everyone is inclined to drug use. Almost everyone at LEAST drinks alcohol, drinks beer or smokes cigarettes. And if they don't they take advil when they have headaches. Painkillers when they're hurt, etc etc. The only people who don't are the homeopaths and they only get out because they're dumb enough to believe water can do the same thing.
I dunno. I can buy into the gateway theory a bit in that it was my pot dealer who first got me try other drugs. Had I never smoked pot I wouldn't have gone from nothing to Shrooms or E but because I knew the guy and I trusted him and he'd been my dealer for awhile I figure, "Sure, I'll try it, I mean, it's free and it'll be a fun weekend with my mates, not like I'll start doing it regularly."
I think pot is a gateway drug BECAUSE it's illegal. If they legalized it and it became like beer and smokes then there would be no easy access into illegal substances. It's harder to get someone who only drinks or smokes to try hard drugs than someone who's already made a mental concession that they're willing to break the law for pot. It's basically that pot isn't dangerous enough for a lot of people to really be considered a danger enough not to do it but it creates a mental precedence in them that their dealer can play up.
True. But these sound files are given names like "cocaine" "heroin" "marijuana". They are clearly meant to be trying to emulate the experience of the drugs. I read another article about these where the author made the point that for what they do they SHOULD have names like "relaxation", "energy" etc.
The gateway argument therefore is that they're marketed as a safe version of drugs that might lead people to try out the real thing, like a demo or something. As I said in my OP, I don't think they're any more of a gateway than a movie where people on drugs have a good time. I'm in no way saying these should be illegal, my post was mostly because everyone else commenting seemed to be of the opinion that these were basically songs that parent's were freaking out about as opposed to an actual scientifically tested method specifically designed to create certain mental and physical effects in the listener.
was this just a workaround to point out a typo or are you honestly claiming that you understand something you have never seen heard or experienced on any meaningful level? Even if you had scientific backing for your skepticism (which I notice from your lack of linkage that you don't seem to) the best you could say is that the effects it produces are placebos. You can't discount their entire existence because it sounds unlikely to you or because I left out an h.
well you CAN but it makes you an ignorant moron no better than the anti-evolution crowd.
"Binaural Beats" actually do produce pysiological effects by stimulating certain parts of the brain, but they're pretty weak in my experience, slight lethargy or increased heart rate at best. I know some people who are highly susceptible to them and get strong effects but even they find them to be too much trouble for the effect and only used them a few times as a novelty.
that said, the idea that they could work as a gateway to drugs isn't TECHNICALLY without merit. Trying these could lead to wanting to see what the real drug they're supposed to be emulating is like. But you're just as, if not more, likely to want to try drugs after watching Dazed and Confused than listening to binaural
ah. See, that makes sense. My problem with the article was that it seemed to be trying to imply Courtney Love was broke and penniless because of those damn recording companies when I'm pretty sure her net worth is over 50 million. The summary especially and TFA even, do a poor job of conveying that the records are only a small part of the income and seemed, to me, to be trying to say that all these artists are broke and starving because of the RIAA.
Or, people who commit who are depressed enough to require antidepressants are most likely to commit suicide before the medication can start taking effect. Since to actually go GET antidepressants you need to be pretty bad off I'd say it's just as, if not more, likely that the suicide is related less to the antidepressants than the depression. Which is to say, depression causes both suicide and antidepressant prescriptions as opposed to antidepressants causing suicide.
if all the bands end up with 0 dollars how does MTV Cribs work? Like, most chart topping musicians have boatloads of money, if they're getting screwed down to nothing where is that coming from?
"well as the article I'm talking points out, my fucking antennae isn't working and last time I called you said it was a software problem so I linked this article showing an independent test proving it's a hardware one. So if you could fucking do something about it that would be awesome."
Why does being wrong about something take away her authority? I've corrected other teachers and what they've done is: stopped, checked what I said, gone either A: "Nope, I was right." or B: "whoops, I guess I was misinformed". If your grasp over your class is so tenuous that if you make any mistake you think it'll cost you your authority then you aren't fit to be a teacher.
Grade 9 computers. Kept trying to tell me that the CPU was the entire computer. I almost got detention a few times for refusing to back down on my stance that, no, in fact, it is not. I suppose I learned to check my teachers ahead of time so I could avoid having her again but if it weren't for me and my friend who also knew the first thing about computers the entire class would have been taught that a CPU and a PC were synonyms.
Well let me start by clearing up the fact that I think RealId is a terrible idea that will solve nothing as a few people seem to have concluded I was for it. I'm not. It won't help.
