Pretty clear to me; keep it closed source! Security through Obscurity is the signature of M$, the US government is infiltrated by M$ and this proposal shows how far they've gotten.
Are you blind?
They force you to change over to Outlook.
And unless you get it working under WINE this means you've got to switch to M$ Windows as well.
There is only one description: M$ = A Kartel striving to become a Monopoly.
And the logical action is anti-trust legislation.
They (M$) sure shows they trust the present governement......
It's hard to tell where the figure 250M DM comes from.
Indeed not much considering the size of the German federal governement.
But I'm afraid you mean it's a lot for just 5000 computers
In that case: read the article again!
Oops, you're comparing the uncomparable; the CD player that became cheaper is mainly a product and the CD (music) you play on it is largely a service
These two have a vastly different basis for valuation in our economy, just look at the average wages (labour is a service) over those same years.
Bad examples; it's more along the lines of building a new roof or foundation on/under your house, it makes the house better but only when you retain the rest of the house.
Or like putting new tires on your car, don't sell the rest of the car.....
Sorry, but it's the Brits and Americans that for some unfathomable reason dropped the decimal comma for the point.
I.e. a (very) few foreign cultures do NOT use the comma as decimal.
You missed the point: the issue is not pirated software but obsolete software (OS).
Of course buying an upgrade only makes the licence complete when you have both the original and the upgrade licence.
But there are people that buy a full install of XP and there is no reason why you would not be allowed to sell off the now redundant W'3.1-'95,'98 or ME licence.
Be aware that the limitation of/connection to original equipment that M$ sees in it's OEM licences does usually not uphold outside of the US.
The guy was hired in '91 and signed a non-competition paper.
In '95 an E-mail exchange with a competitor was found out.
The company claimed he agreed on hiring he could only use company supplied equipment for company business, the case went through the various courts.
The result centers around the European Directive on Fundamental Human Rights. According to the court this was breached when the company accessed a folder called "Private" on his computer and found the E-mail with a competitor. The fact that the E-mail did not cover the subject/nature of the guy's employment was also considered.
The court ruled the fundamental freedom of this individual of higher value than the agreament about business-only use of the computer.
The best part of it is that although Jurisprudence does not usually carry weight across borders, the reference to the European Directive is possibly usefull to for example Brits that have little to no protection under national law.
And had my digital camera + laptop running the results as a slidshow.
People would come up and say "I'd like this pic" and I'd put them as E-mail in the Out Box.
This morning they found them in their In Box.
Cost: Next to nothing.
Quality: Excelent.
Bonus 1: Any number of copies.
Bonus 2: You can edit out the undesirables;-).
Because in the UK these camera's can be and are installed not just by the police.
And there is NO authority overseeing the use (or abuse) of the tapes (though recently there has been some progess).
Such a system needs a very tight set of laws and regulations (also for the police) before it can be used to the benefit of all without getting into a '1984' situation.
As one of the causes for the troubles you've witnessed you should consider the social-economic situation of the UK compared with the rest of Europe.
Some examples: one of the largest numbers of people in poverty, sub-standard health care and filth everywhere.
Of course, you don't get much international telemarketing, so there are going to be a few issues there that will need resolution.
Hmm, in my 6+ years on the net I've hardly seen Dutch spam, nearly all of it is from the USofA or the UK promoting stupid national-only schemes.
And in The Netherlands.
Though I'm not absolutely sure about the latest licences, courts have in the past upheld that the licence in effect is nothing more than the right of the owner to run / use a single copy of the software at your own discretion.
Anything else was considered frivolous.
This means for instance that when you've bought a computer with a Dutch version of Windows there is nothing stopping you replacing it with a copied / borrowed English version. Because you do own a licence to run Windows.
And the courts have clearly seen no tangible difference between the various language versions.
Well, what about if they'd just charge a decent amount for an upgrade, M$ upgrades are building on existing technologie. It's not like they re-invent the OS with every release, so how can an upgrade be so expensive....
Wrong, let's take a kit-car like the Lous 7, anyone with determination can buy the individual bits, put it together and sell it. No legal problems as long as you don't claim it to be a Lotus, you can even without problems claim it's a copy/replica of a Lotus.
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Have you not checked out the limmited choice of software to run on a MAC and the high prices for it?
Subject says it all...
Pretty clear to me; keep it closed source!
Security through Obscurity
is the signature of M$, the US government is infiltrated by M$ and this proposal shows how far they've gotten.
Less than over 65,000 known bugs is acceptable.
If you want to apply 'reputed' M$ OS standards
They force you to change over to Outlook. And unless you get it working under WINE this means you've got to switch to M$ Windows as well. There is only one description: M$ = A Kartel striving to become a Monopoly.
