    1) My 1st person shooter games (great for honing mental skills)
    2) Maintaining my inventory of long range hunting and sniping weapons
    3) Maintaining my hunts database. Which is almost complete. Now I just need to take out a filthy rich CEO of a software company that thrives on evil practices.

    Sounds like a good match to me!

    8^) [smily face added for Homeland Security Squad for Watching out for Filthy Rich Evil Company CEOs benefit]

  191. Sounds like a Bush rally! :D by Samurai+Cat! · · Score: 1

    Only the faithful are allowed in, and possible dissenters are given the boot...

    http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/05/05/int05019 .html

    --

    "People" using "unnecessary" quotes should be "shot".
    1. Re:Sounds like a Bush rally! :D by enzo_romeo · · Score: 1

      If it works for Bush, it will work for Bill. Nothing like having fauning syncofants kissing your toes in front of the media. They should have someone dressed up as Clippy next to Bill on his throne while the faithfull genuflect before him. "It looks like you're trying to grovel. Can I help you with that?"

  192. Sounds Familiar by mgbaron · · Score: 0

    Do I smell a rip off of apple advertising?

  193. My father played cards with Bill by Urusai · · Score: 1

    ...and won! It was at a bridge tournament.

    Now if only Bill had wagered all his Microsoft stock...

  194. True stories by Max_Wells_SH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Windows Zelots push the fact that they put in a lot of time and effort into it, and they just can't turn back now.

    I think you're right:

    Me at Work: I just installed Messenger Plus on 6.2 instead of installing 7.0, now I can turn off the ads.
    Actual MS Zealot at Work: That's full of spyware, why not make a request to MS for that feature in the next version of MSN and wait for that?
    Me: ...

    At least zealots will try to defend their position, or kill you when you argue with them. I was provided no such relief.

    --
    I read Slashdot for the articles.
  195. DOA by beef3k · · Score: 1

    Pardon me but this seems dead in it's infancy (unless Steve Balmer is not exempt from the "competition").

    Passionate about Windows? There's an oxymoron if I ever saw one...

  196. My hobby is 'Running Linux under Windows' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Do you think this will count http://home.btconnect.com/chrisandcarolyn/freeduc- games-1.6.png ?

    Torrent here http://home.btconnect.com/chrisandcarolyn/torrents /freeduc-games-1.6-qemu-0.6.1-2.iso.torrent

    Pile more torrents here http://home.btconnect.com/chrisandcarolyn/torrents /in the same vein.

    Runs without Windows, if you boot the CD, of course.

    Have fun!

  197. snacks? by Ogman · · Score: 1

    Snacks will include pie and, hopefully, pretzels.

    --
    But Officer, I DID read the f**king article!
  198. Factory tour! by cyberlackey · · Score: 1

    I hear they distribute golden tickets to win a factory tour. Perhaps when the individual who gets to meet Bill Gates is of pure enough heart, and brings his grandfather, he will tour the magical MS factory and not be tempted by the mysterious things he is told not to touch. Against Bill's wishes, all of the other children will be tempted, leaving the winner. Thusly this winner will get to take over the company. One proper noun: Umpa Lumpas

    --
    All children left unattended will be sold as slaves.
  199. Ask him what ever happened to the vouchers by ScrappyLaptop · · Score: 1
    Remember those? Something to do with a class action settlement in California. The web site says something like,

    "Vouchers will be mailed to class members shortly after any appeals have been resolved. Several appeals have been filed. We cannot estimate how long it will take to resolve the appeals, but it will probably not happen during your lifetime. However, Microsoft would like to thank everyone for sending in all of their CD-Keys as they can now be used in the fight against piracy."

  200. Definitely by bmajik · · Score: 1

    I've got boxed copies of everything I mentioned. My circumstances are probably not typical though :)

    [check user info if you're curious]

    --
    My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
  201. ...I love Windows... by wolf31o2 · · Score: 1

    If it were not for Windows, I never would have been pushed to using Open Source software. I never would have become a Linux developer for Gentoo. I never would have landed a career working on Linux machines and making more than double what my Windows Administrator peers make.

    I applaud Bill Gates and Windows. If it were not for them, so many more people might have been forced to learn more about their computers, and jobs such as mine would be much more competitive and harder to come by today.

    Windows truly has done a wonderful job of bringing computing to the masses of technophobic individuals who want things to be dumbed down for them so much that their 4-year-old nephew can run circles around them. It really is a strong platform, capable of providing everything you need all at your fingertips.

    Hey! You aren't registered with Windows Messenger! Click here! Click here!

    Hey! You aren't using Internet Explorer! Shame on you! Click here to fix that!

    Long live Windows!

    Long live Bill Gates!

  202. Passion. Let's by unixMafiA · · Score: 1
    "...but you'll have to profess a passion for Windows first."

    Reading this, I wondered: does occasionally emulating m$ windows (in FreeBSD and Linux using wine, or in Darwin using Virtual PC) * count as professing a passion??

    * = so to show my most often desperate clients the unstability and easy breeching of their hopelessly cracked, trojaned and wormed Windows PCs.

    Naturally, I do appreciate Windows: thanks to Billy's screw-ups, I earn money!!
    Often asked to fix what MS have ruined, my company offers remedy through UNIX/Unix-like Free Software alternatives that need no Service Packs or defective, force-sold Plug-ins.

    BUT so likely I'd miss out on the lifetime opportunity of Meeting MSFT's Chairman... Appreciation isn't quite the same as passion.
    And I wondered, what is passion, then? I decided to look it up in wikipedia.org.
    The online encyclopedia's definition of passion is unequivocal and crystal-clear. According to the first paragraph of
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passion
    "The Passion is the technical term for the suffering and Agony of Jesus that led directly to the Crucifixion, a central Christian event. The "Passion narratives" tell this story in the Gospels. The etymological origins of this meaning of the word lie in the Latin passio that first appears in the 2nd century, precisely to describe the travails and suffering of Jesus in this present context."

