The waterproofing itself is all so well and so good as a feature, more of an insurance thing, that's fair enough but there's no reason it has to cost the jack is my main point. Before this phone I have now I had an xperia z, waterproof and has a jack, the current samsung is waterproof and has a jack. If you'd have been on one of the iphones with a jack on the bottom you would have been perfectly fine without even the need of waterproofing.
Okay, here's what I want from my phone. 1)Phone and text. 2)internet browser 3)Music player and headphone jack. Until now all those things were basically a given on any phone. Yeah I probably wouldnt get a straight up old school dumb phone, but a lowend smart phone. If literally every phone drops the jack I'll just have to go back to carrying a seperate music player. But that ain't going to happen.
Well, I guess that means no more new expensive phones for me. If they don't do what I want it's back to dumb phones.
The most ironic statement I've heard yet.
Remember to turn off the light on yer way out the door.
How is that ironic? If something doesn't have a feature I want I won't get it? I want a phone that can double as an mp3 playing, using my headphones I already have and like without having to replace them with more expensive, inconvenient ones. But yeah, sure, I'll turn the light off, all you guys seem happy enough bumbling around in the dark anyway.
Right, I get that phones get wet and that kills them. That's a no brainer but that doesn't mean every phone needs waterproofing at the expense of other features, many more phones have cracked screens or die from impact drops yet they continue the thinness quest. How many phones have you lost to water damage? For me it's none because I realise my phone is a sensitive electronic device and I take care of it around water sources. Many a laptop have also died from water damage, why aren't they all of a sudden being waterproofed? You act as if there weren't waterproof phones before that people could get if that was an important feature for them, now that apple are doing it it's all of a sudden almost the most vital part.
You're wrong on both counts. Gasketed connectors are both bulky and failure-prone. Period.
Interesting use of the word "wrong", since you clearly disagree with his statement that making a water-proof USB connector is just as hard as a water-proof audio jack.
Perhaps I was being too hasty, posting from work.
But, as you no doubt know, what I meant was that a 3.5 mm gasketed (o-ring-equipped) connector is more bulky than a non-gasketed 3.5 mm connector, and they have a history of failing over time. PLUS, 3.5 mm connectors are much harder to waterproof than leaf-contact-type connectors, like Lightning or USB, where the backside of the leaf-contacts can simply be sealed with epoxy or other plastic.
But why do they all of a sudden have to be waterproof? Who decided that was a must have feature? Are apple following sony?
Where are all the people grousing about not being able to use their phono-plugged headphones in a Lightning connector now? Is using a USB-C to phono adapter acceptable, but for some reason lightning-to-phono isn't?
Oh, right. Not Apple, so everything is fine. My bad.
Read the thread again, plenty of moaning about that.
Samsung might, but there are and still will be plenty of phones sold specifically because they're not apple offering the exact things as selling points that apple remove.
I'm curious though exactly where apple have led that everyone followed? They didn't have the first of anything really, at best what they've done is taken some existing things, made them all swishy and brought popularity. OK the iPod may have changed the market for the better (not iTunes though) but I don't see anyone really copying apple in anything more than superficial ways, even MS' apparent quest for an apple like surge is only skin deep. The only place they seem to be truly leading is as an online shop, everything else they make just serves to funnel customers to that.
Samsung's Next Flagship Smartphone May Not Be Purchased by Me
I won't buy one either, and I have only ever had Samsung phones. I'm not worried though, there are lots of Android phone model available, and one of them will suit me just fine.
And every stinkin' one that you'll want to buy will be jackless by the next model rev.
Well, I guess that means no more new expensive phones for me. If they don't do what I want it's back to dumb phones. Actually I'd be half suprised if apple didn't turn around sue because they have a patent on single port design or someshit. Don't forget there's no samsung reality distortion field. Them trying to do what apple does won't work as well because they won't be defended to the hilt regardless of what they do, It might sell a few but watch them put the jack back in next model. It's the sd card slot all over again.
but no, macs4all, I can see that your actual motivation is to defend the retarded choice YOUR religion has already forced on you.
I suggest you get over it - some of the rest of the world prefers choice..
Says the person who just called someone a childish insulting name for his choice of phone...
The rest of the world prefers choice, unless of course it isn't the same choice you made, right?
To be fair the only choice of phone he specified was one with a headphone jack. Fuck the iphone and now fuck the samsung. Anyone else who drops it, well fuck them too.
A.txt document will be easy to reverse engineer if you get the hard drive to spin up, a Word document moderately harder but far from impossible, but a.rar archive for example? Good luck with that if the knowledge has been lost and no copies of WinRAR remain!
