but I wish that it had been kept the same, but merely updated
And you think the inclusion of native HTML5 support including all the things that go with it (ability to play multi-media) etc will mean it still loads in milliseconds?
I agreed with you up until the last line. Essentially all modern EVs use waveform sculpting.
Isn't that what I said? It's used where weight and efficiency is critical (e.g. EVs).
By wider industry I meant actual industry, where pumps will run continuously for 8 years at a time and any fault needs to be repairable in a matter of hours. In those cases size and efficiency never trump repairability or easy maintenance.
So exactly what I said. Over-engineering leads to two things: Cost and use of built-like-a-brick-shithouse materials (weight).
There is literally nothing appealing about it other than looks. A cheap plastic $30 jobby will last you 10 years easy. There's nothing to be gained by Dyson's engineering here.
It's interesting that you say "shit it's fast". Looking at the video posted by Mozilla it would appear to actually be slower than Chrome in half the cases. HOWEVER.... it seems to load content more on a first come first shown basis. Chrome seems to wait till it has loaded nearly everything to display it on the screen. Firefox appears to put the content up as it gets it.
Maybe that makes it perceptibly faster, but in terms of having a usable page it's nothing to write home about.... at least compared to other browsers, compared to itself it has taken a huge leap forward.
If you want fast startup just start notepad.exe. It starts up blazingly fast and will load modern web pages just as well as Netscape 3 would.
I would gladly give back whatever extra functionality we are getting
No you wouldn't. Boiling frog principle, you don't actually know what functionality you have because the transition and adoption of a dynamic and interactive version of the web that does more than just follow a few links via clicking and blink some text has been so slow that you barely noticed what has changed.
By the way for shits and giggles I did it. I loaded Netscape 3.0 and typed in www.slashdot.org
"Netscape and this server cannot communicate securely because they have no common encryption algorithm(s)"
Ok no problem let's try soylent: "Connection reset by peer"
www.google.com: A 9 item ordered list on the left unclickable along with the error: "too many javascript errors occurred" Then 10 popups with errors, two of which I couldn't acknowledge.
Anyway I've had it, going back to firefox. Nope can't communicate with that server either.
But just for giggles. cnn.com Well that just tries to download text, and 10 popups with errors followed by "too many errors".
What's to laugh about? Gotta get the IKEA purchase home somehow. Not everyone uses their towball on their massive truck to tow an only slightly smaller truck. Some people just use it to mount their bicycles. One of my friends has a towable BBQ and the only reason he has a towball is to take his BBQ to the beach.
I remember an interview with Jack Dorsey talking about how amazing it is imposing a 140 character limit in an age where verbal diarrhoea is a real problem. He said that when people have a limit it causes them to think carefully about what they say and how to get a message across, and that this was one of the defining features of Twitter that separated it from any other blog or platform for people to speak.
He then justified this as why they won't increase the character limit. I think he said that in 2010.... and then 2012... 2014,.. 2016
As just another old guy you forgot to add 4) Get off my lawn.
But in all seriousness, you don't need Twitter. Anything "important" happens on twitter you can read the tweet on your local news station, or even slashdot summaries.
You only need an account if you suffer from Tourettes.
Don't you guys have a tax on media that effectively paid the rights holders for your now perfectly legitimate practice of copying things? I thought pirates couldn't exist in Canada... without boarding ships, raping, pillaging and making the crew walk the plank.
Oh it gets better. The Dyson hairdryer is identical to a cheap $30 one in every metric, except for cost and... weight. So now your wife can get a sore arm while she looks good with her expensive toy.
I'm not joking it was actually very impressive, the way the power ramped up using a digital function was amazing.
Dyson has a long history of taken existing and well known concepts and putting them in a different box. These examples are just the latest. Their vacuum is nothing more than taking Dyson's own off the shelf shop vac, and then trial and erroring his way to make it smaller because he didn't understand the calculations developed 40 years earlier. The jet drier... Just a Mitsubishi version that looks a bit better. The air multiplier fan? Toshiba's patent with a slightly smaller motor (20 years after Toshiba stopped making them) so it doesn't have as big a base. Their hair drier? All looks with the airmultiplier concept. 10x the price of a traditional one, same airflow, same heating, but much heavier.
