So after a month and a half we can assume Microsoft fixed it by now
What makes you think that a specific vendor's crappy software is Microsoft's responsibility to fix? Like the UEFI bug which caused Lenovo devices to be corrupted by Linux 4.13? The fix for that was purposefully disabling functionality of the Linux kernel on those devices.
I would not be surprised if Lenovo was the only manufacturer shipping Windows 10 systems with 4GB of RAM and Secure Boot enabled.
Part of Microsoft "Designed for Windows" certification requires OEMs to ship their windows computers with Secure Boot enabled by default, and a switch for disabling it to be present in the BIOS.
Be surprised. Be very surprised.
Posted from a computer with 4GB of RAM and Secure Boot on which boots just fine.
Now while Lenovo may be the only company to "take security seriously" they are also the only company who couldn't code a Hello World example without including some system breaking bug. A company that has been in trouble with Microsoft updates before, who embedded firmware in their devices which called home, and a company where enabling Thunderbolt while running Linux caused their computer to be bricked (very secure a computer that can't even get to the BIOS screen), or installing Linux Kernel 4.13 caused the Lenovo BIOS to become read only (also great for security).
Fuck Lenovo and their piece of shit software / firmware.
The fact that an IE patch made Lenovo and only Lenovo laptops unbootable says more about Lenovo than about Microsoft.
I mean sure MS's Quality control would be a running joke if they ever got it running, but give credit where credit is due. This isn't the first time Lenovo laptops became unbootable for some irrelevant OS update. Remember when a Linux kernel update actually managed to properly brick Lenovo devices? I do.
Which real OS are you talking about? I hope not Linux since the last time we got a story like this it was the latest Linux kernel making Lenovo laptops unbootable due to a UEFI bug.
This was like delayed start for service in windows, ohh, look windows loads faster but whoops, it won't run apps tied to those services that have not started yet but M$ can brag how fast the windows GUI boots even though you can not run apps, until delayed start services have started.
Good. Not all apps depend on all services. There's no reason why e.g. Word should not run just because Windows doesn't have the network card up and running. Sequential booting is a relic of the 90s and we're all glad to be rid of it.
While you're not wrong, you're not right either. The interaction between IE and Windows does mean that they are likely in some cases to share some code that could cause bugs or security issues to propagate between them.
It does however not mean that every security bug in IE is a Windows bug. It also doesn't mean that fixing bugs in IE automatically has an affect on the OS.
And given that this only affects Lenovo laptops what's the bet that this bug didn't affect Windows in the slightest, but rather Lenovo shitware that has been using undocumented "features" specific to their laptops only. Sounds more like a laptop vendor depending on IE that Microsoft.
Let's face it. This is China, we instinctively know Huawei is doing things wrong. But make sure you keep looking at China, the ones we are pointing at. Just keep looking that way. Those damn spies. No no don't look at Snoden leaks, CHINA it's all about China. No CIA? What's that? NSA? Is that a football league? CHINA!!!!
If you think that's bad, just imagine how horrible things are in the USA, who have openly been caught spying on their own people, their own allies, and even worse imposing unilateral sanctions against a country for no reason and then arranging their allies to arrest foreign nationals because they are having a tempera tantrum that no one is listening to them.
The DxOMark isn't a paid site. It is however a site for masturbating to raw numbers. If that does it for you then by all means. Personally I prefer to look at photos.
Open courts are. Trial by media is not. If you want to go to the court, go to the court. That doesn't mean you should plaster the name of a person all over the public record, and a ban on media publishing doesn't make the court itself less open. It does however reduce that bizarre American practice where being through the courts ruins the rest of your life.
Here, you get arrested and if the cops decide there's enough evidence, take you in front of a Judge within 1-3 days and at that point any reporters in the court can find out your name and what you're charged with.
Banning the media from publishing names in a criminal case doesn't make it a secret court. You can go to the court case if you're interested, but expect to end up in court for a whole different reason if you then go outside and publicly publish names of the people inside.
All indications are that the media worked out the identities some of them (not all, it has to be noted) and decided to run with it on the assumption they were guilty.
In some countries it would be illegal to publish those identities regardless of guilt perceived or otherwise.
The police should not be releasing names of people that are merely suspects
They should not be releasing names Period. It's not up to the media and a public lynching to exert justice. That is for the legal system. People should be investigated, do their time for a crime and then be released when the system deems them fit to return to society without society ever knowing about it.
A few license based exceptions should occur, but again these should not result in trial by media. i.e. Someone who repeatedly drinks and drives should not get a license. Someone who touches little boys should not get a teaching permit. But in every case the public really shouldn't be involved in any way.
So if I want you to give me $100, instead I fund the $100 myself, call your boss and get you fired in a way that costs you money, it's somehow the same as you paying me $100?
That's not playing devils advocate, that is failing primary school level logic.
Obama nearly doubled the national debt from $10.626T and $19.947T. Just sayin'.
