We haven't, however, done such a great job in giving them something *other* than trust in authority to fall back on.
I would think the very process that identified those cigarettes as being bad for you would be a good fallback mechanism. Those damn big cigar corporations lying to us, scientists exposed them! Wait vaccinations? I don't trust science!
I know what it means. My comment was playing with the fact that the GP thinks we have existing Safe By design plans just laying around waiting to be built. We don't.
That's adorable. You think this will actually bring thousands of Americans jobs. It's okay we can pay for it with that incredible budget surplus we have, right?
Although you are right about one thing. Trump wins again. I wonder what fancy concession he got now? A new casino in China maybe? Or maybe a new investment into another one of his shitty enterprises like the last "win" he had when negotiating with the Chinese?
Trump has always "won". It's America that gets screwed in the process.
Yes, but that brings the followup question: Are Americans prepared to pay for products and services that support American companies, the wellbeing of others, and the local economy? *looks at China's manufacturing* Well we answered that question in the last 20 years.
Today, public schools closed because TEN DEGREES is considered too cold to allow kids to wait a bus stops. What the fuck is that?
A realisation that people plan for normal conditions and not extreme weather that happens rarely? If I were forced to wait at a bus stop in the mid-west right now, I would literally die. I do not own the cloths required to keep me alive in the temperatures just experienced. I guess if wore all my cloths at the same time I have a fighting chance, but really I'd just call in sick.
Define cold with an exact number including the humidity figure and compare the weather that causes the schools to close with the yearly averages and series of peaks.
Interesting that you judge the cost / benefit ratio by the bill of materials vs the components you think are actually important.
What a retarded approach. Normal people would judge the cost / benefit as "Do I want to spend this money to play these games". What next, you won't buy a car with cup holders since you don't drink coffee on the go?
Every security system in the world has been thwarted in the past. Just because locks can be picked doesn't mean I don't have a lock on my front door.
My point still stands, the users affected here did not put even put in basic precautions into their own protection. Why should Nest be responsible for improving their security when the users don't even use the tools at hand?
Hey I'll take something I can type into Google, over something that spits out generic results any day. People forget that meaningless error codes actually help narrow down the error by connecting people with a potentially same underlying problem.
Please, give me a KB number. Give me a stack trace. It's far better than what we're getting right now.
What a strange edge case. On the flip side it's quite well known that scheduled maintenance is mostly incremental and a complete re-index and rescan from defender is only forced when you don't use your computer for a long time. It is also only done when the computer is idle and the process suspends should you actually do something with it. Likewise fetching and background install of updates would be completely non-intrusive for a normal user.
But, yeah, there's always someone out there like you who loves to shout, "User error... as usual!"
Well this clearly was. A normal computer user doesn't not use their computer for weeks on end. If people shouting user error at you is "usual" then maybe you should look at what makes you so very different than people who don't have any problems with their machine.
Reminds me of when Microsoft first broke WindowsUpdate on Win7, so it would sit there for hours at 100% CPU and never do anything.
Normal use reminds you of a bug that was serious and warranted a fix from Microsoft? Yes, you're in the realm of user error.
Given how crap Windows has been for decades, I find it remarkable how many people pretend that Win10 is actually a good OS underneath. It's not.
It's incredibly how people make a determination of what's "underneath" and OS by some very superficial surface complaints. Again, given your knowledge of Windows it's not surprising you came to the conclusion. People often complain about things they don't understand.
So instead of building something safe by design, they're going to dick around with Rube Goldberg cooling and control systems.
What is safe by design? There are no Gen IV reactors on the market at present. All of these inherently safe reactors are still in the R&D phase. In the meanwhile Gen III reactors feature plenty of passive safety systems and inherently safer design than earlier versions, and that include's Westinghouse's baby the AP1000 which would have been Westinghouse's bid should they have been allowed to play.
IIRC, they charged a premium for the versions with the codes
Err no they most definitely did not. For the most part UltraViolet were just magically included with premium releases. I.e. you're almost certain any boxed sets, special editions, and in many cases just the plain old Bluray's only release came with them.
You the owner of the device should decide exactly who has access, and be ultimately responsible if you choose weak passwords or fail to further protect the system with an additional layer such as a VPN.
You're talking about a device which offers 2FA which users don't bother using, where users are also clearly reused passwords.
What makes you think giving the user more control would in any way make the system safer? I'll wager you the result would be the exact opposite.
but it seems like Nest could be a doing better job helping their customers secure their systems
I'm wondering just what you think would be "better"? I mean Nest already offers 2FA, sends emails to customers encouraging the use of 2FA, and warns you about suspicious access (found this one out while on holiday in another country when I remembered we turned the heating off despite having a housesitter).
This is why I'd never opt for some 3rd party managed system in my own home.
