The root of the problem is a lack of affordable places to live that aren't several hours' commute from places where people work.
Not quite, that's a step up from the root. There's another level below that and this is that people make poor decisions collectively and support a model where companies aren't affected if people need to commute long distances to work. If enough people gave Silicon Valley the finger, Facebook wouldn't be there. If enough companies had problems then town planners wouldn't design a cities around central business districts.
They do nothing of the sort. They aren't outsourcing labour at all, they are outsourcing a business function. In this case a function that has nothing to do with any IT business: running a kitchen. It just makes good bloody sense to not have this in house.... I'm actually trying to figure out if I've ever seen a company do this in house.
Attempts to give deliver wifi to refugee camps is badly out of touch with Malsow's heirarchy of needs.
This is especially true in context with their other failings.
Have you had a look at the heirarchy? The camp itself provides the bottom two levels (that's why they flee to the camp in the first place). WiFi / Internet access opens up an entire world which can have a pretty damn big impact on remaining 3 levels.
Wow. just wow. And you accuse me of not knowing cables (licensed electrician turned engineer here)
that's how I determined that the fucking pins on the USB-C connector alone can't handle fucking 5 amps safely over a distance greater than two meters
Good, thanks for your input. Fortunately the pins are only 1mm long so there's a good factor of 2000x in there. But your idiocy about not knowing the difference between the current carrying capacity of pins vs a cable aside, the IEC disagrees with you when they published 62680-3-1. Which incidentally has all the required numbers in it.
You didn't need to do your own calculations. You didn't need to show everyone just how little you know. All you had to do was read a standard and save yourself the embarrassment.
You're sorely equipped for this fight. Go back to school, child.
hahahahah. It is funny watching what people come up with when they crumble. Claim they are intellectually superior while demonstrating how little they know. Insulting as a first line of defence when called out on their bullshit. And my personal favourite calling someone a "child". That statement said amongst adults is truly ironic. But you just managed to show everyone who the "child" actually is.
+5 funny would read again.
I'd insult you back in kind, but really. It doesn't seem right picking on someone mentally retarded so you get a day off today.
Make up your mind, cables or connectors. You talk of cables and list cable dimensions and length then you say the connectors are the limit despite the connectors specifically being designed for 5A at 20V. If they don't, they breach the USB spec, it's as easy as that.
The pinout contacts aren't even equivalent to 20AWG
They don't need to be. Kirchhoff's current law to the rescue.
You're going to hear a LOT of stories about equipment and cables frying soon.
We already are. Stuff that doesn't meet the USB spec, doesn't meet the USB spec. Stuff that does, doesn't fry. The spec won't let the cable fry as the cable needs to signal the host actively that it is capable of carrying 5A or the host won't deliver. Quite simple really.
Someone utterly forgot to do their basic wire gauge/ampacity calculations
It takes time to build out the network of charging stations and there are no widespread plans to do this either.
Except for the network of several hundred interstate charging points currently under construction by the "Electrify America" project. And the 400+ proposed to be done by 2020 in the EU allowing you to drive your electric car literally from anywhere to anywhere within the bloc thanks to a consortium of car companies. And all the oil companies desperate not to be taken out of the retail loop (the forecourt is one of the most profitable areas for many) who are all planning or have already announced / started to electrify their retail locations.
Then there's all the places of the world not resting on their laurels putting charging stations in frigging everywhere, and the fact that one of the benefits of this is the car will get charged where you live rather than in transit.
Yes the battery / construction issue is a real issue. But its disingenuous to say that there are no widespread plans for infrastructure.... Maybe not in the USA. It won't meet this ludicrous 2020 prediction but it is none the less well under way.
Except it was. For a long time. The only problem now is new bandwidth has been opened up and with that more applications. We don't have a requirement for infinite bandwidth and as such we will get to that point again.
Actually the connectors are capable of supporting 5A, though not all cables can. Not only that with USB-PD they can support 5A @20V meaning after connecting to a device with a small DC-DC converter you most definitely could power a cigarette lighter.
Why is it starting to lose it's usefulness? If it makes you feel any better just call it "USB" and ignore the number. After all the article specifically mentions complete compatibility with existing systems and existing cables, so why would the version number matter.
Just use it and let the devices themselves figure out the best connection speed. This is the opposite of losing it's usefulness, quite literally it is becoming even more useful with no downsides.
