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Star Trek: Discovery Nearly Cracks Pirate Bay's Top 10 In Less Than 24 Hours (ew.com)
Yesterday was the season premiere of the first new Star Trek TV series in 12 years. While the first episode aired on the CBS broadcast network Sunday night, the second episode -- and all the rest to come -- was made available exclusively on the CBS All Access streaming service for $6 a month. Naturally, this upset Trekkies and led many of them to find alternative methods to watch the show. EW reports that Star Trek: Discovery "is on the verge of cracking Pirate Bay's Top 10 most illegally downloaded shows in less than 24 hours." From the report: The Discovery pilot is currently at No. 11 on the list (apparently at No. 15 just a few hours ago), the pilot is up there with the likes of HBO's Game of Thrones, Adult Swim's Rick and Morty and, for some reason, TNT's The Last Ship. The show's second episode is at No. 17, which is a tad surprising as that was the one that wasn't free. Ever since the distribution plan was first announced fans have resisted with some vehemence the idea of paying for "yet another streaming service just to watch a single show" (there's more than one show on All Access, CBS is quick to point out, and then a debate over the relative merits of NCIS and MacGyver repeats ensues).
that might be a boy since it has the name Michael, but sometimes doesn't quite seem male enough to be a male, bothered me more than paying to stream it. What was it?
The first ep everyone wanted to see, especially the rest of the world outside the US where it wasn't broadcasted. So yes highly anticipated show, everyone wants to see it, not really surprising.
However when people download/watch ep1 but don't care enough to download ep2 too which is available the same way, it means the show didn't interest people enough for a 2nd simple download.
Then how many people will actually pay for the priviledge of watching fürther down the line? In this day and age, you can't have a successful show without lots of downloaders as well.
But is it any good ?
It had DRM. Media experts at Hollywood specifically states this would not happen and made sure we passed the DMCA to make not using DRM illegal. This just can't be true.
Maybe just maybe it is because Chrome and Edge do not support HTML 5 DRM EME yet? Yeah, that is it. We need to all give up our freedoms ASAP to protect all the lawyers in Hollywood. Please think of the lawyers!
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I wonder if it's because episode 2 was only on their shitty spyware streaming paid service with ads...
And it turns out it's stupid meh.
Fire the first officer at that unknown object!
Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages. Not clear what is horrible about sub'ing the producers of content one watches at any one moment, and switching those around when one's viewing preferences change. Personally I'm not much of a TV watcher so am not in market for this, but seems strange complaint given the population who does want paid TV content.
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re: the show, can't say it interests me, I am more the sort who wants to see time-line furthered post DS9, rather than re-hash original Trek timeline. And fuck Kirk, Sisko was King.
People who think they want a la carte are working on an assumption that they buy channels on an individual basis at a fixed price, and resell them like coffee beans. If they could get a bundle of this and a bunch of others, for a little more than just one or the other they'd probably leap at it, even if they don't currently pay for any of them.
Not exclusive to CBS All Access in Europe. We get all the episodes on Netflix (a Netflix "Original"; which just means Netflix streaming exclusive in Europe).
Pretty sure CBS is positioning this to be one of the numerous streams you subscribe to on your Apple TV, thereby participating in the "a la carte" ecosystem.
And you are mistaken, Kirk was the Bomb. I mean other than Picard, of course.
I think you underestimate just how much I just dont care.
Oh you don't wanna watch because SJW values are built into star trek since the 60's eh bitch? Then don't watch. Biiiitch
For a show with as much history, visibility and marketing as Star Trek, this seems like a failure. Headline should be rewritten:
Star Trek: Discovery failed to make Pirate Bay top 10
Well I thought it was horrible and had to stop watching after the first 20 minutes or so. This is not star trek, its a generic bang bang scifi aliens michael bay bullcrap. The show lacks any sense of humour and is just dreadfully boring compared to the original series. Its almost like they forgot what made the og star trek great and just tried to do Star Wars.. yawn
On CBS or Pirate Bay? I just watched it on Netflix last night!
