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Al Gore Invents Internet TV
catdevnull writes "The SF Gate is reporting that former VP Al Gore is launching "Current" a new CableTV-Internet hybrid. From the article: "Current, the name of Gore's enterprise, hopes to do that by airing a shuffle of short news features, some produced by the network but many submitted online by viewers. Current will also air segments every half hour showing TV viewers what Google searchers are tapping into at that moment -- everything from current events to tourist destinations. It's all directed at a generation that thinks nothing of plugging into more than one media outlet at once." "
...he'll invent SlashDot!
Paleotechnologist and connoisseur of pretty shiny things.
You mean like MSNBC? The channel both Microsoft and NBC want to dump?
"Al Gore's endorsement should be enough for anybody"
And this man was almost president.
If the stuff on ifilm.com is any measure of what will come out of this, then it won't be worth watching.
I think this will be an exercise in the value of entertainment corporations screening out most of the crap.
The original inventor of the algorithm?
Current will also air segments every half hour showing TV viewers what Google searchers are tapping into at that moment
That's going to be kindof X-rated, don't you think? Experience has shown that at any given point, a good portion of people using the internet are searching for porn, or at least naked pictures of celebrities.
Still funny. All these years later. No it is, it's never gotten old. Not even when the NSF credited him with a major role in makeing the internet into something broadly useful.
First an irate and bogus article referring to "Communist San Fransisco", and now jokes from 5 years ago!
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...articles about robots recently?
I don't get it.
Are you sure those aren't just "rumors on the Internets" ?
So they're going to start monitoring Google and can see what people search for? I really hope I just read that wrong.
Yes there is something form me to see here. Its tv and internet. Al Gore saying he invented the internet was a prelode to the tvinternet. I just dont see how this is going to be practicle. Somebody will figure out how to spam and do popups. The question is can you browse the internet, download a iso of your favorite distro of course and use viop all at one?
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THAT'S funny.
For all those that say Gore didn't claim to invent the net I include the following.
On CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):
During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
Trent Lott invented the paper clip.
I swear to god, when I heard about this (several days ago, btw, on my local nightly news program- Slashdot is a little slow on the uptake), the newscaster said something along the lines of "Al Gore isn't stopping with the internet, now he's doing his own TV channel!"
I always assumed that everyone got that the whole "I invented the internet" stuff was a bunch of crap, but now I'm starting to have my doubts- I think a lot of people DO think he "invented the internet".
She wrapped it up with "however, Gore will not appear on the channel himself." Thank god- we've have an epidemic of people falling asleep from Instant Boredom.
Please help metamoderate.
"Part of our objective is to connect those two experiences" :X
I don't think he'd want to see the outcome of TV and Internet merged under one solution. We already got Paris Hilton all over the net and on tv
Then I read the following line:
Those hoping for a liberal network to balance the conservatism of Fox won't find it here.
Well now I'm almost sold!
Emperor of the Moon? It's taking too damn long.
A TV show or short segment showing what people are looking for on Google? Oh god, I can just imagine it now:
193.53.2.10 is looking for "l33t w@r3z" with 57 hits
Oh but check this out! 216.23.129.44 is looking for "vast right wing conspiracy" with 683,000 hits!
101.23.64.99 is looking for "CENSORED" with 2,947,345 hits. What a perv!
Etc.
It will be priceless when a bot comes out to flood google with searches about the current political climate and it gets picked up. Hopefully this like most other retarded plans falls by the wayside as real ideas come forward.
Uh, is Al sure he wants to broadcast how often people are searching for pr0n, and the different "kind" of pr0n they're looking for?
What would Tipper say??
He's making "liberal TV" But he says he's not.
Nah, I'd guess it to be more like Robot Wars 24/7.
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(O.o) This is Bunny. (> <)
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm
Nope. The internet makes you stupid.
If nothing else, this venture is useful because it makes someone who's not the NSA an important customer for Google's aggregated surf data. Showing it live on TV opens it up to the public.
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People seem to be assuming that Gore wants to make a liberal counterpart to Fox News, but it appears that he's trying to do something quite different, making something that is far more interactive than traditional television. I have no idea if it will work (and I suspect that it won't), but critics might want to actually pay attention to what he's trying to do before criticizing something that has nothing to do with what he is trying.
so, we can watch TV of Google lookups of TV of Google Lookups of ...
yay.
