keep trying to think of what would be the fairest penalty, and then they go do something that just pisses me off. So I finnally just throw my hands up and say to hell with them
Since they should not have any benefit from any illegal act they have done, and since they were convicted of something, they should probably "dis-intergrate" the connection with the internet, and take anything primarily connected to the internet such as browsers, and MSN, and web server stuff, etc, and spin it all off as a separate company.
things which are not primarily an internet thing (the OS thing, Office, etc) should be retained as another company.
And the two compamnies should not be able to do any business with each other for 5 or 6 years, basically the length of time they have had the benefit of their illegal actions.
Spammers need to be impaled on long barbed spikes.
No, I long ago suggested spam licenses where we get to go out and give each spammer a bright orange flow in the dark permanent eartag, complete with animal tracking collar. Then we can heard them up and stampede them over a cliff or something.
what if they got into the system and overloaded it while still small so as to promote their own links and to discredit the project? Just a wild thought, not that they would ever be that organized.
I am thinking of the recent Google ranking wars, for example.
for most folks using it, it would be enough to put them off their feed if the spammers polluted the data pool early and strongly enough. Presuming that the average user was not an expert user.
I see this as part of a larger problem of people pushing competing viewpoints on the web.
Alledged nasty group "A" against alledged heroic group "B" - gets messy when things like politics and religion get involved.
Ah, see, your post is so riddled with errors that it actually is offending me.
On the other hand, I have found some of the responses educational.
One angle is the "follow the money" angle
Another, equally viable, is the "See the Source Code" angle.
As seen in this PDF file, property rights are often considered as a "bundle of sticks", a collection of rights which taken collectively create the concept of property and ownership. (although this is usually seen in land and realty situations, I can see how it applies elsewhere)
This ties directly into the license vs ownership arguments, etc. and would have to be sorted out in detail
You'd really fuck people that sell GPL software, what with the infinite, non-revokeable license length as long as you follow the other terms.
Well, I do not see it this way.
GPL allows you to charge for making copies. So this fits in with other software re-distributors.
Specifically customised versions, such as Redhat, are sold commercially, and could be subject to a warranty in the boxed version for some period of time, such as a one year class of warrenty.
but the version you download for free is non-commercial.
Primary point of defition being 'did money exchange hands?" = Liability for some length of time.
Buyt his does bring up the essential point, liability for GPL vs proprietary setups like MS.
the Solution? "Follow the Money"
The point being to BREAK the curse of perpetual license with no responsibility.
Actually, many believe that if there was intelligent life, that Since MAN is made in Gods' image, and aliens probably will not look like men, and so would be demons, "fallen Angels", if you will
I would define software into several broad categories:
Non-Comercial For which money is not charged
Commercial for which money is charged
Licensed Commercial For which Money is charged, but for which no sale is made.
Commercial software would include the obligation of support, although the require period of time is open to debate. I would advocate 5 years, although this could be set to several classes, such as 1 year, 3 year, 5 year, and 7 year. Each with a degree of obligation of support, liability, etc.
Non Commercial would not be subject to the warranty, and so would cover open source, donation ware, shareware, etc.
Shareware, etc. would probably have to be sorted out as software where no payment is required.
I advocate that any software not sold but merely licensed must have complete liability coverage and support for the duration of the License.
Just beat the bejeezus out of them. That sucker's made from an aircraft-grade aluminum pipe.
You must have missed this detail
"I had purchased a saber from a company that is now out of business," said 29-year-old Anthony Minichino of Brick, N.J. "Parks came along and had complete original designs. Some of them had working blades, which I'd never seen before."
Which is something to give me pause...
Working?
Just what we need for our special forces in Afghanistan.
A few more well thought out and well discussed TLDs won't hurt, but an unmonitored flood of them from everyone and everywhere defeats the entire purpose of the system.
Given the way that things have not be enforced, it is rapidly loosing the funtionality that you rightfully espouse.
I sort of think it would be useful to get rid of the trade name speculation in domain names if...... what a second, it would only push the domain name fight over to the fight to be the registrar for the TLDs.
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The Japanese have always had a lot of cool things that a geek would kill for. I can recall seeing a some thing similar many years ago that was completely competitive to the laptops of the time.
Most of the cool things never make it to sateside.
Some japanese electronics shopping areas have become a regular pornopopulust of technologia. The land of techno-lust deluxe.
This is one of those things that shares characteristics of both Infrared and Microwaves. The area of the spctrum has been called "far infrared". I can see that it has been under developed. Frrom the AT&T paper.
