Your view is that advertising costs money, it is wrong. Advertising saves money to all involved. It increases the ability to be efficient.
It is like saying buying a power saw to replace a hand saw "costs" money, is true when taken out of context and left by itself. However, when one measures how much more efficient one is with a power tool than with a hand tool, able to cut more wood, more precisely, the cost of NOT doing it is much greater than the cost of the item being purchased. Advertising is exactly the same thing.
My point is that while it does "cost", the efficiencies are greater and therefore the "cost" is irrelevant.
360 was also a close approximation of the year (365) and quite easily divisible as well, corresponding as a close approximation for a lunar month by the divisor of 12 (12x30). Additionally, a "season" was 1/4 of the year, meaning approximately 3 months. A week was approximately 1/4 of a month (4 x 7). When you realize that we are going from "close approximation" to "highly precise" you'll realize that these things start to look silly on the micro scale we're measuring now. However, to a nomadic/agrarian society, these measurements sufficed and quite nicely, especially when you consider that these people rarely exceeded 100 travel (radius) from their homes.
I imagine that something like, "I'll meet you at that mountain, three days after the harvest full moon", was the "time keeping" of that day. It was an era of a more simple lifestyle.
Wouldn't a 300BPS acoustic Modem qualify as Prior art, other than the "content from another source". I'm asking, because the "other source" shouldn't really matter... should it?
And, while I'm thinking about it, should the "acoustic" be key part, shouldn't this be abstracted more? If the abstracted version of the process is common, why would the specifics be granted, especially since this is all abstract in the first place?
Except in the wonderful genre of PORN! Where there is usually just enough dialogue to get to the "scene" of importance. And people pay huge money to watch porn and not for the dialogue.
In many types of markets, if you don't advertise, you go out of business, even if your prices are less than you competitors. The simple fact, that IF you take away ALL adverts, chances of you being able to make a "name" for yourself(product) is none. Your chances of expanding your business is none. The chances of failure is all but assured.
And then there is the scale of things. IF you sell one widget at $10 per time period, and that is all you will ever sell on "word of mouth" advertizing, and you make $1 on that widget, you've made $1. However, if you mark the price up $1 and now sell three, you're $1 better off than not marking the price up, and selling less. Now, because you sell three, your cost to develop the widget is spread across three widgets lowering that cost on each widget, earning you another $1. And because you have to have a new process, that can make three, you become more efficient and earn another $1 across the three. Now if you conntinue, you can lower the price to $10, and still earn more, even while spending on advertizing.
Advertizing is about breaking down the economies of scale barrier, as much as anything. While my example is overly simplistic, and illustrative only, it does give the reason why advertizing is important, and shouldn't be studied in a vacuum. The problem with overly simplistic examples, like yours, is that they don't cover the reasons people need and should be advertizing.
Lastly, if your competitors are advertizing and you're not, you're going to be out of business, and rather quickly. They will get your business, and make more money. My view, advertizing, if done right, is at best a necessary evil, it allows new products to gain markets they wouldn't normally get. Let say, you're on Sprint, AT&T or Verizon, and T-Mobile suddenly stopped advertizing, and lowered their prices by $5/ mo (15%), but didn't tell anyone. Do you think they would succeed in making you switch (all other things equal)?? The others are advertizing all the newest coolest phones, and T-Mobile isn't saying a word, how do you know what phones T-Mo has, their prices or whatnot?
Yes, there are rare exceptions to this (see Apple iPad for example) where a product takes off better than wildest dreams could hope for, and everyone involved are shocked.
Actually, I suggest we use UTC based system where everyone actually uses the same 24 hour clock. Yeah, some people have days change in the middle of the day, rather than at midnight but... that is the price of progress
But Intentions are all that counts. Not results. Unless we need to get better results from under performing, then it means we need more money (but the results don't matter even then)
I am neither (D) nor (R), and I don't think this issue is a (D) or (R) issue. I think it is a "government power" issue, and I don't like it. We have local police and sheriffs for enforcing the law. National Guard (state) for handling bigger emergancies. The US government is not law enforcement, except FEDERAL laws.