Yeah keep mocking him. You'll be sorry when he decides to take it back.
"You are hearing me talk."
No he didn't. That wasn't his choice of words at all. He said he "took the initiative in creating the internet."
Still a poor choice of words, but you are spouting the same falsehoods as you see on TV/Slashdot.
Snopes Article
And "took the initiative in creating" and "inventing" are most certainly differnt. Nikola Tesla discovered/invented AC power distribution, but George Westinghouse took the initiative in creating the power grid, by providing the money for it. Al Gore's role was more like Westinghouse's, in that he worked to secure funding for the internet and similar projects in the 80s when no one else really cared about them.
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
"[Taking] initiative in creating" is not the same as "inventing," but thanks for playing/trolling. Not that I like Al Gore, but hey, play fair.
"...a generation that thinks nothing of plugging into more than one media outlet at once."
Maybe in my college days, but never again!
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He actually said he "took the initiative in creating the internet"
Poor choice of words? Maybe, but Wired misquoted (libel!) him and put the word "Invented" in his mouth.
Either way, Al Gore did coin the phrase "Information Superhighway" and Eisenhower should get credit for the Internet because it's his vision of the Interstate system that was the fundamental idea that went into creating the Internet (and that was in like the 1950's!)
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April Fools is over for more than 5 days now!
"He's making "liberal TV" But he says he's not."
Of course he will not call it liberal TV. If he even hints that it may possibly have a liberal slant, every wingnut in the country will start screaming of how they are being persecuted by the media. If it were possible for him to come in under the wingnut radar, he might be able to avoid some of the crap that Air America radio went through.
More power to him. I'll pay for the channel.
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act!" -- George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair)
GoreTv, hehe
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_L eno/headlines/H_2871/H_2871_13.jpg
what people are searching google for every 30 minutes?!
Reality is nothing but a collective hunch.
Announcing Car Bot: Thank you all for coming. It is my pleasure to
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inventor of the environment, and first emperor of the moon, Al Gore.
Al Gore: I have ridden the mighty moon worm!
[Applause]
Fry: Good for him.
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Probably not, but it's pretty boring to hear them over and over again.. guess I'm getting too old.
On second thought, maybe it's because he's only "mis-spoken" a few times that there are so few jokes to be made.
Anyway, Internet-TV has been here, already.. for years. Big Whoop. Will it be better from the crappy CNN and horrible FOX and pitiful MSNBC or the neutered ABC & CBS networks?
Maybe, but I kinda doubt it. It'll probably be full of advertisements, infomercials and other useless pap within the year.. if not from the start.
One can only wish for investigative, Fact-based-journalism that doesn't mindlessly repeat whatever important-person-x says or yak-yak about celebrity-scandal #1,043,323.
How many ads will feature viagra though?
...a failed cable TV experiment with interactive boxes? Even venerable game show host Bill Cullen did a one-off game show in Columbus called How Do You Like Your Eggs?
Gleepy the Hen. More intelligent than the average hen.
AA failed miserably because instead of being original they were shallow and vicious copy cats. Most of their junk was a mean spirited parody of some other sucessful show.
Gore says he isn't going to slant the shows yet the list of whos who there is very very slanted.
I just hope he doesn't get as dumb as Rock The Vote has become or worse delve into the nasty politics of MoveOn or similar from the right.
If he truly wants to show that he is sane; yes I doubt it sometimes; lets hope that he doesn't slant it too much and not become just another mouthpiece for the DNC.
If your going to compete with the likes of Rush, Hannity, and the right you need to deliver facts and keep the slant off. Do not copy unless your doing so out of sincere flattery for someone else's job well done. Lastly do not EVER go off on a tirade that borders on a political stump speech.
Oh, please don't blame anyone else if you fail.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
he's getting it funded by Budhist munks.
That's what most Google searches are for. And all the ad breaks will be infomercials for Viagra etc.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Obviously you need to go back and read from the constitution what the electoral college is and quit relying on what your liberal teachers tell you. The electoral college was a great idea our founding fathers came up with. This gives an equal share of the outcome of an election to small states or large states based on population. Without the electoral system, there would be NO NEED for any politician to ever visit "flyover" country. They would spend all their time in: California, Florida, New York, Illinois, Texas and a couple of other states, where the bulk of the population resides. The other states in the union would not receive any representation, since they have "too few" people. The electoral college prevents that from happening.
