would not say anything was stolen (except maybe the logo from Gnutella.com, IIRC)
correction then, the name was EXPLOITED for a commercial gain in a CLOSED environment. At least the other spyware incorporating gnutella folks pretend to share protocol info with each other, shareaza has gone out on a limb with a marketing ploy for the name. Its a decent protocol but quite simply mike is whoring the gnutella name to get market share for shareaza. anybody else marginally disturbed by so much furor by folks trying to *make money* (usually thru ad/spyware) off programs so obviously used for technically illegal purposes?
disclaimer: i use kazaa lite AND gnucleus, so instead of jerking off in a corner about which network is better, I can search two networks.
as another side note, avoid overnet, one shouldnt need.Net just to search through a glorified ftp site.
yup. i wouldnt mind a few 'we're going to war we're all gonna die' posts here and there. its kinda something affecting EVERYONE in the entire world, so its 'news for nerds, stuff that matters' as well.
im a/. nerd and it matters to me.
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i was just about to hit reply and say the very same thing. some geeks around here have very little at all in the way of business sense.
you were suppose to have vnc running on her machine for 'tech purposes for when it breaks' (only if she asks what the icon is), then when she breaks up with you, slowly and methodically extract your revenge.
And besides: the fattest wallet always wins, regardless of any other considerations...
Yep. Whoever can pay their lawyer the most wins. Unless defendants lawyer sees the case as a real certainty to get fees from the plaintiff. Its disturbing to know just what goes on behind the scenes with attorneys.
they arent screenshotting the site, they are parsing data out of it. like watching NBC, writing down the facts of the news yourself, and rebroadcasting it using your own newscast.
I disagree with your example. they arent taking something physically, its like having some dude walk in to your store with a camera, taking a picture of prices on your menu, and leaving. You have the menu, you expect people to look at it, comes with the territory.
Btw, did you completely miss the boat? In any example, the guy is taking your menu to republish it in another form, but he is not starting a competing business. HE IS SENDING YOU BUSINESS. HELLo. Its like a free sales rep.
the errors are PRESENTED as facts to whomever was viewing the map, they are not presented as a creative element. the defendant had no reason to be careful, they were simply recreating something presented as a fact.
ok you hit it right with the competence part. showing up for an interview in jeans would be rather incompetent. as far as the elitest yuppie thing, you obviously have the dollar sign disease clouding your judgement. I dont make that much money yet.;)
Oh and just as a side note, I did have a nice day, and you are the first person around here to ever respond to that.
Well as a disclaimer I work in a law office so professional attire is something I understand. The problem I see is when people cross over to a seemingly (i said *seemingly*;) ) elitest mindset about 'professionalism' and decide that folks dressed in anything less than a collared shirt and dockers (jeans only on friday, you slack ass hippies!) are less than adequate to take part in their daily social routine and don't deserve a decent chance at demonstrating their competence before being judged.
"Hi, I'm Xerithane and I can code mad l33t and recite star wars backwards."
You're hired.
ps- Just as a comparison, I'm a hardcore gamer, I love doing it, I don't get to do it all day at work, but I still get burnt out on gaming. Different strokes for different folks. And if my doctor walked in wearing a ThinkGeek slogan, I'd be impressed, my doctor is over 50 and I don't think he's ever even looked at the screen of his secretary's machine. A computer illiterate "professional" of ANY line of work destroys my confidence.
correciton: The ACLU is hellbent on making sure that the government doesn't openly and actively endorse a particular religion. You know, its that whole seperation of church and state thingy some of us give a rats ass about.
What 'freedom to listen to whatever the hell you want' act? Why would does common sense need legislature? (rhetorical question)
and for every 'just' cause, there are 300 more important ones, and *1,000* more being peddled by greedy attorneys looking to get their fees paid.
I think a.xxx for any material worse than Playboy would be a good 'standard' for the internet, but not legislated. Or just force them all to use Usenet. If a kid can learn to navigate newsgroups, he's probably smart enough to mentally deal with porn (but that's probably just me).;)
It should be interesting to see just what kind of timetable it takes my son to get into such things. I'm surely going to be running filters and blockers of some sort while he's really young. Haven't really looked into yet (got a few years and hope to keep him OUTSIDE instead of stuck inside in front of a screen going blind like his father)
The slavery part was not overboard if you got the point. It wasn't a comparison of the morality between the two, it was a raw example of a period of time where something that seems so obviously flawed was still perpetuated. Any arguments for avoiding or changing the practice sadly end up only being accepted in hindsight for the majority of people.
Anything I say about IP being bad doesn't go over well with business people, especially the attorneys I work for, but after the 'revolution' comes and the world is freed from the oppresive groups in society... sure, thatll happn... it will be a perfectly acceptable view for anyone to take, just like modern day views on salvery.
People are used to certain ways and won't think twice about it unless they are forced to. Laziness, that's the American way.
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you, sir, have negative funnied me for the entire day.
would not say anything was stolen (except maybe the logo from Gnutella.com, IIRC)
.Net just to search through a glorified ftp site.
correction then, the name was EXPLOITED for a commercial gain in a CLOSED environment. At least the other spyware incorporating gnutella folks pretend to share protocol info with each other, shareaza has gone out on a limb with a marketing ploy for the name. Its a decent protocol but quite simply mike is whoring the gnutella name to get market share for shareaza. anybody else marginally disturbed by so much furor by folks trying to *make money* (usually thru ad/spyware) off programs so obviously used for technically illegal purposes?
disclaimer: i use kazaa lite AND gnucleus, so instead of jerking off in a corner about which network is better, I can search two networks.
as another side note, avoid overnet, one shouldnt need
the new hammers look pretty and all but a hammer is a fucking hammer, i mean c'mon.
are we related? my dad said the same exact thing.
yup.