Hijacked airplanes are not what the drones will be targeting, we have Military Aircraft, manned aircraft, for that purpose. Drone usage in the US will be targeting Civilians, make no mistake about it. THERE is no other pressing need of the government to have drones flying over Sovereign US soil other than controlling the citizenry, and I find that completely unwarranted.
There is NO case scenario where I find drone usage by the Federal Government against any citizen on US soil acceptable. Period. And that includes "hijacked aircraft" (no US citizen has hijacked an aircraft in 30 + years in the US, December 21, 1978). The US has had ONE Hijacking attempt per decade that last three decades. If you accept that drones are needed to protect us from Hijacked aircraft, you're delusional as it isn't really a risk.
I can imagine a lot of things, doesn't mean they are likely. Drones and Armored Cars can be disabled with civilian police equipment. Nukes are an act of war, and requires an external entity, as I doubt a single US citizen can build a working nuke by himself.
Actually, I find the retarded level of both (D) and (R) politicians in DC to be about equal, and dependent upon how long they have been in office. The time spent in DC increases the retardedness of both sides of the isle equally. Unfortunately you've been blinded by the (D) good, (R) bad bug, in that you fail to see that they are equally evil and retarded.
And because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean that the discussion is over, it just means you're incapable of having a discussion like an adult. WAHHHH, take your ball and run home to mommy.
Well, compare this to the Obama doctrine of threatening US citizens on US Soil, while coddling Dictators and Terrorists... yeah, both are bad, just one is worse.
People ARE making excuses, not saying it is "OK" per se, but rather that it is OK because of Obama would never be like GWB. IMHO he has been much much worse, because he gets a pass (ignored by) from all the media (except Faux) for policy problems. Hey Look Tiger Woods and Beyonce!
Yeah, Obama could, using Holder's logic, dropped a kill strike on Manning, without any other provocation given the quoted text. You think that is good for America?
Or are you being deliberately obtuse because I'm pointing out that your Dear Leader (Obama) is a dictator in waiting?
So, buy "using word games" you mean you want "increase" to mean "cut" when you don't get the "increase" you wish for?
They are not "CUTS" to anyone except Washington DC Political hacks and Low Information Voters.
And I don't care if Government workers have to take a "cut" in pay, because so have I and a whole lot of people, including all those who are unemployed or under employed. IF they don't like the job, they can quit, and find a private sector job that pays more (hahaha). Times are tough, government workers need to STFU and suck it up like the rest of us.
I'll argue against wasteful spending all day long, and explain that one golf trip could save the pay of 1000 Government workers, but that wouldn't matter to you (drop in the bucket). Or the Holidays in Hawaii, Vail, Florida..... or the perpetual AF1 trips to campaign against the Constitution or....
Is that a drone I hear overhead?
In other words, I don't have any sympothy to people whining about their cushy Federal Jobs or the doom and gloom predicted by Obama that will never manifest because... well they aren't cutting anything, except the rate of growth. Baseline budgeting is "word games" where "cuts" really mean "growth, but not as much as we want".
Because, (D) good (R) Bad (or Visa Versa). That's why. In this case, if this was GWB, it would be bad, but since it is Obama, it is okay. Just look through the post on this thread to see plenty of (D)s saying it is okay because it is a (D) president. It is shocking.
If an American is giving information, or aiding the enemy, and if it's ion hostile soil, and if the military can't get a team to the person to capture them, and we can't work out something for the local military/police to take action, then we can use a drone.
I cannot wait till there are no more customers because everyone has had six strikes. Let them have their six strikes. The only way to win is not to play their games.
Assholes are assholes. You can't write every law to deal with assholes, because they live on the edge. The only thing assholes understand is getting their asses kicked, and there are actual laws against that. Assholes depend on the laws to protect them, but skirt the laws every chance they get, that is why they are assholes. Fuckem, I have no sympathy when assholes get their Karma fulfilled.