    In other words, to profess a passion for Windows is to suffer and Agonize and be crucified (sic) . I deduct from this that the road to martyrdom is marred by cloudy skies with Flying Windows hovering over one's head, and daily listening to The Microsoft Sound is equivalent to listening to the thunder over Mount Golgotha and the wailing of one's sad followers, as heard by Jesus of Nazareth when he hung at the cross, 4 nails tearing at his flesh and blood gushing out of his ribs where a lance had struck him. What an ordeal!

    Well, our man J.C. already made his Sacrifice, some W2k years ago - the Gospels say he did it for All of us.
    So please forgive me, Bill, for not wanting to repeat that experience and preferring to save myself the agony of Passion. And forgive me, Bill, for rendering cult to Other Icons, such as the pagan Solar symbols of Sun and that foul Prince, FreeBSD's merry Daemon...
    --

    * Signal 15... "Ceterum censeo Microsoftem esse delendam." Cheers cq. BRgds: DrS aka UNIXmafia@ribeco.net
  203. Passion for windows by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 0

    Brainwashed sheep, meet the cult leader. You'll feel happy and he'll get even more popular.

  204. Linux apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey I love writting Linux apps in Windows. Do you think he would accept that?

  205. ok, ok, I got one by l3v1 · · Score: 1

    and it sounds like "I used Windows to learn the hard way why Linux is better".

    --
    I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
  206. BDSM by simonecaldana · · Score: 1

    using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby

    does masochism count?

  207. Gates of Heaven by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    Like god's reward to Jesus, after demonstrating his passion? Your chance to be immortalized in Windows!

    --

    --
    make install -not war

  208. I got an idea. by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    Why not give him a T-shirt with the FIREFOX logo (just keep it hidden until he unfolds it), in "gratitude for his efforts to make this a better world"?

    Now *THAT* would be ingenious.

    1. Re:I got an idea. by ThJ · · Score: 0

      Hehe. I bet he'd handle that just like he handled that blue screen in that Windows 95 demo video. Laughing it off, or saying something like "Ah, hehe, I've tried Firefox. Our product is better, but thanks for the shirt."

  209. Maybe by bmajik · · Score: 1

    that's an interesting way to look at it but im not buying it.

    Firstly, i started using linux at home with TAMU and kernel .98. I spent a lot of time back then. I quickly "graduated" to Solaris 2.4 on a sparc ipx, and then shortly thereafter, solaris 2.5.1 on an SS10, with both machines running 2.6 eventually. (2.6 being the last release for sun4c, iirc). I also picked up an Indigo^2 and did a whole bunch of work with irix.

    This is all at home mind you. At work i was doing admin and development work on irix 5.3, 6.2, 6.3, 6.4, and 6.5. A little NT 4.0. A little Solaris "7" (2.7). I switched jobs and did a bunch of work on linux, freebsd, more solaris, more irix.

    I lived and breathed Solaris, IRIX, and Linux for many years. I stopped using Windows at 3.1 and ran unix only at home until Windows 2000 release candidates started coming out, at which point i had a W2k server machine as "the windows box".

    My mac experience _does_ go back somewhat.. - my wife got her G3 i 1998 and was running OS8 and OS9. Frankly those both ran "ok" for what they were - (garbage). I was the one that instaslled OS 10 on it (i forgot to mention that at home i ALSO had NextStep 2.x, 3.3, and 4.2 black hardware that i had also invested in heavily, time wise).

    Part of the Aironet problem is bad cisco software, but part of it is apple just plain doing a poor job on older hardware support with OS X.

    I would say that "At home", i've invested the least amount of time in windows, because it works to straightforwardly for the things i ask it to do.

    Now, since i work with windows every day at work in a very low-level way, it's hard to suggest that i dont "succeed by osmosis" at home... but my point remains.. i've got a lot of research and learning time in all of the platforms i've listed above. The continual incremental investment in windows seems to be the least of all of them i keep around.

    --
    My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
    1. Re:Maybe by ravenspear · · Score: 1

      i've got a lot of research and learning time in all of the platforms i've listed above. The continual incremental investment in windows seems to be the least of all of them i keep around.

      I can't really speak to Linux because I don't use it that much as a desktop (just as a server where maintenance is virtually nonexistant), but regarding OS X that may be because as a new OS it has been undergoing a large amount of architectural changes and refinements recently (epescially 10.3 and 10.4). The basic stuff on Windows has not changed very much in recent years since the transition to the NT codebase.

  210. Passion? What's in a word... by unixMafiA · · Score: 1
    "...but you'll have to profess a passion for Windows first."

    Reading this, I wondered: does occasionally emulating m$ windows (in FreeBSD and Linux using wine, or in Darwin using Virtual PC) * count as professing a passion??

    * = so to show my most often desperate clients the unstability and easy breeching of their hopelessly cracked, trojaned and wormed Windows PCs.

    Naturally, I do appreciate Windows: thanks to Billy's screw-ups, I earn money!!
    Often asked to fix what MS have ruined, my company offers remedy through UNIX/Unix-like Free Software alternatives that need no Service Packs or defective, force-sold Plug-ins.

    BUT so likely I'd miss out on the lifetime opportunity of Meeting MSFT's Chairman... Appreciation isn't quite the same as passion.
    And I wondered, what is passion, then? I decided to look it up in wikipedia.org.
    The online encyclopedia's definition of passion is unequivocal and crystal-clear. According to the first paragraph of
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passion
    "The Passion is the technical term for the suffering and Agony of Jesus that led directly to the Crucifixion, a central Christian event. The "Passion narratives" tell this story in the Gospels. The etymological origins of this meaning of the word lie in the Latin passio that first appears in the 2nd century, precisely to describe the travails and suffering of Jesus in this present context."

    In other words, to profess a passion for Windows is to suffer and Agonize and be crucified (sic) . I deduct from this that the road to martyrdom is marred by cloudy skies with Flying Windows hovering over one's head, and daily listening to The Microsoft Sound is equivalent to listening to the thunder over Mount Golgotha and the wailing of one's sad followers, as heard by Jesus of Nazareth when he hung at the cross, 4 nails tearing at his flesh and blood gushing out of his ribs where a lance had struck him. What an ordeal!

