I would even add that nobody is thinking beyond the two people being "married", is very short sighted. There are cases where the two women get "pregnant" and have a kid. The kid naturally bonds with one "Mom" more than the other "mom". There is further complication when the one "Mom" dies, and the other "mom" has to care for the child, knowing that the kid bonded with the other.
This is NOT trivial. It may be "rare" but it isn't trivial. We have all sorts of laws in place because of exceptions to rules that nobody thought through.
One further note, I don't know why Government is even involved in marriage, which is a sacred (religious) institution, not a civil one. The ONLY reason the state is involved now, harkens back to Rome and the Roman Church being functionally one. Personally I'd like the state out of declaring anything "holy" (including holidays)!
I want all Athiest government employees to work 7/365, without regard to any "holiday". I want mail on Sunday, and Christmas!
People have long taken for granted religious institutions in civil law. Including prohibiting polygamy, which has more status than Homosexual Marriage throughout history!
Sometimes, just sometimes, system admins are required to run things in spite of the fact that the systems are insecure. Typically, Sys Admins aren't the ones doing the system purchases or making the decisions on what systems to run. And sometimes, penny pinching tightwad beancounters make the decisions and those decisions don't include things like anti-virus, system backups and all the other things that would help mitigate against such problems.
Sometimes the idiots who you speak of aren't really idiots, just handcuffed by pointy haired bosses.
I didn't think I was being harsh on Obama. In fact, he hasn't done anything yet, except appoint people to various positions.
My original post said he is getting a "pass" by the media and popular opinion for picks and a few of them aren't all that stellar.
My point was, all things being equal, if BHO was an (R), I'm sure that we'd have a new appointment for Treasury Secretary by now (and probably rightfully so).
I'm just tired of the overlooking of the double standards by everyone (they all do it, or so it seems)
I'm no fan of GWB presidency. I have to say, that I like Clinton's presidency better than GWB's. Not that I like Clinton, but he was certainly better. But that isn't saying very much, is it?
I'd rank GWB's presidency right down next to Carter's. I'm not even going to figure out which one is worse, because they both SUCK.
As for "them stupid Republicans" being a joke, the real joke is all those people who think (R) bad (D) good (or visa versa). The real joke is that we keep electing them, as if we have no other choice.
He is going to break just about every one of his campaign promises. He has to, there will be almost no chance that most of his promises will come to fruition.
When people break, or cannot (for whatever reason) keep a campaign promise, will the electorate hold them accountable? My guess is that Obama will get "pass" on many of his broken campaign promises.
The question I have, when is the press, and electorate going to start asking tougher questions during the primary and national election cycles. I'd love to have this question asked of EVERY candidate... "WHEN you break your campaign promises, what should the response of the press and electorate be?"
Answers to THAT question would be very telling.
The thing that pisses me off every election cycle is that the stupid politicians make stupid promises and the stupid press and the stupid electorate always ignore the stupid promises nobody believes the politician will ever keep.
Two parts to the complain, one is on Verizon (do they support Mac and not Linux???). Which isn't Linux or even Ubuntu's fault. In fact, I suspect that if Verizon gave the specs for their device to Linux community, there would be a driver and management software available within a couple of days. No development costs to Verizon at all, and I'm sure they would get all sorts of "attaboys" from the Linux community.
Second part is Word isn't needed to type papers. In fact, if I were Professor at a big U, I wouldn't accept.doc files. Print it, or submit in an open standard. Hell, I'd probably require them to be.txt just so people would have to focus on content, and not on making it "pretty".
And by "they", I mean the people who don't know what the 14th amendment says. My point was about "education" and the state of it today in the US.
If I were in charge, I'd require a full semester of US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and other important founding documents of our nation, before one could graduate from HS.
And while we are at it, why don't we have a HS diploma requirement for voting?
If you ever want to shut them up, ask them why they don't keep seventh day sabbath. Then when they tell you their answer, use that to dismiss all the verses they tend to used against people.
We're already seeing the pass being given on some of Obama's poor decisions and the "vetting" of cabinet members. His record hasn't been that stellar so far.
Yeah, but the people only complain when it is used against policies they don't like, and never when it is a policy they support.
You see, when the "left" does it, it has to be "okay" because it is in the best interest of their "people" but if the "right" does the exact same thing... then it is PURE EVIL!!!!
Oh, and before the lefties go nuts, the RIGHT has the exact same problem. Both sides are hypocrites, and without priniciples; willing to set aside stated values when it serves their goals.
