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Ricardo Montalban Dead At 88
DesScorp writes "Ricardo Montalban, immortalized as Khan in the Star Trek franchise, is dead at age 88, passing at his Los Angeles home. Montalban had a long and successful career on television and film. The voice of Rich Corinthian Leather is silenced, but we still have the memories."
KHAAAAAAAAAAAN!
No disrespect intended.. but I didn't know he was still alive!
Khan got the last laugh.
YEEAAAHHHH
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And here we were thinking he'd return in a later sequel. There is always CG I suppose.
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I hear Steven King is riding out till midnight in his Maine bunker.
And a dwarvish white angel points excitedly to the sky and calls out for the last time...
RIP and Amen.
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I'll always remember him as Armando from the third and fourth "Planet of the Apes" movies.
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Hi there, Fred!
This is a cover up. He was actually launched into space with other geneticaly enhanced humans on the SS Botany Bay, only to be picked up in a couple hundred years by James T. Kirk.
Another famous death today: Patrick McGoohan, of The Prisoner fame. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm
From Hell's heart, I stab at thee!
For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!
Priest: And thus spake the Great Devil Kahn at our saviour, The Kirk. Here endeth the lesson.
Congregation: More power to the engines!
WTF?!?! It never ceases to amaze me that religious zealots will twist anything into propaganda for their zeitgeist. Guess what.... maybe your wrong too. Dont believe EVERYTHING you read.
From Hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.
DeForest Kelley: Dead. James Doohan: Dead. Majel Barret: Dead. And now him.
Yet we have to endure that sword of Damocles that Shatner just might sing again.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Mr. Montalban was probably the most significant Latino in Star Trek. It's very interesting; in the original Star Trek, when we had all of this racial integration: Uhura being a significant black person, Sulu being a significant Asian, Chekov being a significant Russian, etc. However, the only real latino we had in Star Trek was Mr. Montalban, who was the antagonist in both Space Seed and its sequel, The Wrath of Kahn.
I remember, when The Wrath of Kahn came out, watching an interview with Mr. Montalban. He talked about how his success as an actor (he also had the very famous role as Mr. Roarke in Fantasy Island) made his role one of the first really successful Latino roles in Hollywood (There was also, before him, Desi Arnaz in I Love Lucy, whose success resulted in Desilu Productions who later on produced Star Trek). Of course, with such beautiful Latinas as Jessica Alba, Christina Aguilera, and Jennifer Lopez on the silver screen today, nobody thinks twice about a Latino having a title role, but it wasn't always that way.
At least now he won't be... buried alive!
And with his last breath, he stabs at thee for all these horrible one-liners.
#fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
That's awesome -- really awesome. If you ever wondered why such people are called trolls, you need only recall the parent posting. Who in his self-righteous mind hangs out on Slashdot? This guy must really have been living under a bridge, waiting for an opportunity like this.
Dude, I hope they have bridges in Hell.
quiquid id est, timeo puellas et oscula dantes.
Truly a sad day as Patrick McGoohan, "The Prisoner," "Secret Agent" among others, has also died . Sad, sad, sad.
and corinthian is not any kind of genuine special leather-- just a marketing name.
but he said it soooo well.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Ricardo Montalban dies. Steve Jobs takes leave of absence.
Hmmm... has anyone ever seen them together?
"No, Kirk, you can't get away. From hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."
With any luck Ricardo activated a genesis device shortly before dying and we'll soon have a nearby M-Class planet to study...
Actually, this guy isn't a religious zealot. He's an obvious troll, and you just fed him, Brainiac. Good going. How stupid are you?
by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
if i fed him... and you fed me.. then where are you on this stupid tree?
It was actually "fine Corinthian leather".
It's just often misquoted as "rich".
I like you, Stuart. You're not like everyone else, here, at Slashdot.
I think the subject says enough...
Seriously though, sad loss. Enjoyed his acting.
Just saw this on the news... couldn't believe it..... sigh..
thoughts are with his friends and family.
From the day he took his white suit off
And left the midget far behind,
He started taking steroids
Froze himself in time.
Now he's slept the sleep of centuries,
A superman from the past
From hell's heart he will stab at thee
and get eugenic on your ass!
He'll put things in your body,
and lay your mind to waste.
Quote a line from Milton,
and never forget your face.
'Cuz he's a villain cruel as Vader
and as merciless as Ming.
He's as pissed off as a Predator
it's Khan Noonien Sing!
