Occam's razor: off-shore labor is a lot cheaper, therefore employers will off-shore every possible job. If you do your job sitting in front of a computer, then your job can probably be off-shored - if not now, then certainly in the near future.
Furthermore, the simple laws of supply and demand dictate that the few jobs that are not off-shored, will have a glut of qualified applicants. The experienced developers who have their jobs off-shored, will clearly try to leverage their existing training and experience into the few remaining IT jobs that can not be easily off-shored. This causes a glut, and drives down wages.
The IT worker glut will be increased even more by improved automation of information system maintenance, standardization of software, and non-IT specialists who are increasingly sophisticated with information technology.
There can be nothing to stop this devastating trend, due to the following:
1) Corrupt USA politicians 2) USA IT workers are not willing to organize 3) Influential corporations have effectively distorted the issues
So there you go, it's as simple as that.
IMO: this trend is presently in it's infancy. The present trend has very little to do with the present economic slump. In fact, when the US economy recovers, this trend will accelerate even faster. The present situation for US IT workers is much better now, than it will be five years from now.
If you want to be a business person, not an employee, then why learn software development? Just hire some dirt-cheap offshore bozo from rentacoder for next to nothing.
I have worked in IT for 30 years. To me, you sound like a staffing company recruiter.
if you want to make more money, you need to ALWAYS be thinking on what skills you could acquire to achieve that goal.
Of course recruiters will always say that, no skin off their noses. Truth is: you can acquire all the skills you want, if you don't have recent, paid, professional, enterprise-level, verifiable, experience, in those skills, then your skills count for nothing. Don't take my word for it, look at the job ads.
Don't sit on your ass in the same job for a decade. Change teams, companies, industries, roles.
Yeah, great advice, employers just love job hoppers - ask any employer about what they think of job hoppers. IMO: one of the key reasons that US employers have such a strong preference for offshore guest workers is that offshore quest workers can not easily change loves.
A recent study suggests that IT people really don't seem to like their jobs very much. Apparently, only 4% of IT people found themselves "highly engaged" with their jobs -- a number that has dropped from the still low, but not as low, 12%, two years earlier. There are concerns, of course, for what this means for companies and their IT staff. It certainly raises some questions about whether or not this is a potential issue going forward, and how companies might deal with this. Are the problems caused by the way IT people are treated? Or does it have more to do with their own worries about the future of the IT profession? And given that so many people in IT aren't particularly enthusiastic about their jobs, how can that be dealt with?
My sister has been a nurse for many years. I once suggested to her that more men would be willing to work as nurses if they just changed the named. The name "nurse" (also a synonym for breast feeding) is clearly emasculating. There are plenty of men in every other of health care. My sister actually agreed.
How much does a new battery for your netbook cost?
For me, about $35. But what really matters is: how much will it cost to replace the batteries on the competitor's tablet devices? I'll bet it will be a lot less than $100.
I noticed the "click for pre-order information" link.
That devices looks like numerous other devices that are supposed to come out soon, but are not ready yet.
But yes, if those devices ever are actually for sale in the US, then those devices might compete with the iPad. As I said, there is a reason that Apple is trying to sue Android device makers.
You forgot to mention that it will cost you $100 just to replace the battery. You are clearly correct: wait for the competition. There is a reason that Apple is suing companies that are coming out with Android devices.
Scox's lawsuit against IBM is based on scox's claim that ibm violated scox's UNIX/Linux copyrights, because ibm contributed to linux. Scox claims that they own UNIX (there exact words - repeated many times) and by extension, scox claims they own Linux, because UNIX code is in Linux. After more than seven years, scox still refuses to provide any evidence to back their claims.
But, scox is still suing ibm over linux. So, yes it is a linux story.
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Follow The Money Mike Anderer March 2004 An e-mail from consultant Mike Anderer to SCO's Chris Sontag revealing Microsoft's channeling of US$ 86 million to SCO.
On Monday, court documents from the ongoing court case between IBM and SCO claimed Microsoft had encouraged financial firm BayStar to invest in SCO. The claim was made by BayStar founder Larry Goldfarb, who said Microsoft's vice president of corporate development and strategy, Richard Emerson, had offered to underwrite BayStar's own investment in SCO.