    Well, our man J.C. already made his Sacrifice, some W2k years ago - the Gospels say he did it for All of us.
    So please forgive me, Bill, for not wanting to repeat that experience and preferring to save myself the agony of Passion. And forgive me, Bill, for rendering cult to Other Icons, such as the pagan Solar symbols of Sun, the Antarctic animal god Tux and that foul Prince, FreeBSD's merry Daemon...
    --

    * Signal 15... "Ceterum censeo Microsoftem esse delendam." Cheers cq. BRgds: DrS aka UNIXmafia@ribeco.net
    1. Re:Passion? What's in a word... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Passion" is a Spaniard's #1 pickup line.

      Not a sentence with the word "passion" in it. Just -- "passion". That's one way to confirm if you've got Spanish blood in you -- go up to a chick and say, "passion!". If she's instantly wet, you're a Spaniard.

  211. windows keeps me fed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Windows allows me to make a living. 1 part insecure OS, 2 parts dumbass end user. Step 3- PROFIT!.

  212. Windows Improved My Job! by w0lver · · Score: 1

    I can now read ./ without fear. If someone peeks at my screen, I just tell them my Windows machine is rebooting due to a security update / spyware fix... It a great excuse and can work multiple times a day, every day.

  213. Steve Jobs? by digithead · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Where's my chance to meet Steve? I'd be happy to babble on endlessly about how iMovie, iPhoto and the iPod have changed my life, hobbies, etc. or what a thing of beauty my G4 Cube is.

    I actually would enjoy talking with Bill, but I can't generate the same amount of enthusiasm when talking about Office or the TabletPC I use at work.

    Sigh.

    --
    Once you lick the lollipop of mediocrity, you'll suck forever!
  214. um... by calyptos · · Score: 1

    Who is Bill Gates?

    Do I get troll points now?

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    http://illhostit.com/ - Webhosting
  215. Dear Bill... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    Thanks to you and your products, I have a job in a technical support position where the calls never end.

    Seriously. Thanks.

    -RT

    --
    Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
  216. My hobby... by bitslinger_42 · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised no one's done this yet, but anyway...

    My hobby is computer security. Windows has been amazing for helping me understand all the ways that an attacker can break in and gain access to my bank records. I tried using FreeBSD as a target before, but my research was dismal, as I had to do so much to it in order for the attacker to have a path in. With Windows, I was compromized in under a minte. Thank you Bill Gates!

  217. I have a passion for Windows... by Snart+Barfunz · · Score: 1

    ...especially those built into Angelina Jolie's house.

    --
    --- Yx3 = Delilah ---
    1. Re:I have a passion for Windows... by Hymer · · Score: 0

      Who is Angelina Jolie's ?? ...and why should I know her ?

  218. Passionate about Windows, eh? by Skudd · · Score: 1

    I really hate Windows with a passion. Does that count?

  219. Gates is the "prize"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why O-why should a meeting with Gates be considered a prize? Does this have something to do with the American worship of the rich?

  220. haha meet bill? by timlyg · · Score: 0

    Gee...I'm not that good of an actor...

    Let's somebody else do it

  221. A coworker asked me about that by Dog135 · · Score: 1

    Several years ago I had a coworker that said something along the lines of:

    What is it with you Mac people? You always seem to LOVE your Macs!

    My answer:
    Gee, I wonder why.

    --
    "That's so plausible, I can't believe it!" - Leela
  222. BSODs will always be funny by mangu · · Score: 1
    the latest Linux distros are pretty stable


    Yes, the latest versions of Linux are very stable, but so were the earlier versions. The stability of the kernel has been one of the strong points of Linux from the very start.


    XP is, IMHO, rock-solid


    Either your opinion is *extremely* humble or you have a different opinion of what constitutes "rock solid". Of course, the way they eliminated the BSOD in XP was to make it reboot automatically at each crash. Maybe that's the reason why you don't see it crash so often.


    I've had one or two boot failures due to bad hardware, but never because of XP itself.


    Aha, now we aren't so perfect anymore! How do you know it's faulty hardware? Have you tested the same hardware on a Linux machine? I have at least two equipment that crash XP every ten minutes or so: a Genius scanner with SCSI interface and a JVC camcorder with USB and Firewire interfaces. Both work flawlessly on the same dual-boot computer under Linux. So, once hardware failures are eliminated, what's the excuse for the XP crashes? "Broken device drivers", maybe?


    Microsoft operating systems have always been very unstable, only the lame excuses change. Perhaps XP crashes less often than w98, but that's the same as saying a Jaguar catches fire less often than a Pinto.

    1. Re:BSODs will always be funny by ssj_195 · · Score: 1
      I'm no fan of Microsoft, but I've only seen Windows XP crash (including spontaneous reboots) a few times. All but one were due to an overheating graphics card (and yes, this also crashed Linux, and much more quickly, I might add); the other was a housemates PC, when I was copying some stuff from my Linux machine onto his via Samba. He swore that it was due to Linux being shit, even after pointing out that it was his PC that hard-locked, not mine. Maybe we should enter him for this contest? ;)

      But anyway, for all its faults, there are three criticisms of Windows/ Microsoft that I don't believe hold water:

      1) Stability;

      2) Development tools. Say what you will, I've never seen an F/OSS C++ IDE that's even close to the usability of Visual C++ (even VC++, from '98) - excellent intellisense and Edit & Continue make coding a dream; and

      3) Speed/ bloat - the best F/OSS DE's (GNOME and KDE) are every bit as processor and RAM hungry in my experience - possibly even more so. Of course, you could use a lighter WM/DE like XFCE (which I really admire), but then you are trading up convenience and functionality.

      On the plus side, both GNOME and KDE are cognizant of this problem and have the philosophy that people should not have to upgrade their machines and are working hard on the problem, but even so, it's hypocritical to accuse Windows of bloat.

