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Define Dynamic. Define Static.
If by Dynamic you mean FLASH based content, then CMS is indeed Dynamic via embedded flash. If by dynamic, you mean Java(or JS) then CMS can be dynamic with this embedded. If you mean content that is automatically updated/refreshed then CMS is indeed Dynamic with RSS feeds and other means.
The problem you have, is you're probably a snob thinking what they know is the best and only choice for "Dynamic" content, in your own limted way. To me Dynamic means changes. Static means unchanging. CMS is most definitely dynamic, by almost every measure. Perhaps it isn't as Dynamic as you'd like or according to your standards, but that doesn't make you right. Perhaps you're unfamiliar with CMS systems and their abilities, in which case you're not a snob but just plain ignorant.
CMS by nature is Dynamic. Perhaps not as Dynamic as you want, but it is dynamic; changing to suit each user. And most CMS' have the ability to add code snippets as needed, provided you know how, and have the right CMS. Not all CMS' are created equal. Some are better than others at various things. And most CMS' are extensible, meaning you can add code to the back end to accomplish that which you want/need. I doubt you know much about CMS' or else you'd know this.
That being said, I agree with most WYSIWYG (key, "most") editors. Some are very good at creating the basic framework you need to tweak by hand. I suggest to you that you probably aren't using the proper tools for the job if you're having issues with poorly structured HTML from your WYSIWYG application. The ones I use actually will check the validity of the HTML and CSS being used against various standards, and even browser idiosyncrasies.
While HTML and CSS are important to know still, I can't help but wonder how many people actually still build websites with HTML and CSS and Java and such? I stopped using plain HTML at least four years ago, when I discovered Content Management Systems (WebGUI back then, now using Joomla). I've built or helped build dozens of sites, all part time, using CMS, and most of my clients couldn't be happier. They have access to add content all day long, and don't have to worry about "design".
If I went to a Web seminar like the one described in the story, and it didn't mention building sites on top of a CMS, I'd question the presenter and the company that paid for me to go. There is no reason that your average person needs to know HTML or CSS, as those should be handed over to DESIGNERS, people skilled with making things look good. If you want to see what it looks like when everyday people do design just go over to MySpace (akkkk).
Just my $.02 (actual value subject to market forces)
I actually blame the unions for low salaries, but that is a long story. If you want to make more money, go do something else. Remember, we all volunteered for our jobs. We said yes to the terms and conditions.
As for a fired teacher not being able to find a job? So what? Why fill in substandard teaching just to protect a bad teacher? I don't get that at all.
Parents are part of the problem, but teachers, administration, students are as well. I know from being a parent, I feel almost helpless with regard to schooling my children. I have NO choice, everything is assigned to me. I can't make sure my kids avoid the bad teachers, and I can assure that they will get good ones. And no complaining amounts to any changes, because we can't fire the bad teachers.
And don't tell me that there aren't any bad teachers or that they are rare. I walk into classrooms all the time, and it pisses me off as to what passes for "teaching" today. Sex Education from the likes of Rikki Lake, Teachers spewing their leftwing/rightwing hatred at Bush/Clinton, Capitalism, Socialism, Mexicans, Muslims, Christians, Evolutionists, Creationists........
I've seen it way too often. Most teachers do a pretty good job, a few are great, and a few are aweful, we can't really reward the great ones, or get rid of the aweful ones. Thanks to the Union, where everyone is treated exactly the same regardless of merit, skill, dedication or otherwise. I'd love to see GOOD teachers get rewarded by paying them MORE than average.
I've known good teachers who've just quit because of the crap the bad ones cause. I'd wish the Union would support the good teachers that are giving up rather than support the bad ones that deserve to be culled from the ranks.
I agree that we need to teach real thinking. However there has to be bounds to limit what goes on in a classroom. Chemistry is dangerous, Football is dangerous, and in appropriate use of computers is also dangerous. Maybe not to the same level (blowing things up, blowing a knee, blowing a configuration). Part of teaching is not teaching facts, but why things are the way they are.