What I'm saying is that increased levels of moderation are needed on forums with a large quantity of young people who have to relate with each other for extended periods.
What I would suspect happens on the blizzard forums is that the mods read the topics names as they come up and watch anything that could get incendiary and then rely on users complaining for anything else (because trust me, users will complain. I had to turn off email notification and I was only a forum of 1000 or so.) Plus they probably have word filter and algorithms as you said that look for key word combinations and send an alert to that board's staff go check it out if the flag gets triggered.
I wouldn't know. I don't play WoW. The forums I was working for had a general discussion thread for ANYTHING. It was supposed to foster a sense of community I believe.
Personally I think that the RealId thing is retarded. Like I see where they're coming from but it's still a bad idea. I was just trying to point out that on a gaming forum tight moderation is required because a lot of dumb people and trolls will show up, since the person above me claimed that moderation wasn't about reading everything going on in the discussions which went against my personal experience.
It's not off topic if they post it in the "general discussions" forum. You have to wait for someone to actually break a rule. Besides, I don't want to just ban them all and knock off for tea. It makes me feel like a dick. Sure they start flat out trolling for the sake of it then I throw down the banhammer but you also have to deal with people who just genuinely don't realize that saying "religion is inherently retarded" to a devout christian will make them upset.
Comments of posts/videos != posts in a forum.
But rereading I suppose saying "every single" was a poor word choice. Still, on a gaming forum you need a pretty active mod staff to keep some semblance of order.
While you don't technically read EVERYTHING in your section you watch anything that looks like it'll get volatile and if there's a complaint you go back and read the entire conversation for context. The idea is that between the 10-12 of you at least one of you will read at least 90% of what gets posted.
I've moderated on actual gaming forums. You moderated a professional help exchange forum. It's a completely different dynamic and environment moderation/administration wise.
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everyone is inclined to drug use. Almost everyone at LEAST drinks alcohol, drinks beer or smokes cigarettes. And if they don't they take advil when they have headaches. Painkillers when they're hurt, etc etc. The only people who don't are the homeopaths and they only get out because they're dumb enough to believe water can do the same thing.
I dunno. I can buy into the gateway theory a bit in that it was my pot dealer who first got me try other drugs. Had I never smoked pot I wouldn't have gone from nothing to Shrooms or E but because I knew the guy and I trusted him and he'd been my dealer for awhile I figure, "Sure, I'll try it, I mean, it's free and it'll be a fun weekend with my mates, not like I'll start doing it regularly."
I think pot is a gateway drug BECAUSE it's illegal. If they legalized it and it became like beer and smokes then there would be no easy access into illegal substances. It's harder to get someone who only drinks or smokes to try hard drugs than someone who's already made a mental concession that they're willing to break the law for pot. It's basically that pot isn't dangerous enough for a lot of people to really be considered a danger enough not to do it but it creates a mental precedence in them that their dealer can play up.
until someone links their article to stumbleupon or god help them 4chan.
True. But these sound files are given names like "cocaine" "heroin" "marijuana". They are clearly meant to be trying to emulate the experience of the drugs. I read another article about these where the author made the point that for what they do they SHOULD have names like "relaxation", "energy" etc.
The gateway argument therefore is that they're marketed as a safe version of drugs that might lead people to try out the real thing, like a demo or something. As I said in my OP, I don't think they're any more of a gateway than a movie where people on drugs have a good time. I'm in no way saying these should be illegal, my post was mostly because everyone else commenting seemed to be of the opinion that these were basically songs that parent's were freaking out about as opposed to an actual scientifically tested method specifically designed to create certain mental and physical effects in the listener.
was this just a workaround to point out a typo or are you honestly claiming that you understand something you have never seen heard or experienced on any meaningful level? Even if you had scientific backing for your skepticism (which I notice from your lack of linkage that you don't seem to) the best you could say is that the effects it produces are placebos. You can't discount their entire existence because it sounds unlikely to you or because I left out an h.
well you CAN but it makes you an ignorant moron no better than the anti-evolution crowd.