Obama for the first 3 years cleaned up Bush's mess and also suffered a huge recession where budget deficits almost doubled in nearly every country of the world. For the remainder of his presidency his spending was actually quite reasonable considering the USA was still actively fighting a war.
No in comparison the Orangeutang managed managed to get the USA budget deficit to recession emergency levels at a time where the entire world is economically quite well off and most other countries' deficits are decreasing.
But hey look over there, it's an Obama. *smoke bomb* *disappears*
During Gov shutdowns the departments still get their funding
Actually the shutdown is precisely because departments don't get their funding.
and everyone is salaried anyway.
No. In fact a good portion of the government is on an hourly rate. This includes all those poor service people the republicans like to shit on who clean their toilets and serve them food at the cafeteria. The people in most need of money do not get paid at all.
We all took it as an excellent excuse to not go into work and still get paid.
By "we" I assume you're a US government employee, well congrats you're a dick. While you're off on your paid vacation people depending on your services had problems, once again disproportionately affecting the poor who didn't get welfare payments or other government services which are relied on.
This happened several times over the last two administrations.
We had a world war last century, so we should just have another because it's all cool. Something happened in the past so there's no reason to change or try and prevent it in the future right?
and some extra paid time off has always been welcomed.
Yes, actually, I am proud that he is prioritizing the safety and security of the American people
One day when they actually do anything about the safety and security of American people you should be proud. Right now you should be angry at the theater they are putting on in the name of "security" and wasting a metric fuckton of money in the process.
Mind you if you think this is actually security then I have a wall to sell you.
The drones with which I am familiar are lightweight devices largely made of plastic and Styrofoam.
How do they fly? The drones I'm familiar with contain tightly wound metal along with a solid iron/neodymium rotating core. When you collide with this at over 300km/h it happily punches holes through metal. When it gets ingested into engines for that engine it's game over.
They are heavier and more solid than birds, and birds have been known to take down aircraft.
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So after a month and a half we can assume Microsoft fixed it by now
What makes you think that a specific vendor's crappy software is Microsoft's responsibility to fix? Like the UEFI bug which caused Lenovo devices to be corrupted by Linux 4.13? The fix for that was purposefully disabling functionality of the Linux kernel on those devices.
I would not be surprised if Lenovo was the only manufacturer shipping Windows 10 systems with 4GB of RAM and Secure Boot enabled.
Part of Microsoft "Designed for Windows" certification requires OEMs to ship their windows computers with Secure Boot enabled by default, and a switch for disabling it to be present in the BIOS.
Be surprised. Be very surprised.
Posted from a computer with 4GB of RAM and Secure Boot on which boots just fine.
Now while Lenovo may be the only company to "take security seriously" they are also the only company who couldn't code a Hello World example without including some system breaking bug. A company that has been in trouble with Microsoft updates before, who embedded firmware in their devices which called home, and a company where enabling Thunderbolt while running Linux caused their computer to be bricked (very secure a computer that can't even get to the BIOS screen), or installing Linux Kernel 4.13 caused the Lenovo BIOS to become read only (also great for security).
Fuck Lenovo and their piece of shit software / firmware.
Lenovo decided separation of functionality was something that only Linux users needed and decided to depend on IE in order for the OS to boot.
The fact that an IE patch made Lenovo and only Lenovo laptops unbootable says more about Lenovo than about Microsoft.
I mean sure MS's Quality control would be a running joke if they ever got it running, but give credit where credit is due. This isn't the first time Lenovo laptops became unbootable for some irrelevant OS update. Remember when a Linux kernel update actually managed to properly brick Lenovo devices? I do.
Which real OS are you talking about? I hope not Linux since the last time we got a story like this it was the latest Linux kernel making Lenovo laptops unbootable due to a UEFI bug.
The real issue is that Microsoft views their users are computer idiots
Considering this only happens to Lenovo laptops can you really blame them?
This was like delayed start for service in windows, ohh, look windows loads faster but whoops, it won't run apps tied to those services that have not started yet but M$ can brag how fast the windows GUI boots even though you can not run apps, until delayed start services have started.
Good. Not all apps depend on all services. There's no reason why e.g. Word should not run just because Windows doesn't have the network card up and running. Sequential booting is a relic of the 90s and we're all glad to be rid of it.
While you're not wrong, you're not right either. The interaction between IE and Windows does mean that they are likely in some cases to share some code that could cause bugs or security issues to propagate between them.
It does however not mean that every security bug in IE is a Windows bug. It also doesn't mean that fixing bugs in IE automatically has an affect on the OS.
And given that this only affects Lenovo laptops what's the bet that this bug didn't affect Windows in the slightest, but rather Lenovo shitware that has been using undocumented "features" specific to their laptops only. Sounds more like a laptop vendor depending on IE that Microsoft.