The question is, how do you tell a black hatter, from an idiot, from some random kid intalling something he saw on slashdot? Teachers don't have the time to manage 35 Kevin Mitnicks.
The problem isn't the one kid, its the one plus the 34 others in the class.
Well Firefox is on the list of software that is available for use in our district, but no support is offered for it. And honestly no support is needed for it. It isn't installed by default because most teachers don't know what it is, or how to use it. Those that do use it, and prefer it, can find current version available on local repository.
Like I said in another post, I find it easy to manage stuff if 1) I'm not a prick, and 2) you're not a prick. I prefer cooperation to open hostility.
I install stuff all the time. And if it is good, I add it to the software build for the district I work for, or make current version available on local repositories, so that people can get the current version without crossing the WAN. Ever try to download OO.org?
I find it much easier to manage things if 1)I'm not a dick, and 2) you're not a dick. Seriously it is the pricks of the world that ruin it for everyone else.
Ever try to clean up a mess caused by people who don't know what they are doing, even when they didn't. Installing software without authorization is a No No. No exceptions. It is easy enough to get authorized, all you gotta do is ask and have a good reason.
I'm sorry your school district tech support is so bad (we have bad techs here too). I'm also sorry that there are bad teachers. Now, we're even. The problem is that due to union issues, bad (can't perform) people can't be fired. I think that *MOST* teachers are adequate, but too many aren't (same with IT, btw).
Yes, the sword does swing both ways. I'm willing to admit the weaknesses in my department, most teachers aren't willing to do the same.
I've supported and even recommended the use of Firefox over IE, even though we're a mostly MS Shop. I'm not a big MS fan, and have recommended every step of the way to use free (beer/speech) alternatives instead of MS. But I'm a lone voice in my dept.
And you sir, are an apologetic for anarchy - assuming the guilt on the part of the authority. The facts of the case are not in dispute, the student refused to do what the teacher said, which was a reasonable request. The students don't run the classroom, the teachers do (or are supposed to).
I work in School District IT, and can assure you that teachers decide what is in the classrooms, not IT. If the Teachers want something, IT is charged with making it happen.
However, teachers aren't absolute in their dictations, as IT is able to make recommendations, and express concerns (support, helpdesk resposibility etc) .
I work at a school district in IT, and I can assure you that some (too many) teachers can barely teach, let alone manage to run a classroom with computers.
I would love to require all teachers who want to use computers have to attend a class on computers in the classroom by someone like me who can explain the technology and what it can do (and not do) in the classroom.
However, I can equally assure you that the Teacher's Union is so high on itself that it wouldn't allow having a non-teacher teaching anything, let alone other teachers. There is this underlying current of elitism in many teachers.
Suffice it to say, I doubt that 85% of the teachers using computers in the classroom know anything more than "Click the Start Menu" type instruction, and if it isn't Microsoft ________ it isn't used. Period. Firefox isn't Microsoft, so it isn't used, and teachers don't know about it.
I don't know if I should blame the teachers or not. However, this teacher was running the classroom properly. The student had no right to change the instruction of the teacher (even if the student was correct). I know that managing a classroom of people is hard enough without having some rogue student thinking they know better. Even if Firefox is a better browser (it is), that doesn't give the student the right to vary from the instruction (use IE).
One last thing, the last thing I want on computers I manage is students downloading and installing whatever programs they think they want onto computers. If they want to use a program they need to request it through the proper channels. If I caught a student installing software on a computer without permission, I'd recommend they be expelled, regardless of what they were installing. Its not their computer.
"The article also suggests some changes to the DMCA to protect consumers from this sort of intrusive, and security-undermining, technique in the future."
How about this, when an industry pushes legislative half assed measures and gets them passed in to law, they forfeit normal protections afforded every other group out there.
In this case DMCA law prohibits the consumer from doing all sorts of things, in an effort to protect a particular industry. Since Sony installed, without permission, software that effectively broke computers, they'd held to a HIGHER standard than any other organization.
