The ruling today simply means that Infeoen did not violate any rambus patents, it doesn't mean the actual patents are invalid.
So, what happens now with the spineless companies that backed down; they can't exactly turn around and take Rambus to court after signing a licensing agreement. The only way they could escape the license is if the patents were found to be invalid. Rambus (unfortunatly) is dead yet.
Just read the cryptome piece and this really made me see red:
"The HackSDMI challenge contained two "non-watermark" technologies. Together, they appear to be intended to prevent the creation of "mix" CDs, where a consumer might compile audio files from various locations to a writable CD",
RIAA members are total scum, If I buy a CD and I want to make a compliation, that's my business, they are my CDs. So far it's been the switched on/. crowd that has been pissed off by the RIAA, if something like this is implimented it will affect and piss off a far greater amount of people.
If I can not longer backup my own properity because of these efforts, surely the people that prevented me making a backup must provide a replacement if it gets damaged?
Seems like the record companies want it both ways.
Your MP3 player as well as your PDA? What about you personal TV, have a look at www.snapstream.com
64 megs makes snapstream a very usable product, I watch last nights simpsons on the train each morning.
ah haa, so the packages are just compressed tar balls. Good I must be able to hack something together, maybe. This system is a router that needs to be rolled out to a handful of sites and the admins on the remote sites are NT guys who have not touched any *nix systems, ever. I just want to give them a CD, boot the machine that I'm shipping with the CD and follow very very simple fdisk and label instructions, install the one package =full directory structure. I will (hopefully) have remote access to the boxes by dial up then to do the rest. Everything works with my install but how to package it is still a mystery but you have helped a great deal thank you.
Any have any good links for makeing a custom FreeBSD install CD? I have a FreeBSD install here that I want to burn to CD as it's standardised install for several machine, I want to be able to put the CD in the drive, boot off it and then install it. I have the FreeBSD system setup on a HD here so think of it as backing up a current system and making an install CD out of it.
I have no clue where to even start or if this is possible? There must be some real gods here though that can explain how the installer works and how to make just one large package from a file system and have it install from a bootable CD.
Sorry, I know this is kinda off topic but I'm more than stuck with this, one week of FreeBSD experience is just not enough:-(
"frequent updates to the routing table entries by network managers are causing instability in the Internet's backbone routing infrastructure"
Yeap, seen this too many times to be funny: Network managers, when you make a change to the networks you advertise or your filters, use "clear ip bgp * soft out"! Without the soft out, all your routes get withdrawn and then re-added around a minute later, crating a mini route wave through the Internet. Instead of forcefully resetting your peers, soft out will just add to the table version without withdrawing routes. You could also use "soft in" for applying filters to incoming routes also BUT watch out for memory useage with this command. Soft out doesn't have this issue.
This is fairly basic Cisco IOS stuff but I've seen network admins from 2 of the top ISPs do this on peering point routers that were advertising a lot of routes to a lot of peers.
Is Dragon actually usable for day to day communications then? How much editing would be needed for a text of that lenght or would dragon get it down pat almost correctly at the first draft?
I write a lot, and it sure would be a lot nicer on the RSI to use a dictation system. I tried IBM's version a couple of years ago and it really wasn't up to the job all though a good effort. Has dictation come a lot further since then?
BGP is commonly refered to as a path vector protocol, if you want to split hair about it, I'm going to call OSPF a distance vector protocol as well then, as Intra-area OSPF is distance vector.
OSPF on very large networks? Well, 2,000 routers is something I consider to be a large network and it runs fine. The key is a good addressing scheme, summarisation and correct use of stub areas, OSPF is very scalable.
2 full tables on a 2600 is really no problem, I'm not suggesting it's best practice but the router certainly doesn't melt. How processor intensive do you think bgp is? Try sh proc cpu on one of your other routers to get an idea. A 2600 with 64meg can handle two full views and this was last year, not 1994.
There is NO reason to have your own AS, unless you are multi-homed. PERIOD. I've taught the BCSN and that does indeed teach that, it's a good rule for that level of course but doesn't apply to the real world.
I think you are really showing how much you know here "You should have your ISP set up a static route and inject that into their BGP w/ a network statement": Where does that route orginate from? The ISPs AS in this case and a lot of customers don't want this, one, as they will no doubt be multihomed in the future and two, as I stated earlier it ties them in to an single ISP a great deal more than with their own AS.
