Most of the Ukrainian assertions claim that Russia was more directly involved
Surprise!
To be clear I'm not sure who did it and not taking sides, but I also don't believe a single shred of evidence the Ukraine brings against Russia, and I don't believe a single shred of evidence that Russian brings against the Ukraine.
I'm sure more people have know what an "alexa device" is but we still managed to explain that.
If you actually were a long term reader of Slashdot you'll realise our editors are nothing by AI scripts. Though not a good one trained by Google, but rather whatever the overlords put together in PHP on the weekend and trained by watching Idiocracy on repeat.:-)
I HATE cold weather. I would say this would be a better climate to live in.
The climate we live in isn't in question. The industry and civilisations we have built around assumptions on climate in specific areas are. No one is complaining that it may be a few degrees warmer outside. They are complaining that they need to relocate crops, that cities will flood, and that areas which were used to collect water may not receive any.
A minor distinction. If the police suddenly become inherently dangerous simply because they get a call to go somewhere for some unconfirmed situation, it really is as bad as saying "cops show up is inherently dangerous".
every interaction could kill you so be hyper vigilant
You missed the other side of the coin. American police see every interaction as a potential threat to their life so they approach it as such. Now every criminal sees every interaction with American police as something which could kill and you end up with a vicious spiral of both parties in fear which is never a good headspace to be in when a situation needs to be de-escallated.
Reminds me of a show I saw in a waiting room where a police officer from the USA spent a few days with a police officer from... a nordic country... can't remember which one, and they compared what they would do in various real scenarios.
At one point they were called to a situation where a guy was threatening people with a gun. They asked the American what he would do: "Grab my gun, approach from the corner of the building where he had coverage and a clear shot, and then try to talk him down or if he thinks it's not working try and take a shot."
The...nordic... police officer was speechless and proceeded to go out unarmed and walk over to the guy with the gun, spent about 15min talking him down after which he arrested him once the guy handed over his weapon. When the American asked why he didn't take a gun the answer was: "Too much paperwork if I have to take the gun out of the glovebox."
The way you approach a situation can drastically change a situation. American police may find themselves in a far safer line of work if they didn't present themselves as cold blooded killers to every scenario where they are deployed.
Why? Was there a time based bomb on site? In the scenario you described the big step one is take your time and slow the situation right down. You know,.... so you don't make any rash decisions. Normal hostage situations elsewhere in the world can take many hours, so why does this one require going in guns blazing?
But criminal standards are higher and I completely understand why the police had to act in the manner they did.
Congratulations, you normalised it and now you are part of the problem. Hope you feel good about yourself and that you don't get shot for seeing a police officer.
completely bears the responsibility of the victim's death
Only in your weird world. In the normal western world there is plenty of blame to go around. In the normal western world the police officer would be stood down pending investigation for firing his weapon in this situation, regardless of the fact that someone got injured / killed.
We can't start every article with: "In the beginning there was nothing and then bang" followed by a complete history of the known universe, so writers make some assumptions. Those assumptions include:
a) Knowing a very real and well known and widely publicised problem plaguing the country the site is hosted in. b) Assume that in general people are somewhat up to date with recent events. c) Assume at the very least that a reader is a return customer and therefore is aware, of the many times we have discussed this case, along with severalother such cases.
Given the situation and looking at it from the perspective of Wichita's police, I don't think they acted inappropriately.
By having normalised excessive response to these kinds of threats, you are part of the problem. This shit isn't accepted anywhere else in the western world.
Part of policing is to assess the threat, not listen to some dispatcher who said there may be a situation that was called in by some source, but actually go there and assess the threat.
There was once a time where America pulling out of a deal, trade talk, summit, etc was a deathspell. The world looked to America for everything. A very very interesting change has happened in the past 2 years.
America pulls out of the Paris Agreement. Rather than killing it off, it spurred the last 2 remaining countries to join. America pulls out of the TPP, and agreement it lead and created. This killed the agreement. It can't be rattified without the USA.... Except all the parties just copied and pasted all the bits not requiring the USA and the newly named CPTPP lives on. America pulls out of its agreement with Iran, an agreement it was instrumental in creating. The world collectively shrugged with all parties continuing to abide by the agreement.
A lot of people are talking about how America is being laughed at, whereas the reality appears far worse than that.
It *used* to be dire predictions getting ever closer and more dire, but that didn't seem to work, so now they're transitioning to monetary measures.
Errr no. The dire predictions are still dire. The only difference is where the research is being put into now that people are attempting to cost up measures to prevent us from royally screwing things up any further.
Or maybe you prefer us to not research the economics and go back to researching climate change,... because you know... is it even real? Is the science even "settled"?
our expectation is that it is NOT paying attention when we are not actively using the device
You haven't been paying attention to any marketing materials for computers lately have you... hell the only reason I don't expect multiple devices to respond to me in unison is because they have different names.