In this case the law should have revoked the corporate charter surrendered all assets to the government. Since the Corporation is a "legal" entity, the same as a person, the government should treat it exactly like a person caught doing the same thing.
They hardly can compare themselves to Apple or Linux, because those aren't really competition... YET.
All the reasons to upgrade to Vista I've seen are in reality nothing. The support costs for Vista in my organization are huge, especially when dealing with re-imaging issues (Ghost, WDS etc). It will take one of us (Analyst level) guys six months to evaluate, test, and prepare for a Vista rollout. That's six months of dedicated planning. Six Months with our small under staffed department.
It isn't going to happen for at least two years, and by then, the next version will probably be out, some sort of XP on steroids.
Since when does Nostalgia equate to news and stuff that matters? If I write a piece on the PCjr (my first PC), filled with nostalgia and how wonderful a machine it was, will it get a link here? After all, it was the first PC to break 640k DOS limit.
Or how about TI 99? (my first portable)
Or Apple II? (first school computer)
Or TRS-80? (first machine I programmed in Assembly on)
Nostalgia is of limited interest, almost by definition.
You need to read my comment closer. I said "Now that it is SCIENTIFICALLY proven that Abortions INCREASE the risk of cancer". People having abortions are indeed at higher risk for cancer. It doesn't prove causality, but that it is likely to be a contributing factor at minimum.
Actually, it was a new study released this last week, if you cared to read the article.
Define Dynamic. Define Static.
If by Dynamic you mean FLASH based content, then CMS is indeed Dynamic via embedded flash. If by dynamic, you mean Java(or JS) then CMS can be dynamic with this embedded. If you mean content that is automatically updated/refreshed then CMS is indeed Dynamic with RSS feeds and other means.
The problem you have, is you're probably a snob thinking what they know is the best and only choice for "Dynamic" content, in your own limted way. To me Dynamic means changes. Static means unchanging. CMS is most definitely dynamic, by almost every measure. Perhaps it isn't as Dynamic as you'd like or according to your standards, but that doesn't make you right. Perhaps you're unfamiliar with CMS systems and their abilities, in which case you're not a snob but just plain ignorant.
I think I just fed a troll. I feel so dirty.
CMS by nature is Dynamic. Perhaps not as Dynamic as you want, but it is dynamic; changing to suit each user. And most CMS' have the ability to add code snippets as needed, provided you know how, and have the right CMS. Not all CMS' are created equal. Some are better than others at various things. And most CMS' are extensible, meaning you can add code to the back end to accomplish that which you want/need. I doubt you know much about CMS' or else you'd know this.
That being said, I agree with most WYSIWYG (key, "most") editors. Some are very good at creating the basic framework you need to tweak by hand. I suggest to you that you probably aren't using the proper tools for the job if you're having issues with poorly structured HTML from your WYSIWYG application. The ones I use actually will check the validity of the HTML and CSS being used against various standards, and even browser idiosyncrasies.
While HTML and CSS are important to know still, I can't help but wonder how many people actually still build websites with HTML and CSS and Java and such? I stopped using plain HTML at least four years ago, when I discovered Content Management Systems (WebGUI back then, now using Joomla). I've built or helped build dozens of sites, all part time, using CMS, and most of my clients couldn't be happier. They have access to add content all day long, and don't have to worry about "design".
If I went to a Web seminar like the one described in the story, and it didn't mention building sites on top of a CMS, I'd question the presenter and the company that paid for me to go. There is no reason that your average person needs to know HTML or CSS, as those should be handed over to DESIGNERS, people skilled with making things look good. If you want to see what it looks like when everyday people do design just go over to MySpace (akkkk).
Just my $.02 (actual value subject to market forces)
Darn you! I have coffee coming out of my nose now! This is the funniest thing I've seen in sometime here on Slashdot.
I actually blame the unions for low salaries, but that is a long story. If you want to make more money, go do something else. Remember, we all volunteered for our jobs. We said yes to the terms and conditions.
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As for a fired teacher not being able to find a job? So what? Why fill in substandard teaching just to protect a bad teacher? I don't get that at all.