This despite efforts by CBS to put the show behind a paywall, use DRM, etc. Honestly, one has to wonder what they were thinking on this one. Nobody that I know who liked Star Trek from years past has told me that they were going to sign up for CBS pay streaming just to watch Star Trek Discovery and this from serious long time fans of the franchise. Now understand also that despite it's geek cred and nerd fandom Star Trek is still a very niche audience compared to say live sports or dancing with the stars or other pop culture reality show trash that appeals slightly to a broad cross section of Americans but which basically makes nobody really happy, sort of like top 40, if you're old enough to remember that, for television. If the nerds and geeks aren't going to buy the show, who do they think their paying audience is going to be? Finally, like all science fiction programming, Star Trek is going to be expensive per episode to produce. In fact, you could probably produce 10 reality programs for the cost of Star Trek Discovery. This has been the doom of just about every science fiction television series ever produced, even if they're popular and successful. Take the original Battlestar Galactica for example. It was the number one show on television for 1978-79 but even if a show is number one, advertisers will only pay so much for the commercial slots and Galactica cost $1 million dollars per episode, which was an insane amount of money for a television program at that time, so it got cancelled anyway. Honestly, I would be surprised if Star Trek Discovery makes it past the first season if they stick to their guns on the paywall strategy and even if they cave on that it will be hard for them to duplicate the long running popularity of Game of Thrones, which has much broader appeal, with a niche franchise like Star Trek.
I'd say at least part of it has to do with CBS being primarily a broadcast network. CBS All Access is $6 with ads, $10 without ads, and while that's less than HBO, you're not exactly getting HBO-quality content. And they only have one flagship show.
Now if it were some other basic cable channel with decent content (well, relative to the vast wasteland of cable programming) like AMC or SyFy, being able to shell out $6 a month (with ads) and not pay for the rest of the crap on cable, I'd totally jump on that. But alas they're firmly in the you-must-be-subscribed-to-cable camp.
Also, Netflix and Hulu set a new standard for bundling bang-for-the-buck. It probably won't last, hence their push for original content, but $12 a month for either service gets you a lot more than whatever meager a la carte offerings the cable company has.
Where I am in Africa streaming isn't an option since the connection is too slow and too expensive. I think there is no option to download a HVEC 720p version of the show- at least they won't accept my money to do it.
The reasons to pirate are:
-DRM prevents playback on many devices and can stop working at any time.
-Can't download in a modern format, streaming isn't economical everywhere
-Regional unavailability
-Not available for single/season purchase
-Excessive ads
-Excessive price if ever sold a-la-carte
Granted I didn't pirate it last night but if I ever really wanted to watch it it would be just about the only option.
Christ, what the fuck world are we in where Syfylys is a bastion of quality?
A show like this is going to be too hot. Anyone downloading without using a VPN client is risking a $3,000 fine and possible loss of their internet connection.
I like star trek. But I'm simply not going to watch it.
I have too many other forms of entertainment anyway.
If it's good- perhaps it will be available thru less expensive or less risky delivery methods.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
The Orville is a better Star Trek than Star Trek.
"The show's second episode is at No. 17, which is a tad surprising as that was the one that wasn't free".
You're forgetting about the "Rest of the world" -- that massive populous outside of the U.S. of A (which is only about 22 times the population of the USA, so probably doesn't register for you) that don't have CBS (and probably many in the US that also don't have access to CBS), and thus have no other way to view the pilot. It makes sense to me that more people will download the pilot to watch before downloading the 2nd episode, which they may download the next day, or not at all if they didn't enjoy the show.
I think you're not thinking hard enough about what people want and don't want.
People don't want "ala carte" cable with enforced packages, since most of those channels in the package are the same content anyway, sometimes not even time-shifted. If you -really- look into it, it's very little content for a fucking ton of money.
What they wanted was an "all you can eat buffet" that didn't cost an arm and a leg of your newborn child. That's why netflix became popular. Lots of content for whatever the cost is. 10-20 bucks tops. (depending on country, actual package, etc)
That's what they want. However now splitting all that content that was originally just one main source at a low cost, you're now getting dozens of little content providers trying to say "hey hey, 5 bucks per month for me too!"
The enforced packages may be gone, but the content is now gone again as well - unless you want to juggle a few dozen different providers at a total monthly cost that will quickly start soaring into the same price range of those expensive cable packages. And still not have all the content that netflix would have had by itself originally.
Ultimately it wasn't the enforced packages by itself that people are fleeing - it's the insane price demanded for little content. (plus people fleeing the ad infested wastelands, which is probably the bigger reason for me personally.)
