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ok, I am a big alpha fan, and dude, I think every other point has been covered, but I'll be damned if you think linux scales better than tru64 over multiple processors. Either way you are a troll, but its nice to get my alpha plug in there:)
According to Alphalinux Online (www.alphalinux.org) TurboLinux was working on an alpha port, which always struck me as somewhat odd, seeing as their site goes on about how optimized the distribution is for the intel pentiums and all that. I hope they do keep thier alpha development though, because us in the alphalinux world, running 64 bit right now instead of waiting for Merced or whatever lame name Intel has for it now, could always use more choice to make the distros better and better. Works the same as the 32bit world, just quicker:)
Screw IDE, gimme a 20k rpm u2w scsi drive, and some cheesy poofs. And make it big too. That would be nice, least thats where I hope they are going with these things.
Although, setting the first ethernet device to default to DHCP sounds like a good convention.
I can think of quiet a few situations where that might not be the best idea. Granted they are all server type configs where its unlikely someone is going to be installing corel. It is a good idea, and could make things easier for newbies, but I prefer an install that lets me get as much stuff done at once, as in customizing the system for how I want it and the like, I don't want to have to wait through and install and then undo alot of the stuff it does, its a waste of my time.
The day I see a microsoft linux I will die of the irony. I wonder if thier alpha version would be a crappy hack like the rest of thier alpha programs are.
Oh but what an alley it is. We really DO need some kinda/. party here, i mean come on, New York is a major metropolis, we have geeks. We must be able to get some kinda party going. hey, Maybe rob + company should take thier party on the road, that'd be great, hit all the major cities just having one big geek partyfest.
My alpha runs at 666....and the machine name is goat. A coincidence? You be the judge.:) MUAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHA Seriously, I love my alpha but it will be nice to hopefully finally get some developers for it considering merced will make most developers atleast think about 64 bit, and that will make moving apps to the alpha much less of a pain.
Wow, can't wait for that, hell, 2.3 TB (approx) of storage for $35 works for me. Oh, and I am REALLY waiting on the Intel Downstream processor. hehehhe, yeah, maybe they can get it out almost as quickly as they can ship merced...naaa, I'll stick with my alpha. BTW, for all you people who usually don't read the article, this and the followup are going to be ones you might want to check out.
They are extremely different types of movies, one played off of the tradition american sentimentality for soldiers lost in a war. The other scared the living sh*t out of me and everyone else who was in the theatre that friday night. No one even got up for a good minute after the lights went on. If you ask me it came directly from it being the opening night (sometimes its nice to be in manhatten), no one really knew what to expect, and atleast i hadn't heard that much hype about the movie at that time. With saving private ryan you knew that there was going to be a happy ending or atleast happy enough, with the BWP no one knew what was coming until they turned on the lights.
(Note, most Americans might think it wierd to bitch that you can't drive 75 MPH all the time, but that's California.) Not really, from what I drove in chicago people go 85 or so until they hit traffic and then sit still for 30 minutes and repeat. It sucks, and there is no reason for it. I hope these guys get around to doing chi town soon, we sure as hell could use it.
I think how much you know about the movie contributes a great deal to how scared you are by it. I saw it in New York on its first release day, I believe it was Friday a week ago. I was walking down the street next to the theatre and one of the people coming out said it was the scariest movie he had ever seen, and that he was NOT going to see it again no matter what. After hearing something like that I had to see it, I got in line and bought my tickets for the only show availible, 12:30am. As for how much I knew about the movie my brother (the true movie affictionado) had told me only the little 3 film students go off in the woods bit. I went in thinking it was real. Left thinking it was real, and didn't sleep until 5am when the sun was nice and up. I dislike horror movies because they are usually filled with bad lines and gore and just not funny. This was different. I've done a good deal of camping. Thinking about the movie now I think it did a great job suspending the reality, why didn't they follor the stream? how did they carry all of josh's gear? How come they didn't bring a signalling mirror/more food...etc. But leaving the theatre I wasn't thinking about that. I was still haunted by the last few images of the movie, and I live in the city. If I were even close to a forested area I'd have been scared shitless. See the movie, thats all I have to say, well acted and scary.