So, by "budget cuts" you mean "growing budgets, just not as fast as we'd like", then yeah, we are in agreement. Baseline Budgeting is horrible paradigm and leads to inefficiencies, since no program has to fight for its existence, and all programs are treated as equal. Which is why Obama likes to say crazy things like he has over the last month or so about how budget growth limits is going to be Armageddon. Meanwhile his little romp with Tiger Woods and Michelle's expensive vacations could offset some of those cuts. But he chose those instead of helping Special Ed Kids and grandma from going hungry.
You mean, like the (D) blaming (R) for sequestration, when the reality is it is just as much his (Obama's) fault as anyone else's? All the "EVIL (R) want to pollute the air, and push grandma down a flight of stairs and kill puppies and eat kittens" crap isn't? I mean, did you hear Maxine Waters last week saying that Sequestration will cost 178 Million Jobs (or whatever she said) ? What the hell do you call that? Honest error or stupidity?
The board's job is oversight so that the C's don't run the company down. It is their sole job in fact. So, if they are not doing the job they are being paid for (by shareholders) then they should be tossed in jail for complicity.
Yeah, I would love to see both of those. I'd also like to see a bunch of other worthless programs expire so we don't have to keep threatening Grandma and her "special needs" grandkid with "Draconian budget cuts"* ** (* cuts in growth, not actual cuts) (** less than 2% cut in growth), and all the other mind numbing scare tactics and blame the (R) rhetoric coming out of the regime in DC.
Seriously, does anyone other than Low Information Voters believe the shit coming out of Obama's Mouth lately? Hell, even some of them have got to catch a clue when the world doesn't end on March 1st like Obama promised.
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Your view is that advertising costs money, it is wrong. Advertising saves money to all involved. It increases the ability to be efficient.
It is like saying buying a power saw to replace a hand saw "costs" money, is true when taken out of context and left by itself. However, when one measures how much more efficient one is with a power tool than with a hand tool, able to cut more wood, more precisely, the cost of NOT doing it is much greater than the cost of the item being purchased. Advertising is exactly the same thing.
My point is that while it does "cost", the efficiencies are greater and therefore the "cost" is irrelevant.
360 was also a close approximation of the year (365) and quite easily divisible as well, corresponding as a close approximation for a lunar month by the divisor of 12 (12x30). Additionally, a "season" was 1/4 of the year, meaning approximately 3 months. A week was approximately 1/4 of a month (4 x 7). When you realize that we are going from "close approximation" to "highly precise" you'll realize that these things start to look silly on the micro scale we're measuring now. However, to a nomadic/agrarian society, these measurements sufficed and quite nicely, especially when you consider that these people rarely exceeded 100 travel (radius) from their homes.
I imagine that something like, "I'll meet you at that mountain, three days after the harvest full moon", was the "time keeping" of that day. It was an era of a more simple lifestyle.
Wouldn't a 300BPS acoustic Modem qualify as Prior art, other than the "content from another source". I'm asking, because the "other source" shouldn't really matter ... should it?
And, while I'm thinking about it, should the "acoustic" be key part, shouldn't this be abstracted more? If the abstracted version of the process is common, why would the specifics be granted, especially since this is all abstract in the first place?
Except in the wonderful genre of PORN! Where there is usually just enough dialogue to get to the "scene" of importance. And people pay huge money to watch porn and not for the dialogue.
Or ...so I'm told .. ahem
OMG, I wish I had Mod Points. THIS!
In many types of markets, if you don't advertise, you go out of business, even if your prices are less than you competitors. The simple fact, that IF you take away ALL adverts, chances of you being able to make a "name" for yourself(product) is none. Your chances of expanding your business is none. The chances of failure is all but assured.
And then there is the scale of things. IF you sell one widget at $10 per time period, and that is all you will ever sell on "word of mouth" advertizing, and you make $1 on that widget, you've made $1. However, if you mark the price up $1 and now sell three, you're $1 better off than not marking the price up, and selling less. Now, because you sell three, your cost to develop the widget is spread across three widgets lowering that cost on each widget, earning you another $1. And because you have to have a new process, that can make three, you become more efficient and earn another $1 across the three. Now if you conntinue, you can lower the price to $10, and still earn more, even while spending on advertizing.