Parents are part of the problem, but teachers, administration, students are as well. I know from being a parent, I feel almost helpless with regard to schooling my children. I have NO choice, everything is assigned to me. I can't make sure my kids avoid the bad teachers, and I can assure that they will get good ones. And no complaining amounts to any changes, because we can't fire the bad teachers.
And don't tell me that there aren't any bad teachers or that they are rare. I walk into classrooms all the time, and it pisses me off as to what passes for "teaching" today. Sex Education from the likes of Rikki Lake, Teachers spewing their leftwing/rightwing hatred at Bush/Clinton, Capitalism, Socialism, Mexicans, Muslims, Christians, Evolutionists, Creationists
I've seen it way too often. Most teachers do a pretty good job, a few are great, and a few are aweful, we can't really reward the great ones, or get rid of the aweful ones. Thanks to the Union, where everyone is treated exactly the same regardless of merit, skill, dedication or otherwise. I'd love to see GOOD teachers get rewarded by paying them MORE than average.
I've known good teachers who've just quit because of the crap the bad ones cause. I'd wish the Union would support the good teachers that are giving up rather than support the bad ones that deserve to be culled from the ranks.
I agree that we need to teach real thinking. However there has to be bounds to limit what goes on in a classroom. Chemistry is dangerous, Football is dangerous, and in appropriate use of computers is also dangerous. Maybe not to the same level (blowing things up, blowing a knee, blowing a configuration). Part of teaching is not teaching facts, but why things are the way they are.
The question is, how do you tell a black hatter, from an idiot, from some random kid intalling something he saw on slashdot? Teachers don't have the time to manage 35 Kevin Mitnicks.
The problem isn't the one kid, its the one plus the 34 others in the class.
Well Firefox is on the list of software that is available for use in our district, but no support is offered for it. And honestly no support is needed for it. It isn't installed by default because most teachers don't know what it is, or how to use it. Those that do use it, and prefer it, can find current version available on local repository.
Like I said in another post, I find it easy to manage stuff if 1) I'm not a prick, and 2) you're not a prick. I prefer cooperation to open hostility.
I install stuff all the time. And if it is good, I add it to the software build for the district I work for, or make current version available on local repositories, so that people can get the current version without crossing the WAN. Ever try to download OO.org?
I find it much easier to manage things if 1)I'm not a dick, and 2) you're not a dick. Seriously it is the pricks of the world that ruin it for everyone else.
Actually, too much software still requires Admin Rights to run (Adobe InDesign, used by newspapers and yearbooks).
The problem isn't with installing Firefox, but rather the 15 different browser extensions and toolbars, each with their own version of spyware.
I'm not sure how you get from "ask me" to "Napoleon" dictator. I'm not unreasonable. Apparently it is too hard for you to ask.
Ever try to clean up a mess caused by people who don't know what they are doing, even when they didn't. Installing software without authorization is a No No. No exceptions. It is easy enough to get authorized, all you gotta do is ask and have a good reason.
It isn't that hard.
I'm sorry your school district tech support is so bad (we have bad techs here too). I'm also sorry that there are bad teachers. Now, we're even. The problem is that due to union issues, bad (can't perform) people can't be fired. I think that *MOST* teachers are adequate, but too many aren't (same with IT, btw).
Yes, the sword does swing both ways. I'm willing to admit the weaknesses in my department, most teachers aren't willing to do the same.
I've supported and even recommended the use of Firefox over IE, even though we're a mostly MS Shop. I'm not a big MS fan, and have recommended every step of the way to use free (beer/speech) alternatives instead of MS. But I'm a lone voice in my dept.
And you sir, are an apologetic for anarchy - assuming the guilt on the part of the authority. The facts of the case are not in dispute, the student refused to do what the teacher said, which was a reasonable request. The students don't run the classroom, the teachers do (or are supposed to).
I work in School District IT, and can assure you that teachers decide what is in the classrooms, not IT. If the Teachers want something, IT is charged with making it happen.
However, teachers aren't absolute in their dictations, as IT is able to make recommendations, and express concerns (support, helpdesk resposibility etc) .