You give people too much credit by assuming they weren't stupid before they got on the internet.
I say put it in the ticker (news crawl):
Linux ext3 tweaks - Opus Dei - free porn movies - cosign auto loan - mario - squirting mpeg videos - lighsaber - free amateur husband creampie wife sample videos
(Based on eal dogpile searches)
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And "took the initiative in creating" and "inventing" are most certainly differnt.
The effect is the same though, those words make it seem like he is taking credit for something he doesn't deserve.
The NSF credited him with improving the Internet. This does not make his entire false claim of having created in the first place it any more true.
Seriously? 200 channels, all coming down your cable connection, why not have 9000 channels all coming down your broadband connection?
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Why not post the link to the Current TV homepage?
It's pretty, and it the layout works with Firefox (unlike some sites)
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But will he ban Gore-y movies?
You must be new if you think facts are a consideration to the fox-heads around here...
As a /. reader/commenter, you are supposed to post without RTFA. So what's the point in posting links.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Wtf is up with this non-sequitor.
Update For for the dupe. Not going well. Appreciate all the hate mail. Really encourages improvement.
For all those that say Gore didn't claim to invent the net I include the following.
Ok, so you indicate that you're about to show that he claimed to have *invented* the internet. But then you quote Gore as having said:
I took the initiative in creating the Internet
I'd just like to make two points here:
1) If you question Gore's role in CREATING the internet, why don't you read what the guys who INVENTED the internet have to say about the matter.
2) "Invent" is not the same as "create". Last week I created a meatloaf in my kitchen. I did not *invent* meatloaf.
You deserve to be put on the political troll list.
From AP article:
"The $100,000 television camera has become a $3,000 high- definition camera, and the $250,000 editing console has become a $1,000 Apple computer program," Gore said.
Given Gore's membership on the Apple board these days, what kind of influence does Steve Jobs have on the set?
See my previous post regarding Aussie TV Networks Fight BitTorrent.
This whole TV on the internet thing has been done already. It's called using BitTorrent and RSS feeds. And is available to everyone (not just the US)! In order for any "official" TV on the internet to be any good, I feel it has to be at least up to par (in terms of quality) with what I can download already -- that means, HDTV-quality releases with the possibility of AC3 sound.
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...if I should watch Gore's Internet-TV hybrid, or this new slew of enthralling reality shows!
Dumbass: AA came back and now has 53 stations across the country.
Having viewers make shows for you? I guess that's kind of like how /. works. I was hoping, however, that it would be like blogging meets TV--you know, bloggers at events and getting air time in front of a cable audience and not just the blogosphere.
Then again, it's already like that but with only text. And the blogging goes straight through to the viewer. So the more I think about this, the more it sounds like he's creating a middle-man company, which is to say, a completely useless and potentially brain-damaging company. Fuck that.
By the way, the first sentence of the article is "Al Gore never said he invented the Internet." So at least there's some good text in there.
AA failed miserably because instead of being original they were shallow and vicious copy cats. Most of their junk was a mean spirited parody of some other sucessful show.
Air America now has 51 stations, and reaches millions of viewers. It is also, according to Time magazine, "financially stable."
If your going to compete with the likes of Rush, Hannity, and the right you need to deliver facts and keep the slant off.
I almost spit up my drink over that line. Do you really believe that Rush and Hannity don't have a "slant"? Sounds like you drank the coolade to me.
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Going from the internet to cable TV is going the wrong direction. So you get a fixed video RSS stream? Big fucking deal, that's already old (in korea only old people watch cable?). If he wanted to invent something then he'd have gone the other way and put cable content onto the internet such that you could make your own custom or community feeds and watch TV via your own personalized channels.
Michael
I for one wouldn't count out the possibility of this channel actually becoming popular. I mean, it seems to be feeding off the viral video phenomenon that the Internet has created. If it can really manage to get material that is as addictive as all these viral videos then it has a chance.