At least Alexa and Google are innocent. Microsoft released Windows 10 and not a few months later we found out that Cortana actually went full evil as the antagonist in Halo 5. Whichever marketing flunky came up with that should probably leave it off his LinkedIn profile.
Hmm must be rare. There's petty few cases where ISPs allow these to be bypassed by a DNS. Just a few hundred km north and I'm the proud owner of a VPN here for that very reason. Likewise in the UK, Germany, France, and Australia (to say nothing of China) where I've experienced various blocks that don't succumb to simply changing the DNS... Speaking of who uses their ISP's DNS server anyway. That's madness!
Tone deaf to whom? The potential users of the system? Or the legal system? I see this as quite a clever move in defence of potential lawsuits.
"Your honour, Facebook was complicit in the distribution of my nudes to my parents!" "Your honour, I would direct you to the formal system we have in place to prevent exactly this kind of thing from happening which the prosecuting party voluntarily did not use".
Which made me wonder: Is that camera just for recording a view from the driver's seat? Or is it what the auto-driving software is using for vision.
A lot of people wonder. Sensible people don't leave that conspiracy theory crap out of the "stupid ideas" section of their brain. Look at the feed, if that was being used to drive then the car wouldn't have hit the pedestrian, it would have run off the road and been wrapped around a tree.
Now in the mean time does it seem likely that Uber would load a metric shitton of gear on the roof racks of their cars and then use a grainy cabin cam to do the driving?
If the former, why the HELL would you log, for your engineering analysis, what a separate camera sees but not what the CAR sees?
What makes you think in any way shape or form that they didn't log / record what the car itself saw? And if it's because you say they haven't shown it, what makes you think that anyone (not even company, but any person) would share information with the public which is obviously destined for legal hold?
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Most of the Ukrainian assertions claim that Russia was more directly involved
Surprise!
To be clear I'm not sure who did it and not taking sides, but I also don't believe a single shred of evidence the Ukraine brings against Russia, and I don't believe a single shred of evidence that Russian brings against the Ukraine.
Ask us how!
Does it have anything to do with leaving a 1 star review?
Then again the pedestrian not wearing dark clothes or having reflectors on the bike
Oooh do you have one of those fancy new colour LIDARs?
Now if you could get together 50million like minded friends we would have a market.
It's just a phone
Careful. You may not be outraged, but you certainly will outrage others with that attitude.
Hmmm turns out maturity doesn't come with age. Who knew.
I'm sure more people have know what an "alexa device" is but we still managed to explain that.
If you actually were a long term reader of Slashdot you'll realise our editors are nothing by AI scripts. Though not a good one trained by Google, but rather whatever the overlords put together in PHP on the weekend and trained by watching Idiocracy on repeat. :-)
I HATE cold weather. I would say this would be a better climate to live in.
The climate we live in isn't in question. The industry and civilisations we have built around assumptions on climate in specific areas are. No one is complaining that it may be a few degrees warmer outside. They are complaining that they need to relocate crops, that cities will flood, and that areas which were used to collect water may not receive any.
evidence has to be reviewed based on what the officer knew at the time of the shooting
So if you know nothing, have proved nothing, and just shoot away you're good to go.
A minor distinction. If the police suddenly become inherently dangerous simply because they get a call to go somewhere for some unconfirmed situation, it really is as bad as saying "cops show up is inherently dangerous".
Do you stand there and get shot?
I'm going to go with "Stand there and NOT get shot". This is neither the wild west, nor any other Clint Eastwood film.
every interaction could kill you so be hyper vigilant
You missed the other side of the coin. American police see every interaction as a potential threat to their life so they approach it as such. Now every criminal sees every interaction with American police as something which could kill and you end up with a vicious spiral of both parties in fear which is never a good headspace to be in when a situation needs to be de-escallated.
Reminds me of a show I saw in a waiting room where a police officer from the USA spent a few days with a police officer from ... a nordic country ... can't remember which one, and they compared what they would do in various real scenarios.
At one point they were called to a situation where a guy was threatening people with a gun. They asked the American what he would do: "Grab my gun, approach from the corner of the building where he had coverage and a clear shot, and then try to talk him down or if he thinks it's not working try and take a shot."
The ...nordic... police officer was speechless and proceeded to go out unarmed and walk over to the guy with the gun, spent about 15min talking him down after which he arrested him once the guy handed over his weapon. When the American asked why he didn't take a gun the answer was: "Too much paperwork if I have to take the gun out of the glovebox."
The way you approach a situation can drastically change a situation. American police may find themselves in a far safer line of work if they didn't present themselves as cold blooded killers to every scenario where they are deployed.
they didn't have the luxury to take their time
Why? Was there a time based bomb on site? In the scenario you described the big step one is take your time and slow the situation right down. You know, .... so you don't make any rash decisions. Normal hostage situations elsewhere in the world can take many hours, so why does this one require going in guns blazing?
