TOS are not enforcable in courts, they are nothing more than wishlists that companies write hoping people don't realize they don't have to abide by them.
I dont use facebook anymore, trust me, the "friends" I had on there, I don't miss... My real friends now how to contact me, phone, IRC, Jabber, email etc... they don't need a facebook to be the middle man (yes, i have my own mail server, jabber, IRC etc..)
Terms of Services (or whatever they choose to call it) have very little credibility in court. It is always up to the judge to decide if the Terms of Services are reasonable.
Most of the time TOS can be safely ignored, yes ignored, but most people don't know that and of course companies dont want you to know that.
Basically it means: surrender your rights, don't complain, if you want to keep your "friends"...
However, as far as I can tell they never completely terminate an account they still exploit your data for all its worth... You just cant access it anymore.
I hope he gets what he is suing for; i have absolutely no sympathy for facebook and i'd really would like to see this privacy rapping buggy mess of a site get what it deserve, that is, bankrupcy and investigation into its data retention policies.
Honestly, I'd quite enjoy to see Zuckerberg and friends behind bars.
I didn't say it doesn't matter but at the end of the day does it really change your life? (in the same way as "does whats on the news change YOUR life ?")
This is something a bit alien to me; download usage limits...
I was shocked to see that in the UK people do not have unlimited ISPs...
I can understand some traffic limits on hosting but on residential lines... I just don't get it, either ISPs in the UK are ultra-greedy or their equipement is outdated, or both.
How do you manage to download porn? what about online games? Yeah online games could get tricky then with download limits, who is going to refund your bandwidth when you need to download yet another update to WoW? TF2? etc... Playing online games in the UK seems like a very very costly hobby; shouldn't game companies refund you based on how much bandwidth their game/updates uses?
So yes there are more and more religious people, maybe, but thats because science is more and more shit (vanity "scientific" studies and bored university students projects that are nothing new or interesting).
Yes I agree it is depressing. Seems humanity has nothing better to do but publish an endless stream of bunk studies and statistics... Can't people just enjoy life the way it is ? NOOO WE GOTTA ANALYSE THE HECK OUT OF IT IN THE HOPES WE CAN CHANGE IT EVEN IF WE DONT GET ANYTHING OUT OF IT...
Emeritus professors really have nothing else to do ? Can't they you know hunt down university girls and propose to "help improve their grades", like they usually do instead of pushing rubbish like this ?
They ARE offfering it for free, it is an association, there is nothing in it for them. They are fierce defenders of net neutrality, they have been around for quite a while now.
A great use of time and resources. What has humanity come to? Aren't there more pressing matters to attend to but prosecute random people because they may or may not have scared huge corporations ?
Also on the pirateparty UK site I have to rage at vagueness of the laws quoted here:
1. A person is guilty of an offence if- a. he does any unauthorised act in relation to a computer;
Define "unauthorised" ? (and obviously this doesn't apply to women...)
1. This subsection applies if the person intends by doing the act- a. to impair the operation of any computer;
So this applies to ISPs doing some filtering since they are crippling my computer's capabilties?
b. to prevent or hinder access to any program or data held in any computer;
You mean people cannot "hinder" access to their data by using passwords and such ? so root accounts should have no password ?
Why doesn't Facebook give the money thus awarded to the people who actually got their accounts hacked ? Isn't it up to Facebook to compensate the users?
But the again, Facebook is run by greedy bastards... oh ok no surprise there then
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TOS are not enforcable in courts, they are nothing more than wishlists that companies write hoping people don't realize they don't have to abide by them.
I dont use facebook anymore, trust me, the "friends" I had on there, I don't miss... My real friends now how to contact me, phone, IRC, Jabber, email etc ... they don't need a facebook to be the middle man (yes, i have my own mail server, jabber, IRC etc..)
What this man said.
Terms of Services (or whatever they choose to call it) have very little credibility in court. It is always up to the judge to decide if the Terms of Services are reasonable.