Waveform sculpting for efficient motor driving is second year university level stuff, and any idiot can show you cool pictures on an oscilloscope. What it does result in is fantastically small motor designs that are almost impossible to repair, which is one of the reason why waveform sculpting has never left the "it needs to be as small as possible" realm and moved into wider industry.
That's not what you said. What you said was: "Trump says, "Wait, their all black & spanish? And that's the end of that."
Maybe if you had an account and put a name to what you said you could provide some citation that "Nobody believed you" because quite frankly your view has a lot of support on Slashdot.
I regularly have to look at the highlander's buttons on the radio because there are SO many.
Your inability to learn your car's user interface or remember the relative position of the buttons does not mean that normal functioning people are better off with an interface that specifically prohibits doing so.
You can't control your HVAC without taking your eyes off the road and you have buttons? WTF is wrong with you?
If the person who uses the Tesla 3 to tow is on Slashdot, could you please message me? I need to know what the fuck you're thinking.
As a matter of interest, why? What's wrong with towing something on a small car? People all over Europe tow things just fine in their small 2 seater buzboxes. What would be worse about having a metric fukton of torque behind it?
I have a towball on my Clio which is probably smaller than any car sold in the USA, and smaller than a Model 3. Hell one of the guys I work with has a towball on his Renault Twingo. I've also seen towballs on Smart cars, and on VW UP!s.
Not every towball is dragging a 3T trailer behind it.
that clearly wasn't what they were talking about here
It may not have been. I'm not discussing the specific bug, I'm discussing the dangerous idea that code can't be at fault when associated hardware isn't present. That is precisely how you end up in this kind of situation.
If you had something better to support your conclusion then you should really have opened with that.
The code is obviously there, but just as obvious is the fact it could not run.
Exactly the kind of problem that can result in battery usage issues.
There is literally nothing that could allow any FaceID code to run for more than a nanosecond.
So I take it you've seen the code in detail. You know how it checks for the presence, you know what fallback strategies it has? Clearly any delays and timeout are set at 1 nanosecond based on your knowledge. You're full of assumptions on the code, how it operates, and what it does in the presence of missing hardware.
The MOST COMMON case currently and in testing is/was hardware without that device
So now you're the code tester are you? The "most common" case? Really? Fuck iOS11 is going to be a disaster if the "most common" testing scenario was not running features.
Look you're not thinking before replying. The point is that test cases are missed all the time, especially test cases for when code is not supposed to run. You call this an edge case? I see real evidence of this happening constantly. The world is full of bugs, lockups, slowdowns, timeouts, and similar cases that cause endless problems to end users in a wide variety of hardware, be it your phone, desktop computer, or the damn microwave.
Also calling the keyboard a device ships with and specifically had support written and listed as a backwards compatible device "accidental" really just shows how far detached from reality you are.
*We* will. And the vast majority of users won't care and will continue to use whatever their computer came with. That's my point. Those who care have moved on or are in the process of moving on. Yet the Windows market share figures remain incredibly resilient to change.
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but I wish that it had been kept the same, but merely updated
And you think the inclusion of native HTML5 support including all the things that go with it (ability to play multi-media) etc will mean it still loads in milliseconds?
I agreed with you up until the last line. Essentially all modern EVs use waveform sculpting.
Isn't that what I said? It's used where weight and efficiency is critical (e.g. EVs).
By wider industry I meant actual industry, where pumps will run continuously for 8 years at a time and any fault needs to be repairable in a matter of hours. In those cases size and efficiency never trump repairability or easy maintenance.
I had worked for that employer for 9 years and never signed any kind of contract
So you're an illegal undocumented employee now? Shit this keeps getting better.