And the logical action is anti-trust legislation.
They (M$) sure shows they trust the present governement......
It's hard to tell where the figure 250M DM comes from.
Indeed not much considering the size of the German federal governement.
But I'm afraid you mean it's a lot for just 5000 computers
In that case: read the article again!
Nice idea, but it still requires the culling of the large monopolies.
If the presently proposed Publisher-owned shops would be allowed there's hardly any chance independends would get a hold of needed merchandise.
Oops, you're comparing the uncomparable; the CD player that became cheaper is mainly a product and the CD (music) you play on it is largely a service
These two have a vastly different basis for valuation in our economy, just look at the average wages (labour is a service) over those same years.
Bad examples; it's more along the lines of building a new roof or foundation on/under your house, it makes the house better but only when you retain the rest of the house.
Or like putting new tires on your car, don't sell the rest of the car.....
That's excatly what is happening, you can only install a M$ OS upgrade over a previous version.
Trying to install an upgrade on a clean disk just does not work!
Sorry, but it's the Brits and Americans that for some unfathomable reason dropped the decimal comma for the point.
I.e. a (very) few foreign cultures do NOT use the comma as decimal.
You missed the point: the issue is not pirated software but obsolete software (OS). Of course buying an upgrade only makes the licence complete when you have both the original and the upgrade licence.
But there are people that buy a full install of XP and there is no reason why you would not be allowed to sell off the now redundant W'3.1-'95,'98 or ME licence.
Be aware that the limitation of/connection to original equipment that M$ sees in it's OEM licences does usually not uphold outside of the US.
In '95 an E-mail exchange with a competitor was found out.
The company claimed he agreed on hiring he could only use company supplied equipment for company business, the case went through the various courts.
The result centers around the European Directive on Fundamental Human Rights. According to the court this was breached when the company accessed a folder called "Private" on his computer and found the E-mail with a competitor. The fact that the E-mail did not cover the subject/nature of the guy's employment was also considered.
The court ruled the fundamental freedom of this individual of higher value than the agreament about business-only use of the computer.
The best part of it is that although Jurisprudence does not usually carry weight across borders, the reference to the European Directive is possibly usefull to for example Brits that have little to no protection under national law.
And had my digital camera + laptop running the results as a slidshow.
People would come up and say "I'd like this pic" and I'd put them as E-mail in the Out Box.
This morning they found them in their In Box.
Cost: Next to nothing. ;-).
Quality: Excelent.
Bonus 1: Any number of copies.
Bonus 2: You can edit out the undesirables
Because in the UK these camera's can be and are installed not just by the police.
And there is NO authority overseeing the use (or abuse) of the tapes (though recently there has been some progess).
Such a system needs a very tight set of laws and regulations (also for the police) before it can be used to the benefit of all without getting into a '1984' situation.
As one of the causes for the troubles you've witnessed you should consider the social-economic situation of the UK compared with the rest of Europe.
Some examples: one of the largest numbers of people in poverty, sub-standard health care and filth everywhere.
Of course, you don't get much international telemarketing, so there are going to be a few issues there that will need resolution.
Hmm, in my 6+ years on the net I've hardly seen Dutch spam, nearly all of it is from the USofA or the UK promoting stupid national-only schemes.
And in The Netherlands.
Though I'm not absolutely sure about the latest licences, courts have in the past upheld that the licence in effect is nothing more than the right of the owner to run / use a single copy of the software at your own discretion.
Anything else was considered frivolous.
This means for instance that when you've bought a computer with a Dutch version of Windows there is nothing stopping you replacing it with a copied / borrowed English version. Because you do own a licence to run Windows.
And the courts have clearly seen no tangible difference between the various language versions.
Well, what about if they'd just charge a decent amount for an upgrade, M$ upgrades are building on existing technologie. It's not like they re-invent the OS with every release, so how can an upgrade be so expensive....
Wrong, let's take a kit-car like the Lous 7, anyone with determination can buy the individual bits, put it together and sell it. No legal problems as long as you don't claim it to be a Lotus, you can even without problems claim it's a copy/replica of a Lotus.
Is there a Dutchman or Belgian in the crew?
'cause for a Dutchman T'Pol sounds like 'Tepel' what means 'Nipple' in English...
Not relevant in a law suit, the point is that they don't comply with the standard as required for labeling your product a 'Compact Disk'(tm).
Philips as the inventor holds the licences. How long before they'll sue?
Maybe we have to start writing them a few questions/suggestions.
It pisses me off!
How do you expect such figures to be published without a watchdog???