Most of the time TOS can be safely ignored, yes ignored, but most people don't know that and of course companies dont want you to know that.
Basically it means: surrender your rights, don't complain, if you want to keep your "friends"...
However, as far as I can tell they never completely terminate an account they still exploit your data for all its worth... You just cant access it anymore.
I hope he gets what he is suing for; i have absolutely no sympathy for facebook and i'd really would like to see this privacy rapping buggy mess of a site get what it deserve, that is, bankrupcy and investigation into its data retention policies.
Honestly, I'd quite enjoy to see Zuckerberg and friends behind bars.
yeah, you wouldn't them RAPED, or TAKEN or even TERRORIZED would you?
That's why the BBC should pay you to watch their programmes on iPlayer :D so you can afford the bandwidth
It really makes reading comments a pain...
I didn't say it doesn't matter but at the end of the day does it really change your life?
(in the same way as "does whats on the news change YOUR life ?")
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The thing is, internet is not the endgame anyway; there will be other venues...
Ah Americans, ok so it will only affect people with low IQ then.
what a waste of life... can't people just stop bickering about meaningless things?
will it matter next week? next month? in a year?
This is something a bit alien to me; download usage limits...
I was shocked to see that in the UK people do not have unlimited ISPs...
I can understand some traffic limits on hosting but on residential lines...
I just don't get it, either ISPs in the UK are ultra-greedy or their equipement is outdated, or both.
How do you manage to download porn? what about online games?
Yeah online games could get tricky then with download limits, who is going to refund your bandwidth when you need to download
yet another update to WoW? TF2? etc...
Playing online games in the UK seems like a very very costly hobby; shouldn't game companies refund you based on how much bandwidth
their game/updates uses?
I found UK connections to be outrageously expensive for what you get, but hey im just french...
I dunno why I was flamebaited...
People confuse religion and spirituality sadly...
Religion is following some order... like politics or hell, just laws... or... lol, science!
Spirituality is none of these things.
Sadly a lot of science looks like junk nowadays.
So yes there are more and more religious people, maybe, but thats because science is more and more shit (vanity "scientific" studies and bored university students projects that are nothing new or interesting).
Yes I agree it is depressing. Seems humanity has nothing better to do but publish an endless stream of bunk studies and statistics...
Can't people just enjoy life the way it is ? NOOO WE GOTTA ANALYSE THE HECK OUT OF IT IN THE HOPES WE CAN CHANGE IT EVEN IF WE DONT GET ANYTHING OUT OF IT...
No no you read wrong, it is not scientists breeding here...
Dumb people are not reproducing more.
What a ******* load of bunk !
Emeritus professors really have nothing else to do ? Can't they you know hunt down university girls and propose to "help improve their grades", like they usually do instead of pushing rubbish like this ?
toto comes from a lame french kindergarten thing...
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They ARE offfering it for free, it is an association, there is nothing in it for them. They are fierce defenders of net neutrality, they have been around for quite a while now.
Yeah it is an association where members split the overall cost of the network.
I'll possibly go with them eventually because other ISPs in france insist on making you pay for services you do not want, like TV...
A great use of time and resources. What has humanity come to? Aren't there more pressing matters to attend to but prosecute random people because they may or may not have scared huge corporations ?
Also on the pirateparty UK site I have to rage at vagueness of the laws quoted here:
1. A person is guilty of an offence if-
a. he does any unauthorised act in relation to a computer;
Define "unauthorised" ? (and obviously this doesn't apply to women...)
1. This subsection applies if the person intends by doing the act-
a. to impair the operation of any computer;
So this applies to ISPs doing some filtering since they are crippling my computer's capabilties?
b. to prevent or hinder access to any program or data held in any computer;
You mean people cannot "hinder" access to their data by using passwords and such ? so root accounts should have no password ?
Why doesn't Facebook give the money thus awarded to the people who actually got their accounts hacked ? Isn't it up to Facebook to compensate the users?
But the again, Facebook is run by greedy bastards... oh ok no surprise there then