Has Microsoft's money been a significant resource for the financially ailing SCO? Without a doubt. In early 2003, Microsoft started paying SCO what eventually grew to $16.6 million for a Unix license, according to regulatory filings. Only longtime Unix fan Sun Microsystems previously paid close to that, with a $9.3 million license deal.
Microsoft provided a second, though indirect, boost in August or September of 2003, when it referred SCO to BayStar Capital, a fund that arranged a $50 million investment.
There is a lot more evidence, but I will leave further research up to you.
Why does PJ matter so much to you?
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Fuck PJ. She's a publicity whore no better than Darl. Shameless publicity whore. She profited in a grand way from this too-doo. Point. Of. Fact. And "who is PJ"? Just some Small Town Paralegal *that just happened to be interested in Linux*? - YEAH RIGHT. I got a bridge. Reasonable people understand that PJ works for IBM. Reasonable people understand that there is no "PJ", that IBM spun up a screen name and went to town.
Even if your claims about PJ were true (and I do say if) what difference would it make? Why do you care? Why are you so angry?
Can you point out anything that PJ posted that is not true, or not fair?
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This has been a Microsoft smear campaign again Linux all along, and it's not over. Why do you think that MS has been funding the entire thing?
Just use common sense. There is no way to compete with third world wages.
The few jobs that can not being offshored yet, are being filed with foreign guest workers, which will make the jobs easier to offshore in the near future.
Computing in the cloud will make it even easier to offshore US IT jobs.
Unless you can get top secret clearance, it would be best to forget about IT.
I am not sure if people fully understand this. Many Americans oppose the present health care bill, but that does not mean that the same Americans would not welcome universal health care.
The insurance companies are in control. US politicians essentially work for the major corporations. The US public has no say in the matter.
Just goes to show what happens when you allow unfettered immigration. Eventually the immigrants will claim they are the rightful owners. When that happens, you lose your land, your language, your culture. The natives become the second-class citizens.
It happened to the Native Americans, centuries ago, it's happening to the in-the-true-sense-of-the-word "natives" now (you are a native to the land where you were born).
My understanding is: Scientology wanted to be considered a religion so they would not have to pay taxes. To get that status, Scientologists actually blackmailed the IRS.
I get it, you're another ignorant USA hater. Blame the USA first. Everything in other contries is better than everything in the USA. Is that it?
Let me guess: you're a US college student, and have never lived anyplace except for the US? No? How about leftist extremist accademian, or something, who has no idea how the real world works? No? A Brit or Canadian then?
In any case, you seem to have no idea how much the US has protected the free world.
And why should they release their headcount unless other companies do the same?
Beause those other companies are probably not getting stimulus dollars, complements of the US taxpayer.
Those stimulus dollare are being paid by US tax payers because those dollars are supposed to help US taxpayers. What IBM does not want the US tax payers to know is: those dollars are actually going to India.
The govt should pass a new law that forces companies of all sizes to provide a breakdown of where they do business and where they hire. They should punish companies that do not hire where they make and sell things.
I don't know about *all* companies, but certainly those companies that do business with the US federal government and/or companies that get special favors, such as tax breaks and stimulus money.
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Here is a quick look at the work experiences of real US IT pros:
http://techtoil.org/doku.php?id=articles:news_and_commentary
Occam's razor: off-shore labor is a lot cheaper, therefore employers will off-shore every possible job. If you do your job sitting in front of a computer, then your job can probably be off-shored - if not now, then certainly in the near future.
Furthermore, the simple laws of supply and demand dictate that the few jobs that are not off-shored, will have a glut of qualified applicants. The experienced developers who have their jobs off-shored, will clearly try to leverage their existing training and experience into the few remaining IT jobs that can not be easily off-shored. This causes a glut, and drives down wages.
The IT worker glut will be increased even more by improved automation of information system maintenance, standardization of software, and non-IT specialists who are increasingly sophisticated with information technology.
