no but thanks for telling me its here, i will soon be raiding all mail carriers in jax and you will NEVAR see your dreamy little jukebox. damnit i didnt get one for xmas. and im working. like they said above, go to college.
matter of factly, that is exactly like AOL buying Qwest and reqruiring an AOL email client. AOL has its own little land of monopolizing. Qwest sold their ISP service to MSN. The USERS of Qwest had no choice in this. Now, after the sale, MSN is FORCING THE USERS to use MS Products to check their mail. Its classic embrace and extend. Open your eyes, jackass. not everyone is a linux zealot who hates microsoft. Some of us just have enough common sense to notice when someone/some company is just an all around jerk. MS has never admitted to doing ANYTHING anti-competitive, they flat out deny it. Do you hear me? They FLAT OUT DENY destroying Netscape. or OS/2. Good Business analysts can look at what happened and tell you straight up that MS crushed them with their unscrupulous business practices.
Its free code, IP is bullshit that the Corporations like to have around so they can sue anybody they don't want to compete with. Soren be the big man and just say no big deal and move on. Unless it was slashdot that blew it out of proportion and you just told the ppl to slap your notice on it since they are using your code without trying to make a big deal about (in that case, shame on over zealous slashdot writers!!!)
Correction: The Problem *IS* Trademark Law. It gives monopolies and monopolies are bad. This is slashdot, remember? (sarcasm meant, but point is still serious)
Incentive? You a republican? Things will be invented and created, wether or not there is some sort of incentive. I think being alive in itself is an incentive. That little dribble in the constitution is just big money speaking (and no, big money hasnt changed much since the late 1700s, its just managed to come up with new ways that hurt We The People).
Ok, here's what you really need to do. Forget the lawyer. Costs too much and you get nothing in return. You get a good quality Colt Commando on the black market, plenty of ammo, and a few grenades. Then you walk in and knee cap anyone you dont like, but be sure to aim for the head for the management types. See, at least you get a cool machine gun out of that equation.
If you don't wish to heed that advice, (and dont blame me if you do go that crazy) just walk away. Self employment is the only option these days... we all secretly know the big corps can crush any small business in an instant. And we still havent forgot about SLASHDOT SELLING OUT. That was the beginning of the end of the world for us all.
If you're going to have a government doing what the US government is doing today, it should distribute wealth more even and fucking take care of the people.
Registered Democrat, Green voting bastard here,
You moron, its more of a republican view. Democrats (real democrats, not the demo-republicans in office) would want it distributed to a group of individual people elected in a real election, NOT to a group people part of a billion dollar INDUSTRY. And yes, being liberal IS part of being a democrat, all you "conservative demos" need to open your eyes to the control switch they installed in your mind. (same goes to you, dad).
Ever wonder how much cooler technology could and would be if marketing and audience targeting was left out of the loop? (good example: the Sony Pen-sized music player requiring sony's piece of shit encoding format instead of being able to simply play mp3 format music in the name of 'copyright protection'). Btw, all the "copyright/intellectual property protection" research and development dollars are fucking useless.
Do you not see? All of your arguments are about MONEY. Making an honest living would be SELLING software and not LICENSING it. How do you know that if the books were copied for free no one would want to be an author? ahem.. GNU/GPL/BSDed software. Point is made.
copyrights and patents grant a temporary monopoly in an effort to promote the the well being and the advancement of humanity and the sciences. the idea of property is based in greed. do you really think the patent system works perfectly well in the UK and Europe? are you that naive? how does granting this monopoly ON AN IDEA further humanity? 'promotes others to develop new ideas'? im sorry, but that doesn't flow with me. people will have ideas and be creative whether or not you give them a 'right to be greedy' excuse. thats all it comes down too.
There is no such thing as intellectual property. Every idea and every thing is a derivative of that that came before it, only God's first thought could be intellectual property. (and I use the word God not in the divination-praise-the-chruch-send-them-money way, but in the unknown-reaches way, im not exactly a church goer).