It covers the transgender issue far more succinctly than ST:D (how fitting) is going to, as well as actually making it have potentially lasting long term effects for the characters on the show, doubly so if said character ends up having issues with their transgendered identity.
Additionally, while the dialogue is occasionally ackward, it doesn't sound condescending/out of character, which all of the dialogue in ST:D sounded like.
Orville: More in line with Trek production values and content than Trek is.
Also, did anyone else feel like throwing in a 'new' rehash of Sarek, and that Android on the Bridge made ST:D feel more like The Phantom Menace equivalent of a Trek premiere rather than an attempt at new direction for Trek? Nevermind the 'OMG Klingons!', which felt like a rehash of Enterprise, which itself was a reboot of the canon of the series. Have to wonder how Be'lanna Torres is ever going to get born with those fugly ass new Klingons. Or the Worf/Troi and Worf/Dax romance arcs.
Christ, what the fuck world are we in where Syfylys is a bastion of quality?
SyFy - where they cancel things like Firefly ... so they can free up air time for more PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING. Because that's why you watch the science fiction channel. To see fake wrestling.
Starships were not fucking shuttlecraft, and getting a starship close to the ATMOSPHERE, nevermind *IN IT* was a cause for major concern!!!
With the exception of voyager (which they even commented on the dangers of landing a few times.) no pre-Enterprise starships did landings, and until the JJA Star Trek reboot, I am pretty sure no ships were either shown drydocked on, nor launching/landing from earth (except shuttlecraft and voyager.)
While this might seem a minor change to some, this would imply a level of repulsion technology far beyond what Trek normally made allowances for. If this is possible in such a cheap and energy efficient fashion, then there is no reason every planet isn't shown with floating houses all over the place running off impulse or warp cores, which I will note has never been shown on any Trek show, outside of otherr civilizations, or very rarely, research labs operating on planets without a stable land mass to build on.
ST:D. Catch it today!
It's like a mishmash of Star Trek and Galaxy Quest.
First episode felt a bit ackward, especially since the majority of characters talk a lot more casually than Trek characters (more like office co-workers, than military personnel, which I think is intentional.)
But from there on, episode 2 was like a comedic rehash of 'the menagerie' and 3 covered the 'transgendered character arc' in one episode with a lot more coherent and probably less condescending attitude than the new trek show will.
But yeah, at leas the klingons are... *ACTING LIKE FUCKING KLINGONS*... Although this stuff about the Klingon Empire having collapsed for a few hundred years seems like it it might be another bout of retconning, as does the fact that they HAVE CLOAKING DEVICES BEFORE TOS!!!
Pretty sure the whole Cloaking Device arc took place during TOS because it involved a significant technology exchange between the Klingons and Romulans, resulting in the former gaining cloaking technology for deeper raids into federation territory and the romulans warp technology so their ships could move at higher than sublight speeds (the original bird of preys were impulse only 'sub-like' patrol craft, as covered in... S3 of TOS?)
The Federation in this series feels like bungling incompetents in this series, even more than usual.
A la carte would be more like The Pirate Bay. Has everything, pick what you want and pay a reasonable fee for it. Ideally a flat monthly fee but per episode might be okay too, as long as it's not silly prices (hi Amazon, I'm not paying 2.99 per episode of Dexter, maybe 0.10).
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
star trek fans, who are largely geeky and/or nerdy (or is that large geeks and nerds? hmm. maybe a little of both), and know how to internet, don't want to take the 'bait' and subscribe to your money-grab streaming service.. and instead choose to vpn to netflix europe, share torrents of canadian broadcasts, or flat-out hack the drm out of your streams and share those.
color me shocked.
Well they got the fiction part right...
Go watch Orville. More Trek than Trek now.
Go band together some friends, ideally with more of the 'drama nerd/geek' leaning, and start producing your own web series. Bonuses for making it CC BY SA or CC BY NC and providing plot/universe outlines to help others film episodes/series in your universe that don't step on each other while holding to a similiar vision of key aspects of the universe, alien races, technology, conflict, and social issues.
The real solution for old nerds is to feel sad for their lost childhood, while helping build the foundations of their children or grandchildren's childhoods, so that they might in turn share the same shows and stories you did, and only have to choose to go off on their own path because those stories don't reflect their ideals, rather than because those stories are trapped under a 100 year copyright of a shitty corporation that has steadily ruined what the universe was about until it is unrecognizable to its fans.