Why (you muppet) would you want a full table in this case with only one connection? You fail to even understand that you would of course filter BGP routes from the ISP as you don't need them and static to the ISP, just because you have a peer doesn't mean you have to have the full routes. Jeezzz
ISIS, what are you talking about a real IGP? I work extensivly with ISIS currently and I find it very feature limited, how do you handle Multi-point interfaces? or DDR? and it means running an extra protocol besides IP.
Good luck with the CCNP, I think you'll do OK but please remember there is a lot more to this stuff than that cert.
BGP *is* a path vector routing protocol as it provides a vector to a path and does NOT use distance. RIP uses a distance in hop count, BGP uses the path in as_path. Path vector, period not "some might say".
Every time a route changed you would need to run the SPF algorithm? Nonsense. Its LSA not LSD, I think LSD is what you must be taking. Re-read the CCNA book again.
You need a large router to run BGP eh? I've had full dual views running on a 2611 (lowend router).
Phizzy, go back to the books and study harder, you are getting some things very mixed up, you are comparing BGP with OSPF directly. This is like comparing apples and oranges, OSPF or another IGP is generally required for running BGP. Running BGP when you are single homed is a waste? What happens when you are single homed with your own AS, how do you advertise routes to your up stream providor? This is very very common situation especially with companies that want flexability in moving ISPs.
I think he means that due to the way OSPF builds neighbor relationships and the fact that LSAs get flooded throughout an area, it's not practical to use it in a very large scale network such as the Internet. So, it can be used on the Internet and of course is the IGP of choice for many ISPs but it just wouldn't scale to be the *main* routing protocol of the Internet, it wasn't ever designed for this anyway. Imagine 100,000 LSAs that needed to be refreshed every 30 mins:-)
I'm fairly sure that the poster of the article didn't *actually* mean we would actually all have to run OSPF or BGP to have ethernet to our homes but it was an attempt at a bit of a joke.
How is this going to work with IPV4? Mcast routing on the Internet is basically confined to mbone and unicast from ISP to ISP via tunnels.
Also the flaw with IPV4 multicasting if used extensivly is your PC will join 16 multicast groups (which could equal a lot of traffic) as the multicast MAC address is taken from the last 23 bits of the layer 3 mcast address.
If Radia's idea is based on layer 2/3 multicasting I feel its a little bit screwed until be get IPV6 in place. Then again, I've never read "internetworking" so it could be a total different system?
But anyway regardless of the future plans, your also misguided in your comment. Gnutella uses no form of multicasting at the session layer or otherwise. Multicasting, when a protocol uses IP for at the network layer, by definition must be performed at layer 2/3 or else it's unicast, period. Gnutella floods requests but uses a peer based systems and packet duplication to each peer to perform flooding; unique packets to each unique destination, even at layer 5. Think about what a system like GNUTella is called: peer to peer.
So your comment sounds good but technically doesn't make any sense. Congratualtion to the moderators once again.
One thing I love about games consoles is the mentallity surounding them. Some people that own console X will defend it to the death. Why? I have a braun toaster, if my neighbor came round and told me his brand X toaster kicked the hell out of my braun I'd think he was more than a little bit sad.
It's marketing and some of you people fall for it so heavily. They're bits of electronics that display colors on a TV but a lot of people treat them like they are a religion. What really worries me is young people being life long fans of multi-billion mega corps.
I know your post is a bit ranty but I for one didn't know that MACs supported 3 button mice. Once I read, "USB" I thought, "but of course", until that point I thought they were all 1 button.
I'm glad Nuke doesn't exist or else you wouldn't have had chance to put this bit of FUD to rest, for me at least.
This kinda makes me wonder... There's a guy called Tony Lee who wrote most of the BGP implimentation for Cisco, this guy is good, his software handles the routing for 90% of the Internet. He left Cisco and went to work for Juniper networks and did the exact same job; he wrote Junipers BGP implimentation. Having a strong BGP implimentation enabled Juniper to compete head on with Cisco for the core router market. He has now left Juniper and is doing the exact same thing for a start-up router maker...
Is this Tony who is smarter than the average bear for avoiding such non-compete clauses or is it because Juniper and Cisco both rely on the stock options to retain key members of staff?
You saw through me 100% it was just an attempt at flaimbait, it wasn't an effort to point something out that had not been mentioned. I didn't realise Ximian is a charity, I hope I haven't offended them.