If you think patents and copyright are wrong, do not accept them. Ignore them. Fight them. Please do not simply give in and go along with what some magic talking head says to you.
first they were too scared to touch an open system because god forbid everyone can see what you system does. now they are afraid of an individual having any control over the development cycle of the open system because it might not work efficiently with their closed hardware architecture. when its all opened, then we'll be free, until then, pirate windows, run linux, and stick it to them. billion dollar industry my ass. I've spent over $20,000 (mostly my parents money) on computer related items (software MOSTLY) and today most of my software has to be pirated because I can't afford a fucking $400 piece of software just for a little bit of use. fuck the SPA. and yes goddammit I bought a copy of doom 2. that damn load scare tactic worked. of course that was 6 years after i first pirated and played doom 2.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Select, Start. Poof, 2 players, 30 lives each and you're ready to beat Contra.
Jon Katz, your assertion that gamers become impatient is not entirely true. Patience is something gaming can teach you. I'm overly patient with everything as a result. From the days of trying to dial up to the local l33t BBS to get the newest update for Doom (1.666 is still the coolest version) and sitting in front of the computer, praying to your modem that it will connect and not get a busy signal, patience is forced upon you, or you will go mad.
Fighting games in their early stages were a lot more quick decision oriented, but now all the Tekken Tag crap requires upmost patience and timing. Trust me, thats how all those Asian kids kick my ass all the time. I've got patience, but the timing is awkward and I'm use to old school fighters where as soon as you press an attack button, they actually attack.
Hardcore gamers are better off for being gamers. Perhaps we are a bit unhealthy with our need to play for hours a day, but not only do we have the sweested hand-eye coordination;), we can learn stuff. Yeah thats right, stuff. Sure. Thats the ticket. Now its 'educational.' Yay. Ok, back to my Rogue Spear (Covert Ops is crap) and Unreal Tournament. And any truly hardcore gamer knows that Q3Arena SUCKS!
Idiot Mentality:
Comparing a Hacker Mentality to driving an 18 wheeler into the middle of the street and letting people wreck and not caring when people die.
Thats the brainwashing the government and corporate powers that be want you to have, so they can easily and without questions of rights gain jurisdiction against anybody *they* deem offensive to the people of the United States. Hackers are just people too. And of course, like in the real world, some of them are idiot assholes, but most of them are good people with good intentions. Don't punish an entire group of people just because there are a few bad ones.. Do you throw out an entire dozen eggs when just one or two are cracked? NO, you get rid of the cracked ones, you don't smash all twelve.
we're just taking our time with it. You can get 50k a year w/out a degree right now and its keeping the geeks n techies out of college at the moment.. we'll get there, but just not until we've made some money.:)
They database EVERY SINGLE BIT OF INFORMATION they can and sell it between each other. Data whoring ANY data than can be turned into information is what many companies are beginning to do. All of the 'enter your info to proceed to download' is just your everyday datawhoring. People don't want to invade your privacy, GOVERNMENTS AND CORPORATIONS DO. Sure they are run by people, but nobody takes accountability when there are 30 people involved in a decision that makes investors happy. It all comes down to GREED in the end. They want more money. Thats it. Do you want me to know your home address and personal information so I can come a'knockin on your front door to sell you some soap? Educate yourself more, don't be a republican, and be wary of most people in general anyways. You never know how crazy or what insane freaking idea someone has about the most basic concepts of life. If you give up your right to privacy, speech comes next.
Join The Kult, Spread the virus, and wake people up. Fight the powers that be.
Then WTF would you have us do? Kill all the fucking Republicans? (Not that its that bad of an idea.. of course, we just need to take out the poster boy, GWB Jr., the killin'est bast'rd of 'em all in texas).
DMCA is a big piece of crap. Its unlawful in my eyes, it puts too much power in the hands of big corporations, thus, as a citizen of the united states, I declare it null, void, and ILLEGAL.
Get in the damn information loop people, slashdot cannot be your online source of news.
Gnutella was created after AOL bought Nullsoft. AFTER.. after Justin Frankel signed over his company to satan, after that little contract had that 'everything you think, breathe, eat, see, or smell is our property' clause in it, after the winamp/icq fan-world ended.