"I can get uptimes of months" is diametrically opposed to "OS updates"
Patch Tuesday and the various out of band patch releases, predicates that at best you can get is about 1 month between updates, IF you apply patches when they are released.
Now if you don't apply patches when they are released, but wait "months" before apply them, then all bets are off, because at that point reboot cycles becomes arbitrary.
Many hardware installs on windows require "reboot" as well.
I wonder if you'd feel the same way about Bill Clinton's video tape of Monica giving him a BJ while on the phone with a foreign dignitary, especially after he shook his finger at America and said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky".
The whole rant of the left about "Bush lied, people died" crap is just a smoke screen. If lying is bad, it doesn't matter what the result is. Pointing to someone else's wrong is not an excuse for the wrongs you do.
Oh, BTW, There is more evidence that Clinton lied about many many more things than Bush. Bad intellegence is not lying, shaking your finger and parsing legal definitions at America is. "It all depends on what the definition of is... is".
Not that I'm a fan of GWB, because I'm not. That is not my point. GWB is an idiot. I have no use for the guy. I just think he is too stupid to lie like Clinton could.
The looney left is confounded by GWB, because at the one hand, they claim he's an idiot, and on the other hand, quite brilliant. Perhaps maybe they should call GWB the Idiot Savant!
What you described is the difference between skill and talent.
Any monkey can type, but it takes talent to create a work of literature worth reading. A thousand monkeys cannot duplicate the work created by a single author.
That being said, an talent can always be improved by learning new skills. Michelangelo and the other great artists of his time, weren't good at just one artform. They excelled at many: Painting, sculpting. They picked up additional skills to use their talent.
Talented people will always be remembered for their talent.
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I would even add that nobody is thinking beyond the two people being "married", is very short sighted. There are cases where the two women get "pregnant" and have a kid. The kid naturally bonds with one "Mom" more than the other "mom". There is further complication when the one "Mom" dies, and the other "mom" has to care for the child, knowing that the kid bonded with the other.
This is NOT trivial. It may be "rare" but it isn't trivial. We have all sorts of laws in place because of exceptions to rules that nobody thought through.
One further note, I don't know why Government is even involved in marriage, which is a sacred (religious) institution, not a civil one. The ONLY reason the state is involved now, harkens back to Rome and the Roman Church being functionally one. Personally I'd like the state out of declaring anything "holy" (including holidays)!
I want all Athiest government employees to work 7/365, without regard to any "holiday". I want mail on Sunday, and Christmas!
People have long taken for granted religious institutions in civil law. Including prohibiting polygamy, which has more status than Homosexual Marriage throughout history!
So, it isn't about defining marriage.
Sometimes, just sometimes, system admins are required to run things in spite of the fact that the systems are insecure. Typically, Sys Admins aren't the ones doing the system purchases or making the decisions on what systems to run. And sometimes, penny pinching tightwad beancounters make the decisions and those decisions don't include things like anti-virus, system backups and all the other things that would help mitigate against such problems.
Sometimes the idiots who you speak of aren't really idiots, just handcuffed by pointy haired bosses.
I didn't think I was being harsh on Obama. In fact, he hasn't done anything yet, except appoint people to various positions.
My original post said he is getting a "pass" by the media and popular opinion for picks and a few of them aren't all that stellar.
My point was, all things being equal, if BHO was an (R), I'm sure that we'd have a new appointment for Treasury Secretary by now (and probably rightfully so).
I'm just tired of the overlooking of the double standards by everyone (they all do it, or so it seems)
You're absolutely right. However, pretty is often used to obfuscate poor information and organization.
Which was more towards my point.
I'm no fan of GWB presidency. I have to say, that I like Clinton's presidency better than GWB's. Not that I like Clinton, but he was certainly better. But that isn't saying very much, is it?
I'd rank GWB's presidency right down next to Carter's. I'm not even going to figure out which one is worse, because they both SUCK.
As for "them stupid Republicans" being a joke, the real joke is all those people who think (R) bad (D) good (or visa versa). The real joke is that we keep electing them, as if we have no other choice.
He is going to break just about every one of his campaign promises. He has to, there will be almost no chance that most of his promises will come to fruition.
When people break, or cannot (for whatever reason) keep a campaign promise, will the electorate hold them accountable? My guess is that Obama will get "pass" on many of his broken campaign promises.
The question I have, when is the press, and electorate going to start asking tougher questions during the primary and national election cycles. I'd love to have this question asked of EVERY candidate ... "WHEN you break your campaign promises, what should the response of the press and electorate be?"