Phaser-fest, prosthetic chest
it's all I wanna see
Some may say it's fake,
but it looks real enough to me!
It began on episode 24
On a ship called Botany Bay
And they marooned him on Ceti Alpha 5
But we knew he'd be back someday
'Cuz he's too big for television
They knew it even then
So they put him in the movie Star Trek II,
And they should have brought him back for Star Trek X
Montalban! (Ricardo)
Montalban! (Ricardo)
Wrath of Khan (miamo)
Montalban!
Star ship fights. Parasites.
It's all I wanna see
You may call him Mr. Roarke,
but he's always Khan to me.
Montalban! (Ricardo)
Montalban! (Ricardo)
Wrath of Khan (miamo)
Montalban!
(From Warp 11.)
what the fuck ever racist. is it so hard for you to see people as people and not a race?
You do realize that Westboro Baptist Church is the same group that does the "god hates fags" and "thank god for dead soldiers" crap, right? The only response to these and other Internet Tough Guys is to mod them down out of existence.
Mr. Montalban was probably the most significant Latino in Star Trek
Well, there was Robert Beltran whose parents were first generation Mexican immigrants. Of course I like to pretend that Voyager never existed so I'm going to agree with you that Montalban was the most significant Latino.
nobody thinks twice about a Latino having a title role, but it wasn't always that way.
Very true.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Oh yeah, and that "church" is comprised of about 150 people most of whom are related.
Already, he is shouting his name in greif.
Sadily, there will never be a voice an genune as Ricardo Montalban.
The Rapture is NOT an exit strategy.
So when Shatner dies can we yell KIIIIRRRRRKKKK!?
People always remember the Rich Corinthian Leather.
I remember the Plush Crushed Velour.
(from wiki)
Kirk and Khan never confront each other face-to-face during the film; all of their interactions are over a viewscreen or through communicators, and the their scenes were filmed four months apart.
Montalban enjoyed making the film, and counted the role as a career highlight. His major complaint was that he was never face-to-face with Shatner for a scene. "I had to do my lines with the script girl, who, as you might imagine, sounded nothing like Bill [Shatner]," he explained.
His parents were from Spain, and he grew up a bit of an outsider in Mexico because of that, so calling him latino is a little misleading.
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For about five minutes before he was killed by that intelligent gas cloud.
Had to be said.
I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Actor Ricardo Montalban was found dead in his Los Angeles home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.
I had but a simple dream, to destroy all humans.
Montalban was a devout catholic not a atheist you twit. Of course in your fundamental jackass world he's going to hell anyways (along with all the Joos, Fags, and Mormons as well)
And here we were thinking he'd return in a later sequel. There is always CG I suppose.
That or they could bring in Khan's descendant Con.
...bad actor. That's saying something isn't it?
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
Did anyone actually see Roland's body?
How many years have you been sitting on that poem?
Patrick McGoohan
Patrick McGoohan
Patrick McGoohan
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell
i just saw a clip from that old animated series "The Critic" - let's just look at this as a clip dedicated to Ricardo Montalban. William Shatner on Celebrity 911
Montalban was a devout catholic not a atheist you twit
Atheists aren't the only people who don't believe in Hell.
But, yes, Montalban was a devout Catholic, and thus, believed in Hell.
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Am I the only one who keeps getting bounced between
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and
http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b79139_ricardo_montalban_tvs_mr_roarke_treks.html
?
Who the hell configured their server?
Nothing like a family tree with no branches!!!
I'm stunned that no one has posted about the passing of Patrick McGoohan, star of TV's Danger Man (Secret Agent in the U.S.), and the massive cult hit The Prisoner , which he also conceived, produced, wrote, and directed. I remember watching both of these series as a kid in the 60's, and I remain surprised that The Prisoner ran for only 17 episodes (it was conceived as a miniseries), and that the entirety of the series consists of the attempts of McGoohan's character, Number Six, to escape the Village; ascertain the identity of the mysterious Number 1, the person in charge; and above all, to retain his individuality and sanity. ("I am not a number - I am a free man!")
The Prisoneris considered one of the most groundbreaking original TV series of all time, and it's weird, mind-bending tales with elements of science fiction and allegory have had a profound influence. Patrick McGoohan died at his Los Angeles home after a short illness on the same day as Ricardo Montalbán.