I am very jealous indeed, as you told me I don't contribute anything (really don't I?) all this time I've not been contributing and I've not got paid a penny for not contributing. No wonder I'm jealous.
Now, sacasm over. I wonder what interests you have here, my post touched a nerve by making two statements that you highlight:
"The biggest difference I can see between Gnome & KDE currently is: One is an open source project that accepts donations of programmers and hardware, the other is an opensource project coded mainly by companies with a large commercial interest." This is a true statment. Its fact.
"Is Gnome destined to become another Mozilla?"
Your comments reversed fit well here:...just like Gnome is mostly written by Ximian employees, Mozilla is mostly written by Netscape employees but the fruits of their labor is available to all.
Honestly, there is nothing in my post to warrent such a childish responce, intellgent debate maybe but not that rant and lame and plain incorrect personal attacks. Think for yourself, open your eyes, don't be a slave to your beleifs I must say it was entertaining as I laughed my head off at this "Miguel De Icacza founded GNOME and started a company just so he could afford to give away GNOME", I'm sure that is exactly what he told the venture capatists before they invested in Ximian.
There is another reason why the two will never merge that I haven't seen mentioned yet. There are technical reasons of course and they have been covered a lot but what about money?
The biggest difference I can see between Gnome & KDE currently is: One is an open source project that accepts donations of programmers and hardware, the other is an opensource project coded mainly by companies with a large commercial interest.
I don't want this to sound like flamebait but it does doesn't it? Sorry for that I re-wrote this twice and this is the best I could do. I'm not a zealot of either desktop enviroment and they both shine in certain aspects but I am worried about Gnome losing developers because of this.
I'll put it another way; Ximian's core product will either be Ximian Gnome or very dependant on it. Ximian are a company and are out to make money, they will be making profit off other developers work. Is Gnome destined to become another Mozilla?
Anyway, the biggest difference I can see is not technical but financial, this makes it very doubtful any merging would take place and maybe that's a good thing.
I really want to know something. How are you posting at +2. I read/. @ +2 and I keep seeing you drivel all the time. I thought the mod system was meant to prevent this... Quit posting 20 times to a thread @ +2 when you have nothing useful to say.
It was Paul Joseph Goebbels, who was made propaganda leader of the Nazi party in 1929. When Hitler gained power in 1933 he was made the minister for public enlightenment (nothing to do with the WM) committed suicide on May 1, 1945, as Soviet troops were storming Berlin.
In fact the translation of Goebbels' idea that you refer to is "Is people as told something oftern enough and long enough, they start to beleive it".
His diary's maybe availible on the net somewhere as they were published in English many years ago. A real evil fucker but a genius at mass mind control.
Excellent post.. One thing, you link to this site: http://gape.ist.utl.pt/ment00/linuxdvd.html
For a complete Xine with the DVD plugin, the archive on his site includes the config.cache file. If anyone uses this link to get a complete and fast DVD player, remove the config.cache file from the archive before you run configure. Anyway, I've been waiting for a DVD player for ages and I was watching LiViD which from prevous attempts is very slow.. I was too lazy to go searching to find something better, I had stumbled across Xine but didn't know where to get the plug-in from. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for the link.
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So, what happens now with the spineless companies that backed down; they can't exactly turn around and take Rambus to court after signing a licensing agreement. The only way they could escape the license is if the patents were found to be invalid. Rambus (unfortunatly) is dead yet.
Just read the cryptome piece and this really made me see red: /. crowd that has been pissed off by the RIAA, if something like this is implimented it will affect and piss off a far greater amount of people.
"The HackSDMI challenge contained two "non-watermark" technologies. Together, they appear to be intended to prevent the creation of "mix" CDs, where a consumer might compile audio files from various locations to a writable CD",
RIAA members are total scum, If I buy a CD and I want to make a compliation, that's my business, they are my CDs. So far it's been the switched on
If I can not longer backup my own properity because of these efforts, surely the people that prevented me making a backup must provide a replacement if it gets damaged?
Seems like the record companies want it both ways.
Your MP3 player as well as your PDA? What about you personal TV, have a look at www.snapstream.com 64 megs makes snapstream a very usable product, I watch last nights simpsons on the train each morning.