I've watch Orville, and I thought the pilot felt pretty ackward (the lingo still makes me ugh, since it is supposed to be a military vessel, although between the fraternizing and some of the other 'unprofessional' conduct aboard, I am inclined to believe it is either a more relaxed future than Star Trek is generally envisioned as, or that is part of the comedic intent of the show, similiar more to Galaxy Quest than to Star Trek (which BTW anyone who has see ST but not GQ, really must go and see, since it helps put the uniforms and ship design more into perspective.)
Orville is really a mish-mash of Star Trek and Galaxy Quest, more than a straight copy of Star Trek. And put into that perspective it seems to have a lot less defects than at first glance. I would even daresay the pilot episode is a good stand-in for the ackwardness present in the pilot of TNG (Farpoint Part 1 and 2) with the characters feeling less ackward as the episodes progress (faster I would say than TNG S1/2 took it.)
Was able to watch it on Netflix, so it seems that Netflix secured the streaming for some countries.
getting a starship close to the ATMOSPHERE, nevermind *IN IT* was a cause for major concern!!!
I guess you missed the pre-reboot movie where the Enterprise landed in Golden Gate Park.
It would be hilarious to outshine ST:D with 'The Orville' beating it on Torrent websites.
It is off either Fox or FX, but feels a lot more like Trek TV, and at least as far as the space scenes go, reflects the look of the starscape a lot more than ST:D did with its extremely noisy high production value starscapes (which actually distracted from the ships far more than the more traditional mostly small white stars.)
Additionally, despite its camp factor, it actually did a good episode on forced gender reassignment, gender politics, and general societal attitudes towards 'rocking the boat' all in less than an hour long show. If they can do more episodes like this they will pretty successfully outside ST:D in actual plot if not big name actors and production values (although their CGI quality still seems pretty high quality, unless that caliber has just become that low budget today...)
--- Opens with uninteresting quipping and obscene exposition within a ridiculous context. They had worked together for 7 years but spoke like they just met.
--- How did the 1st officer not notice they were 'drawing' a 30m wide Starfleet symbol in the sand when seconds earlier she's estimating the arrival time of a storm to the second?
--- How did it not get blown away by the wind before they finished?
--- The element of stealthy interference/prime directive stuff ruined entirely by flying the ship dramatically through the clouds.
--- If they could see the symbol from space why'd they have to go down to find the crew members? If they couldn't see it from space so had to go below the clouds how did they end up in the right place?
--- If they could see the crew but couldn't 'get a lock' why not send a shuttle?
--- She states the planet formation around the binary stars will 'be a home for future generations'. It takes at least a million years for a planet to form. You're telling me just 200 years after the election of Donald Trump we're going to be planning millions of years into the future and the colonization of planets that haven't even formed yet? Fuck off.
--- During the ridiculous 'fire the 1st officer at that unknown object section' the computer states the object is 1,000 km away. She'd been flying for a while at that point and traveled the whole distance in under 10 minutes. Even a conservative estimate would require her to be travelling at 10,000 km/h in a space suit. She decelerates to a stop in around a second. That's 70-80 G of force. How?
--- And IF the suit had some 'inertial dampeners' then how was she knocked completely unconscious by the mild bump into the Klingon?
--- The rest of the episode is the Vulcan character crying and acting emotionally, exactly like a Vulcan would.
Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages.
What is replacing cable is certainly not "ala carte" by any means.
Example: I want to view exclusive content on Netflix. So now, I have to pay them for that right while ignoring the other 90% of content they offer that I have zero interest in. Tell me again how that is any different than being forced to pay for 200 cable channels I'll never watch in order to get access to desired content? Rinse and repeat this stupidity for the other dozen "exclusive content" providers, with more on the way.
In the end, consumers will likely end up paying twice as much per month to get the shows they want to watch, bundled with 500 years of crap they'll never watch. Due to death by 1,000 cuts, they'll gladly pay it too. Creative Marketing/Millennial Math will make a $10x12 streaming cost seem like a bargain, while a $120x1 cable cost was a "ripoff".
That was not the Enterprise. It was a captured Klingon Bird of Prey.
