Apache 2.0.40 didn't work as a reverse proxy with disk caching for me. It would write the cache files, but never deliver them. Quite hairy to find out. You fiddle and fiddle on your headers, because you think they are the culprit, but you get never the performance you think you should get.
This bug was confirmed from apache developers, but it well might be fixed now (I'm back to apache1).
Apache1 is perfectly up to the task, but be sure you understand what headers the backend servers have to send in order to make apache cache the stuff.
I have nothing to do with firebird, the database, but I can understand their concerns. And while this document seems to try to remedy much problems, I expect that not to work in the real world. The biggest problem for firebird the db is IMO namespace pollution on search engines. Not from the dull marketing standpoint, but from the developer standpoint, because it makes it harder to find archived mailing list/news messages which might cover a problem a developer might face.
This document won't change that, I fear.
PS: I'm no legal expert, but if they wanted to use the names as codenames, why did they have to involve the legal team before?
Man, I have probably more money than SCO's market capitalization is. If not now, then in 6 months, and I'm not expecting a huge wealth in the near future.
If you follow the linux kernel mailinglist, you see it's absolutely absurd that any source code could have been copied verbatim into the linux kernels source. For this to happen there would have to have someone come out of the blue, write a mail to linus saying "Hi, here are 534534534 lines of patches adding l44t SMP capabilites, please apply" and linus would have done that. Something like that did never happen. They are trying to sell the last months of their companies' existance to the highest bidder, by hoping that making lot of noises will make someone do it, that's all. The nearer their end is, the more noise they have to make.
Let's just hope they won't kidnap Linus or stuff like that.
but I'd think you'd watch F1 if you wanted to hear about ridiculously insane car technology
Indeed, and while offtopic, I wanna give one example: A F1 car accelerates from 300 km/h to 0 in 3 (thats 3) seconds. All by itself, without the help of a solid wall;). If that isn't fascinating...
What happens when she goes to WindowsUpdate with her tricked out Mozila and it doesn't work?
Easy, the next version of the theme will detect if you are going to windowsupdate.microsoft.com (or whatever it's call), it will even have a menu item for that. And then, it will display some nilly willy phrases with nice pictures, some Active-here, some Intelli-there, some buttons to click. After you click on "Update", it will spin for a while, showing a nice (slowwwwly growing) progress bar, reboot the puter after 20 minutes and show up again with some slightly modified colors (occasionally, it should just refuse to "install", just to be more realistic). Oh, and I forgot to mention it should show a 25 page "End User License Agreement". Voila.
What happens when she goes to a site that says "This site requires Internet Explorer' and the site doesn't render properly?
It will also have a regexp:.* requires Internet Explorer.*, and if it triggers:
goatse.cx (but with the original URI in the location bar)
I bet this will highly raise "webdevelopers" awareness of alternative browsers.
Let's see what pros and cons for mozilla insisting on keeping the name firebird I could imagine:
cons:
customer confusion : "firebird has a problem with complicated tables", "firebird x.y.z is out", "the contentent mgmt. system has a plugin for firebird" etc.
namespace pollution in search engines, mozilla/firebird will quickly get high ranks in google, and it's unclear to me how to surely filter out the non-db related pages
*Not that none of the above can be applied to firebird the car, so all these arguments are completely silly.*
pros:
None Ok, they have to find another name - big deal
If I weigh these against each other, I know what I think the mozilla guys should do. Especially since while the cons seem to be negligible, you have to multiply each additional query on google, and each miscommunication, by the number of occasions it will happen. Then they add up.
Funny how everyone understands that reasoning with things they are affected by themselves (e.g. spam), but don't think about when it affects others and is caused by an open source poster child.
This would be especially efficient for the keyfobs that are part of the key structure themselves, so that they are directly connected to the steering column (as opposed to the ones that are simple part of the keychain and just dangle under the steering column)
Or you could just recharge the rechargeble battery through the contact at the key when it's plugged in? Actually, that is how it is done.
The problem is, when this chip would fair quite well in the numbers you call "meaningless", the chip itself would be meaningless much faster. That gives some meaning to the numbers.
germany in that time killed a coupla million guys which were not only armed with guns, but with tanks, artillery, planes and whatnot. Do you really think some guns would have made a difference for the jews? The only difference would have been that the nazis also would have given them the "terrorist" (or the equivalent word in that time, maybe "enemey of the state") label and today some more fuckwits would use that as an additional argument for a distorted presentation of history.
