> But a much better solution would be a single ethnically neutral country that didn't discriminate at all.
That is Israel. Arabs have full citizenship rights in Israel. Israel is a secular nation. Israel has never had a problem with living with Arabs, it's Arabs that are dedicated to wiping Israel off the map, and killing all Jews.
> Don't have any "rights" of "return" that are based on race or ethnicity or religion.
The idea of Israel is to provide a very tiny, but safe, space for Jews. If you remember, modern Israel was created right after WWII.
> Don't put things like marriage under some kind of religious authority
I agree, that was a mistake. But, certainly you cannot claim that Muslims nations are any better.
> Just have one (democratic) country with equal rights and justice for all.
That is Israel, everybody has the same rights. Which is much more than a nation like Saudi would ever offer.
"Various sources?" Come on now. How do we know the entire thing is not made up?
Smells like political propaganda to me.
And this is from a website called: middleeastmonitor.com
Who are the contributors to that site?
Honorary Advisers to the Middle East Monitor Dr Salman Abu Sita, Palestinian author and member of the Palestinian National Council Lord Nazir Ahmed of Rotherham, member of The House of Lords Baroness Jennifer Tonge of Kew, member of The House of Lords Dr Maria Holt, Lecturer of Democracy and Islam in the Centre for the Study of Democracy in the University of Westminster Oliver McTernan, Co-Founder and Director of the Forward Thinking organisation Professor Tariq Ramadan, Professor at Oxford University
> both sides have demonstrated time and time again they are incapable of living peacefully.
Is that true?
Israel has demonstrated that they do not mind living with Arabs. Israel gives full citizenship rights. Arabs can join the military, own land, vote, even hold public office.
By contrast, Hamas has it written into their charter they Hamas considers it their responsibility to kill every Jew on earth.
> Yes, because MS Windows is totally "Unix Philosophy" and is all about choice and modularity.'
Because it the runs the apps.
Windows does the job. It works with the hardware, and runs the software. Why make a religion of it? It's like making a huge fuss over what kind of copier machine you use.
I agree with original poster. The promise of Linux is gone. Now it's just another Microsoft.
So why fight it? Microsoft is kludgy as hell. But MS basically does what you need it to do.
I run MATE because it sucks less than KDE, or Gnome - a lot less.
What is not "modern" about MATE? What am I missing?
Features for the sake of features do not interest me. What functional aspect of a DE would actually help me be more productive, that I don't have with MATE?
Don't get me wrong, there are other good desktops, just not KDE or Gnome.
> I think it's going to have to get much worse before people get mad enough to fight.
I think you are right. But I also think that, by that point, it may be too late.
Fairly soon, Americans are get disgusted, and stop studying for STEM. When that the happens, the tech companies will point to declining enrollment as evidence that Americans don't want the jobs.
Healthcare is a huge issue. Part of the problem is the astronomical salaries enjoyed by many US physicians - will over one million dollars a year in many cases.
Why does Greenspan scoff that US IT workers want to be a "privileged elite" but he says nothing about doctors earning over $1 million a year?
So let's flood the US with offshore physicians who don't earn anything near that, and thereby reduce our healthcare costs.
Of course, that will never happen. The AMA will not allow it (for the patients good of course).
> Sea ice and land ice are two separate phenomena. Antarctica is losing land ice at an accelerating rate. Sea ice around Antarctica is increasing. The reasons for sea ice increasing in a warming Southern Ocean are complex
> I really do like distros that have it in my virtual machines because I can do a full reboot in seconds
Not my experience at all.
I actually timed systemd vs non-systemd boot time on my desktop. Non-systemd won by a significant margin.
The systemd people gave me a reasonable response: systemd is faster because it start services in parallel. This is helpful when you run a lot of services - like some servers. On a desktop, where are not running so many services, systemd can be slower than non-systemd.
I do not have the specifics of my test available right now. But I do remember that non-systemd booted faster.
Ubuntu 10.4 - just before Gnome3 was awesome. It is sad they ruined such a great distro.
Slashdot Mirror
Seems to be alive and posting on Slashdot.
> Can't have the Palestinians fighting back against the Jews who have stolen their land
Total BS, never happened.
> This is a regime that ethnically cleansed a whole people from their country, stole their land,
Except both of those statements are outright lies.
Today Israel commemorates 850,000 Jews attacked & expelled from Arab lands & Iran, where Jews lived for millennia.
> But a much better solution would be a single ethnically neutral country that didn't discriminate at all.
That is Israel. Arabs have full citizenship rights in Israel. Israel is a secular nation. Israel has never had a problem with living with Arabs, it's Arabs that are dedicated to wiping Israel off the map, and killing all Jews.
> Don't have any "rights" of "return" that are based on race or ethnicity or religion.
The idea of Israel is to provide a very tiny, but safe, space for Jews. If you remember, modern Israel was created right after WWII.
> Don't put things like marriage under some kind of religious authority
I agree, that was a mistake. But, certainly you cannot claim that Muslims nations are any better.
> Just have one (democratic) country with equal rights and justice for all.
That is Israel, everybody has the same rights. Which is much more than a nation like Saudi would ever offer.
I am seeing massive ignorance about the conflict,
This short video is good starting point.
The History of the Middle East Conflict in 11 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZY8m0cm1oY
against Muslim aggression.