Only if you are American traveling on a British Airways flight with an Australian stewardess taking off from Toronto. Isn't international politics fun?
It could be even more simple than that. We all need to eat the last time I checked, and you don't eat if you don't get paid. That and some people really don't have any morals and can just be bought.
it's just a simple fact that whoever develops something first and claims it gets to reap the benefits and call the shots.
Thats a great point, I don't know much, but from what it looks like, the us contols a good chunck of the satilite space, just by the virtue that we put up a good number of them before anyone else ( I know technically the USSR had the first satilite) If we want to continue this leadership in space, and maybe even in technology in general we need to give nasa more money to do cool but useful things, like build telescopes, try and land someone on mars, figure out what the deal is with pluto. There is nothing wrong with "pure" science, because all of these missions involve a great deal of advancement of current technologies that will eventually filter down into the market. Velcro anyone?:) When corporate america is SO detemined to stay ahead of its competitors, both national and international, I can't believe they are short sighted enough not to see how having nasa do the research on new ideas/concepts/designs will save them money and let them get products out much faster. Making cuts in the space program is probably one of the worst idea's someone in congress has had in a long time. Cutting the space program will most certainly affect the technology that we can produce in the long term, short term there will probably be very few effects, but maybe 15 or 20 years from now, thats when we will start to see the effects of elimintating pure science research for short term make money fast schemes.
Thats a brilliant idea. Actually we could just give the entire country id cards, and then it would never be a problem knowing who someone was, what blood type, thier fingerprints, thier dna, what they like on thier pizza, what they were doing last tuesday when someone valdalized that wall. Oh and ofcourse all of this information would not only be for sale for more personalized spam, but we could ask to check someone's id at any time because if they either didn't have one or refused to show it they must have something to hide. RIGHT. How about we let the parents do the parenting, businesses make money and provide the services, and government keep the business inline and make sure no one infringes on my well being.
Sorry for the rant, but damn if i don't feel better now.
I thought he was joking....about time for that second cup of coffee. Yeah, last time i checked we all carry our fingerprints around with us everywhere, the difference being that currently there is no quick way for law enforcement to check them. ie, they have to haul us down to the station for some BS like a broken tail light, then print us, and then scan them in, and then search that big huge database and all that. Anyways, the whole fingerprints on license thing would work great in places where lots of people drive, like the west coast, and the more rural parts of the country, but here in manhatten I don't see this as being AS effective at numbering, catagorizing, and filing away every person, just becuase not that many people drive, and thus probably don't have drivers licenses. I know I don't.
Thats more been my experience with UPS, they have lost multiple packages comeing to my house, and its not like I live in the middle of nowhere, almost the exact opposite, there is a ups shipping center about 15 minutes from my house, outside of chicago. Granted the USPS might not have the tracking, but they've never lost and then taken 4 weeks to get my pII 450 replaced.
I'd rather have 5 or 6 written letter from someone I care about than 100 worthless e-mails. Letters have an intrinsic value that will never be matched by e-mail. I can't but a value on the letter, maybe its the smell, or the thought that they did take the time to hand write the letter, and that they spent that much time thinking about me, and what they were going to say. If I want to send something meaningful to someone I care about I sure as hell don't use e-mail. It may take a little longer, and it may cost a few cents more, but in the end I think the feeling delivered by a physical, hand written letter are more effective than a little bit of e-mail.
I hate to tell you but intel is not the first manufacturer to put serial numbers on thier chips, the high end workstation chip makers have been doing it for a while, and in a market where people were smart enough to understand the reasons. Granted, saying it was for privacy or crypto or whatever thier line was is BS, but a chip with a retrievable serial number does have some valid uses. Everyone is talking like it will be the end of the world and how they are going to boycott intel because of this, well shit, if thats why you are going to boycott intel then you have really not been paying attention recently. I don't buy intel for the simple reason that I can get better performance else where (ie the alpha). They may cost a little more, but probably no where near as much as people think they cost.
