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Military Blimp Breaks Free and Drifts Over the Mid-Atlantic Trailing Tether (baltimoresun.com)

McGruber writes: The Baltimore Sun reports that a military surveillance blimp has broken free of its mooring at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland and was last seen drifting at 16,000 ft over Pennsylvania. The 243-foot-long, helium-filled JLENS (Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System) aerostat detached from its mooring at about 11:54 a.m. Wednesday. It was trailing approximately 6,700 feet of cable. "Anyone who sees the aerostat is advised to contact 911 immediately," spokeswoman Heather Roelker said. "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

196 comments

  1. Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crashed, causing widespread power outages.

    It got its own Twitter feed though: https://twitter.com/BmoreBlimp

    1. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Foreign government attack on power infrastructure?

      Captcha: blacker

    2. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Crashed, causing widespread power outages.

      They're just saying it was a missile defense balloon to cover up the fact that it's SKYNET, and it's now sentient.

      The 243-foot-long, helium-filled JLENS (Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System) aerostat detached from its mooring at about 11:54 a.m. Wednesday. It was trailing approximately 6,700 feet of cable. "Anyone who sees the aerostat is advised to contact 911 immediately," spokeswoman Heather Roelker said. "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

      See? What'd I tell you. Fucking SKYNET.

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    3. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      Black Sunday

    4. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just landed in a daycare center in PA, and released hydrazine and asbestos all over the playground.

    5. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it didn't, That was a different blimp in 2011. this one is still up there.

    6. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by MobSwatter · · Score: 1

      Uncle Sam in E.R. from an apparent gunshot wound to the foot and powder burns on right hand... again...

    7. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Foreign government attack on power infrastructure?

      Nahh, just government contractor cost-cutting. I mean, they abbreviated "Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System" as "JLENS" to save ink, who knows what other corners they cut. The tether was probably recycled baling twine.

    8. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by Forever+Wondering · · Score: 1

      Per CNN, the blimp _is_ down. The military did something to force it down [*]

      [*] Maybe they told that guy with the shotgun that it was a drone ...

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    9. Re:Crashed around Bloomsburg PA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL! The US government is filled with some incredibly stupid motherfuckers.

  2. Catastrophic Failure? by RumGunner · · Score: 5, Interesting

    FTFA: "Raytheon, the contractor that makes the blimps, says the cable is unlikely to break.

    "The chance of that happening is very small because the tether is made of Vectran and has withstood storms in excess of 100 knots," the company said on its website. "However, in the unlikely event it does happen, there are a number of procedures and systems in place which are designed to bring the aerostat down in a safe manner.""

    So what exactly happened? The cable broke, AND they are unable to get the blimp to safely land?

    1. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's funny, because one of the operators was just interviewed on CNN. He stated it was NOT uncommon for the tether to break, and it happened several times in Afghanistan. One even broke loose and went into Iran.

      Someone is lying, and my bet it's Raytheon, because government contracts lie and commit fraud all the time.

    2. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If it is Vectran, the tether is a rope. When I hear cable, I usually think metal, Vectran is not metallic.

    3. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6700 feet of cable. Sounds like the mooring point failed instead of the cable.

    4. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by trevc · · Score: 1

      And I wonder how much the taxpayer paid for this "Vectran" rope and saftey systems. Will we get a refund?

    5. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Major+Blud · · Score: 0

      Raytheon, the same company that hired this guy:

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

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    6. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Vectran makes sense, it has a better strength to weight ratio than steel. The only downside is that it degrades if exposed to sunlight, which if it has a cover would not be a problem.

    7. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well since another article states they are tied up with a 10,000 foot rope... I'm not sure your inference stands up to scrutiny.

    8. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Talderas · · Score: 1

      JLENS is supposed to float at 10,000 feet so I would say it doesn't sound like a mooring point failure.

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    9. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect Chinese saboteurs, I'm assuming the tether cable was connected to the internet in someway.