The only real concern I have is that it is selling itself as a news channel. There really isn't much viral news out there on the internet. But it will be nice to see them give it a try anyways. Could be the first _new_ approach to television in years.
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And Microsoft invented the Binary Numbers.
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The policy change was not something that interested lawmakers. It was really Gore's pet project, he fought tooth and nail for it, and as I recall the margin of victory was narrow.
From the description in this news article, "Current" sounds like MTV without the music tapes. String together all the semi-hip news and pretentious lecture-in-disguise clips MTV now offers, and you get "Current"!
A friend who has participated in numerous "brainstorm" sessions in TV industry once described those meetings as "plenty of saliva storm but no brain". Now I know why.
The report says Gore bought the network for $70 million; my graphic blog, http://sunandfun.blogspot.com/, does not cost a dime to produce and offers plenty of entertainment.
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Eric Schmidt, formerly of Novell, now of Google, is a real political animal:
"It's all directed at a generation that thinks nothing of plugging into more than one media outlet at once...."
All without having the first clue about any of it. Brilliant.
Fuck the kids
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So basically, he's merging CNN Headline news with MTV and the Left of the US.
Sounds like it will be really appealing...
Maybe I'm being overly simplistic here: Is it wise to have the candidate from the 2000 election who made George W. Bush look like the guy "with the striking on-air personality" the head of any network (Cable or otherwise?).
Impossible,
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oh wait.. a tv episode for download? look there's even an interview with Bram Cohen..
You can even download the episode from a torrent, What is this world coming too!!
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Al Gore never claimed he invented the internet! Let's be clear about this. He said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."
Which is true, he was a part of a house sub comitte that funded the DARPA research to develop a communications system that would withstand a nuclear attack. What they came up with eventually was adopted by universities and then by the masses. It is now known as the internet. He didn't invent it, nor did he ever claim he did. He was a key figure in it's creation though.
WURD!!
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Wow, this opens up a whole new way for people to abuse Google--if you can get enough people to search for the same thing at any given time (or if you can virally distribute a script that'll do it for you) you might *conceivably* be able to get something on the air. Have they really thought this through? Imagine a couple million computers across the country bombing Google with some ridiculous or obnoxiously commercial search request (Golden-Palace.com, maybe?) j
2- It doesn't matter what Al Gore does, he is always inventing something new and we will all comment on his inventions endlessly!
which now stands at 53 stations nationwide, one of the busiest internet streams and has a presence on both satellite radio outlets.
progressive talk radio really must be flopping when clear channel starts getting in on the game.
just because YOU don't get it doesn't mean it a bad idea,
How so? They are still on the air and making money.
- Advanced the Internet
- Guest-starred multiple times on Futurama
- Was Vice-President
- On the Apple Board of Directors
- Now going into...um...network television.
I gotta tell you, I respect the guy. And this is only what I know about!i'd hit it so hard, if you pulled me out you'd be the king of britain [bash.org]
The founder of Air America also runs this investment fund - http://www.paradigmventure.com/past_investments.ht m
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81% IRR in 2003
I think they know what they are doing.
...that's why they're called Al-Gore-ithms.
A Yawning Festival.
I think my remote control will be broken anywhere near this channel.
Actually, for a literal interpertation:
"took the initiative in creating the internet."
taking initiative
to start, to begin, to initialize..
create
form, build, construct, develop, engineer..
One can disern that he was trying to take credit for the internet.
Sarah Vowell's book The Partly Cloudy Patriot has a chapter in it about how a remark that Al Gore made while speaking at a public school got misquoted by a single word and then blown up by the supposedly "liberal" media into a frenzy that took on a life of its own, and effectively, however unfairly and undeservedly, tarred Gore as a self-aggrandizing liar. I won't recount the story here... go borrow the book-on-cd from your local library. It's read by the author, so it'll be like having a defense of Al Gore read to you by Violet of The Incredibles.
... 'There's something I should know, I don't know why I should know it but someone knows it and I don't. So I'm going to have to make fun of him now.'"
From the book:
"[Gore] was widely perceived as arrogant. If you know something, you're not smart. You're a smarty-pants. It's annoying. People get annoyed with your knowledge. It goes back to high school, to not doing your homework
You are in error. No-one is screaming. Thank you for your cooperation.