Think about it from a practical POV. Say you have a problem with firebird corrupting tables (I'm sure it doesn't just an example). Now you go to google and enter 'firebird "corrupt tables"' just to find 2323007734 hits about a browsers rendering bugs. This sucks.
And adding "sql" or "database" might miss a lot of hits (because e.g. pages in mailing list archives might not carry one of these also). Oh, and it doesn't even rule out getting mozilla/firebird results.
Search for firebird at goole. the db comes up very often. mozilla going firebird results namespace pollution on google and it will it make much harder to find anything related to firebird, the db. ALso it makes conversation really hard "Hey, IT Guy, thought about using firebird in your shop" "Nah, IE6 is enough for me.."
Nobody can argue that this will not be an inconvenience for the firebird(db) guys, but this is what the mozilla guys (as I read here) reportedly did.
You ever trip over something small in the dark? That's what happened to you. I don't think AOL or Mozilla or 90% of the IT industry knew you existed. By the sound of the yelp, I'd say that the Mozilla folks accidently stepped on IBPheonix's little "puppy".
Look at the first result. The FIRST!!! If mozilla will use firebird, these guys will be quickly pushed back to result 10-1000, so nobody say that this won't hurt them.
Yeah, and the exec from microsoft who cleaned up microsofts anti trust catastrophes should lead the departement of justice.
Please, the more data a company like doubleclick is can grab from/about people (legally), the more profitable they are. Do you really think the most important criterium she had to meet was being a privacy evangelist??? She just had to play one on TV. OTOH, that probably make her a perfect fit for her new job.
what people keep seeming to misunderstand, is that that a 3-manifold is NOT a 3 dimensional object. when we speak of manifolds, we only care about the surface of the object, not its volume. therefore a 3-manifold is one with a 3 dimensional surface, i.e. a 4 dimensional object.
Unfortunately, the reality (sic!) is a little bit more complicated. Terms as surface and volume as you use them don't make sense with topological objects. The problem is that you are implying that a 3-manifold is the surface of something 4 dimensional, and therefore it is a "4-dimensional object". This is not a good way to think about it. When we think of a 2-sphere, it's more or less "luck" that we can imagine the 2-sphere as a 3-dimensional object (or the "surface" of a 3 dimensional object). What our brain implicitly does is to "embed" (*cough*, this word doesn't sound right nowadays) the 2-dimensional manifold in R^3. But this doesn't always work. See for instance the Klein Bottle, a two dimensional manifold. Since it's non-orientable, it has no "interior" and can't be thought of a "surface" of a 3 dimensional body. Worse, you can't embed it in R^3 at all. You can embed it in R^4, though.
I agree that Apple needs to get on the ball with speed, but there are a few uniprocessor RISC systems at 1GHz that can slap around a 2.5 to 3.0GHz equivalent x86 systems.
I doubt that. Care to give one example? I know that alphas are quite good at fp, i.e. at 1,1Ghz they are roughly 25% faster than an 3 Ghz P4, but at integer the P4 is roughly 40% faster than the alpha. I wouldn't call that "slap around". And _if_ apple would go with an such an alpha 21364 (this is the fastest alpha as far as I know, which is not very far), I really don't want to know what that system would cost.
Looking at the current situation, I think the question is more: what percentage of shops will now stay with Microsoft, instead of going with linux. This could have started quite some migration, if windows wouldn't have been available on the processor which might offer vastly superior price/performance ratio in the mid term. I'd interpret that as a sign of microsofts assessment of the future chances of x86-64.
Mozilla knows if a response it got is faulty when it came with a http status code which indicated something when wrong, a 404 "Not found", a 500 "Internal Server Error", whatever. That also explains what I mean with server error. For example go to http://slashdot.org/this_gives_us_a_404_not_found
Right click, "view page source". Do this two times. Compare the source code. You'll see the source codes will differ, because of the slashdot ad rotation (I tried, they differed every time). Additionally, if your connection is slow enough, you'll "feel" the delay when mozilla reloads the page.
When coding in Zope (quick plug, try it and compare to php, it's another world, I went this route myself), it's quite easy and handy to include the error tracebacks into the source of your app, enclosed in html comments, so you have to look at the source to see them. Granted, it's easy to not enclose the tracebacks in html-comments, but it's quite handy to be able to hide the ugly messages from customers on a development server.
