Here comes an example from the real world: Apt/dpkg is no better than rpm. I can install cups without ghostscript and apt doesn't complain. I have this dependency with my printer, most probably others who use CUPS with a laser printer don't have the dependency.
thats not really a problem with apt at all.. its a problem with the person using apt not 'apt-get install'ing everything that they need. As you said, ghostscript isn't a dependancy with cups, its a dependancy of your printer, since you know that you need that, you just have to apt-get install ghostscript as well..
this is really cool.. but why not just use debian.. then you can have your cake and eat it too.. or in this case, have your software and great package management too..
this kinda seems like a lot of work to get packages if you are using redhat or mandrake.. it would be quicker to get rpms from the millions of places that have them then from the feel places that will have debs for mandrake or redhat et al..
if you want the great package management of debian and the great new desktop managers and stuff of mandrake, just install debian and switch to unstable and apt-get all the stuff you want..
What CODEC did the pirates, who could choose any one they want to swap pirate video, choose to use? Quicktime Sorenson? RealMedia? No, Media Player.
media player isnt a codec, divx is, although media player is one of the few players that doesnt have a problem with using 3rd party codecs to play stuff.
that would be a horrible idea because the consumers would be the ones to lose out.. IE and mediaplayer are totally better than any 3rd party counterparts, not to mention most of the 3rd party counterparts to some extent just embed the microsoft products using system api's..
tell me about it.. I work for a university and you wouldn't believe how many ethernet ports we have to replace because someone could grasp the concept of the "data" and "phone" labels above ports and jammed their phone cord in the ethernet port and wiggled it around trying to get it to work before moving it to the phone one..
Its not really a problem using 4-pair connectors for 2-pair stuff if the only thing going into it is 4 pair because you'll never use the pins that are bent anyway, but if you plug a 2 pair into a 4 pair connector that you plan to use for 4 pair connections later, you better plan on being able to punch down a new connector..
Well IE runs on Windows and MacOS, thats about 98% of all home computers. If that bothers the small majority of people that use linux as a desktop OS, thats just too bad. I'm sure I'll get modded down for this, but oh well.. that happens to me a lot.. There is really no reason to target 2% of any market when they can easily target 98% all in one swoop, and if they did develop ads that worked with linux browser, then the whole free os community would be up in arms about that.. apparently in the linux world, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, so why bother..
Somehow the phrase "Microsoft Office for Linux" has gotten people all fired up. Do you really want a version of Office for Linux? Really?
No, I'd rather have IE for linux, but I'd like to have it done by the team that did IE for the Mac. The IE for Mac has a lot better features than IE for Windows.
yeh i was just thinking that this isnt really news worthy.. those little screen fors the ps1's have been out for quite a time..not to mention the format of a ps1 is much better for a portable device.
actually.. if you ever lost a book in highschool and had to pay to replace it, you'd know that the average school book is about $120.. so yeh.. a laptop costs about as much as 3 or 4 school books.. its not that big of a deal..
see the subject.. there's no better way to keep people from using email on a laptop than to close the lid..
If they are activily using the laptop for some learning exercise, they will be busy with what they are doing so their won't be a problem with them checking email..
Besides computers are made to multitask.. if the children realize that before the teachers, thats too bad.. but in the real world of college (that hs love to tell lies about) you can check email or whatever else you want to do while using computers as long as at the end of the class period you have the required work done too..
I get a -1 troll because I put out that the stupid anology doesnt fit the situation and you get a 2 for agreeing with me and also saying you dont even like trek... gotta love/. groupthink..
fuck you.. this is not flamebait.. its not my fault that apple doesn't know how to use standard system widgets when they port their software to other OS's. At least MS products on macs can manage to make us of the standard system widgets instead of making their own up that people can't use..
actually, considering the bulk rate they are buying them at and the fact that ibooks are pretty inexpensive to begin with, they are probably $400 or less per unit.. divide that over the 3 or 4 years they are expected to use the laptop, thats not that much money..
I had no idea quicktime was 10 years old.. my first experience with movies and such was some bizaar movie formats that I don't think exist anymore do to their craptacularness that I downloaded from BBS's using 2400bps modems.. even when the web revolution or whatever started, I didn't hear about quicktime until after I heard about real and a few other formats.. I wonder how long quicktime has worked under windows..
yeh once I install quicktime, I just set windows Media player to play the content using the quicktime codecs... Then I almost never have to look at the shitty quicktime interface..
CD: you'd think people would examine the job someone did at thier previous job before offering them a new one. Isn't this is like putting Capt. Hazelwood in charge of an oil tanker?
First off, being the white house I'm sure they throughly examined everything about him.. I had a friend apply for a fairly low position with the DoD and they interviewed his friends and family as well as giving him a lie detector test.
Secondly, this is hardly compareable to the Exxon Valdez thing..
Third who are you to say he did a bad job at MS?
Other then just taking at cheap shot as MS, you have no info about his job performance or even what he specifically did while working at "The Great Evil"
Maybe its just me, or maybe theres a reason you dont see chrisd listed in the hof anywhere..
they might be there, but they are damn hard to find even with powerful search engines such as google.. and once you do find links for them, they are either broken links, or too outdated of ISO's to even want to use for net installs..
I don't see why the debian team doesn't just release some iso's and allow a few people to download them and mirror them for everyone..
many people that I try to convince to use debian are put off by the lack of official, bootable install cd's.
Once debian gets bootable install cd's and a newbie user installer, I see it taking off and becoming very popular due to the superior package management and the fact that they don't put a lot of the crap that redhat, mandrake, et al. insist on installing whether you want it or not..