On this point I hope everything is true, if choosing a processor becomes a no brainer then where is the innovation? For too long intel has had that lock on the desktop market and look at what its done, as you said, milked the original ppro architecture for as long as possible. Where when you look at the workstation market the performance is amazing, and grows in leaps and bounds. I haven't been watching the higher class workstation/server market long enough to know if this has been true for a long time, or just recently, but in either case hp's pa-risc is pushing the alpha to new hights and the reverse is also true, and also the sparc is included in all of this. Basically it should only lead to good things for fast processors.
And McKinley is going to get a nice ass whooping by the 21364 or even the 21464 alphas. I have more trust in Compaq/Samsung/API than Intel. Especially now that we are going to see IBM helping to make copper alpha's this could be a good time. The alpha has always had the speed advantage over most other platforms, the only exception being hp's pa-risc that it occasionally shares the top slot with, but since hp is dropping that to make the McKinley crap there really isn't any cause to worry. Because alot of code re-writing/re-compiling is going to be going on, and because everything will have to be moved to 64 bit hopefully we might even see more apps supporting the alpha, not only open source, but closed source commercial stuff, which as much as we all hate it, is necessary for some things. Long Live the Alpha.
as I think I saw in someone's sig, Intel is the question, Alpha is the answer.
and we care because...? I love the athlon and all, but the alpha already can do 1ghz, at room temperature with no extra cooling. That just blows everything else out of the water, including the most recent vaporware crap from intel. Isn't this obvious? They are trying to kill the buzz about the K7 by saying they might finally almost possibly be close to thinking about making merced. Gimme a break, I'll stick with my alpha thank you very much.
I'm sorry to all of you who haven't seen Army of Darkness and obviously missed the reference, which is what the reply was all about anyways. Your might wanna see it, its a funny movie, with a bunch of great one liners, a good number of which duke nukem stole in duke 3d. So basically back off, it was a movie quote that you didn't get.
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ok, I am a big alpha fan, and dude, I think every other point has been covered, but I'll be damned if you think linux scales better than tru64 over multiple processors. Either way you are a troll, but its nice to get my alpha plug in there :)
According to Alphalinux Online (www.alphalinux.org) TurboLinux was working on an alpha port, which always struck me as somewhat odd, seeing as their site goes on about how optimized the distribution is for the intel pentiums and all that. I hope they do keep thier alpha development though, because us in the alphalinux world, running 64 bit right now instead of waiting for Merced or whatever lame name Intel has for it now, could always use more choice to make the distros better and better. Works the same as the 32bit world, just quicker :)
Screw IDE, gimme a 20k rpm u2w scsi drive, and some cheesy poofs. And make it big too. That would be nice, least thats where I hope they are going with these things.
Although, setting the first ethernet device to default to DHCP sounds like a good convention.
I can think of quiet a few situations where that might not be the best idea. Granted they are all server type configs where its unlikely someone is going to be installing corel. It is a good idea, and could make things easier for newbies, but I prefer an install that lets me get as much stuff done at once, as in customizing the system for how I want it and the like, I don't want to have to wait through and install and then undo alot of the stuff it does, its a waste of my time.
The day I see a microsoft linux I will die of the irony. I wonder if thier alpha version would be a crappy hack like the rest of thier alpha programs are.
Oh but what an alley it is. We really DO need some kinda /. party here, i mean come on, New York is a major metropolis, we have geeks. We must be able to get some kinda party going. hey, Maybe rob + company should take thier party on the road, that'd be great, hit all the major cities just having one big geek partyfest.
My alpha runs at 666....and the machine name is goat. A coincidence? You be the judge. :) MUAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHA Seriously, I love my alpha but it will be nice to hopefully finally get some developers for it considering merced will make most developers atleast think about 64 bit, and that will make moving apps to the alpha much less of a pain.
Wow, can't wait for that, hell, 2.3 TB (approx) of storage for $35 works for me. Oh, and I am REALLY waiting on the Intel Downstream processor. hehehhe, yeah, maybe they can get it out almost as quickly as they can ship merced...naaa, I'll stick with my alpha. BTW, for all you people who usually don't read the article, this and the followup are going to be ones you might want to check out.