But then you wouldn't really be competing, now would you?
Liberals call everyone Nazis yet they are the closest thing to it.
That is entirely incorrect. The Internet was around before Gore got involved with it. He did not invent it.
The quote is from Al Gore's interview in CNN. It is found there in context. The right wing has nothing to do with it.
' We could care less what you think about what Al Gore meant when he said that... '
Who cares what he meant. He clearly laid a huge whopper when he said he created something that was really around for a long time before he was on the scene. Gore's own words, not the right wing's.
If you do this, you will see that Gore was telling a big ol fibbie. If Quayle had lied like this, the liberals would be tearing him a new one for it. Gore's statement is no more a lie if Quayle said it: neither man had anything to do with creating the Internet.
No matter how you try to twist it, if you say you created something that others really created before you are around, you are telling a lie. It is a gross misinterpretation of the English language to claim otherwise: just because you like the politics of the particular liar in question.
Are you out of your mind? Who would vote for Clinton?
Gore on the other hand could win.
They are going about it in a "Vast Left Wing Conspiracy" fashion: a group of guys get together and think "let's get left-wing talk radio out there.": They are overthinking it, and such plans usually do not work.
Why not look at how Rush Limbaugh came about? No VRWC created him: he was just a talented radio personality who happened to be very conservative. If the conservatives did the "VRWC" thing, they would fail at it too: radio programs by Dennis Miller, Gingrich and P.J. O'Rourke would be fizzling oddities. This is what the "VRLC" did with non radio guys like Cuomo, Hightower, and Franken.
The key is for a very talented radio personality who happens to be left-wing to rise on his own talents and his own audience appeal. When this happens, you'll have your Rush-crusher. The guys who created "Air America" would be much better off if they ditched their no-radio-talent roster headliners and replaced them with rising stars in talk radio who are left wing who have built shows on their own merits. They already have some of this on their schedule.
They'd also do better if their marketing focus was "good radio programs" rather than "radio programs you will only listen to out of duty because you think that doing so will stick it to Rush and Hannity".
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He did not say this. He merely said he created it. It should also be pointed out that your interepretation is not even correct: the Internet was "generated" prior to Gore's arrival on the Congressional floor.
Air America are liberals, liberals arent always progressives. Liberals have a cultural agenda while progressives have a policy agenda. So while one group wants to legalize gay marriage, the other group wants universal healthcare, and often theres war between the factions of the far left and the Democrats.
Air America sucks because they do it all wrong. No ones going to listen to the government controlled radio to get their news, at least not if they are the progressive left or the far left, Air America is centerist left. Center left is actually right.
Think of it this way, how many people on Air America would agree to fighting for corporate responsibility? Have they suggested the corporations arent people? Air America is not the left. Al Franken? Who is he? They also have hosts no ones ever heard of or who don't deserve the right to be hosts. Instead of hollywood hosts you need to select some professors. Professors are the real leaders of the left, not the hollywood liberals. The professors are the ones who can talk about the real issues, ask the real questions. The hosts on Air America just react to the news.
They make every attempt. First, O'Reilly frequently says he is a commentator. Second, most the news part of Fox News is a distinct segment every half hour. O'Reilly and the other commentators even refer to these, often saying they "will be back after the news".
This is little different from CNN, which never called itself The Cable Style Network just because they ran "Style with Elsa Klensch" sometimes between their news updates.
I guess Al's research capabilities aren't that great. There is a CBC http://cbc.ca/ radio show called "The Current" http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/ that has been doing what he is talking about for a long time.
Except the inane google search voyerism. Those are bound to be rife with quality crap. How about we slashdot goolge during a show and search for "golfing in alaska"
Yes, he is talking about an acccomplishment that was not his. His accomplishments helped fund and expand the Internet during its ongoing growth. They had absolutely nothing to do with creating it. A lie is just a lie even if you preface it with "While in Congress."
Do you have other examples where someone rightly takes credit for "creating" when others had brought it into being previously? These have to be similar to Gore's quotation. No alterations such as "creating a New...." or "creating a different version of....".
How can this happen? The Internet had already been created years prior to this. How could he fund an action which was already paid for and done? How can this be?
So, it's going to be a show about porn?