Bit of trivia: McGoohan became the highest paid actor in the U.K after Danger Man became a hit, and was subsequently offered, and turned down, the roles of both James Bond and Simon Templar (The Saint). Said roles kick-started the careers of both Sean Connery and Roger Moore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMLrA_0O5I -- best be trollin'
Obviously the troll is at the top of the foodchain.
Hilarious to watch. Seriously, you can't come up with anything better than the guy whose catchphrases are "God hates fags", "God hates America", and "Priests rape boys"?
I thought Christianity was about love. This guy is all about hate.
The saddest part of this is that it's not even about Ricardo Montalban, It's about George Carlin. Montalban was a devout Roman catholic.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
I just showed this movie to my wife for the first time yesterday.
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But I guess 88 years isn't too bad.
Dedicated Cthulhu Cultist since 4523 BC.
At 60+, Mantalban was still built like a god with big slabs of muscle.
OTH, the pudgier Shatner has built a wonderful successful career of fine roles since star trek.
So it depends on how you are scoring.
Shatner tends to be naturally pudgier, but he's still in good shape, especially for his age. James Spader remarked that Shatner would do more pushups on the set than he himself could do when he was younger.
Montalban kept in shape too; he just had better genes.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
Buried alive... buried alive...
Will his casket be lined with soft Corinthian leather?
His parents were from Spain, and he grew up a bit of an outsider in Mexico because of that, so calling him latino is a little misleading.
Chicano would, perhaps, be misleading. I think Latino would still be appropriate...
That reminds me. Wasn't there a book series about the Eugenic Wars with Khan as part of it?
Shai Schticks:"You don't make peace with friends, you make peace with enemies"
"However, the only real latino we had in Star Trek was Mr. Montalban, who was the antagonist in both Space Seed and its sequel, The Wrath of Kahn."
True, but playing the villain is so much fun.
Shai Schticks:"You don't make peace with friends, you make peace with enemies"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGbU2o&eurl=http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200322&page=4
Maybe he was kidding?
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Montalban always prided himself on his physical conditioning. Even though his injury prevented him from continuing to dance full time he stayed in top shape.
Using the bible to spew hatred, while wrapping yourself up in christianity is the height of hubris. You spew pure hatred, and clearly failed Sunday school. How old testament of you. Please re-read the bible and try again. You sound just like a run of the mill Islamic extremist. The whole POINT of the bible establishes the basis for how we, as individuals, groups, and nations can get along with each other... things that BIND us together, not tear us apart.
From Hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.
Very, very apt. Well done.
(Though I have to confess my first thought was not "KHAAAAAN!" but "The plane, boss! The plane!" Does that mean I have to turn in my geek card?)
Even the parts about stoning to death disobedient children or selling your daughter into slavery?
To be perfectly honest, Mr. Phelps here sounds like a better Christian than you are. Not that that's a good thing.
According to Fred, there's nothing like a little tail-end recursion, as long as you keep it in the family.
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Man, your brain is fucking toasted isn't it?
Hispanic would be the most appropriate term.
Wow, that must have been some heavy lifting, for, as everyone knows, God and the Bible are opposites to each other. God is, well, Godly. The Bible? Like all religion, it's the work of the Devil.
You should also consider that Montalban's character was not Latino (Khan was a Sikh, according to Wikipedia). Neither was Beltran's, per se, but a Native American character is more significantly diverse than a Latino one anyway, since Latinos are just half Native American and half European.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Ah, but if you want to bible-thump, how do you judge Ricardo's eternal destiny? How do you know he did not receive Yeshua Hamaschiach (Jesus the Messiah) as his Lord and Savior with his gasping breath? Aren't you judging unrighteously when you state that Ricardo is now in Hell?
You remind me of Westboro Baptist Church (godhatesfags.com), where a message of hatred, works-based theology, and judgement is preached rather than Yeshua's (Jesus') message of redemption, love, and forgiveness.
I know you're only trolling, but who are you to judge someone's eternal destiny? For all we know, Adolf Hitler could be with Christ at this moment, if he repented with his dying breath. That scenario would not negate God's sovereignty and justice; after all, Yeshua (Jesus) paid for ALL sins when He was crucified. Adonai (the LORD) sent His only son to REDEEM the world, not judge it. (FWIW I suspect Hitler is pretty much past well done and well into the crispy stage at this point but it's not my place to say definitively that is the case -- after all, I am not God and neither are you)
Westboro Baptist Church is not a Christian congregation by any means. They twist scripture into a message of hatred, unrighteous judgement, works, and racism. It's the KKK under a different garb.