The image of a slice of bacon shows different levels of T-ray transparency for lean and fatty areas. Since fat absorbs almost no T-rays, it looks white; meat absorbs roughly 25 times as many T-rays, so it looks dark.
Many compounds changed the T-rays in characteristic ways, due to absorption or reflection. Molecules and chemical compounds, particularly in the gas phase, showed strong absorption lines that can serve as "fingerprints" of the molecules. Metals and other materials with high electrical conductivity were completely opaque to terahertz radiation.
The T-ray imaging technique is notable in that it can distinguish between different chemical compositions inside a material even when the object looks uniform in visible light. Also, most plastics are transparent to T-rays, so it can "see" inside plastic packaging.
I believe they use pulses to illuminate the targets, just so that you don't cook them
The industry worries that the expanding used market is cannibalizing new-CD sales, as well as promoting piracy by allowing consumers to buy, record and sell back discs while retaining their own digitally pristine copies.
It also means that people will avoid other new formats that as effectively copy protected, because they will go ahead and buy/sell used CDS, etc. As the RIAA will discover, the "sheep" the want to sheer continue to rebel.
The only solution will be to actually have an original musical product. Not that the RIAA will be able to do this.
Looks liker the death of an industry, because the things they think they have to do, will also kill off the industry.
The country is called Bulgaria. Yet another example of/. being US-centric, and is US-people being out of touch with the rest of the world.
Okay. How about Gulahgistan or Pornopopulus?
The fictional city name really is unimportant except to suggest something vaguely in Eastern Europe where under paid programmers are sometimes plentiful.
the ODU prototype is expected to max out at about 40 mph along a track that stretches about two-thirds of a mile. [...] When it makes its maiden run, scheduled for September, the train will carry up to 100 people for 30 to 40 seconds between each of the three stations, running entirely on autopilot.
with a short run track, I expect that it would not be practical to accelerate to 400 mph.
It would probably take as long to merely get strapped in for a high speed run.
that all this time, the satire about the virus development divisions of anti-virus software companies actually contained a kernel of truth?
Actually I think they farm this out to their overseas operations in Bulgravia or someplace similar. Keeps it better for the bean counters. Plausible denial, etc.
Although I can see the scandal if it was found that they actually do have virus writers on payroll someplace.
Music Industry Unveils New Piracy-Proof Format: A Black, Plastic Disc With Grooves On It
Music bosses have unveiled a revolutionary new recording format that they hope will help win the war on illegal file sharing which is thought to be costing the industry millions of dollars in lost revenue.
Nicknamed the 'Record', the new format takes the form of a black, vinyl disc measuring 12 inches in diameter, which must be played on a specially designed 'turntable'.
"We can state with absolute certainty that no computer in the world can access the data on this disc," said spokesman Brett Campbell. "We are also confident that no-one is going to be able to produce pirate copies in this format without going to a heck of a lot of trouble. This is without doubt the best anti-piracy
invention the music industry has ever seen."
As part of the invention's rigorous testing process, the designers gave some discs to a group of teenage computer experts who regularly use file swapping software such as Limewire and gnutella and who admit to pirating music CDs. Despite several days of trying, none of them were able to hack into the disc's code or access any of the music files contained within it.
"It's like, really big and stuff," said Doug Flamboise, one of the testers. "I couldn't get it into any of my drives. I mean, what format is it? Is it, like, from France or something?"
In the new format, raw audio data in the form of music is encoded by physically etching grooves onto the vinyl disc. The sound is thus translated into variations on the disc's surface in a process that industry insiders are describing as 'completely revolutionary' and 'stunningly clever.'
To decode the data stored on the disc, the listener must use a special player which contains a 'needle' that runs along the grooves on the record surface, reading the indentations and transforming the movements back into audio that can be fed
through loudspeakers.
Even Shawn Fanning, the man who invented Napster, admits the new format will make file swapping much more difficult. "I've never seen anything like this," he told reporters. "How does it work?"
As rumours that a Taiwanese company has been secretly developing a
12 inch wide, turntable -driven, needle-based, firewire drive remain unconfirmed, it would appear that the music industry may, at last, have found the pirate-proof format it has long been searching for.
Can't find the link right off, but someone had a page up about the RIAA discovering the Vinyl Record as the latest and greatest news in the providing copy protection.
No direct digital copying there.
Complete with puzzled script kiddes who couldn't figure out how to hack it. no bits and bytes.