Hmmm nice firewall or router with only on Ethernet interface.
ah haa, so the packages are just compressed tar balls. Good I must be able to hack something together, maybe. This system is a router that needs to be rolled out to a handful of sites and the admins on the remote sites are NT guys who have not touched any *nix systems, ever. I just want to give them a CD, boot the machine that I'm shipping with the CD and follow very very simple fdisk and label instructions, install the one package =full directory structure. I will (hopefully) have remote access to the boxes by dial up then to do the rest. Everything works with my install but how to package it is still a mystery but you have helped a great deal thank you.
I have no clue where to even start or if this is possible? There must be some real gods here though that can explain how the installer works and how to make just one large package from a file system and have it install from a bootable CD.
Sorry, I know this is kinda off topic but I'm more than stuck with this, one week of FreeBSD experience is just not enough :-(
I have a feeling this article might begin a flame war however :-)
Yeap, seen this too many times to be funny: Network managers, when you make a change to the networks you advertise or your filters, use "clear ip bgp * soft out"! Without the soft out, all your routes get withdrawn and then re-added around a minute later, crating a mini route wave through the Internet. Instead of forcefully resetting your peers, soft out will just add to the table version without withdrawing routes. You could also use "soft in" for applying filters to incoming routes also BUT watch out for memory useage with this command. Soft out doesn't have this issue.
This is fairly basic Cisco IOS stuff but I've seen network admins from 2 of the top ISPs do this on peering point routers that were advertising a lot of routes to a lot of peers.
I write a lot, and it sure would be a lot nicer on the RSI to use a dictation system. I tried IBM's version a couple of years ago and it really wasn't up to the job all though a good effort. Has dictation come a lot further since then?
OSPF on very large networks? Well, 2,000 routers is something I consider to be a large network and it runs fine. The key is a good addressing scheme, summarisation and correct use of stub areas, OSPF is very scalable.
2 full tables on a 2600 is really no problem, I'm not suggesting it's best practice but the router certainly doesn't melt. How processor intensive do you think bgp is? Try sh proc cpu on one of your other routers to get an idea. A 2600 with 64meg can handle two full views and this was last year, not 1994.
There is NO reason to have your own AS, unless you are multi-homed. PERIOD. I've taught the BCSN and that does indeed teach that, it's a good rule for that level of course but doesn't apply to the real world.
I think you are really showing how much you know here "You should have your ISP set up a static route and inject that into their BGP w/ a network statement": Where does that route orginate from? The ISPs AS in this case and a lot of customers don't want this, one, as they will no doubt be multihomed in the future and two, as I stated earlier it ties them in to an single ISP a great deal more than with their own AS.
Why (you muppet) would you want a full table in this case with only one connection? You fail to even understand that you would of course filter BGP routes from the ISP as you don't need them and static to the ISP, just because you have a peer doesn't mean you have to have the full routes. Jeezzz
ISIS, what are you talking about a real IGP? I work extensivly with ISIS currently and I find it very feature limited, how do you handle Multi-point interfaces? or DDR? and it means running an extra protocol besides IP. Good luck with the CCNP, I think you'll do OK but please remember there is a lot more to this stuff than that cert.
BGP *is* a path vector routing protocol as it provides a vector to a path and does NOT use distance. RIP uses a distance in hop count, BGP uses the path in as_path. Path vector, period not "some might say".
Every time a route changed you would need to run the SPF algorithm? Nonsense. Its LSA not LSD, I think LSD is what you must be taking. Re-read the CCNA book again.
You need a large router to run BGP eh? I've had full dual views running on a 2611 (lowend router).
Phizzy, go back to the books and study harder, you are getting some things very mixed up, you are comparing BGP with OSPF directly. This is like comparing apples and oranges, OSPF or another IGP is generally required for running BGP. Running BGP when you are single homed is a waste? What happens when you are single homed with your own AS, how do you advertise routes to your up stream providor? This is very very common situation especially with companies that want flexability in moving ISPs.
Ganja the CCIE.
I'm fairly sure that the poster of the article didn't *actually* mean we would actually all have to run OSPF or BGP to have ethernet to our homes but it was an attempt at a bit of a joke.
Also the flaw with IPV4 multicasting if used extensivly is your PC will join 16 multicast groups (which could equal a lot of traffic) as the multicast MAC address is taken from the last 23 bits of the layer 3 mcast address.
If Radia's idea is based on layer 2/3 multicasting I feel its a little bit screwed until be get IPV6 in place. Then again, I've never read "internetworking" so it could be a total different system?