There can be nothing to stop this devastating trend, due to the following:
1) Corrupt USA politicians
2) USA IT workers are not willing to organize
3) Influential corporations have effectively distorted the issues
So there you go, it's as simple as that.
IMO: this trend is presently in it's infancy. The present trend has very little to do with the present economic slump. In fact, when the US economy recovers, this trend will accelerate even faster. The present situation for US IT workers is much better now, than it will be five years from now.
http://techtoil.org/doku.php?id=articles:no-brainer
If you want to be a business person, not an employee, then why learn software development? Just hire some dirt-cheap offshore bozo from rentacoder for next to nothing.
I have worked in IT for 30 years. To me, you sound like a staffing company recruiter.
if you want to make more money, you need to ALWAYS be thinking on what skills you could acquire to achieve that goal.
Of course recruiters will always say that, no skin off their noses. Truth is: you can acquire all the skills you want, if you don't have recent, paid, professional, enterprise-level, verifiable, experience, in those skills, then your skills count for nothing. Don't take my word for it, look at the job ads.
Don't sit on your ass in the same job for a decade. Change teams, companies, industries, roles.
Yeah, great advice, employers just love job hoppers - ask any employer about what they think of job hoppers. IMO: one of the key reasons that US employers have such a strong preference for offshore guest workers is that offshore quest workers can not easily change loves.
A recent study suggests that IT people really don't seem to like their jobs very much. Apparently, only 4% of IT people found themselves "highly engaged" with their jobs -- a number that has dropped from the still low, but not as low, 12%, two years earlier. There are concerns, of course, for what this means for companies and their IT staff. It certainly raises some questions about whether or not this is a potential issue going forward, and how companies might deal with this. Are the problems caused by the way IT people are treated? Or does it have more to do with their own worries about the future of the IT profession? And given that so many people in IT aren't particularly enthusiastic about their jobs, how can that be dealt with?
http://www.techdirt.com/blog/itinnovation/articles/20100216/0318428178.shtml
My sister has been a nurse for many years. I once suggested to her that more men would be willing to work as nurses if they just changed the named. The name "nurse" (also a synonym for breast feeding) is clearly emasculating. There are plenty of men in every other of health care. My sister actually agreed.
How much does a new battery for your netbook cost?
For me, about $35. But what really matters is: how much will it cost to replace the batteries on the competitor's tablet devices? I'll bet it will be a lot less than $100.
I noticed the "click for pre-order information" link.
That devices looks like numerous other devices that are supposed to come out soon, but are not ready yet.
But yes, if those devices ever are actually for sale in the US, then those devices might compete with the iPad. As I said, there is a reason that Apple is trying to sue Android device makers.
You forgot to mention that it will cost you $100 just to replace the battery. You are clearly correct: wait for the competition. There is a reason that Apple is suing companies that are coming out with Android devices.
So how did IBM allegedly reveal the SysV code? By putting that code in Linux, right? So the case is still about Linux.
So did IBM aledgedly reveal the SysV code? By putting that code in Linux, right? So the case is still about Linux.
Scox's lawsuit against IBM is based on scox's claim that ibm violated scox's UNIX/Linux copyrights, because ibm contributed to linux. Scox claims that they own UNIX (there exact words - repeated many times) and by extension, scox claims they own Linux, because UNIX code is in Linux. After more than seven years, scox still refuses to provide any evidence to back their claims.
But, scox is still suing ibm over linux. So, yes it is a linux story.
Follow The Money Mike Anderer March 2004
An e-mail from consultant Mike Anderer to SCO's Chris Sontag revealing Microsoft's channeling of US$ 86 million to SCO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Halloween_documents_leak
On Monday, court documents from the ongoing court case between IBM and SCO claimed Microsoft had encouraged financial firm BayStar to invest in SCO. The claim was made by BayStar founder Larry Goldfarb, who said Microsoft's vice president of corporate development and strategy, Richard Emerson, had offered to underwrite BayStar's own investment in SCO.
http://www.zdnet.com.au/more-microsoft-sco-links-emerge-339271604.htm
Has Microsoft's money been a significant resource for the financially ailing SCO?