Advertizing is about breaking down the economies of scale barrier, as much as anything. While my example is overly simplistic, and illustrative only, it does give the reason why advertizing is important, and shouldn't be studied in a vacuum. The problem with overly simplistic examples, like yours, is that they don't cover the reasons people need and should be advertizing.
Lastly, if your competitors are advertizing and you're not, you're going to be out of business, and rather quickly. They will get your business, and make more money. My view, advertizing, if done right, is at best a necessary evil, it allows new products to gain markets they wouldn't normally get. Let say, you're on Sprint, AT&T or Verizon, and T-Mobile suddenly stopped advertizing, and lowered their prices by $5/ mo (15%), but didn't tell anyone. Do you think they would succeed in making you switch (all other things equal)?? The others are advertizing all the newest coolest phones, and T-Mobile isn't saying a word, how do you know what phones T-Mo has, their prices or whatnot?
Yes, there are rare exceptions to this (see Apple iPad for example) where a product takes off better than wildest dreams could hope for, and everyone involved are shocked.
Actually, I suggest we use UTC based system where everyone actually uses the same 24 hour clock. Yeah, some people have days change in the middle of the day, rather than at midnight but ... that is the price of progress
What oil is in Afghanistan?
But Intentions are all that counts. Not results. Unless we need to get better results from under performing, then it means we need more money (but the results don't matter even then)
Compare these two things.
Hulu/Netflx Subscription with buying / renting DVD/BLURAY of things you would like to watch not available on TV
VS
Cable TV (or SAT) package that has "most" of the stuff you want to watch and still supplementing with DVD/BLURAY purchases/rentals.
The $100/mo cable plan looks really expensive just to get a few shows on Premier night and the few live events you're interested in.
I am neither (D) nor (R), and I don't think this issue is a (D) or (R) issue. I think it is a "government power" issue, and I don't like it. We have local police and sheriffs for enforcing the law. National Guard (state) for handling bigger emergancies. The US government is not law enforcement, except FEDERAL laws.
Hijacked airplanes are not what the drones will be targeting, we have Military Aircraft, manned aircraft, for that purpose. Drone usage in the US will be targeting Civilians, make no mistake about it. THERE is no other pressing need of the government to have drones flying over Sovereign US soil other than controlling the citizenry, and I find that completely unwarranted.
There is NO case scenario where I find drone usage by the Federal Government against any citizen on US soil acceptable. Period. And that includes "hijacked aircraft" (no US citizen has hijacked an aircraft in 30 + years in the US, December 21, 1978). The US has had ONE Hijacking attempt per decade that last three decades. If you accept that drones are needed to protect us from Hijacked aircraft, you're delusional as it isn't really a risk.
I can imagine a lot of things, doesn't mean they are likely. Drones and Armored Cars can be disabled with civilian police equipment. Nukes are an act of war, and requires an external entity, as I doubt a single US citizen can build a working nuke by himself.
Actually, I find the retarded level of both (D) and (R) politicians in DC to be about equal, and dependent upon how long they have been in office. The time spent in DC increases the retardedness of both sides of the isle equally. Unfortunately you've been blinded by the (D) good, (R) bad bug, in that you fail to see that they are equally evil and retarded.
And because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean that the discussion is over, it just means you're incapable of having a discussion like an adult. WAHHHH, take your ball and run home to mommy.
Yeah, but is it as bad as Obama making up lies about Sequestration cuts, being dutifully reported by the rest of MSM like MSNBC?
Well, compare this to the Obama doctrine of threatening US citizens on US Soil, while coddling Dictators and Terrorists ... yeah, both are bad, just one is worse.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3522531&cid=43098503
People ARE making excuses, not saying it is "OK" per se, but rather that it is OK because of Obama would never be like GWB. IMHO he has been much much worse, because he gets a pass (ignored by) from all the media (except Faux) for policy problems. Hey Look Tiger Woods and Beyonce!