Yeah, I wanted to see this show. So the show - the visuals, I mean - was very pretty, the acting was terrible, the plot was positively drowning in angst (not uncommon for shows these days, sigh), the Klingons ridiculously slow to communicate (a warrior race that can only speak at turtle-like rates is pretty damn disadvantaged against humans) and the presentation was wounded mightily by commercials. Plus, what, yet another version of Klingons? Good grief. And the incompetence and lack of discipline on the part of the bridge crew, that was just... well, I'll call it "highly unlikely" in order to keep my language clean.
So we cancelled our CBS all-access subscription and will wait for the show to come out on bluray, assuming that happens (I expect it will.) We might even buy it at that point. Maybe the pain of the problems with these two episodes will have faded from memory by then...
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Discovery is not SF. It's fantasy. Bad fantasy.
No even slightly competent science advisor got anywhere near these plot lines.
Between that, the angst, the rather awesome lack of discipline and order among the bridge crew, the pointless nattering when serious matters needed addressing, and O lord, the inundation with commercials...
Ugh. Terrible. Bye bye, CBS-all-access.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages.
I think you might be misunderstanding the complaint about wanted "a la carte" cable. The precise problem isn't that they have too many channels available to them. The problem is that the price of cable packages are high and rising, and people are saying, "If I'm paying $120 for 500 channels with thousands of shows, but I only watch 20 shows on 4 of those channels. Why can't I save some money by only getting the shows and channels I want?"
So now the content owners are saying, "Oh, you want a la carte, do you? Ok. We'll take those 20 shows that you want, put them each on a different streaming service. We'll charge $10/month for each service, and then in order to justify that price, we'll pack the service with a bunch of other shows that you don't care about. That's what you want, right?"
But no, having a la carte cable wasn't the goal, it was the means. The goal was to save money without losing access to the shows they want to watch. The idea was that maybe they could save money by sacrificing access to the crap they don't want. It doesn't help to give them a new distribution model that finds a different way to bundle crap we don't want, that ends up costing even more when you add it all up.
That was Fox, not SyFy. No less despicable for that. Firefly was the best SF-ish series show I've seen. Ever.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Pretty useless to link articles without linking the actual top10: http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/...
(alternate link may also work: https://thepiratebay.org/top/2... )
It's at the 6th place at the moment.
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"..was made available exclusively on the CBS All Access streaming service for $6 a month"
Perhaps in the USA. I watched it yesterday from Netflix.
HEY I KNOW lets put a exploration vessel into space and have no fucking shuttles so you have ot use space suits
this show had so many issues its funny we actually were laughing at it
I did, and was happy to do it, on the chance that it might have been a good show - it can happen, witness Firefly.
Of course, now that I've seen how dismally bad those two episodes of Discovery were in so many ways, CBS-all-access gets the boot.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Many Federation starships could do atmospheric maneuvers. Both the Intrepid and Nova class could actually land.During the ST:D time, the ship are much more compact as well.
in Germany
Last Ship is a fun show.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Netflix bought the international rights, and kept their word. I live in Europe. Yesterday morning I got a push message from my Netflix app saying it was available. No need for me to download the shows. Besides, on Netflix you can pick Klingon as your subtitle language.
What bothered me most was the ungloved fist-like introduction of the characters. And all of them, without fail, stereotypes. Hello, I'm the nonstandard captain. Hello, I'm the faithful sidekick. Hello, I'm the nonbinary genderfluid ... well, that has to suffice for a character. Hello, I'm the alien.
That's not characters. You could get away with that in a TV show in the 1950s where the Indian was the Indian and the Cowboy was the Cowboy, but PLEASE, TV writing went a wee bit further by now. Who the heck designed these characters? Could they be any more bland and nondescript?
And they don't work together. There is zero chemistry, they don't "work" together. You get the feeling that you are dealing with people who just got thrown into a new project and don't yet know how to treat each other, when they have allegedly been together for years. Well, of course in reality they were, but c'mon, you are allegedly ACTORS! TNG solved this by throwing a new captain into the mix and, as everyone can relate, getting a new boss makes people act cautiously, not knowing what the new head honcho is like, that could have played out well here, too.
I usually sell good advice, this one is free: Can the shit and redo it. Here's how.