Mostly this is no problem with zope, since it's transaction aware and rolls back everything (including sql stuff, no more db->commits and rollbacks sprinkled through your app, nice!) on errors, but the fact stays that I want to see the source of the page I'm looking at, not of something which might, or might not, tell me what went wrong.
Oh, and another gripe I have with mozilla is that it doesn't take the content of textboxes into account when you search on a web page.
Well, while you are right that *this* has very little to do with scalability of linux, you might be delighted to see that $big_number-cpu systems are profiting quite well from newest linux scalability work (read till the end of that page).
I really hope this was a joke. If not, try to find a meaning of the sentence "sort out individual threads" which doesn't imply a missing feature of his mail client, there really is one.
Preemt means preemtive in kernel space, you are talking about userspace. kerneltrap has an interview IIRC with Robert Love where the ins and outs are explained, if not, try google.
Out of curiosity I just looked up a similar machine at IBM. I found the HS20 with a 2Ghz Xeon at $1,879.00, but without a drive. Going with a RedHat 7.3 and 36GB scsi makes that $2,577.00 USD.
From the first look it might be that the sun is indeed a little bit cheaper (because of 64bit PCI and 4x GbEthernet and the proc), but it doesn't mean that the IBM hasn't a better price/performance ratio for many *applications* (because of the faster CPU and OS for this configuration). OTOH IBM isn't known as the cheapest vendor on earth, too.
The problem for sun is that if IBM would decide to go with opteron, they would smoke such a configuration in every price/performance comparison I could imagine, if what we hear about opteron performance is true and if opteron prices come down to a decent level.
The problem for sun (or any other linux competitor) might be that the space, where the advantage of their "tool" is suffiently better to justify shelling out extra bucks for it, is getting smaller and smaller. This might lead to the situation where the vendor of the "other" tool can't generate enough profits to hold his advantage in that area. Granted, I don't see Microsoft in that position for the forseeable future, but Sun is another story.
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Apache 2.0.40 didn't work as a reverse proxy with disk caching for me. It would write the cache files, but never deliver them. Quite hairy to find out. You fiddle and fiddle on your headers, because you think they are the culprit, but you get never the performance you think you should get.
This bug was confirmed from apache developers, but it well might be fixed now (I'm back to apache1).
Apache1 is perfectly up to the task, but be sure you understand what headers the backend servers have to send in order to make apache cache the stuff.
I have nothing to do with firebird, the database, but I can understand their concerns. And while this document seems to try to remedy much problems, I expect that not to work in the real world.
The biggest problem for firebird the db is IMO namespace pollution on search engines. Not from the dull marketing standpoint, but from the developer standpoint, because it makes it harder to find archived mailing list/news messages which might cover a problem a developer might face.
This document won't change that, I fear.
PS: I'm no legal expert, but if they wanted to use the names as codenames, why did they have to involve the legal team before?
Man, I have probably more money than SCO's market capitalization is. If not now, then in 6 months, and I'm not expecting a huge wealth in the near future.
If you follow the linux kernel mailinglist, you see it's absolutely absurd that any source code could have been copied verbatim into the linux kernels source. For this to happen there would have to have someone come out of the blue, write a mail to linus saying "Hi, here are 534534534 lines of patches adding l44t SMP capabilites, please apply" and linus would have done that.
Something like that did never happen.
They are trying to sell the last months of their companies' existance to the highest bidder, by hoping that making lot of noises will make someone do it, that's all. The nearer their end is, the more noise they have to make.
Let's just hope they won't kidnap Linus or stuff like that.
but I'd think you'd watch F1 if you wanted to hear about ridiculously insane car technology
;). ...
Indeed, and while offtopic, I wanna give one example:
A F1 car accelerates from 300 km/h to 0 in 3 (thats 3) seconds. All by itself, without the help of a solid wall
If that isn't fascinating
What happens when she goes to WindowsUpdate with her tricked out Mozila and it doesn't work?
.* requires Internet Explorer .*, and if it triggers:
Easy, the next version of the theme will detect if you are going to windowsupdate.microsoft.com (or whatever it's call), it will even have a menu item for that. And then, it will display some nilly willy phrases with nice pictures, some Active-here, some Intelli-there, some buttons to click. After you click on "Update", it will spin for a while, showing a nice (slowwwwly growing) progress bar, reboot the puter after 20 minutes and show up again with some slightly modified colors (occasionally, it should just refuse to "install", just to be more realistic).