      Every other criticism is pretty much fair game, though :)

    2. Re:BSODs will always be funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I said rock-solid, I meant it. I have never had Windows XP reboot or BSOD (I have turned off the auto-reboot at BSOD anyway) on any of my systems. I have had boot / install failures due to bad RAM, which has been verified by several memory testing apps. I run a small PC sales and repair business, so I see faulty components quite a lot. Windows XP *is* rock-solid, if you have shitty cheap components with crap drivers then that's your fault. My EPOS system which runs XP has been up over a month at the moment without reboot, and that was only due to a power failure. Yes, I conceed that previous DOS based versions of Windows (95,98 & ME) weren't great, but XP is a completely different beast.

    3. Re:BSODs will always be funny by mangu · · Score: 1
      I've never seen an F/OSS C++ IDE that's even close to the usability of Visual C++ (even VC++, from '98)


      I used to say that until I met kdevelop. Perhaps VC++ is more complete in some ways, but the support for languages other than C is enough for me to prefer kdevelop anytime. In my job I support a 30000 line PHP system, and kdevelop is the only IDE I know of that lets me handle PHP classes in the same style that VC++ handles C++ classes.


      Another point is that Qt is much easier than MFC for developers. I have programmed for MS-windows since 3.0 in 1991. I have a shelf full of reference books for MS-windows, from Petzold to Prosise, but I've never seen documentation as good as the Qt Assistant. Besides, the API itself is better. For instance, I have a small picture manipulation program, which I use to play with graphics manipulation algorithms. To open a graphics file in Qt:

      bool labfotoDoc::openDoc()
      {
      QString name = QFileDialog::getOpenFileName(
      QString::null, "image (*.jpg)", 0, "file open", "labFoto -- File Open"
      );

      img = new QImage(name);
      if (!img)
      return false;

      modified = false;
      filename = name;
      return true;
      }

      Compare this to the MFC version:

      void CLabFotoApp::OnFileOpen()
      {
      static int index = 1;

      CFileDialog FileDlg(TRUE, NULL, NULL, OFN_HIDEREADONLY, filtro);
      FileDlg.m_ofn.nFilterIndex = (DWORD)index;

      if (FileDlg.DoModal() == IDOK) {
      CString PathName = FileDlg.GetPathName();
      OpenDocumentFile(PathName);
      index = (int)FileDlg.m_ofn.nFilterIndex;
      }
      }

      Which one is clearer? Wihtout checking the documentation, I have no idea about what does "FileDlg.m_ofn.nFilterIndex" do.


      But that's not all. In the Qt version, openDoc returns a QImage structure that contains the image pixels in the file. Qt has its own encoders/decoders for the most important image standards. In the MFC version I had to write my own functions for reading and writing image files, or rather, I had to write wrappers for libjpeg, libgif, libpng, etc. Qt already has those wrappers, all you need to do is link the libraries.


      People have told me "hey, dumbass, MFC is history, you should do things in C#". Maybe I'll do that when someone proves to me that C# is better than Qt, rather than proving that it's better than MFC.

    4. Re:BSODs will always be funny by ssj_195 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I've heard some very good things about kdevelop - I'll definitely give it a try at some point. Especially as I'm itching to hack on KDE :)

  223. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... if sucking up can just get me within 10 paces of him.....

  224. Switch? Of course! It worked so well LAST TIME! by dcavanaugh · · Score: 1

    Perhaps they will pick Valerie Mallinson. She has to be the most passionate Windows user I ever saw! Maybe we can help her win the contest; that would be the ultimate joke.

  225. "The Passion Of The Windows User" by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. The Windows User is condemned to edit the Registry just to get a program to work.
    2. The software lock-in is laid upon him.
    3. His first Blue Screen Of Death.
    4. He meets his confounded smart-ass know-it-all nephew, who uses Linux.
    5. Irving his neighbour is called in to try to fix the damned computer.
    6. Windows User's hard disk is wiped by a virus written in VB Script.
    7. His second Blue Screen Of Death.
    8. He meets the women of P2P pr0n but cannot see them because Windows Media Player will not enable him to play files with DRM content.
    9. His third Blue Screen Of Death.
    10. He is stripped of his money upgrading to the latest version of Microsoft Office.
    11. He is mortified by Clippy.
    12. He distributes a Word doc without realizing that "hidden" text can be made visible; he loses his job.
    13. He visits a site with MS Internet Explorer and hackers in Vladivostok change his local settings.
    14. He is laid to rest waiting for Longhorn.

    --
    Rich And Stupid is not so bad as Working For Rich And Stupid.
  226. Thank you by yyttrrre · · Score: 1

    Thank you Bill Gates,
    You have allowed me the opportunity to make thousands of dollars by removing spyware from computers running your insecure operating system. I am truly in debit to you.

  227. Wanna meet Bill Gates? by Inode+Jones · · Score: 1

    It's easy.

    First, learn to play bridge. Well.

    Second, enter an open event at one of the three North American Bridge Championships.

    Chances are good that you'll sit down and play a few boards against the Great One Himself.

  228. schools... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the IT people in mcgill's engineering are huge microsoft fans. especially electrical engineering.

    same goes with university of waterloo - in electrical engineering.

    same goes with my highschool.

    what a shame.

  229. you will not dissent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "profess a passion for Windows" - that makes it sound like a Republican town meeting.

  230. They're copying Apple again by rhizome · · Score: 1

    I could understand apple doing this, but I think Microsoft might have difficulty finding people who really love windows.

    This is their genius marketing twist, though. They're looking for people, in the face of Apple's dominance in marketing and Linux' dominance in the server room, who *haven't* switched. It's the UnSwitcher campaign, designed to find people, who for whatever reason have stuck with Microsoft. The contest could be otherwise worded, "What reasons could people possibly have for continuing to use Windows?"

    This tells me that they can't think of those reasons themselves. And it shows, have you seen the latest Microsoft commercials? They're a jumble of every-color-of-the-rainbow with 8billion different symbols for who knows what, flying around and surrounding people as they go about their daily lives. It says to me, "We're a fog of confusion and distraction that people are unable to escape, yet these people still have smiles on their faces." They don't know why the people in their own commercials are smiling, so they're going out into the field/mall to find them. Go Microsoft!