Let's face it. This is China, we instinctively know Huawei is doing things wrong. But make sure you keep looking at China, the ones we are pointing at. Just keep looking that way. Those damn spies. No no don't look at Snoden leaks, CHINA it's all about China. No CIA? What's that? NSA? Is that a football league? CHINA!!!!
If you think that's bad, just imagine how horrible things are in the USA, who have openly been caught spying on their own people, their own allies, and even worse imposing unilateral sanctions against a country for no reason and then arranging their allies to arrest foreign nationals because they are having a tempera tantrum that no one is listening to them.
"How x won y". What a stupid, mindless, clickbait title. It means nothing.
Of course it means something. Google won! Not sure what competition they were in, but they won! Woot.
The DxOMark isn't a paid site. It is however a site for masturbating to raw numbers. If that does it for you then by all means. Personally I prefer to look at photos.
Open courts are. Trial by media is not. If you want to go to the court, go to the court. That doesn't mean you should plaster the name of a person all over the public record, and a ban on media publishing doesn't make the court itself less open. It does however reduce that bizarre American practice where being through the courts ruins the rest of your life.
Here, you get arrested and if the cops decide there's enough evidence, take you in front of a Judge within 1-3 days and at that point any reporters in the court can find out your name and what you're charged with.
Banning the media from publishing names in a criminal case doesn't make it a secret court. You can go to the court case if you're interested, but expect to end up in court for a whole different reason if you then go outside and publicly publish names of the people inside.
Msmash how did you post something on the 26th December that has comments from the 14th December?
Is it such a slow news day that you need to repost stuff?
All indications are that the media worked out the identities some of them (not all, it has to be noted) and decided to run with it on the assumption they were guilty.
In some countries it would be illegal to publish those identities regardless of guilt perceived or otherwise.
The police should not be releasing names of people that are merely suspects
They should not be releasing names Period. It's not up to the media and a public lynching to exert justice. That is for the legal system. People should be investigated, do their time for a crime and then be released when the system deems them fit to return to society without society ever knowing about it.
A few license based exceptions should occur, but again these should not result in trial by media. i.e. Someone who repeatedly drinks and drives should not get a license. Someone who touches little boys should not get a teaching permit. But in every case the public really shouldn't be involved in any way.
They were caught breaking the law.
No they weren't, which is precisely why they were released without charge.
We have some quake sensor data but nothing that would warn of a tsunami.
That comment is hilarious in its ignorance of how tsunami warnings work.
thereby indirectly harming that nation's economy.
So if I want you to give me $100, instead I fund the $100 myself, call your boss and get you fired in a way that costs you money, it's somehow the same as you paying me $100?
That's not playing devils advocate, that is failing primary school level logic.
Obama nearly doubled the national debt from $10.626T and $19.947T. Just sayin'.
Obama for the first 3 years cleaned up Bush's mess and also suffered a huge recession where budget deficits almost doubled in nearly every country of the world. For the remainder of his presidency his spending was actually quite reasonable considering the USA was still actively fighting a war.
No in comparison the Orangeutang managed managed to get the USA budget deficit to recession emergency levels at a time where the entire world is economically quite well off and most other countries' deficits are decreasing.
But hey look over there, it's an Obama. *smoke bomb* *disappears*
During Gov shutdowns the departments still get their funding
Actually the shutdown is precisely because departments don't get their funding.
and everyone is salaried anyway.
No. In fact a good portion of the government is on an hourly rate. This includes all those poor service people the republicans like to shit on who clean their toilets and serve them food at the cafeteria. The people in most need of money do not get paid at all.
We all took it as an excellent excuse to not go into work and still get paid.
By "we" I assume you're a US government employee, well congrats you're a dick. While you're off on your paid vacation people depending on your services had problems, once again disproportionately affecting the poor who didn't get welfare payments or other government services which are relied on.
This happened several times over the last two administrations.
We had a world war last century, so we should just have another because it's all cool. Something happened in the past so there's no reason to change or try and prevent it in the future right?
and some extra paid time off has always been welcomed.
Fuck you.
Yes, actually, I am proud that he is prioritizing the safety and security of the American people
One day when they actually do anything about the safety and security of American people you should be proud. Right now you should be angry at the theater they are putting on in the name of "security" and wasting a metric fuckton of money in the process.
Mind you if you think this is actually security then I have a wall to sell you.
And it is the same here, there is practically no knowledge or hard facts about what damage a drone would do to an airliner.
Except that the damage from birds is well researched and the damage from drones is easily proven as being far worse than birds using simple physics.
Mind you your perception thing is bullshit as well as those same simple physics also show how mobile phones do nothing to aircraft.
The drones with which I am familiar are lightweight devices largely made of plastic and Styrofoam.
How do they fly? The drones I'm familiar with contain tightly wound metal along with a solid iron/neodymium rotating core. When you collide with this at over 300km/h it happily punches holes through metal. When it gets ingested into engines for that engine it's game over.
They are heavier and more solid than birds, and birds have been known to take down aircraft.