Some of the face plates might be alright as a skin for a widget on a software app like winamp, etc. - But this would be completely horrid for a dashboard unit for a car.
I want something I can read easily from an appropriate distance, be it in the car, or even from across the room. It really gets annoying after a while.
I thought your original criticsm was based on the idea of the antigravity field levitating the UFO.
which it was not.
It was a military use of decreasing the intensity of gravity beneath the UFO by increasing the gravity of the UFO itself.
To be fair, it was not clear that your criticism was based on anything other than the understanding of the my writing, that I thought that the effect generated would create antigravity. which is not what I was visualizing.
After all You did say, " Are you a flaming retard, or do you just play one on TV? The post you responded to -- the exact part you quoted -- was stating that you can't generate anti-gravity fields! ". When I think of an anti gravity field, I see the typical mind experiment UFO lifting off gently into the sky by cutting off gravity, reversing gravity so that it is a thrust, not a pull.
The example I imagine for this discussion was still a pull field, not a push. Thus not a use of an anti-gravity field, but rather a clever use of an artificial gravity field.
On the other hand, this new criticism re: a static field may be valid.
although the thought of a gravity field pulsating in my general direction leaves me feeling a bit quesy. Big enough and slow enough, it could be quite nasty.
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Personally, I prefer the Ivanova option,
Since they should not have any benefit from any illegal act they have done, and since they were convicted of something, they should probably "dis-intergrate" the connection with the internet, and take anything primarily connected to the internet such as browsers, and MSN, and web server stuff, etc, and spin it all off as a separate company.
things which are not primarily an internet thing (the OS thing, Office, etc) should be retained as another company.
And the two compamnies should not be able to do any business with each other for 5 or 6 years, basically the length of time they have had the benefit of their illegal actions.
nothing much, just my rant.
flow in the dark = glow in the dark
heard them up = herd them up
[set head band mode = 1]
No, I long ago suggested spam licenses where we get to go out and give each spammer a bright orange flow in the dark permanent eartag, complete with animal tracking collar. Then we can heard them up and stampede them over a cliff or something.
what if they got into the system and overloaded it while still small so as to promote their own links and to discredit the project? Just a wild thought, not that they would ever be that organized.
I am thinking of the recent Google ranking wars, for example.
for most folks using it, it would be enough to put them off their feed if the spammers polluted the data pool early and strongly enough. Presuming that the average user was not an expert user.
I see this as part of a larger problem of people pushing competing viewpoints on the web.
Alledged nasty group "A" against alledged heroic group "B" - gets messy when things like politics and religion get involved.
On the other hand, I have found some of the responses educational.
One angle is the "follow the money" angle
Another, equally viable, is the "See the Source Code" angle.
As seen in this PDF file, property rights are often considered as a "bundle of sticks", a collection of rights which taken collectively create the concept of property and ownership. (although this is usually seen in land and realty situations, I can see how it applies elsewhere)
This ties directly into the license vs ownership arguments, etc. and would have to be sorted out in detail
Well, I do not see it this way.
GPL allows you to charge for making copies. So this fits in with other software re-distributors.
Specifically customised versions, such as Redhat, are sold commercially, and could be subject to a warranty in the boxed version for some period of time, such as a one year class of warrenty.
but the version you download for free is non-commercial.
Primary point of defition being 'did money exchange hands?" = Liability for some length of time.
Buyt his does bring up the essential point, liability for GPL vs proprietary setups like MS.
the Solution? "Follow the Money"
The point being to BREAK the curse of perpetual license with no responsibility.
Actually, many believe that if there was intelligent life, that Since MAN is made in Gods' image, and aliens probably will not look like men, and so would be demons, "fallen Angels", if you will
- Non-Comercial For which money is not charged
- Commercial for which money is charged
- Licensed Commercial For which Money is charged, but for which no sale is made.
Commercial software would include the obligation of support, although the require period of time is open to debate. I would advocate 5 years, although this could be set to several classes, such as 1 year, 3 year, 5 year, and 7 year. Each with a degree of obligation of support, liability, etc.Non Commercial would not be subject to the warranty, and so would cover open source, donation ware, shareware, etc.
Shareware, etc. would probably have to be sorted out as software where no payment is required.
I advocate that any software not sold but merely licensed must have complete liability coverage and support for the duration of the License.