Answers to THAT question would be very telling.
The thing that pisses me off every election cycle is that the stupid politicians make stupid promises and the stupid press and the stupid electorate always ignore the stupid promises nobody believes the politician will ever keep.
"dumb republicans. :-)"
You are being redundant.
How's that for unpartisan?
Yeah, but you forget, some presidents are more historic than other*
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*Animal Farm reference for those not into political fiction.
I wish I had mod points. (+1) Insightful here
Two parts to the complain, one is on Verizon (do they support Mac and not Linux???). Which isn't Linux or even Ubuntu's fault. In fact, I suspect that if Verizon gave the specs for their device to Linux community, there would be a driver and management software available within a couple of days. No development costs to Verizon at all, and I'm sure they would get all sorts of "attaboys" from the Linux community.
Second part is Word isn't needed to type papers. In fact, if I were Professor at a big U, I wouldn't accept .doc files. Print it, or submit in an open standard. Hell, I'd probably require them to be .txt just so people would have to focus on content, and not on making it "pretty".
And by "they", I mean the people who don't know what the 14th amendment says. My point was about "education" and the state of it today in the US.
If I were in charge, I'd require a full semester of US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and other important founding documents of our nation, before one could graduate from HS.
And while we are at it, why don't we have a HS diploma requirement for voting?
You can blame the NEA and US Dept of Ed for that.
They think Welfare is a right, but guns aren't. Go figure.
If you ever want to shut them up, ask them why they don't keep seventh day sabbath. Then when they tell you their answer, use that to dismiss all the verses they tend to used against people.
Works every time.
B) Good Luck with that
We're already seeing the pass being given on some of Obama's poor decisions and the "vetting" of cabinet members. His record hasn't been that stellar so far.
Yeah, but the people only complain when it is used against policies they don't like, and never when it is a policy they support.
You see, when the "left" does it, it has to be "okay" because it is in the best interest of their "people" but if the "right" does the exact same thing ... then it is PURE EVIL!!!!
Oh, and before the lefties go nuts, the RIGHT has the exact same problem. Both sides are hypocrites, and without priniciples; willing to set aside stated values when it serves their goals.
"Think of a shark in its natural environment, a tour of a famous building, or even a re-enactment of a historical battle."
You just described "Sharks with lasers" ... I think
"I can get uptimes of months" is diametrically opposed to "OS updates"
Patch Tuesday and the various out of band patch releases, predicates that at best you can get is about 1 month between updates, IF you apply patches when they are released.
Now if you don't apply patches when they are released, but wait "months" before apply them, then all bets are off, because at that point reboot cycles becomes arbitrary.
Many hardware installs on windows require "reboot" as well.
Death Star Kills Astronaut
Silk Worms inherit Mars
(from the movie, Martian Park)
" Ideally this will bring transparency to citizens and inform them of their senators' & representatives' positions and ideas."
Good Luck with that!
I wonder if you'd feel the same way about Bill Clinton's video tape of Monica giving him a BJ while on the phone with a foreign dignitary, especially after he shook his finger at America and said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky".
The whole rant of the left about "Bush lied, people died" crap is just a smoke screen. If lying is bad, it doesn't matter what the result is. Pointing to someone else's wrong is not an excuse for the wrongs you do.
Oh, BTW, There is more evidence that Clinton lied about many many more things than Bush. Bad intellegence is not lying, shaking your finger and parsing legal definitions at America is. "It all depends on what the definition of is ... is".
Not that I'm a fan of GWB, because I'm not. That is not my point. GWB is an idiot. I have no use for the guy. I just think he is too stupid to lie like Clinton could.
The looney left is confounded by GWB, because at the one hand, they claim he's an idiot, and on the other hand, quite brilliant. Perhaps maybe they should call GWB the Idiot Savant!
You only say that because you have not realized .... sleep is overrated!
If you click "Parent" it opens up so you can see that it said ....
Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society?
Let me know when you find all of those monkeys ;)
What you described is the difference between skill and talent.
Any monkey can type, but it takes talent to create a work of literature worth reading. A thousand monkeys cannot duplicate the work created by a single author.
That being said, an talent can always be improved by learning new skills. Michelangelo and the other great artists of his time, weren't good at just one artform. They excelled at many: Painting, sculpting. They picked up additional skills to use their talent.
Talented people will always be remembered for their talent.
Apple? They've been going out of business for YEARS!!!
And why isn't SCO on that list? Isn't it about time they die already?