All your criteria are already offered by Nest, so no this is not the reason you refuse to use it. There must be something else as well.
Weren't H-1B's supposed to be to get people who had skills not available locally... which would be people with higher education?
What makes you think only higher education skills are in shortage? I look at countries around the world and these are usually not in any meaningful shortage. You want shortage, look for teachers, look for plumbers and electricians, look for Americans willing to empty your garbage can in your office while you're at home having dinner.
H-1Bs are wanted by business because of pure money and power.
H-1Bs are wanted by CS businesses for pure money and power. In the meantime regardless of what you think there are actually plenty of fields in the USA that have actual worker shortages which can't be fixed in a matter of a couple of months.
The H-1B program is basically a violation of national sovereignty for business profits.
hahahahah. Yeah right. That's why the program is entirely within the control of your supposedly violated sovereign state. I've heard a lot of bullshit about H-1Bs, but this one is truly in a class of it's own.
No it doesn't. Windows 10 takes bugger all and then the pre-fetch service uses a shit-ton of your available RAM. It's also much faster at freeing this RAM when requested, and you'll notice your 4GB computer doesn't really noticeably slow down at all when you open up something resource heavy e.g. the latest Lightroom with it's 2.7GB memory footprint.
On the flip side launch Office after this exercise takes longer.
Can I introduce you to this new concept of caching? The only wasted RAM is empty RAM.
Windows 10 regularly sits at 100% CPU for hours on end on my 2018 computer.
Given you knowledge of how Windows works it's not surprising you somehow managed to break your system.
Ha ha, yeah sure they will. As if the average Windows user will be able to understand a KB article and formulate a fix from it.
The average user doesn't need to. Let the experts be experts, but for the love of fucking god put more detail in error messages than "Something went wrong:-("
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diseases is among the obvious definitions of 'unintelligent'
Neither the study nor the summary of it mentions intelligence.
We haven't, however, done such a great job in giving them something *other* than trust in authority to fall back on.
I would think the very process that identified those cigarettes as being bad for you would be a good fallback mechanism. Those damn big cigar corporations lying to us, scientists exposed them! Wait vaccinations? I don't trust science!
He's easily satisfied.
Hey I'd be easily satisfied too if every time I made a phone call with the Chinese I end up with a 9 figure investment in one of my pet projects.
Safe by design means
I know what it means. My comment was playing with the fact that the GP thinks we have existing Safe By design plans just laying around waiting to be built. We don't.
and thousands of Americans lose their jobs.
That's adorable. You think this will actually bring thousands of Americans jobs. It's okay we can pay for it with that incredible budget surplus we have, right?
Although you are right about one thing. Trump wins again. I wonder what fancy concession he got now? A new casino in China maybe? Or maybe a new investment into another one of his shitty enterprises like the last "win" he had when negotiating with the Chinese?
Trump has always "won". It's America that gets screwed in the process.
Yes, but that brings the followup question: Are Americans prepared to pay for products and services that support American companies, the wellbeing of others, and the local economy? *looks at China's manufacturing* Well we answered that question in the last 20 years.
Today, public schools closed because TEN DEGREES is considered too cold to allow kids to wait a bus stops. What the fuck is that?
A realisation that people plan for normal conditions and not extreme weather that happens rarely?
If I were forced to wait at a bus stop in the mid-west right now, I would literally die. I do not own the cloths required to keep me alive in the temperatures just experienced. I guess if wore all my cloths at the same time I have a fighting chance, but really I'd just call in sick.
On my case...it gets cold here
Define cold with an exact number including the humidity figure and compare the weather that causes the schools to close with the yearly averages and series of peaks.
Apparently! As long as you can afford a $60,000+ car you can have it all!
You can have it all for much less than that when you're not being a disingenuous arse.
Interesting that you judge the cost / benefit ratio by the bill of materials vs the components you think are actually important.
What a retarded approach. Normal people would judge the cost / benefit as "Do I want to spend this money to play these games". What next, you won't buy a car with cup holders since you don't drink coffee on the go?
Amazon often had two versions of a movie, one with a code, one without
I've never seen one with and one without from the same seller. Can you give an example?
Because 2FA has been thwarted in the past
Every security system in the world has been thwarted in the past. Just because locks can be picked doesn't mean I don't have a lock on my front door.
My point still stands, the users affected here did not put even put in basic precautions into their own protection. Why should Nest be responsible for improving their security when the users don't even use the tools at hand?
Hey I'll take something I can type into Google, over something that spits out generic results any day. People forget that meaningless error codes actually help narrow down the error by connecting people with a potentially same underlying problem.
Please, give me a KB number. Give me a stack trace. It's far better than what we're getting right now.
