in fairness to the author, it's only Part I "Hardware" I'm sure Part II and beyond will better answer your gripes (at least I hope so!)
Besides, sometimes posting about the trials and small failures of a project is more meaningful than just saying everything worked swimmingly, i.e. his example could help steer people towards less noisey stuff and to his credit he does point people to the excellent silent pc review resource.
" How do you integrate MythTV with your cable or satelite provider? Anything above a certain channel I need to use their setup box... "
The same exact way you would if you bought a standalone series 2 Tivo... You route the digital cable box's (or satellite box) video/audio outputs into the PC PVR's tuner/encoder card's video/audio input and setup an IR blaster which will allow MythTV et al to change the channel on your cable box (just like your existing cable remote control) at the appropriate times to record "E's Wild On!" or what have you... =P
Note: this is obviously not a good option if you want HD content via cable/satellite but for regular Standard Definition "digital cable" and satellite works fine.
granted it's pretty extreme/reactionary to say that it will be illegal to build HD PC PVR's if the BF comes to fruition, the end game will essentially be that.
1. if your broadcast flag enabled HDTV PC card is told to not to allow record/save anymore, it's not much of a DVR any more is it?
2. Look closer at the BF spec... If I'm not mistaken it would prevent/limit/restrict/outlaw the ability to have open source BF enabled HDTV card driver. So a project like this one would be illegal in that hypothetical BF enabled future.
AuMatar: Bravo! I couldn't have said it any better... although with the current climate (i.e. grokster SCOTUS decision) maybe not so much on number 6, eh?
" There is a link to Zap2it, but wasn't there a slashdot article not too long ago about Zap2it beginning to block users due to high traffic etc. Something like changing their format would render MythTv useless? I am really curious to know if it's possible." Have a link?
Unless I'm mistaken (or there was a 2nd incident), Zap2it had an open letter to the community about some certain commercial (shareware?) PVR software makers abusing the free datadirect service they were providing to freeware and OSS projects.
In addition if someone was THAT concerned about the future of their listings could check out LxMSuites is offering robust EPG data tailored for MythTV as a subscription where some of the profits are re-invested in to the MythTV project.
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Although it's not p2p, the Family Guy DVD popularity was another example of how a network misgauged the audience interest in a show, but open market forces showed a strong audience prompting them to bring the show back.
I don't think (not having read the whole ruling mind you) that it's that cut and dry.
What constitutes promoting? how is that defined? What if 3rd partys promote it as a tool with illegal uses?
I think it boils down to intent, which IANAL seems like it will require lawyers/courts to decide if someone "intends" (or promotes) their tool as having illegal uses.
*shrug* Just doesn't seem very clear/explicit to me.
The main concept that if everyone blocks ads, *some* sites will go away is correct.
BUT, there's more than just profit motive for creating web content AND there's more than one way to generate revenue (if there is a profit motive).
Example: Jason Kottke's micro-patron experiment his site is ad free. He did a fairly un-agressive (although getting boingboinged certainly helps) pledge campaign to raise enough ducats to live on for a year with a suggested donation of 30 beans. some gave more, some gave less...
In anycase, if everyone blocks ads the model will change. Now if it's for the better or for the worse, that would be remain to be seen. Obviously if you're doubleclick it would probably be for the worse.
I'd be up crap's creek myself if everyone blocked ads, but I sorta understand the mentality (I'm Mr. FFwd through commercials on his PC PVR, after all.. ):)
"Still, they don't have a micropayment infrastructure deployed in any publicly accessible installation."
Of course not, not yet anyways. But it's not far fetched to think that they can, and that if there's a market there, they will. Which is what I'm saying and TFA alludes to.
If you want to nitpick about what constitutes a true "micropayment" system, go sit in the corner and do so. I was just trying to read the writing on the wall.
what do you think happens when a person who uses "paypal" money to make a payment to another person on the paypal network? It's just moving beans around. It's when money goes into and out of the system and it's turned into "real" currency...
I don't think you understand how google adwords/adsense work...