So exactly what I said. Over-engineering leads to two things: Cost and use of built-like-a-brick-shithouse materials (weight).
There is literally nothing appealing about it other than looks. A cheap plastic $30 jobby will last you 10 years easy. There's nothing to be gained by Dyson's engineering here.
It's interesting that you say "shit it's fast". Looking at the video posted by Mozilla it would appear to actually be slower than Chrome in half the cases. HOWEVER.... it seems to load content more on a first come first shown basis. Chrome seems to wait till it has loaded nearly everything to display it on the screen. Firefox appears to put the content up as it gets it.
Maybe that makes it perceptibly faster, but in terms of having a usable page it's nothing to write home about.... at least compared to other browsers, compared to itself it has taken a huge leap forward.
Web developers put tons crap with their webpages that make it impossible to use them with a Netscape 3 era browser
Yeah like SSL.
Just for fun I actually did it. I wanted to try posting on Slashdot but it didn't even get as far as loading javascript.
If one were to run Netscape 3 on today's laptop,
If you want fast startup just start notepad.exe. It starts up blazingly fast and will load modern web pages just as well as Netscape 3 would.
I would gladly give back whatever extra functionality we are getting
No you wouldn't. Boiling frog principle, you don't actually know what functionality you have because the transition and adoption of a dynamic and interactive version of the web that does more than just follow a few links via clicking and blink some text has been so slow that you barely noticed what has changed.
By the way for shits and giggles I did it. I loaded Netscape 3.0 and typed in www.slashdot.org
"Netscape and this server cannot communicate securely because they have no common encryption algorithm(s)"
Ok no problem let's try soylent:
"Connection reset by peer"
www.google.com:
A 9 item ordered list on the left unclickable along with the error: "too many javascript errors occurred"
Then 10 popups with errors, two of which I couldn't acknowledge.
Anyway I've had it, going back to firefox. Nope can't communicate with that server either.
But just for giggles. cnn.com
Well that just tries to download text, and 10 popups with errors followed by "too many errors".
Yeah go ahead run Netscape 3.0 on today's laptop. You can download it here:
http://www.oldversion.com/wind...
What's to laugh about? Gotta get the IKEA purchase home somehow. Not everyone uses their towball on their massive truck to tow an only slightly smaller truck. Some people just use it to mount their bicycles. One of my friends has a towable BBQ and the only reason he has a towball is to take his BBQ to the beach.
for example, sold my information to a bank and automatically opened an account for me
Well if he actually did that without your permission you could get quite rich suing him. But my guess is you gave him that permission.
I remember an interview with Jack Dorsey talking about how amazing it is imposing a 140 character limit in an age where verbal diarrhoea is a real problem. He said that when people have a limit it causes them to think carefully about what they say and how to get a message across, and that this was one of the defining features of Twitter that separated it from any other blog or platform for people to speak.
He then justified this as why they won't increase the character limit. I think he said that in 2010. ... and then 2012... 2014,.. 2016
Yeah good work mate.
As just another old guy you forgot to add 4) Get off my lawn.
But in all seriousness, you don't need Twitter. Anything "important" happens on twitter you can read the tweet on your local news station, or even slashdot summaries.
You only need an account if you suffer from Tourettes.
Don't you guys have a tax on media that effectively paid the rights holders for your now perfectly legitimate practice of copying things? I thought pirates couldn't exist in Canada... without boarding ships, raping, pillaging and making the crew walk the plank.
Oh it gets better. The Dyson hairdryer is identical to a cheap $30 one in every metric, except for cost and ... weight. So now your wife can get a sore arm while she looks good with her expensive toy.
I'm not joking it was actually very impressive, the way the power ramped up using a digital function was amazing.
Dyson has a long history of taken existing and well known concepts and putting them in a different box. These examples are just the latest. Their vacuum is nothing more than taking Dyson's own off the shelf shop vac, and then trial and erroring his way to make it smaller because he didn't understand the calculations developed 40 years earlier. The jet drier... Just a Mitsubishi version that looks a bit better. The air multiplier fan? Toshiba's patent with a slightly smaller motor (20 years after Toshiba stopped making them) so it doesn't have as big a base. Their hair drier? All looks with the airmultiplier concept. 10x the price of a traditional one, same airflow, same heating, but much heavier.