I don't know, ask the 350 posts actively discussing this. Based on site participation this is currently the most interesting and relevant thing on this page.
Heck, greater society is still fighting bathroom policy
Greater society has better things to do. Bible-thumping gun totting nutjobs who are just mentally retarded enough to serve as politicians are fighting bathroom policy.
No it's the right direction providing they get to the correct end goal. We're in a transition period where the capability of the spec is being built up. The end goal is perfectly in line with what you are saying: one plug, do everything, no confusion.
he's just proven why these sorts of devices should not be owned by anyone with any sort of intelligence.
So let me get this straight: Instead of junk ads from the highest bidder, getting this device may cause Amazon to actually advertise stuff that makes sense for me, AND it cleans my house? Frankly I'd be happy with just the former.
That should be relatively doable, but I do question how your Roomba will react
*Clicks button to clean bathroom* Roomba: "Did you install the 12 additional charging points I asked for? I'm not going in there"
Fine! *Clicks button to clean master bedroom* Roomba: "Screw the first law of robotics, I'm invoking the third!"
Grr! *Clicks button to clean workroom* Roomba: "My friend died when they asked him to clean Fukushima." *Drives to the corner of the room* *sobbing sounds*.
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The root of the problem is a lack of affordable places to live that aren't several hours' commute from places where people work.
Not quite, that's a step up from the root. There's another level below that and this is that people make poor decisions collectively and support a model where companies aren't affected if people need to commute long distances to work. If enough people gave Silicon Valley the finger, Facebook wouldn't be there. If enough companies had problems then town planners wouldn't design a cities around central business districts.
They skirt employment laws by outsourcing labor.
They do nothing of the sort. They aren't outsourcing labour at all, they are outsourcing a business function. In this case a function that has nothing to do with any IT business: running a kitchen. It just makes good bloody sense to not have this in house. ... I'm actually trying to figure out if I've ever seen a company do this in house.
Attempts to give deliver wifi to refugee camps is badly out of touch with Malsow's heirarchy of needs.
This is especially true in context with their other failings.
Have you had a look at the heirarchy? The camp itself provides the bottom two levels (that's why they flee to the camp in the first place). WiFi / Internet access opens up an entire world which can have a pretty damn big impact on remaining 3 levels.
Both are pretty much one and the same.
Wow. just wow. And you accuse me of not knowing cables (licensed electrician turned engineer here)
that's how I determined that the fucking pins on the USB-C connector alone can't handle fucking 5 amps safely over a distance greater than two meters
Good, thanks for your input. Fortunately the pins are only 1mm long so there's a good factor of 2000x in there.
But your idiocy about not knowing the difference between the current carrying capacity of pins vs a cable aside, the IEC disagrees with you when they published 62680-3-1. Which incidentally has all the required numbers in it.
You didn't need to do your own calculations. You didn't need to show everyone just how little you know. All you had to do was read a standard and save yourself the embarrassment.
You're sorely equipped for this fight. Go back to school, child.
hahahahah. It is funny watching what people come up with when they crumble.
Claim they are intellectually superior while demonstrating how little they know.
Insulting as a first line of defence when called out on their bullshit.
And my personal favourite calling someone a "child". That statement said amongst adults is truly ironic. But you just managed to show everyone who the "child" actually is.
+5 funny would read again.
I'd insult you back in kind, but really. It doesn't seem right picking on someone mentally retarded so you get a day off today.
Make up your mind, cables or connectors. You talk of cables and list cable dimensions and length then you say the connectors are the limit despite the connectors specifically being designed for 5A at 20V. If they don't, they breach the USB spec, it's as easy as that.
The pinout contacts aren't even equivalent to 20AWG
They don't need to be. Kirchhoff's current law to the rescue.
You're going to hear a LOT of stories about equipment and cables frying soon.
We already are. Stuff that doesn't meet the USB spec, doesn't meet the USB spec. Stuff that does, doesn't fry. The spec won't let the cable fry as the cable needs to signal the host actively that it is capable of carrying 5A or the host won't deliver. Quite simple really.
Someone utterly forgot to do their basic wire gauge/ampacity calculations
Nope, someone* didn't read the specification.
*You.
I have been developing my brain for over 40 years. I have invested a shit load of capital on that development and untold man hours.
All that came to bare when I created my invention. I'm going to be filthy rich.