Yeah, Obama could, using Holder's logic, dropped a kill strike on Manning, without any other provocation given the quoted text. You think that is good for America?
Or are you being deliberately obtuse because I'm pointing out that your Dear Leader (Obama) is a dictator in waiting?
So, buy "using word games" you mean you want "increase" to mean "cut" when you don't get the "increase" you wish for?
They are not "CUTS" to anyone except Washington DC Political hacks and Low Information Voters.
And I don't care if Government workers have to take a "cut" in pay, because so have I and a whole lot of people, including all those who are unemployed or under employed. IF they don't like the job, they can quit, and find a private sector job that pays more (hahaha). Times are tough, government workers need to STFU and suck it up like the rest of us.
I'll argue against wasteful spending all day long, and explain that one golf trip could save the pay of 1000 Government workers, but that wouldn't matter to you (drop in the bucket). Or the Holidays in Hawaii, Vail, Florida ..... or the perpetual AF1 trips to campaign against the Constitution or ....
Is that a drone I hear overhead?
In other words, I don't have any sympothy to people whining about their cushy Federal Jobs or the doom and gloom predicted by Obama that will never manifest because ... well they aren't cutting anything, except the rate of growth. Baseline budgeting is "word games" where "cuts" really mean "growth, but not as much as we want".
Because, (D) good (R) Bad (or Visa Versa). That's why. In this case, if this was GWB, it would be bad, but since it is Obama, it is okay. Just look through the post on this thread to see plenty of (D)s saying it is okay because it is a (D) president. It is shocking.
If an American is giving information, or aiding the enemy, and if it's ion hostile soil, and if the military can't get a team to the person to capture them, and we can't work out something for the local military/police to take action, then we can use a drone.
Bradley Manning.
Nuff Said.
I cannot wait till there are no more customers because everyone has had six strikes. Let them have their six strikes. The only way to win is not to play their games.
Assholes are assholes. You can't write every law to deal with assholes, because they live on the edge. The only thing assholes understand is getting their asses kicked, and there are actual laws against that. Assholes depend on the laws to protect them, but skirt the laws every chance they get, that is why they are assholes. Fuckem, I have no sympathy when assholes get their Karma fulfilled.
So, by "budget cuts" you mean "growing budgets, just not as fast as we'd like", then yeah, we are in agreement. Baseline Budgeting is horrible paradigm and leads to inefficiencies, since no program has to fight for its existence, and all programs are treated as equal. Which is why Obama likes to say crazy things like he has over the last month or so about how budget growth limits is going to be Armageddon. Meanwhile his little romp with Tiger Woods and Michelle's expensive vacations could offset some of those cuts. But he chose those instead of helping Special Ed Kids and grandma from going hungry.
You mean, like the (D) blaming (R) for sequestration, when the reality is it is just as much his (Obama's) fault as anyone else's? All the "EVIL (R) want to pollute the air, and push grandma down a flight of stairs and kill puppies and eat kittens" crap isn't? I mean, did you hear Maxine Waters last week saying that Sequestration will cost 178 Million Jobs (or whatever she said) ? What the hell do you call that? Honest error or stupidity?
The board's job is oversight so that the C's don't run the company down. It is their sole job in fact. So, if they are not doing the job they are being paid for (by shareholders) then they should be tossed in jail for complicity.
Yeah, I would love to see both of those. I'd also like to see a bunch of other worthless programs expire so we don't have to keep threatening Grandma and her "special needs" grandkid with "Draconian budget cuts"* ** (* cuts in growth, not actual cuts) (** less than 2% cut in growth), and all the other mind numbing scare tactics and blame the (R) rhetoric coming out of the regime in DC.
Seriously, does anyone other than Low Information Voters believe the shit coming out of Obama's Mouth lately? Hell, even some of them have got to catch a clue when the world doesn't end on March 1st like Obama promised.