Without a doubt. In early 2003, Microsoft started paying SCO what eventually grew to $16.6 million for a Unix license, according to regulatory filings. Only longtime Unix fan Sun Microsystems previously paid close to that, with a $9.3 million license deal.
Microsoft provided a second, though indirect, boost in August or September of 2003, when it referred SCO to BayStar Capital, a fund that arranged a $50 million investment.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-139743.html
There is a lot more evidence, but I will leave further research up to you.
Fuck PJ. She's a publicity whore no better than Darl. Shameless publicity whore. She profited in a grand way from this too-doo. Point. Of. Fact.
And "who is PJ"? Just some Small Town Paralegal *that just happened to be interested in Linux*? - YEAH RIGHT. I got a bridge.
Reasonable people understand that PJ works for IBM. Reasonable people understand that there is no "PJ", that IBM spun up a screen name and went to town.
Even if your claims about PJ were true (and I do say if) what difference would it make? Why do you care? Why are you so angry?
Can you point out anything that PJ posted that is not true, or not fair?
This has been a Microsoft smear campaign again Linux all along, and it's not over. Why do you think that MS has been funding the entire thing?
Just use common sense. There is no way to compete with third world wages.
The few jobs that can not being offshored yet, are being filed with foreign guest workers, which will make the jobs easier to offshore in the near future.
Computing in the cloud will make it even easier to offshore US IT jobs.
Unless you can get top secret clearance, it would be best to forget about IT.
Many posters here have indicated that most Chinese are happy with their government. I don't know, but I would have a few questions:
1) If that is true, then why all the censorship? Are Chinese only happy because they don't know any better?
2) If Chinese are so happy with their government, then why are they not allowed to freely leave?
3) What about the sweatshop workers? Would they be happy with their jobs if they knew about work conditions for the typical western worker?
I have never been there, and I am not a student of Chinese culture. I am just trying to understand.
I am not sure if people fully understand this. Many Americans oppose the present health care bill, but that does not mean that the same Americans would not welcome universal health care.
The insurance companies are in control. US politicians essentially work for the major corporations. The US public has no say in the matter.
Maybe it works like this:
1) Some internet cop claims to be a 13 year old looking for an older friend.
2) Somebody answers the internet cop, and starts typing with one hand when the conversation gets steamy.
Just goes to show what happens when you allow unfettered immigration. Eventually the immigrants will claim they are the rightful owners. When that happens, you lose your land, your language, your culture. The natives become the second-class citizens.
It happened to the Native Americans, centuries ago, it's happening to the in-the-true-sense-of-the-word "natives" now (you are a native to the land where you were born).
I suppose this could used for textbooks?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858723010&Tpk=ectaco%20jetbook%20lite
My understanding is: Scientology wanted to be considered a religion so they would not have to pay taxes. To get that status, Scientologists actually blackmailed the IRS.
I can kinda understand why you'd want to know about any H1-Bs there, but why would you care about green card workers?
For one thing, I would like an accurate idea of how many real US workers are employed at IBM. It seems like it may be less than 20%.
Also, even green card workers contribute to a glutted market.
I get it, you're another ignorant USA hater. Blame the USA first. Everything in other contries is better than everything in the USA. Is that it?
Let me guess: you're a US college student, and have never lived anyplace except for the US? No? How about leftist extremist accademian, or something, who has no idea how the real world works? No? A Brit or Canadian then?
In any case, you seem to have no idea how much the US has protected the free world.
And why should they release their headcount unless other companies do the same?
Beause those other companies are probably not getting stimulus dollars, complements of the US taxpayer.
Those stimulus dollare are being paid by US tax payers because those dollars are supposed to help US taxpayers. What IBM does not want the US tax payers to know is: those dollars are actually going to India.
The govt should pass a new law that forces companies of all sizes to provide a breakdown of where they do business and where they hire. They should punish companies that do not hire where they make and sell things.
I don't know about *all* companies, but certainly those companies that do business with the US federal government and/or companies that get special favors, such as tax breaks and stimulus money.