Oh, and I forgot to mention it should show a 25 page "End User License Agreement".
Voila.
What happens when she goes to a site that says "This site requires Internet Explorer' and the site doesn't render properly?
It will also have a regexp:
goatse.cx (but with the original URI in the location bar)
I bet this will highly raise "webdevelopers" awareness of alternative browsers.
cons:
customer confusion : "firebird has a problem with complicated tables", "firebird x.y.z is out", "the contentent mgmt. system has a plugin for firebird" etc.
namespace pollution in search engines, mozilla/firebird will quickly get high ranks in google, and it's unclear to me how to surely filter out the non-db related pages
*Not that none of the above can be applied to firebird the car, so all these arguments are completely silly.*
pros:
None
Ok, they have to find another name - big deal
If I weigh these against each other, I know what I think the mozilla guys should do. Especially since while the cons seem to be negligible, you have to multiply each additional query on google, and each miscommunication, by the number of occasions it will happen. Then they add up.
Funny how everyone understands that reasoning with things they are affected by themselves (e.g. spam), but don't think about when it affects others and is caused by an open source poster child.
This would be especially efficient for the keyfobs that are part of the key structure themselves, so that they are directly connected to the steering column (as opposed to the ones that are simple part of the keychain and just dangle under the steering column)
Or you could just recharge the rechargeble battery through the contact at the key when it's plugged in?
Actually, that is how it is done.
The problem is, when this chip would fair quite well in the numbers you call "meaningless", the chip itself would be meaningless much faster. That gives some meaning to the numbers.
Ahem,
germany in that time killed a coupla million guys which were not only armed with guns, but with tanks, artillery, planes and whatnot.
Do you really think some guns would have made a difference for the jews?
The only difference would have been that the nazis also would have given them the "terrorist" (or the equivalent word in that time, maybe "enemey of the state") label and today some more fuckwits would use that as an additional argument for a distorted presentation of history.
I'd prefer "jlosass"
Think about it from a practical POV.
Say you have a problem with firebird corrupting tables (I'm sure it doesn't just an example).
Now you go to google and enter 'firebird "corrupt tables"' just to find 2323007734 hits about a browsers rendering bugs. This sucks.
And adding "sql" or "database" might miss a lot of hits (because e.g. pages in mailing list archives might not carry one of these also). Oh, and it doesn't even rule out getting mozilla/firebird results.
Search for firebird at goole. the db comes up very often. mozilla going firebird results namespace pollution on google and it will it make much harder to find anything related to firebird, the db.
ALso it makes conversation really hard "Hey, IT Guy, thought about using firebird in your shop" "Nah, IE6 is enough for me.."
Nobody can argue that this will not be an inconvenience for the firebird(db) guys, but this is what the mozilla guys (as I read here) reportedly did.
They are wrong.
You ever trip over something small in the dark? That's what happened to you. I don't think AOL or Mozilla or 90% of the IT industry knew you existed. By the sound of the yelp, I'd say that the Mozilla folks accidently stepped on IBPheonix's little "puppy".
= firebird
How hard could that be to find out?
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q
Look at the first result. The FIRST!!!
If mozilla will use firebird, these guys will be quickly pushed back to result 10-1000, so nobody say that this won't hurt them.
IOW, AOL/the mozilla guys fucked up.
Are you aware how much information a company like DoubleClick can/could use cookies to track everything about you?
I'm not interested to regulate their use of cookies, I'm interested in regulating how they can use _and_ store that data.
Yeah, and the exec from microsoft who cleaned up microsofts anti trust catastrophes should lead the departement of justice.
Please, the more data a company like doubleclick is can grab from/about people (legally), the more profitable they are. Do you really think the most important criterium she had to meet was being a privacy evangelist???
She just had to play one on TV.
OTOH, that probably make her a perfect fit for her new job.
what people keep seeming to misunderstand, is that that a 3-manifold is NOT a 3 dimensional object. when we speak of manifolds, we only care about the surface of the object, not its volume. therefore a 3-manifold is one with a 3 dimensional surface, i.e. a 4 dimensional object.