There's already a gateway/barrier to entry of sorts... you sign up for (and provide personal "real" information for) google adwords from which advertisers put real money into google's system.
This real money is then distributed in smaller chunks (after google takes it's cut) to the adsense publisher sites downstream that are publishing these clickthrough ads. When someone clicks on these ads your adsense account acrues small amounts (or medium/large amounts per click if you have a good/popular keyword)... if you acrue over 100 dollars, you take money out of the system (monthly).
Money is changing hands, facilliated by google servers/technology... How is that any different than paypal (execpt the general public component which I'm saying is a natural next step)?
And i'd better dollars to donuts that google could come up with "smarter" fraud identification algorythms (even if I can't speel it) than paypal... They already do similiar work to identify fraudelent clicktroughs...
I'm telling you it's not that different/removed from the infrastructure they have in place now (not that it is an easy endeavor). It's not like I came up with this idea on my own, I heard it from a google rep. 2 years ago describing some of their internal systems and the complexities of handling all these transactions...
Google basically made it's own micropayment transaction system internally to handle the accounting of google adwords and adsense revenue changing hands in millions of transactions every day.
They just needed to take the next logical step with it.
no where in that robots.txt do you see anything about dissalowing article.pl for google... what are your section do you think is blocking google from seeing "comments"...
IIRC besides exluding them completely the only other way of taking the incentive of comment spamming is google's use of attribute (rel="nofollow") in hyperlinks.
*Shrug* but I might be off base/wrong about the robot thing.
There are "client" replacments for SageTV and GBPVR that allow you to extend the full functionality of your PC PVR to these little quiet clients over your wired network (a wireless version is in the works... some wireless bridge gateway shennagins are possible depending on the quality of your link/bitrate/quality)
I gotta think if this were "real" there'd be concerns about the sheer weight of the rig.
Normal sized Zalman heatsinks come with a warning about exceeding the recommended mass that intel sanctions as appropriate to be placing on top of their sillicon, can't imagine what the warning would be like on this thing. Do not taunt "big boy flower heatsink"
How can "they" talk about taking their ball/content and going home over network broadcast TV when it's an advertising driven medium?
I bet, dollars to donuts, if the networks start getting better/more deals for "product placement" and other nuevo-advertising AND they figure out how to account for internet downloaders to count as additional eyeballs/ratings, they'd change their tune pretty quickly.
Remember folks, originally cable companies (the group being lauded in the article) were originally pirates of broadcast television! Of course the industry reacted badly (lawsuits, hand waving, PSA's) to the birth of cable. Now it's a legitimate distribution medium.
This is how a slow cumbersome industry falls to irrelevanc as they react badly to new disruptive technologies.
You can smile smugly now, but don't think for a minute that there's not a movement from the same content producers to get the European Union broadcasters to tweak the DVB spec for your own UK/European flavored broadcast flag.
Although you guys do have it a little bit better as the BBC seems to be embracing internet VOD distribution, but I digress.
it is a typo. Internet's version of the "telephone" game.
See this slashdotter's post where he digs up the original comment from lucas (and it's posed as a totally hypothetical question) and it IS 800 years ago.
Slashdot Mirror
in fairness to the author, it's only Part I "Hardware" I'm sure Part II and beyond will better answer your gripes (at least I hope so!)
Besides, sometimes posting about the trials and small failures of a project is more meaningful than just saying everything worked swimmingly, i.e. his example could help steer people towards less noisey stuff and to his credit he does point people to the excellent silent pc review resource.
*Shrug*
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Yes it works outside the US... where in Europe are your parents? What cable provider?
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" How do you integrate MythTV with your cable or satelite provider? Anything above a certain channel I need to use their setup box...
... =P
"
The same exact way you would if you bought a standalone series 2 Tivo... You route the digital cable box's (or satellite box) video/audio outputs into the PC PVR's tuner/encoder card's video/audio input and setup an IR blaster which will allow MythTV et al to change the channel on your cable box (just like your existing cable remote control) at the appropriate times to record "E's Wild On!" or what have you
Note: this is obviously not a good option if you want HD content via cable/satellite but for regular Standard Definition "digital cable" and satellite works fine.