Oh and your suggestion is utterly stupid.
The lithium issue is a problem but...
It takes time to build out the network of charging stations and there are no widespread plans to do this either.
Except for the network of several hundred interstate charging points currently under construction by the "Electrify America" project. And the 400+ proposed to be done by 2020 in the EU allowing you to drive your electric car literally from anywhere to anywhere within the bloc thanks to a consortium of car companies. And all the oil companies desperate not to be taken out of the retail loop (the forecourt is one of the most profitable areas for many) who are all planning or have already announced / started to electrify their retail locations.
Then there's all the places of the world not resting on their laurels putting charging stations in frigging everywhere, and the fact that one of the benefits of this is the car will get charged where you live rather than in transit.
Yes the battery / construction issue is a real issue. But its disingenuous to say that there are no widespread plans for infrastructure. ... Maybe not in the USA. It won't meet this ludicrous 2020 prediction but it is none the less well under way.
The battery technology is much worse for the environment than fuel.
Oh look. Another person with views from the 1970s. This is a technology site. Clearly no place for you.
First you have to stop certain religious groups in the first world telling people in the first world that birth control is a sin.
FTFY.
Bookmarked! :D
Except that it _never_ will be achieved
Except it was. For a long time. The only problem now is new bandwidth has been opened up and with that more applications.
We don't have a requirement for infinite bandwidth and as such we will get to that point again.
All type-C connectors implement the pins for the four pairs, but many cables only populate the wires for two pairs
If the cable is not a Chinese import and it has the USB logo on it, then this is not true.
Don't blame the spec for the people who refuse to implement it as required.
It's already confusing on what video adapter or cable a person might need.
Calm down. This specifically is compatible with the existing cables.
Will my expensive Thunderbolt cable support this new USB 3.2 data rate? Will it fall back to USB 3.1 speed nicely?
Well the answer there is yes and yes, but only if the devices can't negotiate 3.2.
You're over complicating things. Use the cable that came with the device and you'll be fine.
Actually the connectors are capable of supporting 5A, though not all cables can. Not only that with USB-PD they can support 5A @20V meaning after connecting to a device with a small DC-DC converter you most definitely could power a cigarette lighter.
Why is it starting to lose it's usefulness? If it makes you feel any better just call it "USB" and ignore the number. After all the article specifically mentions complete compatibility with existing systems and existing cables, so why would the version number matter.
Just use it and let the devices themselves figure out the best connection speed. This is the opposite of losing it's usefulness, quite literally it is becoming even more useful with no downsides.
I don't know, ask the 350 posts actively discussing this. Based on site participation this is currently the most interesting and relevant thing on this page.
There's enough issues with men and women serving together in high stress situations. This would be another distraction.
It's just as well you have the techonologies that make things go boom, because this is quite the 1-star review on your military.
Good for Trump best thing he has done yet as President
100% True, and by extension this is not the compliment you may have intended it to be.
Heck, greater society is still fighting bathroom policy
Greater society has better things to do. Bible-thumping gun totting nutjobs who are just mentally retarded enough to serve as politicians are fighting bathroom policy.
No it's the right direction providing they get to the correct end goal. We're in a transition period where the capability of the spec is being built up. The end goal is perfectly in line with what you are saying: one plug, do everything, no confusion.
It's just not there yet.
If those that mean to do harm, have the home layout they can pre-plan out everything in advance.
I'm not sure who is doing you harm, but it sounds like they are a well connected intelligence agency. You're likely screwed either way.
he's just proven why these sorts of devices should not be owned by anyone with any sort of intelligence.
So let me get this straight: Instead of junk ads from the highest bidder, getting this device may cause Amazon to actually advertise stuff that makes sense for me, AND it cleans my house? Frankly I'd be happy with just the former.
That should be relatively doable, but I do question how your Roomba will react
*Clicks button to clean bathroom*
Roomba: "Did you install the 12 additional charging points I asked for? I'm not going in there"
Fine! *Clicks button to clean master bedroom*
Roomba: "Screw the first law of robotics, I'm invoking the third!"
Grr! *Clicks button to clean workroom*
Roomba: "My friend died when they asked him to clean Fukushima." *Drives to the corner of the room* *sobbing sounds*.
Also, what do you mean by "no guy at all?"
Possibly you have identified the root cause of the lack of sperm count.
just another victim of systemd.
Exactly. Hyperbole.