Slashdot Mirror
you obviously haven't played me much. super defense is the only way to play if you want to win against me.
praise thee, my son.
no but thanks for telling me its here, i will soon be raiding all mail carriers in jax and you will NEVAR see your dreamy little jukebox. damnit i didnt get one for xmas. and im working. like they said above, go to college.
im at work. :(
Bruce, are you really my daddy?
matter of factly, that is exactly like AOL buying Qwest and reqruiring an AOL email client. AOL has its own little land of monopolizing. Qwest sold their ISP service to MSN. The USERS of Qwest had no choice in this. Now, after the sale, MSN is FORCING THE USERS to use MS Products to check their mail. Its classic embrace and extend. Open your eyes, jackass. not everyone is a linux zealot who hates microsoft. Some of us just have enough common sense to notice when someone/some company is just an all around jerk. MS has never admitted to doing ANYTHING anti-competitive, they flat out deny it. Do you hear me? They FLAT OUT DENY destroying Netscape. or OS/2. Good Business analysts can look at what happened and tell you straight up that MS crushed them with their unscrupulous business practices.
Its free code, IP is bullshit that the Corporations like to have around so they can sue anybody they don't want to compete with. Soren be the big man and just say no big deal and move on. Unless it was slashdot that blew it out of proportion and you just told the ppl to slap your notice on it since they are using your code without trying to make a big deal about (in that case, shame on over zealous slashdot writers!!!)
its Mario KART you f-king moron. Everyone knows this. My faith in /. has dwindled 2d6 on this day.
Correction: The Problem *IS* Trademark Law. It gives monopolies and monopolies are bad. This is slashdot, remember? (sarcasm meant, but point is still serious)
-=Gargoyle_sNake
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And then we dropped a bomb on his head. All your incinerated ashes are belong to us!!!
And don't mess with Texas.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
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Technically speaking, wouldn't smashing a 21" monitor over your head be doing something about it?
-=Gargoyle_sNake
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Incentive? You a republican? Things will be invented and created, wether or not there is some sort of incentive. I think being alive in itself is an incentive. That little dribble in the constitution is just big money speaking (and no, big money hasnt changed much since the late 1700s, its just managed to come up with new ways that hurt We The People).
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
Ok, here's what you really need to do. Forget the lawyer. Costs too much and you get nothing in return. You get a good quality Colt Commando on the black market, plenty of ammo, and a few grenades. Then you walk in and knee cap anyone you dont like, but be sure to aim for the head for the management types. See, at least you get a cool machine gun out of that equation.
If you don't wish to heed that advice, (and dont blame me if you do go that crazy) just walk away. Self employment is the only option these days... we all secretly know the big corps can crush any small business in an instant. And we still havent forgot about SLASHDOT SELLING OUT. That was the beginning of the end of the world for us all.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
get it right ^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you're going to have a government doing what the US government is doing today, it should distribute wealth more even and fucking take care of the people.
Registered Democrat, Green voting bastard here,
You moron, its more of a republican view. Democrats (real democrats, not the demo-republicans in office) would want it distributed to a group of individual people elected in a real election, NOT to a group people part of a billion dollar INDUSTRY. And yes, being liberal IS part of being a democrat, all you "conservative demos" need to open your eyes to the control switch they installed in your mind. (same goes to you, dad).
Ever wonder how much cooler technology could and would be if marketing and audience targeting was left out of the loop? (good example: the Sony Pen-sized music player requiring sony's piece of shit encoding format instead of being able to simply play mp3 format music in the name of 'copyright protection'). Btw, all the "copyright/intellectual property protection" research and development dollars are fucking useless.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
Do you not see? All of your arguments are about MONEY. Making an honest living would be SELLING software and not LICENSING it. How do you know that if the books were copied for free no one would want to be an author? ahem.. GNU/GPL/BSDed software. Point is made.
All your base are belong to us.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
copyrights and patents grant a temporary monopoly in an effort to promote the the well being and the advancement of humanity and the sciences. the idea of property is based in greed. do you really think the patent system works perfectly well in the UK and Europe? are you that naive? how does granting this monopoly ON AN IDEA further humanity? 'promotes others to develop new ideas'? im sorry, but that doesn't flow with me. people will have ideas and be creative whether or not you give them a 'right to be greedy' excuse. thats all it comes down too.
There is no such thing as intellectual property. Every idea and every thing is a derivative of that that came before it, only God's first thought could be intellectual property. (and I use the word God not in the divination-praise-the-chruch-send-them-money way, but in the unknown-reaches way, im not exactly a church goer).