This is the old axiom of "Never bring a Knife to a gun fight"
In which regard, it is interesting to read an early draft of Stars Wars, dated 1975
[NB - the Luke in this script seems to be different than the "StarKiller" character, as seen from the very final scenes]
Goes hand in hand with the adages:
- Never throw shit at a man with a gun
- Never stand beside a man throwing shit at a man with a gun
- Never stay in a house with a man who is throwing shit at a man with a gun
- etc.
You get the ideaYou must have missed this detail
"I had purchased a saber from a company that is now out of business," said 29-year-old Anthony Minichino of Brick, N.J. "Parks came along and had complete original designs. Some of them had working blades, which I'd never seen before."
Which is something to give me pause...
Working?
Just what we need for our special forces in Afghanistan.
Given the way that things have not be enforced, it is rapidly loosing the funtionality that you rightfully espouse.
I sort of think it would be useful to get rid of the trade name speculation in domain names if...... what a second, it would only push the domain name fight over to the fight to be the registrar for the TLDs.
I have images of addresses like
- Linus@web.linux
- http://hardluv.xxx
- Billg@research.microsoft
could get unweildyhttp://www.radiofreenation.com/rfn_news_titlepage. html
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I stll wonder if we would be any better off if we had gone to a system that would have allowed an infinite number of TLDs.
But this is not my primary area of expertise, and I am sure there would be some difficulties along the line.
Most of the cool things never make it to sateside.
Some japanese electronics shopping areas have become a regular pornopopulust of technologia. The land of techno-lust deluxe.
The image of a slice of bacon shows different levels of T-ray transparency for lean and fatty areas. Since fat absorbs almost no T-rays, it looks white; meat absorbs roughly 25 times as many T-rays, so it looks dark.
Many compounds changed the T-rays in characteristic ways, due to absorption or reflection. Molecules and chemical compounds, particularly in the gas phase, showed strong absorption lines that can serve as "fingerprints" of the molecules. Metals and other materials with high electrical conductivity were completely opaque to terahertz radiation.
The T-ray imaging technique is notable in that it can distinguish between different chemical compositions inside a material even when the object looks uniform in visible light. Also, most plastics are transparent to T-rays, so it can "see" inside plastic packaging.
I believe they use pulses to illuminate the targets, just so that you don't cook them
It also means that people will avoid other new formats that as effectively copy protected, because they will go ahead and buy/sell used CDS, etc. As the RIAA will discover, the "sheep" the want to sheer continue to rebel.
The only solution will be to actually have an original musical product. Not that the RIAA will be able to do this.
Looks liker the death of an industry, because the things they think they have to do, will also kill off the industry.
Okay. How about Gulahgistan or Pornopopulus?
The fictional city name really is unimportant except to suggest something vaguely in Eastern Europe where under paid programmers are sometimes plentiful.
don't worry so much.
- http://www.utilitycamo.com/
- http://www.utilitycamo.com/sites.html
- Alan Dick Enviromental Solutions
- Len Tech Telecom
Some have decent picturesBut some companies have been upset by camogflage requirements.
with a short run track, I expect that it would not be practical to accelerate to 400 mph.
It would probably take as long to merely get strapped in for a high speed run.
Actually I think they farm this out to their overseas operations in Bulgravia or someplace similar. Keeps it better for the bean counters. Plausible denial, etc.
Although I can see the scandal if it was found that they actually do have virus writers on payroll someplace.
http://www.urbanreflex.com/may24_02/record.html
No direct digital copying there.
Complete with puzzled script kiddes who couldn't figure out how to hack it. no bits and bytes.
;-)
I want something I can read easily from an appropriate distance, be it in the car, or even from across the room. It really gets annoying after a while.
which it was not.
It was a military use of decreasing the intensity of gravity beneath the UFO by increasing the gravity of the UFO itself.
To be fair, it was not clear that your criticism was based on anything other than the understanding of the my writing, that I thought that the effect generated would create antigravity. which is not what I was visualizing.
After all You did say, " Are you a flaming retard, or do you just play one on TV? The post you responded to -- the exact part you quoted -- was stating that you can't generate anti-gravity fields! ". When I think of an anti gravity field, I see the typical mind experiment UFO lifting off gently into the sky by cutting off gravity, reversing gravity so that it is a thrust, not a pull.
The example I imagine for this discussion was still a pull field, not a push. Thus not a use of an anti-gravity field, but rather a clever use of an artificial gravity field.
On the other hand, this new criticism re: a static field may be valid.
although the thought of a gravity field pulsating in my general direction leaves me feeling a bit quesy. Big enough and slow enough, it could be quite nasty.