But anyway regardless of the future plans, your also misguided in your comment. Gnutella uses no form of multicasting at the session layer or otherwise. Multicasting, when a protocol uses IP for at the network layer, by definition must be performed at layer 2/3 or else it's unicast, period. Gnutella floods requests but uses a peer based systems and packet duplication to each peer to perform flooding; unique packets to each unique destination, even at layer 5. Think about what a system like GNUTella is called: peer to peer.
So your comment sounds good but technically doesn't make any sense. Congratualtion to the moderators once again.
It's marketing and some of you people fall for it so heavily. They're bits of electronics that display colors on a TV but a lot of people treat them like they are a religion. What really worries me is young people being life long fans of multi-billion mega corps.
I'm glad Nuke doesn't exist or else you wouldn't have had chance to put this bit of FUD to rest, for me at least.
Opps.. Tony Li and he now works at Procket.
Is this Tony who is smarter than the average bear for avoiding such non-compete clauses or is it because Juniper and Cisco both rely on the stock options to retain key members of staff?
You saw through me 100% it was just an attempt at flaimbait, it wasn't an effort to point something out that had not been mentioned. I didn't realise Ximian is a charity, I hope I haven't offended them.
I am very jealous indeed, as you told me I don't contribute anything (really don't I?) all this time I've not been contributing and I've not got paid a penny for not contributing. No wonder I'm jealous.
Now, sacasm over. I wonder what interests you have here, my post touched a nerve by making two statements that you highlight:
"The biggest difference I can see between Gnome & KDE currently is: One is an open source project that accepts donations of programmers and hardware, the other is an opensource project coded mainly by companies with a large commercial interest."
This is a true statment. Its fact.
"Is Gnome destined to become another Mozilla?" ...just like Gnome is mostly written by Ximian employees, Mozilla is mostly written by Netscape employees but the fruits of their labor is available to all.
Your comments reversed fit well here:
Honestly, there is nothing in my post to warrent such a childish responce, intellgent debate maybe but not that rant and lame and plain incorrect personal attacks. Think for yourself, open your eyes, don't be a slave to your beleifs I must say it was entertaining as I laughed my head off at this "Miguel De Icacza founded GNOME and started a company just so he could afford to give away GNOME", I'm sure that is exactly what he told the venture capatists before they invested in Ximian.
The biggest difference I can see between Gnome & KDE currently is: One is an open source project that accepts donations of programmers and hardware, the other is an opensource project coded mainly by companies with a large commercial interest.
I don't want this to sound like flamebait but it does doesn't it? Sorry for that I re-wrote this twice and this is the best I could do. I'm not a zealot of either desktop enviroment and they both shine in certain aspects but I am worried about Gnome losing developers because of this.
I'll put it another way; Ximian's core product will either be Ximian Gnome or very dependant on it. Ximian are a company and are out to make money, they will be making profit off other developers work. Is Gnome destined to become another Mozilla?
Anyway, the biggest difference I can see is not technical but financial, this makes it very doubtful any merging would take place and maybe that's a good thing.
I really want to know something. How are you posting at +2. I read /. @ +2 and I keep seeing you drivel all the time. I thought the mod system was meant to prevent this... Quit posting 20 times to a thread @ +2 when you have nothing useful to say.
It was Paul Joseph Goebbels, who was made propaganda leader of the Nazi party in 1929. When Hitler gained power in 1933 he was made the minister for public enlightenment (nothing to do with the WM) committed suicide on May 1, 1945, as Soviet troops were storming Berlin.
In fact the translation of Goebbels' idea that you refer to is "Is people as told something oftern enough and long enough, they start to beleive it".
His diary's maybe availible on the net somewhere as they were published in English many years ago. A real evil fucker but a genius at mass mind control.
Here ends today's history lesson.
That sounds like it would hurt.
That's actually fairly funny but a bit obscure? Need to know your video games for that one.. Made me smile though, thanks.
Excellent post.. One thing, you link to this site: http://gape.ist.utl.pt/ment00/linuxdvd.html For a complete Xine with the DVD plugin, the archive on his site includes the config.cache file. If anyone uses this link to get a complete and fast DVD player, remove the config.cache file from the archive before you run configure. Anyway, I've been waiting for a DVD player for ages and I was watching LiViD which from prevous attempts is very slow.. I was too lazy to go searching to find something better, I had stumbled across Xine but didn't know where to get the plug-in from. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for the link.