If you think patents and copyright are wrong, do not accept them. Ignore them. Fight them. Please do not simply give in and go along with what some magic talking head says to you.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
first they were too scared to touch an open system because god forbid everyone can see what you system does. now they are afraid of an individual having any control over the development cycle of the open system because it might not work efficiently with their closed hardware architecture. when its all opened, then we'll be free, until then, pirate windows, run linux, and stick it to them. billion dollar industry my ass. I've spent over $20,000 (mostly my parents money) on computer related items (software MOSTLY) and today most of my software has to be pirated because I can't afford a fucking $400 piece of software just for a little bit of use. fuck the SPA. and yes goddammit I bought a copy of doom 2. that damn load scare tactic worked. of course that was 6 years after i first pirated and played doom 2.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Select, Start. Poof, 2 players, 30 lives each and you're ready to beat Contra.
;), we can learn stuff. Yeah thats right, stuff. Sure. Thats the ticket. Now its 'educational.' Yay. Ok, back to my Rogue Spear (Covert Ops is crap) and Unreal Tournament. And any truly hardcore gamer knows that Q3Arena SUCKS!
Jon Katz, your assertion that gamers become impatient is not entirely true. Patience is something gaming can teach you. I'm overly patient with everything as a result. From the days of trying to dial up to the local l33t BBS to get the newest update for Doom (1.666 is still the coolest version) and sitting in front of the computer, praying to your modem that it will connect and not get a busy signal, patience is forced upon you, or you will go mad.
Fighting games in their early stages were a lot more quick decision oriented, but now all the Tekken Tag crap requires upmost patience and timing. Trust me, thats how all those Asian kids kick my ass all the time. I've got patience, but the timing is awkward and I'm use to old school fighters where as soon as you press an attack button, they actually attack.
Hardcore gamers are better off for being gamers. Perhaps we are a bit unhealthy with our need to play for hours a day, but not only do we have the sweested hand-eye coordination
-=Gargoyle_sNake
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Please read THIS sir, and then tell me its just liberal leftists. Don't be fooled, democracy really has left the building.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
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Idiot Mentality:
Comparing a Hacker Mentality to driving an 18 wheeler into the middle of the street and letting people wreck and not caring when people die.
Thats the brainwashing the government and corporate powers that be want you to have, so they can easily and without questions of rights gain jurisdiction against anybody *they* deem offensive to the people of the United States. Hackers are just people too. And of course, like in the real world, some of them are idiot assholes, but most of them are good people with good intentions. Don't punish an entire group of people just because there are a few bad ones.. Do you throw out an entire dozen eggs when just one or two are cracked? NO, you get rid of the cracked ones, you don't smash all twelve.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
we're just taking our time with it. You can get 50k a year w/out a degree right now and its keeping the geeks n techies out of college at the moment.. we'll get there, but just not until we've made some money. :)
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
They database EVERY SINGLE BIT OF INFORMATION they can and sell it between each other. Data whoring ANY data than can be turned into information is what many companies are beginning to do. All of the 'enter your info to proceed to download' is just your everyday datawhoring. People don't want to invade your privacy, GOVERNMENTS AND CORPORATIONS DO. Sure they are run by people, but nobody takes accountability when there are 30 people involved in a decision that makes investors happy. It all comes down to GREED in the end. They want more money. Thats it. Do you want me to know your home address and personal information so I can come a'knockin on your front door to sell you some soap? Educate yourself more, don't be a republican, and be wary of most people in general anyways. You never know how crazy or what insane freaking idea someone has about the most basic concepts of life. If you give up your right to privacy, speech comes next.
Join The Kult, Spread the virus, and wake people up. Fight the powers that be.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
Then WTF would you have us do? Kill all the fucking Republicans? (Not that its that bad of an idea.. of course, we just need to take out the poster boy, GWB Jr., the killin'est bast'rd of 'em all in texas).
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
DMCA is a big piece of crap. Its unlawful in my eyes, it puts too much power in the hands of big corporations, thus, as a citizen of the united states, I declare it null, void, and ILLEGAL.
FUCK THE DMCA.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-
Get in the damn information loop people, slashdot cannot be your online source of news.
Gnutella was created after AOL bought Nullsoft. AFTER.. after Justin Frankel signed over his company to satan, after that little contract had that 'everything you think, breathe, eat, see, or smell is our property' clause in it, after the winamp/icq fan-world ended.
-=Gargoyle_sNake
-=-=-=-