Thing is though, say our society is long gone and a new one is up, to find those documents in the first place they would have to have found a computer and more than likely got it working so chances are they would have the software they need. Unless they figure out which bit is the hard drive and hook it up to whatever computers they may or may not have and copy it's contents bit by bit they would be hard pressed to even tell what data is from what files. Either that or they'll think we all spoke like old school modems,
Well, I'm having a terrible time reading Shakespeare's "Love's Labour Won" and "Cardenio". All that's now known about these plays are the titles and that he wrote them. The rest is silence.
So we know they weren't good enough for people to copy them into the modern day.
That's not how you beg for us to give you our old toys.
The rest of the world should cut every cable going to/from America and let you have it. America has proven time and time again they can not be trusted. Cut them off and let them have their very own exclusive internet. You can go on and on about how 'you' invented it but you're using our language so fuck off already. Let's just route around the problem. Thanks for the idea but you fucked the job.
It's not a global asset it's a US asset we designed and built that we have been nice enough to let others use.
What like the GPS system? The original design and infrastructure may have been American designed, but the internet as a whole nowadays very much is not and you don't own it anymore than England owns the English language.
Showing your age there. There's gamers that can legally drink but have never seen a game sampler produced in their lifetimes.
I'm sorry but demos are still very much a thing, especially in the the console scene, the stores have sections for them. Not every game gets one sure, but plenty do.
Not valid at all. What if you watch a film hoping it will get better. But it doesn't. By your logic the media has been consumed, except it was a pile of crap. I believe under such circumstances one is entitled to a refund.
I disagree, refunds for defective products only in most cases. Buyers remorse is no excuse for a refund. If you buy a movie ticket and end up not enjoying the movie then shit one for you. If you buy a movie ticket and it ends up being an opera then you might have a point.
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No, just no. Listen, you buy whatever you want and I'll do the same and lets just leave it at that.
The waterproofing itself is all so well and so good as a feature, more of an insurance thing, that's fair enough but there's no reason it has to cost the jack is my main point. Before this phone I have now I had an xperia z, waterproof and has a jack, the current samsung is waterproof and has a jack. If you'd have been on one of the iphones with a jack on the bottom you would have been perfectly fine without even the need of waterproofing.
Okay, here's what I want from my phone. 1)Phone and text. 2)internet browser 3)Music player and headphone jack. Until now all those things were basically a given on any phone. Yeah I probably wouldnt get a straight up old school dumb phone, but a lowend smart phone. If literally every phone drops the jack I'll just have to go back to carrying a seperate music player. But that ain't going to happen.
Well, I guess that means no more new expensive phones for me. If they don't do what I want it's back to dumb phones.
The most ironic statement I've heard yet.
Remember to turn off the light on yer way out the door.
How is that ironic? If something doesn't have a feature I want I won't get it? I want a phone that can double as an mp3 playing, using my headphones I already have and like without having to replace them with more expensive, inconvenient ones. But yeah, sure, I'll turn the light off, all you guys seem happy enough bumbling around in the dark anyway.
Right, I get that phones get wet and that kills them. That's a no brainer but that doesn't mean every phone needs waterproofing at the expense of other features, many more phones have cracked screens or die from impact drops yet they continue the thinness quest. How many phones have you lost to water damage? For me it's none because I realise my phone is a sensitive electronic device and I take care of it around water sources. Many a laptop have also died from water damage, why aren't they all of a sudden being waterproofed? You act as if there weren't waterproof phones before that people could get if that was an important feature for them, now that apple are doing it it's all of a sudden almost the most vital part.
Interesting use of the word "wrong", since you clearly disagree with his statement that making a water-proof USB connector is just as hard as a water-proof audio jack.
Perhaps I was being too hasty, posting from work. But, as you no doubt know, what I meant was that a 3.5 mm gasketed (o-ring-equipped) connector is more bulky than a non-gasketed 3.5 mm connector, and they have a history of failing over time. PLUS, 3.5 mm connectors are much harder to waterproof than leaf-contact-type connectors, like Lightning or USB, where the backside of the leaf-contacts can simply be sealed with epoxy or other plastic.
But why do they all of a sudden have to be waterproof? Who decided that was a must have feature? Are apple following sony?
Where are all the people grousing about not being able to use their phono-plugged headphones in a Lightning connector now? Is using a USB-C to phono adapter acceptable, but for some reason lightning-to-phono isn't?
Oh, right. Not Apple, so everything is fine. My bad.
Read the thread again, plenty of moaning about that.