If you haven't used Windows for a few weeks
What a strange edge case. On the flip side it's quite well known that scheduled maintenance is mostly incremental and a complete re-index and rescan from defender is only forced when you don't use your computer for a long time. It is also only done when the computer is idle and the process suspends should you actually do something with it. Likewise fetching and background install of updates would be completely non-intrusive for a normal user.
But, yeah, there's always someone out there like you who loves to shout, "User error... as usual!"
Well this clearly was. A normal computer user doesn't not use their computer for weeks on end. If people shouting user error at you is "usual" then maybe you should look at what makes you so very different than people who don't have any problems with their machine.
Reminds me of when Microsoft first broke WindowsUpdate on Win7, so it would sit there for hours at 100% CPU and never do anything.
Normal use reminds you of a bug that was serious and warranted a fix from Microsoft? Yes, you're in the realm of user error.
Given how crap Windows has been for decades, I find it remarkable how many people pretend that Win10 is actually a good OS underneath. It's not.
It's incredibly how people make a determination of what's "underneath" and OS by some very superficial surface complaints. Again, given your knowledge of Windows it's not surprising you came to the conclusion. People often complain about things they don't understand.
I hope they will be better quality than most of the stuff i'm forced to order from china.
Maybe you should pay a decent price for proper stuff, then you'll find that even made in China can result in very decent quality.
So instead of building something safe by design, they're going to dick around with Rube Goldberg cooling and control systems.
What is safe by design? There are no Gen IV reactors on the market at present. All of these inherently safe reactors are still in the R&D phase. In the meanwhile Gen III reactors feature plenty of passive safety systems and inherently safer design than earlier versions, and that include's Westinghouse's baby the AP1000 which would have been Westinghouse's bid should they have been allowed to play.
IIRC, they charged a premium for the versions with the codes
Err no they most definitely did not. For the most part UltraViolet were just magically included with premium releases. I.e. you're almost certain any boxed sets, special editions, and in many cases just the plain old Bluray's only release came with them.
I prefer CNNNN https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
You the owner of the device should decide exactly who has access, and be ultimately responsible if you choose weak passwords or fail to further protect the system with an additional layer such as a VPN.
You're talking about a device which offers 2FA which users don't bother using, where users are also clearly reused passwords.
What makes you think giving the user more control would in any way make the system safer? I'll wager you the result would be the exact opposite.
Honestly they should get a copy of every info breach
Why? They offer and encourage the use of 2FA. If users won't go to basic lengths to protect themselves why should Nest go out of their way to do it?
My login and password were reused and are in the Collection #1 leak. I'm not worried about my Nest.
but it seems like Nest could be a doing better job helping their customers secure their systems
I'm wondering just what you think would be "better"? I mean Nest already offers 2FA, sends emails to customers encouraging the use of 2FA, and warns you about suspicious access (found this one out while on holiday in another country when I remembered we turned the heating off despite having a housesitter).
This is why I'd never opt for some 3rd party managed system in my own home.
All your criteria are already offered by Nest, so no this is not the reason you refuse to use it. There must be something else as well.
Weren't H-1B's supposed to be to get people who had skills not available locally... which would be people with higher education?
What makes you think only higher education skills are in shortage? I look at countries around the world and these are usually not in any meaningful shortage. You want shortage, look for teachers, look for plumbers and electricians, look for Americans willing to empty your garbage can in your office while you're at home having dinner.
H-1Bs are wanted by business because of pure money and power.
H-1Bs are wanted by CS businesses for pure money and power. In the meantime regardless of what you think there are actually plenty of fields in the USA that have actual worker shortages which can't be fixed in a matter of a couple of months.
The H-1B program is basically a violation of national sovereignty for business profits.
hahahahah. Yeah right. That's why the program is entirely within the control of your supposedly violated sovereign state. I've heard a lot of bullshit about H-1Bs, but this one is truly in a class of it's own.
Windows 10 takes 3 GB.
No it doesn't. Windows 10 takes bugger all and then the pre-fetch service uses a shit-ton of your available RAM. It's also much faster at freeing this RAM when requested, and you'll notice your 4GB computer doesn't really noticeably slow down at all when you open up something resource heavy e.g. the latest Lightroom with it's 2.7GB memory footprint.
On the flip side launch Office after this exercise takes longer.
Can I introduce you to this new concept of caching? The only wasted RAM is empty RAM.
Windows 10 regularly sits at 100% CPU for hours on end on my 2018 computer.
Given you knowledge of how Windows works it's not surprising you somehow managed to break your system.
Ha ha, yeah sure they will. As if the average Windows user will be able to understand a KB article and formulate a fix from it.
The average user doesn't need to. Let the experts be experts, but for the love of fucking god put more detail in error messages than "Something went wrong :-("