The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
How come Majel didn't get a showcased /. article? There was mention of it, but not a main new story :( - RIP to the two of them
I assume you're referring to the characters, not the actors, since you cite Chekov as a Russian. Khan was not Latino; he was a Sikh from northern India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh
That post might mean something if 1) there really was a god and 2) you weren't the worlds biggest Putz.
Osama Bin Laden has better karma than you.
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Don't rush me, Sonny. You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles.
Yes, but from hell's heart he stab at thee.
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If you ever want to shut them up, ask them why they don't keep seventh day sabbath. Then when they tell you their answer, use that to dismiss all the verses they tend to used against people.
Works every time.
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Montalban always reminds me of the character Victor (pronounced "Bictor") from Futurama who was pretty obviously modeled after his soft Corinthian leather days:
VICTOR:
The luxurious seats are stuffed with
eagle down and the dashboard inlaid
with the beaks of a thousand eagles.
Also, there are some eagles under the
floorboards.
Oh yeah, and that "church" is comprised of about 150 people most of whom are related.
Related in more than one way, I suspect.
I am Ricardo Montalban.
My keyboads not woking popely.
He was very cordial and friendly. We had set-up our two ladder and planks on the sidewalk to get a great view of the start of the parade on Orange Grove. He wave to the crowd as people were saying, "The plane, The plane!"
>> "However, the only real latino we had in Star Trek was Mr. Montalban, who was the antagonist in both Space Seed and its sequel, The Wrath of Kahn."
> True, but playing the villain is so much fun.
Damn straight! "Antagonist" is too mild a word...
The Prisoner is every bit as geek as Richardo Montalban. I remember watching The Prisoner on PBS in the 70's and watching the discussion shows afterwards where College folks discussed what everything meant in that episode. - It doesn't get more geek than that. I feel pretty sad about these deaths.
Enjoy your Karma, after all you earned it. Feel your Karma Joe, feel it burn.
Eh, the time I saw them I just told them to fuck off.
Hispanic would be the most appropriate term.
Why not 'Spanish'?
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I was much more sad when I heard about No.6 passing that I was about Kahn.
The editors made the wrong choice in highlighting this story and not McGoohan.
I love the Space Seed episode of TOS and Wrath of Kahn is the only movie that holds up really well, but even combined they pale in comparison to The Prisoner. Now add in Secret Agent and it's not even close.
"Kittens give Morbo gas!"
The plain. The plain Mr. Roarke.
</foreign-accent>
<foreign-accent style="would-be-posh">
Shut up Tattoo. It is not a plain. It is a big white bird and it is taking me to the eternal hunting fields.
</foreign-accent>
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
Guru Nanak could kick Jesus' ass any day of the week. Especially Sunday...
Fauntusy Island Tattoo: Boss!! DE PLAN, DE PLANE Tattoo: Boss!!!!! DE PLAN, DE PLANE!!!! Roarke: Do you know why they call you Tattoo? Tattoo: But Boss!! DE PLAN DE PLANE Roarke: It is because you are an annoying little priiick
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
Even the parts about stoning to death disobedient children or selling your daughter into slavery?
Especially the parts about stoning to death disobedient children or selling your daughter into slavery, or leaving your daughter to be gang raped so a guy doesn't have to endure homosexualit, or helping out your sworn enemies just because it is the right thing to do, or not lighting fires on the weekend.
Isn't the bible weird?
He mentioned this in uncountable interviews.
Many Mexicans have parents born in Spain for all kind of historic and political reasons, also many families in Mexico have mostly Spanish ancestry and little Native American blood.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Yet, from Hell's heart he will stab at thee!
He was born in Mexico City, a very distinguished Chilango.
Mexican law states that anybody born in Mexican soil is a Mexican citizen by birth irrespective of the origin of their parents (as if Spanish parents was a rare occurrence in Mexico ....)
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
I am surprised everybody goes about Star Trek and forgets about his role in Planet of the Apes.
He plays an heroic character that dies defending the weak. I am sure he was very pleased about that since Latino actors didn't get positive roles in Hollywood for many years.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Hispanic would be the most appropriate term.
Why not 'Spanish'?
Because Spanish is the term for people born in Spain and Hispanic is the term for people born on Spanish America
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"NINE million? I will geeve you EIGHTY million, that way you will have some petty cash!"