BeauHD. Worst editor since kdawson.
53 *listeners*
...like the worst security failure in US history...
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This is one of the reforms I dislike the most. IMHO, it is a violation of my political rights to be forced to pay money political candidate campaigns that I do not like or agree with. Come on now, do you really want to be forced to give money to Pat Buchanan's campaign?
"Make all campaigns tax supported, give every candidate an equal ammount of money."
This also puts a big wound in the side of Democracy: now you have government choosing who will be in government by running the campaigns (when I think that federal funding should be eliminated, not increased). It is a big step toward the Soviet election situation.
"I think banning all private funds in campaigns would be a good start too. I say if you want to support a candidate you take out a commercial or ad space in the newspaper"
An interesting idea, but as we saw in the last election, the "independent" supporters tend to secretly collaborate (and thus become a part of) the campaign. The Move On, Swift Boaties, Soros, etc.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
At least he's not president :)
Not sure about that...
I do know Vinton Cerf was the first person on the 'Net. He was the second PC. Before that it wasn't a network.
Or so he explained.
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There is something to the realization that there is bias in all news media: bias in what they choose to report, what they do not choose to report, how they say it, how they don't say it, where they place it in the show, and so-on.
Of course, there is bias, and then there is BIAS. The ones who are respected as "the best journalists" are the ones who have a "bias" toward being "fair" to a degree that most others think they are fair, or they are good at selling their bias with a warm friendly voice.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
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I love the smell of self-immolating grammar-Nazis in the morning, don't you?
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
BTW, to do what they're doing, Gore and Hyatt bought the American distribution service providing "CBC Newsworld International". It looks a bit like we're in for another G4-TechTV-style switcheroo. With DirecTV having already dropped CNN International (shared channel with CNNfn), it's now going to become even more difficult for USA viewers to get any TV news with any detachment from a total USA-centric perspective (USA-bashing left or the flag-humping right)...
Still a poor choice of words, but you are spouting the same falsehoods as you see on TV/Slashdot.
It's funny how such a liberal crowd as Slashdotters and TV writers keep repeating the Republican-created meme that Gore "invented" the Internet. Does this make you fools, tools, or both? You could at least give the Republican party credit for knowing how to play you.
There's a reason they've grown to 53 so quickly.
Acquiescence leads to obliteration
Last year, Slashdot featured an article about :)
a guy who made a belt buckle that would show
search phrases from a certan search engine (damn,
I can't remember which one) that showed everyone
what other users typed. It wasn't real time; he
used a pre-recorded screen grab; probaly so
he could edit out such phrases as "I am a dork,
kick my ass girl".
I love reading that article. It's really funny. Paraphrased:
Myth: Al Gore said he invented the Internet.
Reality: Al Gore said he created the Internet.
It says the myth was false, and then goes on to prove it's true. I always find it funny.
I think you're in that parallel universe where Spock had a beard. Air America's problem is that it isn't mean spirited enough. As for MoveOn, they do great work and are by no means "nasty". Telling the truth isn't "nasty".
"If it's real, then it gets more interesting the closer you examine it. If it's not real, just the opposite is true." -
...it's a stupid name that's already been taken: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/th ecurrent/
Good radio station though. Maybe I should warn them that I slashdotted the site with their web feed...
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Posting as AC, but I added you to my friends list. You know firsthand how the Karma-bombs fall when the COnservatives speak here.
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It all sounds promising, but the challenge will be selling a new independent network in a crowded field to the handful of cable companies that control distribution, and to advertisers.
Perhaps someone needs to tell them about broadcatching. If that takes off (which I think it will), we won't really need a central institution for this kind of content anymore.
-ashot
Hmm... an interesting idea... however, It'd be interesting to see how it is actually being realized... It's a pity that there is nothing similar in Europe so far... Or am I wrong?
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Al Gore is so damn 1337!
First he invents the interweb, now this.
Next... he's going to cure cancer bring about world peace and make it so that toast falls butter side up when you drop it.
Awesome.
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Do you want your serach queries to be on (inter)national television? Think not. Small step to adding ip-addresses to it:
"The people in L.A. are searching for Banananas, whereas people in Amsterdam are searching for Strawberries. Detailed street statistics follow."
You sick bastard!