But criminal standards are higher and I completely understand why the police had to act in the manner they did.
Congratulations, you normalised it and now you are part of the problem. Hope you feel good about yourself and that you don't get shot for seeing a police officer.
completely bears the responsibility of the victim's death
Only in your weird world. In the normal western world there is plenty of blame to go around. In the normal western world the police officer would be stood down pending investigation for firing his weapon in this situation, regardless of the fact that someone got injured / killed.
or what swatting is.
We can't start every article with: "In the beginning there was nothing and then bang" followed by a complete history of the known universe, so writers make some assumptions. Those assumptions include:
a) Knowing a very real and well known and widely publicised problem plaguing the country the site is hosted in.
b) Assume that in general people are somewhat up to date with recent events.
c) Assume at the very least that a reader is a return customer and therefore is aware, of the many times we have discussed this case, along with several other such cases.
Given the situation and looking at it from the perspective of Wichita's police, I don't think they acted inappropriately.
By having normalised excessive response to these kinds of threats, you are part of the problem. This shit isn't accepted anywhere else in the western world.
Part of policing is to assess the threat, not listen to some dispatcher who said there may be a situation that was called in by some source, but actually go there and assess the threat.
Shit movie but very relevant to American police and everyone who justifies what happened here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
There was once a time where America pulling out of a deal, trade talk, summit, etc was a deathspell. The world looked to America for everything. A very very interesting change has happened in the past 2 years.
America pulls out of the Paris Agreement. Rather than killing it off, it spurred the last 2 remaining countries to join. ... Except all the parties just copied and pasted all the bits not requiring the USA and the newly named CPTPP lives on.
America pulls out of the TPP, and agreement it lead and created. This killed the agreement. It can't be rattified without the USA.
America pulls out of its agreement with Iran, an agreement it was instrumental in creating. The world collectively shrugged with all parties continuing to abide by the agreement.
A lot of people are talking about how America is being laughed at, whereas the reality appears far worse than that.
Oh wow. You think they destroyed their test facility because of Trump.
Waiter! I'll have 2 of whatever he's having! What do you mean it's not safe to consume that much?
It *used* to be dire predictions getting ever closer and more dire, but that didn't seem to work, so now they're transitioning to monetary measures.
Errr no. The dire predictions are still dire. The only difference is where the research is being put into now that people are attempting to cost up measures to prevent us from royally screwing things up any further.
Or maybe you prefer us to not research the economics and go back to researching climate change, ... because you know... is it even real? Is the science even "settled"?
conversation was eavesdropped
Eavesdropping means someone is secretly listening. Just how is it you think Alexa works?
our expectation is that it is NOT paying attention when we are not actively using the device
You haven't been paying attention to any marketing materials for computers lately have you... hell the only reason I don't expect multiple devices to respond to me in unison is because they have different names.
At least Alexa and Google are innocent. Microsoft released Windows 10 and not a few months later we found out that Cortana actually went full evil as the antagonist in Halo 5. Whichever marketing flunky came up with that should probably leave it off his LinkedIn profile.
Hmm must be rare. There's petty few cases where ISPs allow these to be bypassed by a DNS. Just a few hundred km north and I'm the proud owner of a VPN here for that very reason. Likewise in the UK, Germany, France, and Australia (to say nothing of China) where I've experienced various blocks that don't succumb to simply changing the DNS... Speaking of who uses their ISP's DNS server anyway. That's madness!
I'm kind of shocked how tone deaf this is.
Tone deaf to whom? The potential users of the system? Or the legal system? I see this as quite a clever move in defence of potential lawsuits.
"Your honour, Facebook was complicit in the distribution of my nudes to my parents!"
"Your honour, I would direct you to the formal system we have in place to prevent exactly this kind of thing from happening which the prosecuting party voluntarily did not use".
What's Elon thinking here?
That people would get the joke. Evidently he's wrong.
Which made me wonder: Is that camera just for recording a view from the driver's seat? Or is it what the auto-driving software is using for vision.
A lot of people wonder. Sensible people don't leave that conspiracy theory crap out of the "stupid ideas" section of their brain. Look at the feed, if that was being used to drive then the car wouldn't have hit the pedestrian, it would have run off the road and been wrapped around a tree.
Now in the mean time does it seem likely that Uber would load a metric shitton of gear on the roof racks of their cars and then use a grainy cabin cam to do the driving?
If the former, why the HELL would you log, for your engineering analysis, what a separate camera sees but not what the CAR sees?
What makes you think in any way shape or form that they didn't log / record what the car itself saw? And if it's because you say they haven't shown it, what makes you think that anyone (not even company, but any person) would share information with the public which is obviously destined for legal hold?