They are extremely different types of movies, one played off of the tradition american sentimentality for soldiers lost in a war. The other scared the living sh*t out of me and everyone else who was in the theatre that friday night. No one even got up for a good minute after the lights went on. If you ask me it came directly from it being the opening night (sometimes its nice to be in manhatten), no one really knew what to expect, and atleast i hadn't heard that much hype about the movie at that time.
With saving private ryan you knew that there was going to be a happy ending or atleast happy enough, with the BWP no one knew what was coming until they turned on the lights.
(Note, most Americans might think it wierd to bitch that you can't drive 75 MPH all the time, but that's California.) Not really, from what I drove in chicago people go 85 or so until they hit traffic and then sit still for 30 minutes and repeat. It sucks, and there is no reason for it. I hope these guys get around to doing chi town soon, we sure as hell could use it.
I think how much you know about the movie contributes a great deal to how scared you are by it. I saw it in New York on its first release day, I believe it was Friday a week ago. I was walking down the street next to the theatre and one of the people coming out said it was the scariest movie he had ever seen, and that he was NOT going to see it again no matter what.
After hearing something like that I had to see it, I got in line and bought my tickets for the only show availible, 12:30am. As for how much I knew about the movie my brother (the true movie affictionado) had told me only the little 3 film students go off in the woods bit. I went in thinking it was real. Left thinking it was real, and didn't sleep until 5am when the sun was nice and up. I dislike horror movies because they are usually filled with bad lines and gore and just not funny. This was different. I've done a good deal of camping. Thinking about the movie now I think it did a great job suspending the reality, why didn't they follor the stream? how did they carry all of josh's gear? How come they didn't bring a signalling mirror/more food...etc. But leaving the theatre I wasn't thinking about that. I was still haunted by the last few images of the movie, and I live in the city. If I were even close to a forested area I'd have been scared shitless. See the movie, thats all I have to say, well acted and scary.
Only if you are American traveling on a British Airways flight with an Australian stewardess taking off from Toronto. Isn't international politics fun?
It could be even more simple than that. We all need to eat the last time I checked, and you don't eat if you don't get paid. That and some people really don't have any morals and can just be bought.
it's just a simple fact that whoever develops something first and claims it gets to reap the benefits and call the shots.
:)
Thats a great point, I don't know much, but from what it looks like, the us contols a good chunck of the satilite space, just by the virtue that we put up a good number of them before anyone else ( I know technically the USSR had the first satilite) If we want to continue this leadership in space, and maybe even in technology in general we need to give nasa more money to do cool but useful things, like build telescopes, try and land someone on mars, figure out what the deal is with pluto. There is nothing wrong with "pure" science, because all of these missions involve a great deal of advancement of current technologies that will eventually filter down into the market. Velcro anyone?
When corporate america is SO detemined to stay ahead of its competitors, both national and international, I can't believe they are short sighted enough not to see how having nasa do the research on new ideas/concepts/designs will save them money and let them get products out much faster.
Making cuts in the space program is probably one of the worst idea's someone in congress has had in a long time. Cutting the space program will most certainly affect the technology that we can produce in the long term, short term there will probably be very few effects, but maybe 15 or 20 years from now, thats when we will start to see the effects of elimintating pure science research for short term make money fast schemes.
Maybe we need ids for even youger children.
Thats a brilliant idea. Actually we could just give the entire country id cards, and then it would never be a problem knowing who someone was, what blood type, thier fingerprints, thier dna, what they like on thier pizza, what they were doing last tuesday when someone valdalized that wall. Oh and ofcourse all of this information would not only be for sale for more personalized spam, but we could ask to check someone's id at any time because if they either didn't have one or refused to show it they must have something to hide. RIGHT. How about we let the parents do the parenting, businesses make money and provide the services, and government keep the business inline and make sure no one infringes on my well being.
Sorry for the rant, but damn if i don't feel better now.