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granted it's pretty extreme/reactionary to say that it will be illegal to build HD PC PVR's if the BF comes to fruition, the end game will essentially be that.
1. if your broadcast flag enabled HDTV PC card is told to not to allow record/save anymore, it's not much of a DVR any more is it?
2. Look closer at the BF spec... If I'm not mistaken it would prevent/limit/restrict/outlaw the ability to have open source BF enabled HDTV card driver. So a project like this one would be illegal in that hypothetical BF enabled future.
*Shrug*
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AuMatar: Bravo! I couldn't have said it any better... although with the current climate (i.e. grokster SCOTUS decision) maybe not so much on number 6, eh?
" There is a link to Zap2it, but wasn't there a slashdot article not too long ago about Zap2it beginning to block users due to high traffic etc. Something like changing their format would render MythTv useless? I am really curious to know if it's possible."
Have a link?
Unless I'm mistaken (or there was a 2nd incident), Zap2it had an open letter to the community about some certain commercial (shareware?) PVR software makers abusing the free datadirect service they were providing to freeware and OSS projects.
In addition if someone was THAT concerned about the future of their listings could check out LxMSuites is offering robust EPG data tailored for MythTV as a subscription where some of the profits are re-invested in to the MythTV project.
e.
Although it's not p2p, the Family Guy DVD popularity was another example of how a network misgauged the audience interest in a show, but open market forces showed a strong audience prompting them to bring the show back.
Another example but P2P related was how P2P piracy (*ahem* online independent distribution) helped BattleStar Galactica become a hit
"they" really don't see the opportunities that exist and gonna keep squeezing their existing business model till it's dry.
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I don't think (not having read the whole ruling mind you) that it's that cut and dry.
What constitutes promoting? how is that defined? What if 3rd partys promote it as a tool with illegal uses?
I think it boils down to intent, which IANAL seems like it will require lawyers/courts to decide if someone "intends" (or promotes) their tool as having illegal uses.
*shrug* Just doesn't seem very clear/explicit to me.
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Probably start visiting another site, as we don't take kindly to no rootin tootin "self respectin'" folks around here =P
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and just use Technorati and del.icio.us and the like to do "blogosphere market research" I could make a mint!
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The main concept that if everyone blocks ads, *some* sites will go away is correct.
:)
BUT, there's more than just profit motive for creating web content AND there's more than one way to generate revenue (if there is a profit motive).
Example: Jason Kottke's micro-patron experiment his site is ad free. He did a fairly un-agressive (although getting boingboinged certainly helps) pledge campaign to raise enough ducats to live on for a year with a suggested donation of 30 beans. some gave more, some gave less...
In anycase, if everyone blocks ads the model will change. Now if it's for the better or for the worse, that would be remain to be seen. Obviously if you're doubleclick it would probably be for the worse.
I'd be up crap's creek myself if everyone blocked ads, but I sorta understand the mentality (I'm Mr. FFwd through commercials on his PC PVR, after all.. )
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"Still, they don't have a micropayment infrastructure deployed in any publicly accessible installation."
Of course not, not yet anyways. But it's not far fetched to think that they can, and that if there's a market there, they will. Which is what I'm saying and TFA alludes to.
If you want to nitpick about what constitutes a true "micropayment" system, go sit in the corner and do so. I was just trying to read the writing on the wall.
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thank god microsoft wasn't founded as gicrosoft.
I would not use a "Gonad" CLI
=P
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what do you think happens when a person who uses "paypal" money to make a payment to another person on the paypal network? It's just moving beans around. It's when money goes into and out of the system and it's turned into "real" currency...
I don't think you understand how google adwords/adsense work...
There's already a gateway/barrier to entry of sorts... you sign up for (and provide personal "real" information for) google adwords from which advertisers put real money into google's system.
This real money is then distributed in smaller chunks (after google takes it's cut) to the adsense publisher sites downstream that are publishing these clickthrough ads. When someone clicks on these ads your adsense account acrues small amounts (or medium/large amounts per click if you have a good/popular keyword)... if you acrue over 100 dollars, you take money out of the system (monthly).