    --
    When I was a kid, we only had one Darth.
  231. Re:Passion - Gizoogle style by lloydtesterman · · Score: 1

    that is the funniest thing I have seen all day!! Thank you!

  232. Tablet PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, I love my tablet PC.

    While it does have a few flaws (digitizer.exe sometimes displays an error when it shuts down), no OS that I know of has bothered with this format.

    And while you may laugh that tablet PCs havn't taken off, it's increasing slowly in the medical profession, and I predict it will soon blast off as the HEPA electronic requirements come closer.

    The tablet PC is great for centralizing chart notes and billing, creating a paperless office environement and records ease of use.

    If MS really wanted to monopolize this market, a great idea is for them to get into programming an EMR (electronic medical records) program.

  233. How to get flamed - the easy way. by 9-bits.tk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Post something like the parent.

  234. Dear Bill by gwayne · · Score: 1

    I really love Winders. My passion is sending spam email for prescriptions, fake watches, mortgages, and pron sites.

    Winders "security" makes it so easy to add new zombies to my smtp proxy network so I can send spam virtually untraceable. Since most users are too ignorant or oblivious to care, I can compromise unpatched Winders hosts within minutes.

    Thanks a lot also for making it so easy to spam Hotmail accounts with that shotgun regex account-matching system. I can just make up random email addresses and Hotmail delivers it to the closes matching accounts.

    Thanks for all the good work Microsoft. Thanks for continuing to expand your product and service line in all areas rather than focusing on fixing bugs and critical security issues in current products. Without you, I'd be out of business.

    I make so much money I'd like to share some with you. I'm going to send $500K, but I only have a cashiers check for $1M. Could you go ahead and send me a check for the difference now.

  235. Darn, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if is wasn't for a little prefrontal brain damage I had a while back, I would be more than ready to explain how much I love Windows.

  236. I've heard that before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like Bush's townhall meetings.

  237. We need to create a counter-campaign against MS by Offwhite98 · · Score: 1

    I have been forced into using MS technologies over and over after escaping happily to MacOS or FreeBSD and I wish more people realized there are great alternatives. We should create a coordinated campaign as a unified Switch Campaign focused on highlighting alternatives to MS and Windows.

    It seems to me that MacOS X, OpenOffice, Firefox and several other viable alternatives provide plenty of examples of what you can use as an alternative to MS technologies. We simply need to create a blogging blitz to counter Microsoft's efforts to win support for their next generation of vendor lock-in.

    If you have been watching at all lately, you will notice that MS has slowly opened up their formats a little only to start promoting MS Office integration so you are still going to be locked into MS licensing and fees. We have to get organized and inform the masses.

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    Brennan Stehling - http://brennan.offwhite.net/blog/
    1. Re:We need to create a counter-campaign against MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but the masses can barely understand "put the cd in the drive, close the drive, and when the program runs just keep clicking next until it stops." much less run or install any of the programs you mentioned.

  238. Dear Mr. Gates by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

    Windows XP has opened up new horizons for me. The NTFS file system allows me to store more tahn 40 GB of PoRn on each disk partition. Thank you! Wanna shake my hand?

  239. Hobby of a lifetime. by Lucractius · · Score: 1

    Well wether this counts as a hobby or an feat worthy of sisiphus himself is up to yea who read it :p

    I quite fondly kept my familys windows 95 A ! compaq pressario 2200 with 133 Mhz cyrix fanless cpu bolted in under the most non standard heatsink ive ever seen alive and kicking for 6 years, without a Reinstall, with out antivirus, without firewall, without security or other MS updates bar the Winsock 2 one :), without spyware removal tools (till the last 4 months when they became part of my life support toolkit ;) ) with the IE 5.5 shell parasite attached. And to top it off My dear sweet mother was always fond of just reaching round and turning the big switch at the back off while it was running without a thought to shut down or even close the programs. Her answer to any thing was to flip it off and try again pretty much.

    But i persevered and kept it alive without a reinstall for 6 years. I personaly challenge anyone to beat that (and factor in the abusive work enviroment). I watched it meltdown catasrophicaly till DOS failed to boot after nearly 6 and a half years of use. And then as the very machine itself was dying i proceded to coax its 4x CD ROM drive to make one last boot and was able to get the recovery cd to install again. And it still works at the moment (though sits unused thank god)

    RIP
    Monolith
    First personal experience with windows.
    1997 - 2003
    ~To great feats of personal distinction.
    ~Anything is a good thing in the hands of the right person.
    ~May the binary gods take mercy on the personality Monolith developed over those 6 years through bit rot and hard shutdowns.

    I miss ya old girl! :p

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  240. i found by drfrog · · Score: 1

    a gold wrapper in my windows XP CD case!!!

    wee i get to meet

    bill gates and the microsoft factory :)

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    back in the day we didnt have no old school
  241. Your chance to meet Bill Gates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your chance to meet Bill Gates.

    A chance ?
  242. So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in Seattle, where the likelihood of getting T-boned by Chairman Bill when he runs a red light is far too great anyway.

  243. MOD PARENT UP! by nigham · · Score: 1

    This is WAY COOL!

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  244. Porn by Das+Auge · · Score: 0

    I pretty..uhhhh...passionate about my porn.

  245. the ideal spokesperson? by Marvin_OScribbley · · Score: 1

    coming soon to a theatre near you... Jesus uses Windows in... The Passion of the Christ II!

    Rome, IT - With the apocalypse just around the corner, where does the Savior of All Mankind turn to meet His IT needs? With the Lamb's Book of Life getting larger every year due to the conservative groundswell manifest in Bush's re-election this year, the Christ decided He needed to upgrade to a platform that was state of the art, utilizing the latest technologies.

    (Register to read the full story...)

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    I'm not a journalist, but I play one on slashdot
  246. Delegation of duties by Marcus+Erroneous · · Score: 1

    How about if I just send a pie?