The usual Slaskdot workings:
Slashdot story -> Comments -> Highly modded comments -> Such comments with links -> Those links get followed -> Sites' servers get Slashdotted
This scenario is basically the same, but with a horrible twist:
Slashdot story -> Comments -> Highly modded comments -> Comment links to Slashdot -> That link gets followed -> Slashdot -> back to Slashdot story -> Endless loop kills Slashdot!
For the sake of my fellow nerds who want to read news that matters, I hope a very hungry grue is near you and that a power outage there is imminent.
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That anyone moderated this as "insightful" is an endictment of the moderating on Slashdot. It's pure flamebait....is this entire thread is. Guess the advice from the Slashdot folks not to impose your own political views when moderating falls on deaf ears.
Only boring people are ever bored.
Uhu, congratulations, you have just mixed together a lot of history in a few sentences. The Israel and Palestine conflict is much more complex and nobody can reduce it to "Terrorists killing Jews", a lot of innocent people on both sides are dying and all of them have the right to live on that soil.
The "Arab Nations"-Israel conflict is also very complicated and when it began, it had nothing to do with terrorism.
Every Al Quada expert they asked told the commision that there couldn't be a link between Al Quada and the Saddam because they had only one thing in common: the USA were their enemy. But Saddam had nothing to do with religion. He has used religion to manipulate his people (even leaders in democratic countries still do that) and he prosecuted religious groups in iraq, because he didn't want them to get influence.
After 9/11 the US government needed a real target and therefore they designed the 9/11 connection of Iraq.
BTW, what exactley has that to do with Internet TV?
Mudvayne IS pretty cool and exciting and original. Not that that lends any credibility to MTV or TRL or the public's general tastes in music, of course.
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Watch Microsoft buy him out ;-)
Al Gore also claimed to have "discovered" love canal (he didn't). He also claimed the book "Love Story" was inspired by he and tipper (it wasn't).
Not to mention that his wife was a key public figure in trying to censor "dirty" lyrics in music.
Not to mention that he was the vice-president of a very popular president during good economic times and he *still* lost the election.
It wasn't that GW Bush was so *good* at running, its just that Gore was so *bad* at running.
I blame him for the stupid mess GW Bush has gotten us into economically and politically. Its a real mess and Gore is to blame. Idiot.
Jeeze you people -- read the friggen' release notes.
In Humor 1.0, you got a surprise that tweaked your way of looking at things.
In version 2.0 you get something which reaffirms your existing world view, while not-so-subtly pandering to your pathetic desire to feel superior.
The word is that marketing was concerned that not enough people were getting the version 1, so the product manager borrowed the team responsible for the popular "blandish" feature of the Bamboozle project. Of course fans of the old Humor are unhappy and refusing to upgrade, but that's been more than offset by the throngs of new users who just couldn't manage version 1.
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When somebody comes up with a better counter strategy to repeat-the-lie-until-everybody-believes-its-true, then I'll be completely with you.
p le-scream-for-mercy -when-you-bring-them-up strategy.
Until then, I'll stick with the pointing-out-your-shameless-lies-until-normal-peo
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you and then you win.;-)
Can't we just be happy that someone with a little tiny bit of clout is throwing money at an interesting new idea! This whole thread has been a giant lampoon at Al Gore. But in reality we finally have someone with some serious money and serious high profile-ness and is taking a leap in the right direction.
Why don't we support him instead of making fun of one misquoted comment he made 10 years ago.
Grow up...and...
LET IT GO!
I guess the main thing he has working against him is the fact that he will be competing with Google, so the odds aren't in his favor.
After losing the presidential election, he has moved into newer pastures to make a killing. :)
good luck with your new enterprise Mr Gore. And make sure it has support for linux. heh heh
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Much ado about nothing, like his inventing the Inet blobbling I have forgotten about Al's latest attempt to shake the scruffy looking professorship image and his slow but rightful slide into American oblivion
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These two are Air America's only chance at success: put them and others like them at the front. They are experienced radio personalities who happen to be liberal. Others in this thread said to save Air America by bringing in Chomsky and Carville. This would only compound the mistake of relying on non-radio people.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
I think this might be fine only if the public contributions were voluntary. A checkoff on the tax form, like some states have done. No one should be forced to give money to candidates that go against their interest. This still does not take care of the other problem with it: it increases government control of the campaigns.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
In a couple of decades he'll be telling us he invented the steam engine!
