How did we ever make progress with people like you around?
Yes, let's do it your way and rewrite rock solid, decades old, high performance math libraries every time a new language hits the streets. Just think of how much progress we'd make!
my hatred of vista is based off the fact that there is a ton of stupid crap that is loaded on the OS that does nothing but look cool and slow your machine down. I don't want any fucking Aero-transparent window bullshit. I want an os that is like a formula 1 car: fast as hell and without a single non-essential part.
You realize that Aero doesn't slow your machine down, right? The processing is offloaded to the GPU. Now, if you turn Aero off, then you might see a performance hit.
Between win 2k and win7(~8 years) the memory footprint of the OS has grown from ~100mb to ~500mb.
And memory capacities and prices have decreased even faster.
I use the OS for a living. I don't have time to fuck around all day with pretty 'abc block' themes that make the desktop animate windows when they are closed.
And yet people keep going on about how great Compiz is.
I use linux at work for linux, not for its apps. ... Most of what I use that is linux specific shipped with the ISO I installed it from, some have no decent windows equivalents at all, and nearly none are built into windows.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that one. Linux is viruses free BECAUSE of its security model!
While that certainly helps, I think the article is correct: There are few Linux viruses because the market share of Linux is small. Virus writers, like any other developer, want the biggest effect for the smallest effort. I have no doubt that security holes exist in Linux, so you could write a virus is you really wanted to, but if it's only going to affect 2% of the computers out there, it's not worth the effort.
And I've seen far too many people who have actually tried both admit that linux is easier to install and it just work. Almost never have I seen the opposite to be true.
Anecdotes are not evidence, but here's an anecdote from the other side: I've installed Windows at home and Linux (Red Hat something or other) at work, and the Windows installations are always easier. Linux isn't even close. However, I've never tried Ubuntu. I understand it's much better.
Your average joe *cannot* make it more secure the linux.
I'm not sure this is true. If you leave Windows Defender and UAC on, you'll probably be fine in Vista.
Windows 7 and Vista have terrible file I/O. Its just slow and bloated. XP ran siginificantly faster with windows desktop search, comodo firewall, and nod32 anti virus installed. One would think those extra processes would slow down XP, but it was still far faster than windows 7.
I've grown to hate vista because of how poor it is. I cant stand the UI. The automatic folder views suck. Vista never gets it right.
Vista loves to eat up all of your ram, and then when a program needs lots of ram, your system takes a giant shit because Vista goes into swapping mode to dump its giant "cache" to hd.
XP (XP64 also) is a better OS all around.
Tell me, what's it like, being wrong about everything?
Yes Vista was "slow" when it came out, and still feels a bit sluggish even with a dual quad-core machine with 10k rpm disks and 4GB of ram - but that isn't my gripe.
No it doesn't. I have a Core 2 duo system with 4 GB and a 10K disk and Vista is perfectly snappy.
Yeah but how many *brand new* XP machines did you buy that ran like crap? I suspect the answer is "none" because Microsoft's recommendations to hardware manufacturers were realistic (128 meg recommended).
No, actually, XP was terrible in 128 MB. In fact, my previous Internet machine at work had a whopping 256 MB and XP still ran like crap.
In Linux all it took was a couple of mouse clicks in clearly marked buttons, a very intuitive process. "Internet" -> "Network" -> "Create..." -> "Local Area Network" -> "Static IP Address" and then enter the address, subnet mask, and gateway they gave me.
In XP I had to click "Start" -> "Control Panel" -> "Network Configuration" to start he wizard. Now the freaky part begins.
That's cool. When I installed Vista on my home-built system I don't think I had to do anything at all.
If it becomes more lucrative and less of a tax burden to be a foreign business inside one of these countries with managed trade agreements instead of a domestic one, what will happen? The business will move because tariffs and import taxes become cheaper than domestic ones. That means unemployment grows and tax revenues drop.
This administration would be well served to tread lightly, and ensure that conducting business withing the U.S. is cheaper than foreign alternatives, else the U.S. may find itself with very little businesses conducting any business at all.
I understand. We should allow companies to hold the government and its citizens hostage. Gotcha.
Please NO. I hope KDE never ever ever kills that, what you call "clutter". Because we people, who tend to *really* *use* their computers, and configure them, hate one-button apps with so configurability at all, and everything at a default that is just riiiiight... for retards....or maybe you're just a little too obsessive-compulsive about being able to set exactly the right shade of bluish gray for your window backgrounds.
I don't think anyone actually read the damned article. Microsoft isn't asking open source to compete on their terms. They're asking their open source partners to focus less on promoting how cheap their software is and more on promoting on how valuable it is.
"IT departments are not cutting their spending to zero, Ramji claimed. Instead, they are focusing on strategic projects and cutting completely those they deem to be non-critical. That's why Microsoft is advising open-source partners with whom the company is collaborating not to focus their customer pitches on costs, but instead to lead their sales pitches with "value," he said."
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How did we ever make progress with people like you around?
Yes, let's do it your way and rewrite rock solid, decades old, high performance math libraries every time a new language hits the streets. Just think of how much progress we'd make!
Yes, but with a good functional language like Haskell, you're 9/10 of the way there, not 2/3.
Good. Now how fast does your Haskell program run?
my hatred of vista is based off the fact that there is a ton of stupid crap that is loaded on the OS that does nothing but look cool and slow your machine down. I don't want any fucking Aero-transparent window bullshit. I want an os that is like a formula 1 car: fast as hell and without a single non-essential part.
You realize that Aero doesn't slow your machine down, right? The processing is offloaded to the GPU. Now, if you turn Aero off, then you might see a performance hit.