"Binaural Beats" actually do produce pysiological effects by stimulating certain parts of the brain, but they're pretty weak in my experience, slight lethargy or increased heart rate at best. I know some people who are highly susceptible to them and get strong effects but even they find them to be too much trouble for the effect and only used them a few times as a novelty.
that said, the idea that they could work as a gateway to drugs isn't TECHNICALLY without merit. Trying these could lead to wanting to see what the real drug they're supposed to be emulating is like. But you're just as, if not more, likely to want to try drugs after watching Dazed and Confused than listening to binaural
I wish I had mod points to give you for that sir.
ah. See, that makes sense. My problem with the article was that it seemed to be trying to imply Courtney Love was broke and penniless because of those damn recording companies when I'm pretty sure her net worth is over 50 million. The summary especially and TFA even, do a poor job of conveying that the records are only a small part of the income and seemed, to me, to be trying to say that all these artists are broke and starving because of the RIAA.
Or, people who commit who are depressed enough to require antidepressants are most likely to commit suicide before the medication can start taking effect. Since to actually go GET antidepressants you need to be pretty bad off I'd say it's just as, if not more, likely that the suicide is related less to the antidepressants than the depression. Which is to say, depression causes both suicide and antidepressant prescriptions as opposed to antidepressants causing suicide.
^this. The antidepressants probably remove anxiety from the shrimp so they no longer worry about the light the way they're supposed to.
But why wouldn't the industry take equally huge chunks of that revenue?
if all the bands end up with 0 dollars how does MTV Cribs work? Like, most chart topping musicians have boatloads of money, if they're getting screwed down to nothing where is that coming from?
oh.
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gee.
that thing is the best thing.
I did a recent ranking of all the things and that one was the best.
When can I get an invisible monitor? That's where the 1337 hackers are at!
"Oh man! I love Glee! I'm gonna call Steve and tell him about that deal... Steve? Steve? Huh... can't seem to get through."
"well as the article I'm talking points out, my fucking antennae isn't working and last time I called you said it was a software problem so I linked this article showing an independent test proving it's a hardware one. So if you could fucking do something about it that would be awesome."
Why does being wrong about something take away her authority? I've corrected other teachers and what they've done is: stopped, checked what I said, gone either A: "Nope, I was right." or B: "whoops, I guess I was misinformed". If your grasp over your class is so tenuous that if you make any mistake you think it'll cost you your authority then you aren't fit to be a teacher.
Grade 9 computers. Kept trying to tell me that the CPU was the entire computer. I almost got detention a few times for refusing to back down on my stance that, no, in fact, it is not. I suppose I learned to check my teachers ahead of time so I could avoid having her again but if it weren't for me and my friend who also knew the first thing about computers the entire class would have been taught that a CPU and a PC were synonyms.
I can wear this in my meat house. The future is here! and it is hella gross.
Well let me start by clearing up the fact that I think RealId is a terrible idea that will solve nothing as a few people seem to have concluded I was for it. I'm not. It won't help.
What I'm saying is that increased levels of moderation are needed on forums with a large quantity of young people who have to relate with each other for extended periods.
What I would suspect happens on the blizzard forums is that the mods read the topics names as they come up and watch anything that could get incendiary and then rely on users complaining for anything else (because trust me, users will complain. I had to turn off email notification and I was only a forum of 1000 or so.) Plus they probably have word filter and algorithms as you said that look for key word combinations and send an alert to that board's staff go check it out if the flag gets triggered.
I wouldn't know. I don't play WoW. The forums I was working for had a general discussion thread for ANYTHING. It was supposed to foster a sense of community I believe.
Personally I think that the RealId thing is retarded. Like I see where they're coming from but it's still a bad idea. I was just trying to point out that on a gaming forum tight moderation is required because a lot of dumb people and trolls will show up, since the person above me claimed that moderation wasn't about reading everything going on in the discussions which went against my personal experience.
It's not off topic if they post it in the "general discussions" forum. You have to wait for someone to actually break a rule. Besides, I don't want to just ban them all and knock off for tea. It makes me feel like a dick. Sure they start flat out trolling for the sake of it then I throw down the banhammer but you also have to deal with people who just genuinely don't realize that saying "religion is inherently retarded" to a devout christian will make them upset.
Comments of posts/videos != posts in a forum.
But rereading I suppose saying "every single" was a poor word choice. Still, on a gaming forum you need a pretty active mod staff to keep some semblance of order.
While you don't technically read EVERYTHING in your section you watch anything that looks like it'll get volatile and if there's a complaint you go back and read the entire conversation for context. The idea is that between the 10-12 of you at least one of you will read at least 90% of what gets posted.
I've moderated on actual gaming forums. You moderated a professional help exchange forum. It's a completely different dynamic and environment moderation/administration wise.
The Gates Foundation might pick it up...
Sounds like it could still lead to some sticky situations! nyuk nyuk nyuk...