Waveform sculpting for efficient motor driving is second year university level stuff, and any idiot can show you cool pictures on an oscilloscope. What it does result in is fantastically small motor designs that are almost impossible to repair, which is one of the reason why waveform sculpting has never left the "it needs to be as small as possible" realm and moved into wider industry.
When I said ham radio was still important
That's not what you said. What you said was: "Trump says, "Wait, their all black & spanish? And that's the end of that."
Maybe if you had an account and put a name to what you said you could provide some citation that "Nobody believed you" because quite frankly your view has a lot of support on Slashdot.
No the poster mentioned that you are the product because you didn't pay for something, which is absurd.
Anyone downloading without using a VPN client is risking a $3,000 fine and possible loss of their internet connection.
Under the rule of which draconian dictator?
I regularly have to look at the highlander's buttons on the radio because there are SO many.
Your inability to learn your car's user interface or remember the relative position of the buttons does not mean that normal functioning people are better off with an interface that specifically prohibits doing so.
You can't control your HVAC without taking your eyes off the road and you have buttons? WTF is wrong with you?
please buy an SUV.
Why? There are many sedans with far more power than small SUVs. Hell I'll wager the Model 3 has more torque than most smaller SUVs.
If the person who uses the Tesla 3 to tow is on Slashdot, could you please message me? I need to know what the fuck you're thinking.
As a matter of interest, why? What's wrong with towing something on a small car? People all over Europe tow things just fine in their small 2 seater buzboxes. What would be worse about having a metric fukton of torque behind it?
I have a towball on my Clio which is probably smaller than any car sold in the USA, and smaller than a Model 3. Hell one of the guys I work with has a towball on his Renault Twingo. I've also seen towballs on Smart cars, and on VW UP!s.
Not every towball is dragging a 3T trailer behind it.
Lucky I guess.
Or maybe not. After all we all know ($VERSION_OF_WINDOWS_BEING_TALKED_ABOUT - 1) was the last truly usable one. :-)
Not American. That among other things means I can see things without my red white and blue filter applied.
Enjoy your 4th amendment free zones that the government deemed you don't deserve anymore.
that clearly wasn't what they were talking about here
It may not have been. I'm not discussing the specific bug, I'm discussing the dangerous idea that code can't be at fault when associated hardware isn't present. That is precisely how you end up in this kind of situation.
If you had something better to support your conclusion then you should really have opened with that.
The code is obviously there, but just as obvious is the fact it could not run.
Exactly the kind of problem that can result in battery usage issues.
There is literally nothing that could allow any FaceID code to run for more than a nanosecond.
So I take it you've seen the code in detail. You know how it checks for the presence, you know what fallback strategies it has? Clearly any delays and timeout are set at 1 nanosecond based on your knowledge. You're full of assumptions on the code, how it operates, and what it does in the presence of missing hardware.
The MOST COMMON case currently and in testing is/was hardware without that device
So now you're the code tester are you? The "most common" case? Really? Fuck iOS11 is going to be a disaster if the "most common" testing scenario was not running features.
Look you're not thinking before replying. The point is that test cases are missed all the time, especially test cases for when code is not supposed to run. You call this an edge case? I see real evidence of this happening constantly. The world is full of bugs, lockups, slowdowns, timeouts, and similar cases that cause endless problems to end users in a wide variety of hardware, be it your phone, desktop computer, or the damn microwave.
Also calling the keyboard a device ships with and specifically had support written and listed as a backwards compatible device "accidental" really just shows how far detached from reality you are.
*We* will. And the vast majority of users won't care and will continue to use whatever their computer came with. That's my point. Those who care have moved on or are in the process of moving on. Yet the Windows market share figures remain incredibly resilient to change.