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    You must be the change you wish to see in the world - Ghandi
  247. WIndows The Imperial Operating System by gcatullus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Windows is easier because it is the market leader and almost every bit of hardware or commercial software that you find is designed for it. Chances are that you also "grew up" using it and the knowledge that you gained was bit by bit and mostly painless. The windows environment comparable to the American system of weights and measures -- everyone (in the US) uses it, everyone has some knowledge about it, and everything is designed for it. I know by looking at a bolt if it is 5/16 of an inch, if you asked me how many milimeters, I'd have to think. Even if metric "makes more sense" it won't "just work" for me unless I retrain myself. Linux has made things easier and with some of the Live CDs things mostly just work, but there is usually some retraining and tinkering for me at least.

  248. I Looooooooove Windows by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 1

    This is my favorite for Windows.

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    Eternity: will that be smoking, or non-smoking? I Corinthians 6:9-10
  249. Kind of like a religion isn't it? by gamer4Life · · Score: 1

    If you profess your passion for Jeebus (Windows), you will get to meet God (Gates).

  250. Can I set up a stand next door? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to sell tomatoes and cream pies.

    Instant profit!

  251. Are we allowed to bring weapons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If so then sign me up!

  252. I use Windows for Fishing by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    I take a computer with Windows on it and use it to anchor my boat while fishing.

    Does that count?

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  253. A letter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Mr. Gates. My hobby is skeet shooting, but a number of years ago I began to feel sorry for the poor innocent skeets. They had done nothing to deserve being flung in the air and being shot to pieces. For a while I was worried that I would have to give up my beloved hobby, but Windows solved my problems.

    Pull!

  254. I love Windows too... by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 1

    But I really have to stop my masochistic ways.

    --
    "It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it."
  255. MOD PARENT UP by Xisiqomelir · · Score: 0, Troll

    Lots of Lusers with modpoints today it seems...

  256. Dear Mr. Gates, by joebolte · · Score: 1

    Dear Mr. Gates,
    My experience with Windows inspired to learn about the x86 architecture and create my own competing OS. Perhaps you have heard of it? I look forward to meeting you.

    Sincerely,
    Linus Torvalds

  257. Does pirated software count? by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is looking for true stories about people using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby.

    I don't know anyone using a PC for non-business purposes whose software is all legitimately purchased. No one I know can afford to fork out hundreds of dollars for programs like SoundForge or PhotoShop just to use them for personal interests. Even gamers can't afford to shell out $60 a pop (and monthly subscription fees) for all the games they like to play.

    If Microsoft is looking for people who use Windows computers to pursue a "passion or a hobby", then chances are they're not going to get many responses, because most people that meet that description are using pirated software to do it and are smart enough to not write into Microsoft and turn themselves in.

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  258. A passion indeed by Henk+Postma · · Score: 1
    using Windows computers to pursue a passion or hobby

    I used windows to persue my passion ... downloading Ubuntu Linux :)

  259. Now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Now they're doing an Apple style campaign

    Ummm, wasn't there some bs over a year ago using stock photos? As I recall, they had the equivelent of a master's thesis supposedly written by a 12 year old?

    To the winders' fanboys: Yeah, I'm sure the specifics above are wrong. The 'tactics', though, did.

  260. it's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a good chance to kill him.

    Can I meet Balmer too?

  261. Re:Passion = yes, gratefull = yes, Annoyed = HELL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MS-DOS 5.0 is the best system - it has all the cool features and runs Star Control II with less fiddling with EMB/HMA

  262. I've got a bloody passion 'bout Windows... by Hymer · · Score: 0

    ...how to exterminate that piece of junk from any PC I see it on...

  263. What a great ad for for Linux.... by mormop · · Score: 1

    Like everything, use Windows you have to pay for your zealots, use Linux and get thousands of them for FREE!!!!!

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    Hmmmmmm..... Deep fried and look like Squirrel.
  264. I'm *extremely* passionate about Microsoft Windows by Eric+Smith · · Score: 1
    Which is why I run Linux.

    Somehow I don't think that will qualify me for this promotion, though.

    One morning last year I woke up from a dream in which I met Bill Gates at a conference, and we had a nice chat, though I don't remember the details. Although I do think it would be interesting to meet him in real life, I'm not sure what I'd want to say or ask.

    Aside perhaps from deliberately misquoting the song "Steven Spielberg, Give Me Some of Your Money" by Moe Moskowitz and the Punsters.

  265. What I would do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always said if I met Bill gates I would kick him in the balls!

  266. I *love* windows by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Finding workarounds for its terrible design shortcomings has kept me employed for most of my career.

  267. Yes! You too... by smagruder · · Score: 1

    can have a most excellent chance to get on the shitlists of *millions* people all over the world! Be hated just like Bill! Be properly scorned by open-source activists! Go down in shame! Huzzah!

    --
    Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
  268. How passionate I am about Windows XP by halber_mensch · · Score: 1

    My Windows XP box
    Is the most powerful terminal
    I have ever used
    To ssh into my FreeBSD box
    So that I can avoid Windows XP
    When I have work to do
    And I am too lazy to get up
    And sit in front of it.

    --
    perl -e "eval pack(q{H*},join q{},qw{70 72696e74207061636b28717b482a7d2c717b343 637323635363534323533343430617d293b})"
  269. Whew, only M$ lovers by Private.Tucker · · Score: 1

    "You could meet the chairman of Microsoft, but you'll have to profess a passion for Windows first." I knew there was a catch. Is there truly a "Passion for Windows" Profession?

  270. I will hold my breath until my face turns blue... by mcwop · · Score: 1

    that is passion.

    --

    "I don't think it's selfish, to eat defenseless shellfish." -NOFX

  271. well... by veraction · · Score: 0

    I don't see why everyone is always so hostile towards MS. I mean, a project as big as Windows XP is bound to have some bugs. I've used Windows for a while, but now have been using Linux for the past few months

  272. MS reality TV show, starring Bill Gates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What MS needs is a tv show, with Bill Gates.
    If Trump can do it, Gates should be able to do it, too.