First, create a new character, an alien, and make it captain. It's only the logical next step in the development of commanding officers if you want to go down the "inclusive and diverse" road. We've had it all, except an alien captain. Make that race not quite as warlike as the Klingons, but make it a race that has some Klingon traits. The whole warrior code of honor thing comes to mind. And give them a reason to dislike Klingons, which should fit beautifully into the planned setting. It would also allow a lot of very interesting scenes with Saru's character, who such a captain would of course antagonize somehow but at the same time requires him and depends on him at the same time. It would allow some plot angles depicting how we have to work together with people whose personality or whose philosophy we can't stomach. Star Trek has always also been social commentary, and if there's ONE thing right now that we face as a social problem, it's exactly this.
If you really want to go overboard with it, make it a female captain and make the race she's from a very male oriented and dominated species which would again allow a lot of angles that can be explored. Like i said, ST has always been a social commentary on real life issues, so why not? There's plenty of space to develop that race and character, make them associate members of the federation with her leaving her race because she knew she wouldn't get anywhere with her own folks... that alone is enough material for at least 5 episodes.
The idea of making the first officer the focal point and the main character is good, keep that. We need an identification figure in that slot. What we need here is a Joe or Jane Everyperson that many in the audience can relate to. Make sure to make this character well detailed. Don't forget family, hobbies, quirks, the whole shit. This has to be the most detailed character. Gender and race are pretty much negligible in the end, but he or she has to have an aspect that everyone watching can somehow relate to. FFS, I hope you checked your viewer demographics before making this show, so model that character accordingly!
We need a main antagonist. Someone like Tomalak in TNG. That Klingon uniting the Empire comes to mind. Don't show him. Not in the first episode, not even in the first season. You needn't even cast an actor for him yet. Why would the big warlord show his face to those insignificant insects anyway? Megalomania is a good trait, and make him someone the other Klingons revere. Hitler would actually be a great role model for him, mostly because he did something very similar and it worked for very similar reasons.
Get rid of Sarek. Seriously. He's basically the magical negro deus-ex-machina, and if you really need something like this, well, get better writers. S
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
We've lost common sense and a lot of smarts in the last 20 years in the whole country, doesn't surprise me that a classic show is horribly re-written and combined with scumbag greed (i,e first ep. broadcast, rest paywalled - oh $6 WITH ads and $10 W/out ads? Are you shitting me?).
No, they didn't, since that was a Klingon Bird of Prey. But they missed the TOS episode where the Enterprise winds up in Earth's atmosphere circa 1967.
Short of the streaming-only shows, you can basically do that via iTunes, Amazon, Google Play and sometimes Vudu. It's the streaming exclusives that knock this out of whack, not to mention that you're going to pay exorbitant rates per episode.
Non-US Netflix is becoming more lucrative than US Netflix. Between The Expanse and Star Trek Discovery, I may have to find a good VPN to watch the stuff that being an American bars me from watching.
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The problem with slashdot is that most of its users were bullied and stuffed into lockers as kids!
If you're autistic, you are very high functioning. Or did a great job fooling the psychiatrist (not that hard).
A lot of people like being considered 'disabled' or have 'special needs' because it gets people to cater to them. Also, people are nicer to them and cut them some slack.
It gives folks an excuse in this day and age of hyper-competitiveness and harsh expectations. People actually brag about working 12-18 hour days seven days a week here and wear it like a badge of honor.
Which doesn't say much about our society. An acquaintance of mine has moved to France because she says it doesn't have this "psycho-striving" that we do here in the States.
She is so much more relaxed now and lost a ton of weight - even though her diet would be considered 'unhealthy' here - and she is much much happier.
So yes, people do like to be considered to have special needs in our society because of the social benefits.
lets start a war cause my big ship has no shuttles
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The MMO game which is a F2P gambling fest just released the Discovery uniforms as freebees. I imagine they're going to merchandise the ships and gear in their gambling boxes next.
The problem is more that 6.99, with ads, is expensive, as streaming goes. Netfkix, Hulu, Amazon video, CR, all bring substantially more content for a simila price, and somem with no ads for that under $7 price.
The 6.99 is high because people are already subscribed to the more popular services, and there is too much crossover for content that they do want to watch, so this ends up being the only ckntent CBS brings to the table for these potential customers. To them, this comes around to $2 a premiere, being watched ep when released, given the episodes released per month.
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I was watching the premiere with my father, and he commented "You know, they can switch to English any time now." (because he doesn't like reading subtitles). However, you could really tell that the actors went through the trouble to learn the Klingon language, but they all sounded like their fake teeth were getting in the way of the dialog. The same thing happened to the early episodes of TNG with the Ferengi.