    10. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      It was made in China

    11. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I wonder how much the taxpayer paid for this "Vectran" rope and saftey systems. Will we get a refund?

      Uh, the taxpayer is still wrapping their head around the fact that it's the year 2015 and we're still dumping billions into fucking blimp technology.

      Needless to say a floating marshmallow doesn't hold the same fleek factor as a fighter jet.

    12. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Everybody in the world should get a refund on their cars if somebody's car breaks down."

    13. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From NBC "trailing the tether and mooring point" is consistent with the shit the tether is made of, and, oh by the way, they have the ability to raise and lower it, so it obviously has positions between 10,000' and in a hanger.

    14. Re: Catastrophic Failure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not the same kind of aerostat, there are only a few of these, they likely use different materials.

    15. Re:Catastrophic Failure? by cyn1c77 · · Score: 1

      Let's translate:

      FTFA: "Raytheon, the contractor that makes the blimps, says the cable is unlikely to break.

      "The chance of that happening is very small because the tether is made of Vectran and has withstood storms in excess of 100 knots," the company said on its website.

      Clearly this was a terrorist attack by mother nature, because since our product has never failed in any previous storm it would not fail in a future storm. Due to this attack, more blimps are needed to protect the existing blimps.

      "However, in the unlikely event it does happen, there are a number of procedures and systems in place which are designed to bring the aerostat down in a safe manner.""

      For example, gravity will bring the aerostat down safely, eventually. In addition to gravity, we may also use F-16's to shoot it down, but only over Canada.

  3. Save the Helium! by neoritter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh please, think of all that precious Helium!!!!

    1. Re:Save the Helium! by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Hydrogen was the lowest bidder. So we are all good and safe.

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    2. Re:Save the Helium! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Interesting aside: It was the filling of these two aerostats that exhausted the US supply of Helium a year or two ago.

    3. Re:Save the Helium! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously, passing 5th grade science is no longer a graduation requirement.

    4. Re:Save the Helium! by istartedi · · Score: 1

      We're deeing thee beest theet we keen. Theer wheel be pleenty eave helium. Treest eece.

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  4. Should have used Duck Tape by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

    Raytheon, which produces the aircraft, described the likelihood that the tether would break as "very small."

    "The chance of that happening is very small because the tether is made of Vectran and has withstood storms in excess of 100 knots," the Raytheon website stated on its website before the blimp became unmoored.

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    1. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duct tape. No one's abducting ducks and holding them in their basements... ...or are they

    2. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Both duct tape and duck tape are acceptable. In fact if anything "duck tape" is the more correct answer. From wikipedia:

      The first material called "duck tape" was long strips of plain cotton duck cloth used in making shoes stronger, for decoration on clothing, and for wrapping steel cables or electrical conductors to protect them from corrosion or wear.[2] For instance, in 1902, steel cables supporting the Manhattan Bridge were first covered in linseed oil then wrapped in duck tape before being laid in place. ...

      After the war, the duck tape product was sold in hardware stores for household repairs. The Melvin A. Anderson Company of Cleveland, Ohio, acquired the rights to the tape in 1950.[15] It was commonly used in construction to wrap air ducts.[19] Following this application, the name "duct tape" came into use in the 1950s, along with tape products that were colored silvery gray like tin ductwork

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

    3. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      Duct tape. No one's abducting ducks

      https://tw-projects.s3.amazona...

    4. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

      Duct tape. No one's abducting ducks

      I beg to differ. I think there is a full length Shaun the Sheep documentary of just such an event. https://www.amazon.com/Duck-Bi...

      The scourge of abducktion is quite tragic.

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    5. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by schwit1 · · Score: 5, Funny
      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

      'than'

    6. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

        'than'

      Lol, *BOOM*, headshot!

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    7. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ya got me. Thats ok, I have nothing wrong with pedants when they are right. :)

    8. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

      Me too. I love nothing more THAN proving pedantic fools wrong.

    9. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by mwehle · · Score: 1

      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

      'than'

      What's that smell of smoke in here?