    They just have to figure out two things for Bill: the haircut and the equalent of "You are fired".

    It could be a fun show, on how Windows (or any other MS product for that matter) affects the everyday life of real people. From powerpointing CEOs to msning teenagers. It could be a high rated eyeopener, how we don't even realize the depth MS is embedded into our life.

    The show should have guest stars, of course: in an episode Paris Hilton could have an appearence, with the mission of hecking into Bill's system.
    The American Idol could sing in the background and they could hire Lisa from Simpsons to make socially loaded, geek comments, as the voice of the plebs in ancient Greek dramas.

    P.S.: This is not an OpenSource idea, this is Just An Other Random Idea(tm) by Random Nick, should MS or Bill Gates launch the above mentioned - or similar - show they are expeted to pay big bucks to Random.Nick for the use of the idea. In real money - not with free MS software, please.

    Should Bill have finished the uniform login-system as promised long time ago, I would not have forgotten my password, and now I could be Random.Nick, instead of this ugly Anonymous Coward. Danm you, Bill. Hm... How about this, as the slogan for the show?

  273. skip skip by H9000 · · Score: 1

    I will skip this opportunitie.

  274. 3 words by sysbot · · Score: 1

    Love beta software

  275. Hey, everyone needs a hobby! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    > Microsoft is looking for true stories about
    > people using Windows computers to pursue a
    > passion or hobby.

    I'd make a logical, sound comment about the most common use of Windows, far and away, for this purpose, but I'm still digging out of my -1 hole the Slashdot gods put me in for similar, fully relevant comments.

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  276. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft never met a bug it didn't fix, after charging you for the update. Sort of like finding out the hooker who gave you the clap moonlights as an M.D. at the free clinic, only in reverse.

  277. In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Empire is soliciting essays about people using the Force (Dark Side only) to pursue a passion or hobby, prizes include meeting the Emperor (formerly known as senator Palpatine). Extra points will be given to cases where bolt lightning is used or a loved one is betrayed "for its own good". Other prizes include a visit to a slave mine in Tattooine, a laser sable designed by Darth Vader, and a complete make over substituting any missing parts in your body.

  278. Obvious reasons to use windows with passion by imr · · Score: 1

    1/ gaming
    2/ virii writing
    3/ finding flaws to bash it on slashdot
    4/ ???
    5/ profit

  279. if i won.... by KillShill · · Score: 1

    i would ask bill to take off the drm on the xbox360 and convince sony and nintendo to do the same.

    imagine, the possibility of us having access to our own hardware which we bought with our hard earned money.

    then i'd wake up.

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    Science : Proprietary , Knowledge : Open Source
  280. Big deal. by pimpsoftcom · · Score: 1

    I actually met him once when I was in visiting my then girlfriends parents in Seattle, and I found him to be very snobby in my humble opinion. He had the nerve to run into me and when he almost lost control of the cup in his hands he was very rude, and said some rather insulting things. Of course the fact that I was wearing a linux based T-shirt at the time probably didn't help his opinion of me either, as also he sneered and called me a Linux Zealot. Thats right, I like linux so that I can have a multi-billionaire too full of himself to give somebody right of way trip on his own feet and almost spill what had to be scalding hot coffee on me. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact I'm not restricted to one man or companies whim, can see the source whenever I want and edit them as I please, the fact that it costs me nothing so I can actually afford to install it on hundreds of computers and still retain my morality if I so wish, or the fact that I pay my bills supporting it as part of my day job. I personally hope the person who does get to meet him is not so blinded by the glitter he will throw in there eyes that they do not see the type of person I saw him to be. Then again I'm sure even Ray Charles could see that truth, so I have hope the person who 'wins' just whips it out and pimp slaps the man.

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    - d
  281. softwars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    trying to put together a script for a animated film and looking for a standard format (svg???) so that the film can be produced by an open group using an open licence to develop the production

    so here's the first draft of some script ideas for the opening scene

    SOFTWARS
    A TALE OF OUR TIME
    FOR THE INNER GEEK IN EVERYBODY :-)
    ------BEGIN SCRIPT--------

    enough...
    proclaimed the emperor
    there will be no software freedom for them

    the jar is a gift from the sun, he will fight first against us, then will greatly assist us

    go forth! make the hardware merchants aware of the greater price that awaits those that do not bow to our wishes

    ignore or disrupt councils and courts
    remind rulers and states of the great dangers that will confront them
    if they forsake our bounties for the elusive benefits of software freedom

    embrace, extend and disrupt
    the efforts of contemporaries
    and always
    be ...

    the emperor paused, looking around the table
    glancing first to his right as if to reassure himself

    SINTEL THE CLONER
    master of designs that favoured the empire
    the base upon which the foundations of the empire were built
    these annoying free software creators had developed a surprisingly capable threat
    impudently using the master of clones creations
    but the soon to be completed plan to restrict hardware to trusted imperial systems
    together with the convoluted eulas that bound the populace
    and the hidden iceberg of patents
    would eventually crush all resistance

    MICHA THE HELL-FIEND
    aah, the mighty demon that fuelled the empire from below
    providing the population with a never ceasing flow of hardware bearing the imperial software
    not one of his subjects was equal to this hell-fiend, or more useful
    looking at him the emperor saw faint tinges of the software freedom anomaly flaring up in the folds between the hardware demons mighty muscles
    the demon dared to provide a few dicerning citizens with the loathsome collaborative software
    once this softwar was over the hell-fiend would humbly toe the line, his massive logistic neck bowed with sintels help

    SIR HUGH PACKED THE THRALL
    a glance at the once mighty soft and hard-ware wizard brought a supercilious sneer to the emperors lips
    to think that this wizard had once threatened the budding empire with his well engineered core systems
    hughs cloak could not hide the tell-tale traces of anti-imperial flames that reflected feeble dreams of escape
    but alas sir hugh was rendered decrepid with the sheer power of the emperors implacable resolve