/. nerd and it matters to me.
i wouldnt mind a few 'we're going to war we're all gonna die' posts here and there. its kinda something affecting EVERYONE in the entire world, so its 'news for nerds, stuff that matters' as well.
im a
i was just about to hit reply and say the very same thing. some geeks around here have very little at all in the way of business sense.
you were suppose to have vnc running on her machine for 'tech purposes for when it breaks' (only if she asks what the icon is), then when she breaks up with you, slowly and methodically extract your revenge.
Or just go get a new woman.
actually thats a fairly common occurence.
people see 'mailer DEMON, FATAL error' return mail and think they're going to hell for emailing a bad address.
And besides: the fattest wallet always wins, regardless of any other considerations...
Yep. Whoever can pay their lawyer the most wins. Unless defendants lawyer sees the case as a real certainty to get fees from the plaintiff. Its disturbing to know just what goes on behind the scenes with attorneys.
they arent screenshotting the site, they are parsing data out of it. like watching NBC, writing down the facts of the news yourself, and rebroadcasting it using your own newscast.
I disagree with your example. they arent taking something physically, its like having some dude walk in to your store with a camera, taking a picture of prices on your menu, and leaving. You have the menu, you expect people to look at it, comes with the territory.
Btw, did you completely miss the boat? In any example, the guy is taking your menu to republish it in another form, but he is not starting a competing business. HE IS SENDING YOU BUSINESS. HELLo. Its like a free sales rep.
What right do you have? Dude, ever heard of "copy" right?
For the redunant, 200th time, its meant for creative, original works, NOT facts. In geek terms, you can copyright 'information' but not 'data'.
the errors are PRESENTED as facts to whomever was viewing the map, they are not presented as a creative element. the defendant had no reason to be careful, they were simply recreating something presented as a fact.
One might as well scream: Arrgghh! Brain cancer from the RF generated by my own brain! Oh noooo!!!
:-P
OH MY GOD I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF THAT! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!
But seriously, I was being sarcastic in the first place.
then what's the other 60%?
thats the secret ingredient you simply dont want to know about.
soylent green is.... PEOPLE!?
ok you hit it right with the competence part. showing up for an interview in jeans would be rather incompetent. as far as the elitest yuppie thing, you obviously have the dollar sign disease clouding your judgement. I dont make that much money yet. ;)
Oh and just as a side note, I did have a nice day, and you are the first person around here to ever respond to that.
Well as a disclaimer I work in a law office so professional attire is something I understand. The problem I see is when people cross over to a seemingly (i said *seemingly* ;) ) elitest mindset about 'professionalism' and decide that folks dressed in anything less than a collared shirt and dockers (jeans only on friday, you slack ass hippies!) are less than adequate to take part in their daily social routine and don't deserve a decent chance at demonstrating their competence before being judged.
:-D
Did that make any sense?
Have a nice day.
"Hi, I'm Xerithane and I can code mad l33t and recite star wars backwards."
You're hired.
ps- Just as a comparison, I'm a hardcore gamer, I love doing it, I don't get to do it all day at work, but I still get burnt out on gaming. Different strokes for different folks. And if my doctor walked in wearing a ThinkGeek slogan, I'd be impressed, my doctor is over 50 and I don't think he's ever even looked at the screen of his secretary's machine. A computer illiterate "professional" of ANY line of work destroys my confidence.
mmm, brain cancer from cpu rf, just what i always wanted.
touché to you sir, touché
correciton: The ACLU is hellbent on making sure that the government doesn't openly and actively endorse a particular religion. You know, its that whole seperation of church and state thingy some of us give a rats ass about.
What 'freedom to listen to whatever the hell you want' act? Why would does common sense need legislature? (rhetorical question)
and for every 'just' cause, there are 300 more important ones, and *1,000* more being peddled by greedy attorneys looking to get their fees paid.
I think a .xxx for any material worse than Playboy would be a good 'standard' for the internet, but not legislated. Or just force them all to use Usenet. If a kid can learn to navigate newsgroups, he's probably smart enough to mentally deal with porn (but that's probably just me). ;)
It should be interesting to see just what kind of timetable it takes my son to get into such things. I'm surely going to be running filters and blockers of some sort while he's really young. Haven't really looked into yet (got a few years and hope to keep him OUTSIDE instead of stuck inside in front of a screen going blind like his father)
The slavery part was not overboard if you got the point. It wasn't a comparison of the morality between the two, it was a raw example of a period of time where something that seems so obviously flawed was still perpetuated. Any arguments for avoiding or changing the practice sadly end up only being accepted in hindsight for the majority of people.
Anything I say about IP being bad doesn't go over well with business people, especially the attorneys I work for, but after the 'revolution' comes and the world is freed from the oppresive groups in society... sure, thatll happn... it will be a perfectly acceptable view for anyone to take, just like modern day views on salvery.
People are used to certain ways and won't think twice about it unless they are forced to. Laziness, that's the American way.
its slashdot
speak your mind
lose said karma.
*goes off to use his moderator points now*
are you under a misguided impression that abusing a monopoly is really that different from robbing a bank?
(no FDIC to insure those consumers when you get ripped off by the monopoly abusing company)