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    10. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by tsotha · · Score: 1

      When you find a comment like that, you just know there's a grammar mistake in there somewhere.

      Even if you've written it yourself.

    11. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by KGIII · · Score: 1

      If we're being pedantic then, and my English is not the best, I think there might be more:

      In fact if anything "duck tape" is the more correct answer.

      Maybe:

      In fact, if anything, "duct tape" is the more...

      I'm not sure that quotation marks are correct either.

      It might be:

      In fact, if anything, 'duct tape' is the more...

      As formatting is allowed, if I recall the writing standards, we might want to go with:

      In fact, if anything duct tape is the more...

      I mean, you know, if we're going to be pedantic... However, I use the shotgun approach with commas, so don't trust me.

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    12. Re:Should have used Duck Tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love nothing more then proving pedantic fools wrong. :)

        'than'

      I love nothing more than properly quoting the previous post using that handy little "Quote Parent"-button /. provides.

  5. Not A Blimp by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Informative

    A blimp is a powered craft. An aerostat is a tethered balloon.

    If it were a blimp -- even an unmanned blimp -- and it had fuel, they could just drive it back home.

    1. Re:Not A Blimp by Holi · · Score: 2

      Assuming anyone was onboard.

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    2. Re:Not A Blimp by McGruber · · Score: 1

      I called it a 'Blimp" because I figured it was on its way to Akron to reproduce.

    3. Re:Not A Blimp by audi100quattro · · Score: 1

      A balloon shaped like a blimp. The powered part would've cost more..

    4. Re:Not A Blimp by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      A blimp is a powered craft.

      Most sources I can find don't include being powered as a defining characteristic.

      An aerostat is a tethered balloon.

      That's what it was, but what is it now?

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    5. Re: Not A Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That depends. Can a previously tethered balloon that still has its tether which isn't tethered to anything at the moment be called tethered?

  6. Proving.. by Coditor · · Score: 1

    I guess the Proving Ground proved it's not quite ready for prime time.

  7. Trial Balloon eh? by bobbied · · Score: 4, Funny

    So the military is sending up a trial balloon?

    I wonder what the reaction might be..

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    1. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      One down, 98 to go?

    2. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Reports of a balloon on the loose are, of course, false. It's more likely your everyday alien spacecraft.

    3. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think that the balloon was red but I like where you're going with this.

    4. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Red was only in the English re-write. The original word I will misspell as luftballon. If I remember my little bits of German correctly, first I have to correct that as Luftballon then I can parse it as "flying balloon", implying a hydrogen or helium fill instead of casual air.

      Und now ze Deutch vill korrekt My errorz.

    5. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by mwehle · · Score: 1

      Nena FTW!

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    6. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did a journal entry not too long ago about that song. It's a hacker manifesto! It really, kind of, is. My VPN is acting a bit funny so when I try to post logged in it says that the resource is not available. Ah well...

      KGIII

    7. Re:Trial Balloon eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That's no balloon... it's a space station!"

  8. Domestic Spy Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good.

    If you believe this has anything to do with some supposed cruise missile problem, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

    1. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Actually, If you think about how you might track a cruse missile using Radar, especially one that is designed to follow the terrain at low levels, having a radar system which is up high and stationary makes sense. You'd also be able to track ballistic munitions tracks like mortars and smaller missiles from this vantage point.

      Of course, it does afford you the perfect vantage point to track pretty much all moment on the ground, which is something the military needs to be very careful about doing for constitutional reasons.

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    2. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And who's cruise missiles is this defending against? The only ppl. with cruise missiles in that area is the US Airforce and Navy.

    3. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

      And they would never be testing things at a place called the "Aberdeen Proving Ground"

      Your tinfoil hat slipped a bit - better get it centered again.

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    4. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Anyone with a submarine?

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    5. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      And Russian or Chinese submarines.

    6. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This one just happened to be at Aberdeen. These things are placed all around the country.