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thats not really a problem with apt at all.. its a problem with the person using apt not 'apt-get install'ing everything that they need. As you said, ghostscript isn't a dependancy with cups, its a dependancy of your printer, since you know that you need that, you just have to apt-get install ghostscript as well..
this is really cool.. but why not just use debian.. then you can have your cake and eat it too.. or in this case, have your software and great package management too..
this kinda seems like a lot of work to get packages if you are using redhat or mandrake.. it would be quicker to get rpms from the millions of places that have them then from the feel places that will have debs for mandrake or redhat et al..
if you want the great package management of debian and the great new desktop managers and stuff of mandrake, just install debian and switch to unstable and apt-get all the stuff you want..
What CODEC did the pirates, who could choose any one they want to swap pirate video, choose to use? Quicktime Sorenson? RealMedia? No, Media Player.
media player isnt a codec, divx is, although media player is one of the few players that doesnt have a problem with using 3rd party codecs to play stuff.
that would be a horrible idea because the consumers would be the ones to lose out.. IE and mediaplayer are totally better than any 3rd party counterparts, not to mention most of the 3rd party counterparts to some extent just embed the microsoft products using system api's..
tell me about it.. I work for a university and you wouldn't believe how many ethernet ports we have to replace because someone could grasp the concept of the "data" and "phone" labels above ports and jammed their phone cord in the ethernet port and wiggled it around trying to get it to work before moving it to the phone one..
Its not really a problem using 4-pair connectors for 2-pair stuff if the only thing going into it is 4 pair because you'll never use the pins that are bent anyway, but if you plug a 2 pair into a 4 pair connector that you plan to use for 4 pair connections later, you better plan on being able to punch down a new connector..
Well IE runs on Windows and MacOS, thats about 98% of all home computers. If that bothers the small majority of people that use linux as a desktop OS, thats just too bad. I'm sure I'll get modded down for this, but oh well.. that happens to me a lot.. There is really no reason to target 2% of any market when they can easily target 98% all in one swoop, and if they did develop ads that worked with linux browser, then the whole free os community would be up in arms about that.. apparently in the linux world, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, so why bother..
No, I'd rather have IE for linux, but I'd like to have it done by the team that did IE for the Mac. The IE for Mac has a lot better features than IE for Windows.
fucking dumbshit mod.. if anything its offtopic, not a troll..
yeh i was just thinking that this isnt really news worthy.. those little screen fors the ps1's have been out for quite a time..not to mention the format of a ps1 is much better for a portable device.
who knew shit like this could go on in US.. thats horrible.. how can you arrest someone for not going to work..
actually.. if you ever lost a book in highschool and had to pay to replace it, you'd know that the average school book is about $120 .. so yeh.. a laptop costs about as much as 3 or 4 school books.. its not that big of a deal..
see the subject.. there's no better way to keep people from using email on a laptop than to close the lid..
If they are activily using the laptop for some learning exercise, they will be busy with what they are doing so their won't be a problem with them checking email..
Besides computers are made to multitask.. if the children realize that before the teachers, thats too bad.. but in the real world of college (that hs love to tell lies about) you can check email or whatever else you want to do while using computers as long as at the end of the class period you have the required work done too..
rtfm or 'man rpm'
thats ok.. everything else I post is almost auto-modded to -1 or 0..
Yeh but you aren't allowed to call them the NSA or acknowledge the existance of the NSA or something..
I get a -1 troll because I put out that the stupid anology doesnt fit the situation and you get a 2 for agreeing with me and also saying you dont even like trek... gotta love /. groupthink..
fuck you.. this is not flamebait.. its not my fault that apple doesn't know how to use standard system widgets when they port their software to other OS's. At least MS products on macs can manage to make us of the standard system widgets instead of making their own up that people can't use..
actually, considering the bulk rate they are buying them at and the fact that ibooks are pretty inexpensive to begin with, they are probably $400 or less per unit.. divide that over the 3 or 4 years they are expected to use the laptop, thats not that much money..
I had no idea quicktime was 10 years old.. my first experience with movies and such was some bizaar movie formats that I don't think exist anymore do to their craptacularness that I downloaded from BBS's using 2400bps modems.. even when the web revolution or whatever started, I didn't hear about quicktime until after I heard about real and a few other formats.. I wonder how long quicktime has worked under windows..
yeh once I install quicktime, I just set windows Media player to play the content using the quicktime codecs... Then I almost never have to look at the shitty quicktime interface..
how does this get a score 3? its not even a good anology..
yet another wonderfully stupid anology brought to you by the faithful readers at /.
First off, being the white house I'm sure they throughly examined everything about him.. I had a friend apply for a fairly low position with the DoD and they interviewed his friends and family as well as giving him a lie detector test.
Secondly, this is hardly compareable to the Exxon Valdez thing..
Third who are you to say he did a bad job at MS?
Other then just taking at cheap shot as MS, you have no info about his job performance or even what he specifically did while working at "The Great Evil"
Maybe its just me, or maybe theres a reason you dont see chrisd listed in the hof anywhere..
actually.. almost every /. article has comments meant for a previous article.. i suspect its a bug in slashcode..
they might be there, but they are damn hard to find even with powerful search engines such as google.. and once you do find links for them, they are either broken links, or too outdated of ISO's to even want to use for net installs..
I don't see why the debian team doesn't just release some iso's and allow a few people to download them and mirror them for everyone..
many people that I try to convince to use debian are put off by the lack of official, bootable install cd's.
Once debian gets bootable install cd's and a newbie user installer, I see it taking off and becoming very popular due to the superior package management and the fact that they don't put a lot of the crap that redhat, mandrake, et al. insist on installing whether you want it or not..