Don't worry about the changes in the Klingon physiology. If they stick to canon, they will start to look more and more human so they can meet up with Kirk at Space Station K-7.
The director doesn't seem to be dedicated to the timeline of when this happens. Discovery is supposed to take place a bit before TOS, however, the bridge design is nothing like TOS or ENT, even though the Captain says that the Shenzhou is old. The bridge sound effects are all over the place. They seem to have the scanner sounds from TOS, but the Hailing Frequency scan from TNG. There are also a lot of TNG sounds scattered around the bridge, but the transporter sound and door squeak are from TOS.
Oh, and when did Daft Punk join the Federation?
Both great shows, btw.
because ive heard on the (REAL) internet it sucks massive balls
so i think im gonna go with slashdot is wrong once again, thats statistically more probable than star trek not sucking massive balls
"it isn't "radical" to take a pro lgbtqxyz position right now, that is the current default position of establishment in west."
Maybe you haven't been on the internet lately, all we have now is a mix of:
- "Harden up snowflake"
- "SJW alert!!!"
- "I see you are taking exception to my exception! You mean to censor my point of view! Just give me free license to spout vitriol without confrontation!"
Etc etc, which has been consistent.
However to promote a scenario where we move on from bickering doesn't seem radical, it's only logical to spend time/energy on more productive things.
And it takes a steaming dump on trekkie nerds' heads which is a big plus.
The vast majority of these posts are either thinly veiled complaints about a female black lead, which, frankly, STFU, you are objectively wrong, and would be, even if you hadn't completely missed how good this actress is, given you failed to recognize her as Sasha from the Walking Dead.
The rest are either Bitching that the show is 1. Too modern trek action style over substance. 2. Too SJW echo chamber snowflake touchy-feelyness.
Mutually exclusive positions like this generally mean polarized people are reading into it what they want to, so, stuff that as well.
It's got action, it's got star trek exploration of moral and cultural issues. Because it is Trek. The lead is, FFS, not a Vulcan, she's a human raised by Vulcans for a time, struggling between two cultures, She is basically reverse Spock, and that's at lest an idea worth looking at. She's not gender fluid or trans or whatever, she simply has a name that sounds masculine to us in this century, Marion used to be a male name less than a hundred years ago (Famously, the Duke's real name). Is it that weird that a masculine name would become unisex in 200 years? isn't that exactly the sort of world building detail that Star Trek would include? I'm reminded of the famous, "wouldn't they have cured baldness in the future?" question given to Rodenberry, to which the response was, "in the future, they wouldn't care".
There's a lot of hate here that seems weirdly misplaced.
The lead isn't a Mary Sue, in no small part because that would require her to be amazing at everything, when it's perfectly clear that she is in fact massively insecure about not being amazingly perfect at everything (because raised by VULCANS) and fucks up several (reasonably believable) times.
Some characters are thinly drawn, but my understanding is that most of the "crew" in the pilot are guest stars, and the actual ship and crew are due to be introduced in Epp3, so they were all basically redshirts and I can live with that.
The physics is a bit hit and miss, sure, but t'was ever thus with trek.
As for the Klingons, only the one ship, led by the religious fanatic, covered themselves in coffins, because, hey, RELIGIOUS FANATIC!
I will agree with one major gripe though, the Klingons (and they are not "new" they are the ones from the shoddy "Into Darkness" movie) are so badly awful looking, so horribly done, I think they gave me cancer. Fecking Ctrl-Z that change.
You can often buy season passes to shows on iTunes or Amazon. That's probably about as close as you'll get to a la carte. It ends up being cheaper to buy a streaming sub and binge the show if you're even mildly interested in anything else in their streaming package.
Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages.
In cable television, a la carte reasonably refers to the practice of being able to purchase access to channels, because that's how cable television is organized; channels, and bundles of channels. In internet "television", a la carte reasonable refers to the practice of being able to purchase access to episodes; not only because this is how we're used to handling digital media, but also because this is how digital media has traditionally been sold.