Money is changing hands, facilliated by google servers/technology... How is that any different than paypal (execpt the general public component which I'm saying is a natural next step)?
And i'd better dollars to donuts that google could come up with "smarter" fraud identification algorythms (even if I can't speel it) than paypal... They already do similiar work to identify fraudelent clicktroughs...
I'm telling you it's not that different/removed from the infrastructure they have in place now (not that it is an easy endeavor). It's not like I came up with this idea on my own, I heard it from a google rep. 2 years ago describing some of their internal systems and the complexities of handling all these transactions...
*Shrug*
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Google basically made it's own micropayment transaction system internally to handle the accounting of google adwords and adsense revenue changing hands in millions of transactions every day.
They just needed to take the next logical step with it.
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doh... I realized that just after I posted it.
But wouldn't the previous google media partners entry have precedence?
*Shrug* I need more coffee
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no where in that robots.txt do you see anything about dissalowing article.pl for google... what are your section do you think is blocking google from seeing "comments"...
IIRC besides exluding them completely the only other way of taking the incentive of comment spamming is google's use of attribute (rel="nofollow") in hyperlinks.
*Shrug* but I might be off base/wrong about the robot thing.
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The mediamvp is pretty cool... I believe there's a lot of MediaMVP linux hacking at SHSpvr forum
It playsback primarily mpeg2 but there are little transcode on the fly utilities that allow it to push divx/etc through it's mpeg2 decoder.
howto use MediaMVP, PVR250, GBPVR make cheap/easy PVR
There are "client" replacments for SageTV and GBPVR that allow you to extend the full functionality of your PC PVR to these little quiet clients over your wired network (a wireless version is in the works... some wireless bridge gateway shennagins are possible depending on the quality of your link/bitrate/quality)
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That's no heatsink... that's a battle station!
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I gotta think if this were "real" there'd be concerns about the sheer weight of the rig.
Normal sized Zalman heatsinks come with a warning about exceeding the recommended mass that intel sanctions as appropriate to be placing on top of their sillicon, can't imagine what the warning would be like on this thing. Do not taunt "big boy flower heatsink"
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the rub is that if BF is re-enacted, HDTV tuner cards that are needed to make MythTV, etc. useful will need to be manufactured to respect the BF.
*Shrug* The DMCA would probably still apply (unfortunately) as it's not about breaking encryption it's about circumventing copy controls.
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BTW: Be sure to Contact Your Representative to tell them where to stick the BF/MPAA legislation.
How can "they" talk about taking their ball/content and going home over network broadcast TV when it's an advertising driven medium?
I bet, dollars to donuts, if the networks start getting better/more deals for "product placement" and other nuevo-advertising AND they figure out how to account for internet downloaders to count as additional eyeballs/ratings, they'd change their tune pretty quickly.
Remember folks, originally cable companies (the group being lauded in the article) were originally pirates of broadcast television! Of course the industry reacted badly (lawsuits, hand waving, PSA's) to the birth of cable. Now it's a legitimate distribution medium.
This is how a slow cumbersome industry falls to irrelevanc as they react badly to new disruptive technologies.
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Ah, but you don't exist in a vaccuum my friend...
You can smile smugly now, but don't think for a minute that there's not a movement from the same content producers to get the European Union broadcasters to tweak the DVB spec for your own UK/European flavored broadcast flag.
Although you guys do have it a little bit better as the BBC seems to be embracing internet VOD distribution, but I digress.
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it is a typo. Internet's version of the "telephone" game.
See this slashdotter's post where he digs up the original comment from lucas (and it's posed as a totally hypothetical question) and it IS 800 years ago.
What are newsweek editors blogging now?
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I totally understand, I'm dying to pull the trigger on some sort of CRT HDTV set soon.
scaling is probably technically the wrong word (I know I used it above) but yeah you've got the right idea.
I think it's more of a "scan converting" than a scaling, but I'm talking half outa my arse at this point =P
It's automagic...
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