I don't find this one to be problematic, since, even if Mr. Gore had made this claim, it would have still been true.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
The other guy stumbles when he tries to ennuciate a multi-syllable word like InterNet.
The audience will learn to appreciate Springer's serious side. Naked lesbian dwarves spitting at each other just does not fly on radio.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
"Current will also air segments every half hour showing TV viewers what Google searchers are tapping into at that moment -- everything from current events to tourist destinations."
Wow, that sounds almost as interesting as watching paint dry.
While you are busy knocking every bit of talk radio would you mind mentioning the fact that in the last three years NPR and regional affiliates have developed a left leaning slant that makes CNN look like Pat Buchaneon.
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No, seriously, aaaah ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Yeah, I'm laughing at you, not with you.
I definitely remember QUBE. My grandma had that. One of the things that stands out in my mind was those little plastic inserts that Warner sent out each month as channels changed. Oh and I remember being told to never push the buttons on the right third of the box, as those were the Pay channels. Everyone who had QUBE back then was on the bleeding edge of technology, but naturally I could never convince my parents to get QUBE, let alone just ordinary cable.
It is sort of amusing. Let's look at what happened:
1. In the heat of an unrehearsed interview, Gore likely meant to speak proudly of his "early adopter" Internet-related initiatives. However, what came out was a historically incorrect claim that he actually created the thing instead of just helped it along.
2. Later Gore says that the "creation" statement was a mistake, and he did not really mean to say that.
By insisting that the statement in #1 was really true, these "fanatics" are calling Gore a liar on #2.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Mr. Gore did a lot of great things for the 'Net. He deserves plenty of laud 'n' kudos for doing what he really did. We don't have to add to his resume something he actually did not do (and even said he did not do: Gore said that his create statement was a mistake.)
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Thanks for coming at it from a purely partisan "my party is good, the other party is evil" point of view.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
What do they have to do with his statement? Nothing. When I first heard about the controversy, I went to the CNN web site and found Gore's own statement... one in which "invent" is an accurate paraphrase. Don't blame the Republicans for Gore's misstatement.
"The vision that Gore articulated during his congressional service was of an Internet that did not yet exist"
The same is true of Spamford Wallace's dream of an internet full of spam. Did Spamford end up inventing the Internet too?
"Actually, it is. They are the ones who coined the phrase "invented the internet""
It is an accurate paraphrase, and the words mean the exact same thing in the context Gore used them. You are splitting hairs that are too thin for splitting, and again, the Republicans had nothing to do with this. (just as the Democrats did not force GWB to make his "wings take dream" speech)
"Why are you wasting your time discussing it here? Write to Cerf and Kahn and tell them how wrong they are"
I've read Cerf's statements. They are correct. They thank Gore for helping expand the Internet. Cerf does not anywhere claim that Gore had anything to do with creating it. If Cerf did this, he would be misspeaking as well.
"Politicians take credit for their legislative creations all the time, without having words like "invent" misattributed to them"
If you apply "invent" to the creation of a singular technological entity, it is not a misattribution. The Internet is just such an entity that the word "invent" perfectly applies to the creation of it.
Gore misspoke. He said so later.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
What is more, at one point the USA and Saddam were (politically) best friends, and Bush and Bin Laden stem from circles with close business relationships. It's easy to make things appear black-and-white on TV (even on color TV) but the real situation is a little more complicated.
What these people have in common is that they are/were fueled by oil wealth.
An insightful post about politics, actually modded as insightful?
I ran into your comment while meta-modding, so who knows if you'll ever read this, but I like the cut of your jib.
That said, I take issuewith you on the majority of your post. The electoral college is around specifically so that the small states have some say in elections. Yes, the senate provides 2 legislators per state, but that doesn't mean anything come vote counting time. As paltry "flyover countries" per state electoral vote number is, they add up, and precisely as intended. If it weren't for the electoral college, the party which controls new york and california would win every go round. As it is, democrats need to get florida to make it a contest, which is why the state is so contested.
Electoral college: Don't like it, wouldn't change it.