Unfortunately, DRM really ruins that. You have to trust that whoever you're buying the viewing rights is going to be around for as long as you expect to want to be able to authenticate that video file, assuming a file is even delivered to you. I "bought" an episode of Babylon 5 on Amazon Prime because I couldn't conveniently get it elsewhere. It was only one episode so it wasn't a lot of money even though the price-per-episode is a bit steep, and it served my needs at the time so I spent the money. But I have to trust that Amazon will stick around and that they will retain the rights to distribute that video and that they will distribute that video for as long as I think I'm going to care about it in order to justify the "purchase".
And that's why services like TPB still exist. People will pay a nickel or a dime to watch a TV show that they don't have any expectation of being able to rewatch for free. They'll pay a lot more for a piece of physical media without phone-home DRM, because they assume they'll be able to watch again. The little bit of streaming content that is actually available on a per-episode basis tends to be overpriced. Or you can just go torrent it, and you're done. You have the content for as long as you can hang onto it. Content that people would pay a nickel or dime or maybe even a quarter for to watch now, and then maybe pay again to watch it again later is just getting downloaded instead, producing no revenue now — and no revenue later. Reminds me of a RATM lyric...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Don't worry about the changes in the Klingon physiology. If they stick to canon, they will start to look more and more human so they can meet up with Kirk at Space Station K-7.
I thought they already retconned that as Klingons disguised as Humans?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Can't happen. This is after Enterprise, where the Klingons changed in appearance because of the augment virus and the cure for it.
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Token Vulcan looked like Billy Lurk from Dishonored 2.
I'd just like to point out that those of us who DVR'd the premiere were in for some disappointment: some football game ran late and the show aired off of schedule. How many of those pirates torrented the show just to find out how it ended?
How's life in the hypocrite lane?
Wow Slashdot, two day outage.
Anyway, yes, this is exactly what we all wanted. A-la-carte channels. The problem is that the arrogance of the networks believing we will subscribe to it for just one show. This didn't work at all for FEELN either.
The main issue is that unless that channel is available worldwide, people will still pirate it. It doesn't matter if Netflix carries it in the few countries it is available in. Someone, somewhere will pirate it out of spite. Stop region locking shit, and piracy will drop, because "US ONLY" content means people just subscribe to VPN's to bypass the geolock, and then pirate with impunity because they are already paying for the VPN. The few people who actually subscribe and pirate the program distribute it to everyone else who can't deal with the bullshit required just to watch it.
It's like media companies don't want to learn from the DVD and Blueray piracy. People are lazy and cheap, and will do the the least amount of effort needed to watch the program. As long as finding the show on a Kodi box with piracy plugins is easier than torrenting it 24 hours after the show airs, people have no reason to subscribe to individual channels.
There is no value in subscribing to CBS all access when it only offers the CBS programs at the exact same price Netflix or Hulu offers a much larger, fresher, content library.
Don't get me wrong, the best solution would be for CBS to air it's new content on CBS All Access at the same time it's broadcast, and keep their entire syndicated content library on it, while simultaneously making that content available to Netflix, Hulu, and cable/fibre VOD systems. The problem is that they don't do this. They withhold all but the last episode to the VOD systems, and don't put the last season of anything on netflix. So that makes cord cutters decide which service they think is the most value (eg Netflix) and pirate everything that isn't available. Just ask anime watchers. They will watch crunchyroll until a program they want to watch isn't available and then pirate the show they want. If too many things aren't available, cancel Crunchyroll and just pirate everything forever more. If Netflix was smart they would partner with Crunchyroll and simulcast all the anime and split the profits.
The Orville is Trek done right. Some laughs and a PC-ectomy making it television that is entertainment and not social engineering. Fuck the new Trek. FYI, I bet the ship was named after Howard Thomas Orville, the first man to survey the entire Antarctica coast and considered the Father of Radar Weather.
Sisko was a fucking hack. It was every other character on DS9 that made it what it was. Sisko was just there for the ride, being... I don't know, fucking weird all the time. Took him the entire first season just to get over the "I've only ever been an extra on shitty 80's shows" bad acting. He's basically just portraying a brain damaged and unnecessarily emotional black person for 7 seasons.
It's time to make some JAMBALAYA HUEH HUEH!
I don't really understand this CBS "exclusivity" talk everywhere as I have the 2 episodes available on Netflix, with one new each week.
Isn't it available on Netflix USA too?
mlw.
I guess you missed how it wasn't the Enterprise that landed in the park but a much smaller Klingon Bird-of-Prey that Kirk had captured in Star Trek III.
That was a Klingon ship not the Enterprise