Unfortunately, the reality (sic!) is a little bit more complicated. Terms as surface and volume as you use them don't make sense with topological objects. The problem is that you are implying that a 3-manifold is the surface of something 4 dimensional, and therefore it is a "4-dimensional object". This is not a good way to think about it. When we think of a 2-sphere, it's more or less "luck" that we can imagine the 2-sphere as a 3-dimensional object (or the "surface" of a 3 dimensional object). What our brain implicitly does is to "embed" (*cough*, this word doesn't sound right nowadays) the 2-dimensional manifold in R^3. But this doesn't always work. See for instance the Klein Bottle, a two dimensional manifold. Since it's non-orientable, it has no "interior" and can't be thought of a "surface" of a 3 dimensional body. Worse, you can't embed it in R^3 at all. You can embed it in R^4, though.
I agree that Apple needs to get on the ball with speed, but there are a few uniprocessor RISC systems at 1GHz that can slap around a 2.5 to 3.0GHz equivalent x86 systems.
I doubt that. Care to give one example? I know that alphas are quite good at fp, i.e. at 1,1Ghz they are roughly 25% faster than an 3 Ghz P4, but at integer the P4 is roughly 40% faster than the alpha. I wouldn't call that "slap around".
And _if_ apple would go with an such an alpha 21364 (this is the fastest alpha as far as I know, which is not very far), I really don't want to know what that system would cost.
Looking at the current situation, I think the question is more: what percentage of shops will now stay with Microsoft, instead of going with linux. This could have started quite some migration, if windows wouldn't have been available on the processor which might offer vastly superior price/performance ratio in the mid term.
I'd interpret that as a sign of microsofts assessment of the future chances of x86-64.
So many questions ;).
Mozilla knows if a response it got is faulty when it came with a http status code which indicated something when wrong, a 404 "Not found", a 500 "Internal Server Error", whatever.
That also explains what I mean with server error.
For example go to
http://slashdot.org/this_gives_us_a_404_not_found
Right click, "view page source". Do this two times. Compare the source code.
You'll see the source codes will differ, because of the slashdot ad rotation (I tried, they differed every time). Additionally, if your connection is slow enough, you'll "feel" the delay when mozilla reloads the page.
When coding in Zope (quick plug, try it and compare to php, it's another world, I went this route myself), it's quite easy and handy to include the error tracebacks into the source of your app, enclosed in html comments, so you have to look at the source to see them. Granted, it's easy to not enclose the tracebacks in html-comments, but it's quite handy to be able to hide the ugly messages from customers on a development server.
Mostly this is no problem with zope, since it's transaction aware and rolls back everything (including sql stuff, no more db->commits and rollbacks sprinkled through your app, nice!) on errors, but the fact stays that I want to see the source of the page I'm looking at, not of something which might, or might not, tell me what went wrong.
Oh, and another gripe I have with mozilla is that it doesn't take the content of textboxes into account when you search on a web page.
Well, while you are right that *this* has very little to do with scalability of linux, you might be delighted to see that $big_number-cpu systems are profiting quite well from newest linux scalability work (read till the end of that page).
105.02user 14.50system 0:04.83elapsed 2474%CPU
(0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k0inputs+0outputs
(394245major+570713minor)pagefaults 0swaps
isn't too shabby for compiling a whole kernel, is it?
I really hope this was a joke. If not, try to find a meaning of the sentence "sort out individual threads" which doesn't imply a missing feature of his mail client, there really is one.
Preemt means preemtive in kernel space, you are talking about userspace. kerneltrap has an interview IIRC with Robert Love where the ins and outs are explained, if not, try google.
Out of curiosity I just looked up a similar machine at IBM. I found the HS20 with a 2Ghz Xeon at $1,879.00, but without a drive.
Going with a RedHat 7.3 and 36GB scsi makes that $2,577.00 USD.
From the first look it might be that the sun is indeed a little bit cheaper (because of 64bit PCI and 4x GbEthernet and the proc), but it doesn't mean that the IBM hasn't a better price/performance ratio for many *applications* (because of the faster CPU and OS for this configuration). OTOH IBM isn't known as the cheapest vendor on earth, too.
The problem for sun is that if IBM would decide to go with opteron, they would smoke such a configuration in every price/performance comparison I could imagine, if what we hear about opteron performance is true and if opteron prices come down to a decent level.
The problem for sun (or any other linux competitor) might be that the space, where the advantage of their "tool" is suffiently better to justify shelling out extra bucks for it, is getting smaller and smaller. This might lead to the situation where the vendor of the "other" tool can't generate enough profits to hold his advantage in that area. Granted, I don't see Microsoft in that position for the forseeable future, but Sun is another story.