Between win 2k and win7(~8 years) the memory footprint of the OS has grown from ~100mb to ~500mb.
And memory capacities and prices have decreased even faster.
I use the OS for a living. I don't have time to fuck around all day with pretty 'abc block' themes that make the desktop animate windows when they are closed.
And yet people keep going on about how great Compiz is.
I use linux at work for linux, not for its apps.
...
Most of what I use that is linux specific shipped with the ISO I installed it from, some have no decent windows equivalents at all, and nearly none are built into windows.
So you do use Linux for the apps.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that one. Linux is viruses free BECAUSE of its security model!
While that certainly helps, I think the article is correct: There are few Linux viruses because the market share of Linux is small. Virus writers, like any other developer, want the biggest effect for the smallest effort. I have no doubt that security holes exist in Linux, so you could write a virus is you really wanted to, but if it's only going to affect 2% of the computers out there, it's not worth the effort.
And I've seen far too many people who have actually tried both admit that linux is easier to install and it just work. Almost never have I seen the opposite to be true.
Anecdotes are not evidence, but here's an anecdote from the other side: I've installed Windows at home and Linux (Red Hat something or other) at work, and the Windows installations are always easier. Linux isn't even close. However, I've never tried Ubuntu. I understand it's much better.
Your average joe *cannot* make it more secure the linux.
I'm not sure this is true. If you leave Windows Defender and UAC on, you'll probably be fine in Vista.
However, neither 2 nor 3 fixed the problems with the guards: that is, that they suddenly became near-invincible once you were discovered.
Um, there's a reason the game is called "Thief". If you are ever discovered, that's pretty much an indication that you failed.
Windows 7 and Vista have terrible file I/O. Its just slow and bloated. XP ran siginificantly faster with windows desktop search, comodo firewall, and nod32 anti virus installed. One would think those extra processes would slow down XP, but it was still far faster than windows 7.
I've grown to hate vista because of how poor it is. I cant stand the UI. The automatic folder views suck. Vista never gets it right.
Vista loves to eat up all of your ram, and then when a program needs lots of ram, your system takes a giant shit because Vista goes into swapping mode to dump its giant "cache" to hd.
XP (XP64 also) is a better OS all around.
Tell me, what's it like, being wrong about everything?
Yes Vista was "slow" when it came out, and still feels a bit sluggish even with a dual quad-core machine with 10k rpm disks and 4GB of ram - but that isn't my gripe.
No it doesn't. I have a Core 2 duo system with 4 GB and a 10K disk and Vista is perfectly snappy.
At a hospital where I consult, none of the software developed by companies like GE and Siemens work under Vista.
And that is Vista's fault... how? My guess is that they were using some unofficial non-standard hacks that no longer work.
Yeah but how many *brand new* XP machines did you buy that ran like crap? I suspect the answer is "none" because Microsoft's recommendations to hardware manufacturers were realistic (128 meg recommended).
No, actually, XP was terrible in 128 MB. In fact, my previous Internet machine at work had a whopping 256 MB and XP still ran like crap.
I tried Vista, even for a few minutes, I will kill the next person who asks me to do so.
I think you should give it another try. I really like it. :)
Rate all you want, it is all true, none of this is opinion.
Yes it is, and a wrong one at that.
* Stick with Open Office and still handle most Office documents.
Oh yes, "most" Office documents. If you're lucky.
* Unlimited applications.
Yes, but how many text editors do you really need?
In Linux all it took was a couple of mouse clicks in clearly marked buttons, a very intuitive process. "Internet" -> "Network" -> "Create..." -> "Local Area Network" -> "Static IP Address" and then enter the address, subnet mask, and gateway they gave me.
In XP I had to click "Start" -> "Control Panel" -> "Network Configuration" to start he wizard. Now the freaky part begins.
That's cool. When I installed Vista on my home-built system I don't think I had to do anything at all.
Am I?
"Give us a tax break or the economy gets a bullet!"
t's a pretty metal that doesn't tarnish or corrode, and it's relatively rare.
If it becomes more lucrative and less of a tax burden to be a foreign business inside one of these countries with managed trade agreements instead of a domestic one, what will happen? The business will move because tariffs and import taxes become cheaper than domestic ones. That means unemployment grows and tax revenues drop.
This administration would be well served to tread lightly, and ensure that conducting business withing the U.S. is cheaper than foreign alternatives, else the U.S. may find itself with very little businesses conducting any business at all.
I understand. We should allow companies to hold the government and its citizens hostage. Gotcha.
There is nothing even remotely "Reagan-ish" about Arlen Specter.
I knew there was something I liked about him.
...as opposed to what we have now?
My estimate is that by September we will be seeing some pretty hefty inflation.
Bet you a dollar we won't.
Why has gold been a universal currency for the past 5,000 years?
Because it's pretty. That's about it.
Please NO. I hope KDE never ever ever kills that, what you call "clutter". Because we people, who tend to *really* *use* their computers, and configure them, hate one-button apps with so configurability at all, and everything at a default that is just riiiiight... for retards. ...or maybe you're just a little too obsessive-compulsive about being able to set exactly the right shade of bluish gray for your window backgrounds.
I don't think anyone actually read the damned article. Microsoft isn't asking open source to compete on their terms. They're asking their open source partners to focus less on promoting how cheap their software is and more on promoting on how valuable it is.
"IT departments are not cutting their spending to zero, Ramji claimed. Instead, they are focusing on strategic projects and cutting completely those they deem to be non-critical. That's why Microsoft is advising open-source partners with whom the company is collaborating not to focus their customer pitches on costs, but instead to lead their sales pitches with "value," he said."
Yes. It was much, much better than NWN1.