Samsung might, but there are and still will be plenty of phones sold specifically because they're not apple offering the exact things as selling points that apple remove.
I'm curious though exactly where apple have led that everyone followed? They didn't have the first of anything really, at best what they've done is taken some existing things, made them all swishy and brought popularity. OK the iPod may have changed the market for the better (not iTunes though) but I don't see anyone really copying apple in anything more than superficial ways, even MS' apparent quest for an apple like surge is only skin deep. The only place they seem to be truly leading is as an online shop, everything else they make just serves to funnel customers to that.
Samsung's Next Flagship Smartphone May Not Be Purchased by Me
I won't buy one either, and I have only ever had Samsung phones. I'm not worried though, there are lots of Android phone model available, and one of them will suit me just fine.
And every stinkin' one that you'll want to buy will be jackless by the next model rev.
Well, I guess that means no more new expensive phones for me. If they don't do what I want it's back to dumb phones. Actually I'd be half suprised if apple didn't turn around sue because they have a patent on single port design or someshit. Don't forget there's no samsung reality distortion field. Them trying to do what apple does won't work as well because they won't be defended to the hilt regardless of what they do, It might sell a few but watch them put the jack back in next model. It's the sd card slot all over again.
but no, macs4all, I can see that your actual motivation is to defend the retarded choice YOUR religion has already forced on you. I suggest you get over it - some of the rest of the world prefers choice..
Says the person who just called someone a childish insulting name for his choice of phone...
The rest of the world prefers choice, unless of course it isn't the same choice you made, right?
To be fair the only choice of phone he specified was one with a headphone jack. Fuck the iphone and now fuck the samsung. Anyone else who drops it, well fuck them too.
Because it went so well when they removed the sd card slot. No 3,5mm=No buy. No SD slot=No buy.
Is everything on this Internet thing true?
Yes, there are very stringent rules on who is and is not allowed a website in order to make it credible.
A .txt document will be easy to reverse engineer if you get the hard drive to spin up, a Word document moderately harder but far from impossible, but a .rar archive for example? Good luck with that if the knowledge has been lost and no copies of WinRAR remain!
Thing is though, say our society is long gone and a new one is up, to find those documents in the first place they would have to have found a computer and more than likely got it working so chances are they would have the software they need. Unless they figure out which bit is the hard drive and hook it up to whatever computers they may or may not have and copy it's contents bit by bit they would be hard pressed to even tell what data is from what files. Either that or they'll think we all spoke like old school modems,
That's why they invented 3d printers.
Well, I'm having a terrible time reading Shakespeare's "Love's Labour Won" and "Cardenio". All that's now known about these plays are the titles and that he wrote them. The rest is silence.
So we know they weren't good enough for people to copy them into the modern day.
They are in it for more than ratings. I don't know what the hell for, but it's not just ratings.
They're only in it for the cash, but to get the cash you need the ratings.
regimes who don't tolerate free speech
What, you mean like America?
That's not how you beg for us to give you our old toys.
The rest of the world should cut every cable going to/from America and let you have it. America has proven time and time again they can not be trusted. Cut them off and let them have their very own exclusive internet. You can go on and on about how 'you' invented it but you're using our language so fuck off already. Let's just route around the problem. Thanks for the idea but you fucked the job.
It's not a global asset it's a US asset we designed and built that we have been nice enough to let others use.
What like the GPS system? The original design and infrastructure may have been American designed, but the internet as a whole nowadays very much is not and you don't own it anymore than England owns the English language.
You repair it when it it stops working, not while it's working. Seriously, read and comprehend the comment before going off on one.
Ooh, let me guess... You are from the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' school of thought?
Congratulations, precious snow flake.
For reference, in my days, you would actually maintain things so they didn't break...
Yeah, maintenance is different to repair, that's why they have two completely separate words.
Friends don't use friends as canaries.
Perhaps, you were the Canary?
Showing your age there. There's gamers that can legally drink but have never seen a game sampler produced in their lifetimes.
I'm sorry but demos are still very much a thing, especially in the the console scene, the stores have sections for them. Not every game gets one sure, but plenty do.
Not valid at all. What if you watch a film hoping it will get better. But it doesn't. By your logic the media has been consumed, except it was a pile of crap. I believe under such circumstances one is entitled to a refund.
I disagree, refunds for defective products only in most cases. Buyers remorse is no excuse for a refund. If you buy a movie ticket and end up not enjoying the movie then shit one for you. If you buy a movie ticket and it ends up being an opera then you might have a point.
Well, a rocket is just a controlled explosion.