    MARIAA THE BANSHEE
    this litigous being of unknown gender laughed hideously as she boldly met the emperors eyes
    the spirits of the enslaved masters of illusion chained to its throne howled in misery
    so did the vast sea of wretches addicted to the exquisite fantasies woven by these fettered adepts
    the banshees grip on the populace was dangerous as the wretches could not live without illusion to mask the misery of existence

    this one will have to be ensared and tamed,
    thought the emperor to himself
    or destroyed once the last free entities were dispensed with
    but at least this one did not show any signs of the enemy as yet
    he mused as his eye fell on the newcomer to his court

    SOL THE SUN-KING
    having recently submitted openly to the emperors will, this arrogant blustering janus was a sorry sight
    with one eye tightly closed and and the other widely open
    the rest of his person minutely mirrored his dual nature
    one hand clutched powerful core systems that were in appearance as tightly closed as the imperial systems
    the other brazenly wielded a shockingly open threat to the emperors flagship
    imps redolent with the aroma of coffee guarded their master from the active ex-chimps surrounding the emperor
    who somberely regarded his latest ally with feelings as mixed as the face of the janus

    IBEEM THE GIANT

  282. how about we have one for the person who... by 3seas · · Score: 1

    hates windows the most.

    The prize: pie throwing....

  283. I it to download porn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love my Windows XP Professional workstation!

    My hobby and passion is porn, and I use my Microsoft Windows to download pictures of nude women doing hardcore sex scenes. I spend hours doing it.

  284. samba or wine by lahvak · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know of some people who use windows to pursue their hobby. They reverse-engineer it and write samba or wine.

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    AccountKiller
  285. My True Story by zbyte64 · · Score: 1

    step 1:
    say: Windows saved my life!!
    step 2:
    ~insert rediculous story here~ step 3:
    denounce microsoft infront of cameras
    i wonder if it will ever happen...

  286. I would LOVE to meet Bill Gates.... by skingers6894 · · Score: 1

    .... I bet he has some cool stories about Steve Jobs!

  287. Who knows? If we're lucky... by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    ...we may get a new candidate for the top "stoned chick".

    If one of their candidates did denounce MS on live broadcast, the server would be totally hosed within ten minutes of anyone posting a video clip of it.

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  288. So I was just editing... by StarsAreAlsoFire · · Score: 1

    ...lusrmgr.msc earlier today....

  289. Well... by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    ...no. You don't need Microsoft for that.

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    Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
  290. ha ha ha ha...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sorry.....HAHAHAHAHA! Ok, now what were we talking
    about?

  291. My goodness! by leonbrooks · · Score: 2, Informative
    check user info if you're curious
    That doesn't half make your tagline ironic for the current story, does it?
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    Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
  292. "Blame"... interesting term by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    In this case it means that they have somewhere to point the finger, but not someone to solve the problem. It would seem to me that having some way of solving the problem (or better yet, of never having the problem in the first place) would be considerably more valuable to them.

    Unless, of course, they want to think of all of those poor starving people in India... who probably get to see two fifths of three eighths of sweet Fanny Adams out of that $100/hr.

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  293. More Marketing by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    It will probably serve them well because they are going to try and make it look like Windows can do everything. The more I look at this whole Microsoft Windows vs. Everything Else mentality, the more it becomes clear to me that there are really two broad groups at war here:

    The first group of people are the technological wannabees. They are the people who can assemble a PC fairly well from components they bought at the store. The system might be a little glitchy but it works well enough for them to consider it a success. They throw on Windows XP and every driver and utilitiy known to man. Burn a CD? Easy. Just pop it in the drive and Nero Burning ROM or Roxio will automatically determine the kind of disc and start doign it's thing. Check the weather? Easy. Just download and install Weatherbug or any of a large variety of weather apps that sit in the task tray. Don't forget to install Ad-Aware and Spybot Search and Destroy as well! (While forgetting to upgrade to SP2) This kind of person considers themselves pretty knowledgable about Windows. They have "passion". They also have very little ability to do much else with their machines in the way of writing their own apps, or even scripting something more complex than a BAT file for copying files and folders around. This person is NOT "into computers" no matter how much they think they are. They also might try a few alternative OSes, and save for the live CD versions, they conclude that the OSes are too hard to deal with and therefore "suck". They might actually get something like SuSE or Redhat installed, but when they can't find the same abundance of utilities that pop up tons of splash screens at boot/login, they assume the OS sucks because no one writes software for it. They are usually really into pirated software or elese they spend a ton of money on every app they can get their hands on. This is their "passion". There are LOTS of this type of person out there.

    The other group is the group of people who actually know computers extremely well. They know that *IF* you must run Windows, you're better off doing it plain vanilla with only the addition of the latest SP and all critical updates. They can also build a PC, but they know to research the combination of hardware they are going to get for the application that box will serve (video editing, music production, web serving, etc...). If required, their hardware set up will usually work well with ANY OS because they are going to be smart enough to choose hardware that works with alternate OSes. If the system is going to be running Windows, they will know how to tweak the OS for the purpose the system was built for. They also tend to know how to write their own apps and are highly frustrated by Microsoft's omission of a built-in compiler since all OSes should allow the users to write apps. They also know CMD and VBscript inside and out so that many tasks can be automated and dumbed down for the other users in the house. They also know how to use alternate OSes to fix the problems that Windows may run into. One way you can tell this kind of person apart from the one above, is that he's going to have a lot more hardware because he knows that there is no point in spending much money on software. Especially if you run an alternet OS. He'll have more RAM, HD space and a faster CPU because he didn't need to spend thousands of dollars on all the extra software. And his systems will always be virus/trojan/malware free. He won't get his system infected with trojans or viruses from pirated apps.

    Microsoft prefers the first kind of user to the second one. The second one is rarely a fan of Windows or has the kind of "passion" that Microsoft is looking for. This is simply more of the major wave of dumb that is sweeping over the entire world. Take the fools and morons that abound and make them feel like they are the cream of the crop and visionary. Make those who are more intelligent/knowledgeable/experienced out to be the villians or "stuck in the past". Expect to see a lot

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    -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
  294. MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for being a cunt with only 3 posts to his name.

    What a jerk!