Israel is entirely willing to live, in peace, with Arabs.
However, Muslims have hated Jews since the prophet Mohammad walked the earth. Hating Jews is commanded in Islam.
Hamas has launched thousands of rockets into Isreal. Hamas has Jew hatred written into Hamas's charter.
"Various sources?" Come on now. How do we know the entire thing is not made up?
Smells like political propaganda to me.
And this is from a website called: middleeastmonitor.com
Who are the contributors to that site?
Honorary Advisers to the Middle East Monitor
Dr Salman Abu Sita, Palestinian author and member of the Palestinian National Council
Lord Nazir Ahmed of Rotherham, member of The House of Lords
Baroness Jennifer Tonge of Kew, member of The House of Lords
Dr Maria Holt, Lecturer of Democracy and Islam in the Centre for the Study of Democracy in the University of Westminster
Oliver McTernan, Co-Founder and Director of the Forward Thinking organisation
Professor Tariq Ramadan, Professor at Oxford University
> both sides have demonstrated time and time again they are incapable of living peacefully.
Is that true?
Israel has demonstrated that they do not mind living with Arabs. Israel gives full citizenship rights. Arabs can join the military, own land, vote, even hold public office.
By contrast, Hamas has it written into their charter they Hamas considers it their responsibility to kill every Jew on earth.
Debian did have a lot of developers resigning. Face reality.
Modern operating systems, like MS-Windows, or OSX, run far more apps, and work with far more hardware.
Systemd Linux is for pompous neck-beards.
Just something the Red Hat shills might want to think about before they try to shame FreeBSD users into submission.
> Yes, because MS Windows is totally "Unix Philosophy" and is all about choice and modularity.'
Because it the runs the apps.
Windows does the job. It works with the hardware, and runs the software. Why make a religion of it? It's like making a huge fuss over what kind of copier machine you use.
I agree with original poster. The promise of Linux is gone. Now it's just another Microsoft.
So why fight it? Microsoft is kludgy as hell. But MS basically does what you need it to do.
But Gnome3 sure sucks. So does KDE.
I run MATE because it sucks less than KDE, or Gnome - a lot less.
What is not "modern" about MATE? What am I missing?
Features for the sake of features do not interest me. What functional aspect of a DE would actually help me be more productive, that I don't have with MATE?
Don't get me wrong, there are other good desktops, just not KDE or Gnome.
In my experience, the BSDs are not as "hardware friendly" as Linux.
But, they aren't bad, and offer some advantages over Linux.
Why throw away POSIX and the UNIX philosophy?
FreeBSD works like all hell. No wonder Red Hat is trying to pulling the old "call non-believers luddites" stunt.
Do you know what you're posting about?
I use both freebsd, and linux, and IMO, freebsd is superior in many ways.
Although, Linux works with more hardware.
Watch PBS American Experience "Walt Disney." Disney has been abusing it's workforce for a long time.
Like other corporations, the only way to stop is to make them stop. You need to organize, and fight back, or the abuse will continue.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-ca-st-fall-tv-walt-disney-20150913-story.html
> I think it's going to have to get much worse before people get mad enough to fight.
I think you are right. But I also think that, by that point, it may be too late.
Fairly soon, Americans are get disgusted, and stop studying for STEM. When that the happens, the tech companies will point to declining enrollment as evidence that Americans don't want the jobs.
Why not the same for other professions?
Healthcare is a huge issue. Part of the problem is the astronomical salaries enjoyed by many US physicians - will over one million dollars a year in many cases.
Why does Greenspan scoff that US IT workers want to be a "privileged elite" but he says nothing about doctors earning over $1 million a year?
So let's flood the US with offshore physicians who don't earn anything near that, and thereby reduce our healthcare costs.
Of course, that will never happen. The AMA will not allow it (for the patients good of course).
Or read the book.
Corporations hire PR firms that hire professional deniers to "muddy the waters"
The tobacco industry did this for decades, pushing the message that the negative effects of smoking were disputed, controversial, etc.
As it turns out, the same scientists who denied smoking dangers also denied global warming. Look up "Frederick Seitz."
Yes, it can be hard to know. That is because certain corporations spend millions making it hard to know.
According to this skepticalscience.com:
> Sea ice and land ice are two separate phenomena. Antarctica is losing land ice at an accelerating rate. Sea ice around Antarctica is increasing. The reasons for sea ice increasing in a warming Southern Ocean are complex
http://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice.htm
I think there there should be RedhatOS and other distros should be real Linux - i.e. Linux without systemd.
> I really do like distros that have it in my virtual machines because I can do a full reboot in seconds
Not my experience at all.
I actually timed systemd vs non-systemd boot time on my desktop. Non-systemd won by a significant margin.
The systemd people gave me a reasonable response: systemd is faster because it start services in parallel. This is helpful when you run a lot of services - like some servers. On a desktop, where are not running so many services, systemd can be slower than non-systemd.
I do not have the specifics of my test available right now. But I do remember that non-systemd booted faster.
Ubuntu 10.4 - just before Gnome3 was awesome. It is sad they ruined such a great distro.
Maybe, "top ten military excuses for the blimp breaking free"
10. Blimp? What Blimp?
9. Forgot to use The Club
8. If you love something, set it free
That's all I could think of.