I work at a school district in IT, and I can assure you that some (too many) teachers can barely teach, let alone manage to run a classroom with computers.
I would love to require all teachers who want to use computers have to attend a class on computers in the classroom by someone like me who can explain the technology and what it can do (and not do) in the classroom.
However, I can equally assure you that the Teacher's Union is so high on itself that it wouldn't allow having a non-teacher teaching anything, let alone other teachers. There is this underlying current of elitism in many teachers.
Suffice it to say, I doubt that 85% of the teachers using computers in the classroom know anything more than "Click the Start Menu" type instruction, and if it isn't Microsoft ________ it isn't used. Period. Firefox isn't Microsoft, so it isn't used, and teachers don't know about it.
I don't know if I should blame the teachers or not. However, this teacher was running the classroom properly. The student had no right to change the instruction of the teacher (even if the student was correct). I know that managing a classroom of people is hard enough without having some rogue student thinking they know better. Even if Firefox is a better browser (it is), that doesn't give the student the right to vary from the instruction (use IE).
One last thing, the last thing I want on computers I manage is students downloading and installing whatever programs they think they want onto computers. If they want to use a program they need to request it through the proper channels. If I caught a student installing software on a computer without permission, I'd recommend they be expelled, regardless of what they were installing. Its not their computer.
"The article also suggests some changes to the DMCA to protect consumers from this sort of intrusive, and security-undermining, technique in the future."
How about this, when an industry pushes legislative half assed measures and gets them passed in to law, they forfeit normal protections afforded every other group out there.
In this case DMCA law prohibits the consumer from doing all sorts of things, in an effort to protect a particular industry. Since Sony installed, without permission, software that effectively broke computers, they'd held to a HIGHER standard than any other organization.
In this case the law should have revoked the corporate charter surrendered all assets to the government. Since the Corporation is a "legal" entity, the same as a person, the government should treat it exactly like a person caught doing the same thing.
My $.02
A comment about a dupe marked (Score:-1, Redundant), talk about irony.
Never Mind
Only people on acid use IE so it does indeed pass the "ACID TEST"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
.... Streisand Effect. Which is directly the result of ignorance or idiocy. Typical of Dilbertized Corporations.
First words out of my mouth would be
Two Wongs make Peking Duck
I suggest that from now on, we just use "Obligatory .... Nevermind" and bypass any pretense of anything else.
....
See below for example
Subject: Obligatory
Comment: Nevermind
We'll eventually just shorten it to
Subject: Nevermind
Comment:
Microsoft's biggest competition is itself.
... YET.
They hardly can compare themselves to Apple or Linux, because those aren't really competition
All the reasons to upgrade to Vista I've seen are in reality nothing. The support costs for Vista in my organization are huge, especially when dealing with re-imaging issues (Ghost, WDS etc). It will take one of us (Analyst level) guys six months to evaluate, test, and prepare for a Vista rollout. That's six months of dedicated planning. Six Months with our small under staffed department.
It isn't going to happen for at least two years, and by then, the next version will probably be out, some sort of XP on steroids.
Nostalgic fun? 1957 Chevy Bel Air, that is both Nostalgic and Fun.
http://www.oldride.com/imgitem/82516085444700_tmp_org.jpg
and it is STILL useful.
Since when does Nostalgia equate to news and stuff that matters? If I write a piece on the PCjr (my first PC), filled with nostalgia and how wonderful a machine it was, will it get a link here? After all, it was the first PC to break 640k DOS limit.
Or how about TI 99? (my first portable)
Or Apple II? (first school computer)
Or TRS-80? (first machine I programmed in Assembly on)
Nostalgia is of limited interest, almost by definition.
You need to read my comment closer. I said "Now that it is SCIENTIFICALLY proven that Abortions INCREASE the risk of cancer". People having abortions are indeed at higher risk for cancer. It doesn't prove causality, but that it is likely to be a contributing factor at minimum.
Actually, it was a new study released this last week, if you cared to read the article.