Then when they tell you their answer, use that to dismiss all the verses they tend to used against people. Works every time.
Not really, while you might actually 'win' the argument, it reminds me of the old saying "Never get into a wrestling match with a pig. You both get dirty -- and the pig likes it."
Their tenets are not intended to be logical, but to gain attention. More so, attacking them with logical discussions is almost counter productive as some who hear the discussion may fall for the 'truthful middle fallacy'. This is a case where it's best just to call them nasty names to make yourself feel better and move on.
The force that blew the Big Bang continues to accelerate.
All trunk and no branches? I have one of those. I call it a penis.
Nah, they're just the offline model of Internet trolls. There's no point arguing with them. Just don't feed them and watch them starve.
Violence is like duct tape. If it doesn't solve the problem, you didn't use enough.
Just admit that you're old
+1 fashionably cynical
Sorry, Westboro Baptist is less like a tree and more like a 2x4.
Except a 2x4 is occasionally useful.
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THANK GOD!!!
Are we all forgetting Naked Gun? I love that movie and Montalban was great in it!
I loved him as Khan Enjoyed him as Mr Roarke BArely remember him in the Apes movie I also liked him as Senor Senoir Sr from Kim Possible. Looked at his IMDB entry...holy cow he worked longer then most people LIVE.
He held the ramblings of a horny monk and a horny poet
in higher regard than actual scripture just like every
other proper Catholic.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Obvious troll is obvious
maybe true, but I heard his coffin is lined with "fiiiine corinthian leather"! Check it out for us when your at the funeral.
Montalban buried
Soft Corinthian leather
Lining his coffin
Now that there is a troll.
Well...a cut and paste troll. About George Carlin. Go figure.
I hope they made sure he was dead, so that he won't end up... buried alive... buried alive...
"I am not a number, I am a free man!"
or leaving your daughter to be gang raped so a guy doesn't have to endure homosexualit, or helping out your sworn enemies just because it is the right thing to do,
Exactly where does the Bible advocate this? Answer: it doesn't. You are referring to a story about Lot. Simply because a story gets told about someone's actions doesn't meant that it is being advocated as being right.
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Thing I got from it was, he knew who he was talking to. He'd get more points in my book if the known angels were total strangers without any connections to 'Invisible Hank'.
Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic.
Oh, come on. Lot is presented as one of the few good folk amongst the people of Sodom. And he pulls that nonsense? The bible presents a person who would throw his daughter (you know, the one he got drunk and fucked) to the wolves as having virtues which make him truly righteous despite this.
That is disgusting, as is any school of thought which considers a love for God more important than love for fellow man.
My point is the bible is full of weirdness. Take a poke at the other things I mentioned, please. How can anyone read that without being appalled at the command it has over the hearts and minds of so many.
I never realized until this year how many lines from this movie came from Ahab in Moby Dick.
_That_ is very apt.
> Ah, but if you want to bible-thump, how do you judge Ricardo's eternal destiny?
The orthodox don't. At all. As a matter of fact, speculation aside, it's my understanding that they will never declare that some particular person is in hell. And that includes Judas.
In other words, they hold out some measure of hope, however small, for everyone.
Because Spanish is the term for people born in Spain and Hispanic is the term for people born on Spanish America
Gotcha, so it's birth-based, not hereditary. Is there an nomenclature for denoting heritage, as in 'Irish American'? 'Spanish Hispanic'?
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Yes, the Mexicans probably made fun of his sissy-boy accent.
El era mas macho.
'Cuz I think your trip is going to be ruined when St. Peter won't punch your ticket.
Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit, telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
"To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee"
or, if that's a little too cultured for you, let me just say, "fuck off, asshole"
you really expect me to be able to express my opinion of what's so fucked up in this world in 120 characters or less?
Um.
Um... no he wasn't. He chooses to live in a city known for its not-so-good lifestyle. During the flight from the city his own wife doesn't even listen to him. After fleeing the city, he got drunk and knocked up his daughters.
The fact is the Bible is full of stories where no real commentary is made on whether the actions are wrong or right. And, like it or not, the morays were different then. I am not even claiming that the stories are a 100% accurate description of what happened. However, there is no indication that Lot was a "righteous" person given by the Bible account.
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And a second point. I had to review to make sure my recollection was right, but Lot did NOT know who his visitors were
" The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. "My lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning."
"No," they answered, "we will spend the night in the square."
But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don't do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.""
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Not that I know of.
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