I thought he was joking....about time for that second cup of coffee. Yeah, last time i checked we all carry our fingerprints around with us everywhere, the difference being that currently there is no quick way for law enforcement to check them. ie, they have to haul us down to the station for some BS like a broken tail light, then print us, and then scan them in, and then search that big huge database and all that. Anyways, the whole fingerprints on license thing would work great in places where lots of people drive, like the west coast, and the more rural parts of the country, but here in manhatten I don't see this as being AS effective at numbering, catagorizing, and filing away every person, just becuase not that many people drive, and thus probably don't have drivers licenses. I know I don't.
Thats more been my experience with UPS, they have lost multiple packages comeing to my house, and its not like I live in the middle of nowhere, almost the exact opposite, there is a ups shipping center about 15 minutes from my house, outside of chicago. Granted the USPS might not have the tracking, but they've never lost and then taken 4 weeks to get my pII 450 replaced.
I'd rather have 5 or 6 written letter from someone I care about than 100 worthless e-mails. Letters have an intrinsic value that will never be matched by e-mail. I can't but a value on the letter, maybe its the smell, or the thought that they did take the time to hand write the letter, and that they spent that much time thinking about me, and what they were going to say. If I want to send something meaningful to someone I care about I sure as hell don't use e-mail. It may take a little longer, and it may cost a few cents more, but in the end I think the feeling delivered by a physical, hand written letter are more effective than a little bit of e-mail.
I'm sorry, I just couldn't take it any longer.
GET OVER IT
I hate to tell you but intel is not the first manufacturer to put serial numbers on thier chips, the high end workstation chip makers have been doing it for a while, and in a market where people were smart enough to understand the reasons. Granted, saying it was for privacy or crypto or whatever thier line was is BS, but a chip with a retrievable serial number does have some valid uses.
Everyone is talking like it will be the end of the world and how they are going to boycott intel because of this, well shit, if thats why you are going to boycott intel then you have really not been paying attention recently.
I don't buy intel for the simple reason that I can get better performance else where (ie the alpha). They may cost a little more, but probably no where near as much as people think they cost.
Well nothing interesting besides give them a 100 million dollars. Granted its not all linux, but it is on the alpha so its not a bad thing.
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On this point I hope everything is true, if choosing a processor becomes a no brainer then where is the innovation? For too long intel has had that lock on the desktop market and look at what its done, as you said, milked the original ppro architecture for as long as possible. Where when you look at the workstation market the performance is amazing, and grows in leaps and bounds. I haven't been watching the higher class workstation/server market long enough to know if this has been true for a long time, or just recently, but in either case hp's pa-risc is pushing the alpha to new hights and the reverse is also true, and also the sparc is included in all of this. Basically it should only lead to good things for fast processors.
And McKinley is going to get a nice ass whooping by the 21364 or even the 21464 alphas. I have more trust in Compaq/Samsung/API than Intel. Especially now that we are going to see IBM helping to make copper alpha's this could be a good time. The alpha has always had the speed advantage over most other platforms, the only exception being hp's pa-risc that it occasionally shares the top slot with, but since hp is dropping that to make the McKinley crap there really isn't any cause to worry.
Because alot of code re-writing/re-compiling is going to be going on, and because everything will have to be moved to 64 bit hopefully we might even see more apps supporting the alpha, not only open source, but closed source commercial stuff, which as much as we all hate it, is necessary for some things.
Long Live the Alpha.
as I think I saw in someone's sig,
Intel is the question, Alpha is the answer.
and we care because...? I love the athlon and all, but the alpha already can do 1ghz, at room temperature with no extra cooling. That just blows everything else out of the water, including the most recent vaporware crap from intel. Isn't this obvious? They are trying to kill the buzz about the K7 by saying they might finally almost possibly be close to thinking about making merced. Gimme a break, I'll stick with my alpha thank you very much.
I'm sorry to all of you who haven't seen Army of Darkness and obviously missed the reference, which is what the reply was all about anyways. Your might wanna see it, its a funny movie, with a bunch of great one liners, a good number of which duke nukem stole in duke 3d. So basically back off, it was a movie quote that you didn't get.
Little off topic but I love the army of darkness quote.
so you think we are free? yeah, and I'm a chinese jet pilot.