    7. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the Russians or Chinese are going to launch cruise missiles on the US.

      That's would be the fastest way to start WWIII.

    8. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, jackass, the fastest way to start it would be an ICBM launch. Delivery in 15 minutes or your money back. Launch detection should be within seconds, and hopefully our president would respond intelligently instead of fucking about and losing a 5th war in his term. Cruise missiles are much smaller, have a much smaller launch profile, travel in the terrain clutter and have a bit of deniability that ICBMs don't.

    9. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by tsotha · · Score: 1

      That's true, in the same way Pearl Harbor didn't need to be defended because the only people with bombs in that area were the US Army and Navy.

    10. Re:Domestic Spy Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who's cruise missiles

      Who is cruise missiles? I ain't, you motherfucking nigger.

    11. Re: Domestic Spy Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russia advertises shipping container cruise missile launchers to sell on the world weapon market. Russia's submarines and ships are armed with supersonic cruise missiles. Cruise missiles are, in fact one of the primary strategies Russia's military is built to use against us.

  9. Live Reporter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh the humility!

    1. Re:Live Reporter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh the huge manatee!

  10. Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the area by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    No one would have seen it, with the remnants of Hurricane Patricia hitting the area.

  11. I've seen this movie... by bosef1 · · Score: 1

    it eats Pittsburgh.

    1. Re:I've seen this movie... by khallow · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure I'm up for a horror movie with a rosy ending. That sort of thing just seems so fake.

  12. Danger? by fred911 · · Score: 1

    "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

    (from the various armed alphabet agents closely following)

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    1. Re:Danger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably contains classified technology that they don't want people looking at most likely.

      It's not likely this thing contains some kind of toxic power source (i.e. nuclear power or rocket fuel).

      Biggest danger would be the weight (if it fell on someone) or any moving parts.

    2. Re:Danger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or the significant amount of static charge that any flying object can accumulate, especially with a long-ass tether hanging down.

    3. Re:Danger? by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      It's already taken out one power line with its mooring cable. Short a high-voltage line, and you'll quite likely burn through it and drop the ends on the ground. If you're in the neighborhood, try to be under the non-hot side.

    4. Re: Danger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Classified just meaning proprietary ...

    5. Re:Danger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aircraft can develop significant static charge. I wouldn't want to be the first thing the tether touches.

    6. Re: Danger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Might it have a strong microwave emitter on it? Wouldn't want to get too close to that.

    7. Re:Danger? by MiniMike · · Score: 4, Funny

      "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

      RTFA. The airship was at 16000 feet altitude. It's very dangerous to be at that altitude unless you have an airplane, parachute, or other safety device. To be safe, people should keep about 14000 - 15600* feet away.

      (* ground elevation in this area varies from around 400 - 2000 feet, iirc)

    8. Re:Danger? by painandgreed · · Score: 2

      "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."

      (from the various armed alphabet agents closely following)

      Besides just general boiler plate warning, it's quite conceivable that somebody coming across it might grab onto the tether. With an upgust they could be 50-100 feet off the ground before they realize how high they are and it's too late to let go. Then you just hope you can hold on longer than it takes for the thing to drift down again. Happened to a couple of zeppelin landing crew in the past as grabbing ahold of tethers and tying the things down is how you land a zeppelin.

  13. drifting blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mistakes were made....

    1. Re:drifting blimp by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Mistakes were made....

      Thank you Captain Obvious...

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    2. Re:drifting blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They call him Captain Obvious because you should be able to see it clearly, get it?!?

      ~The Real Captain

      Or KGIII as AC because my VPN is eating JS and I'm not going to bother opening a new tab.

  14. JLENS is a complete boondoggle by afidel · · Score: 2

    Billions spent and the stupid thing couldn't detect a man in an ultralight headed straight for the Capital, we need to cut our losses and scrap the thing already.

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    1. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by kencurry · · Score: 4, Funny

      Billions spent and the stupid thing couldn't detect a man in an ultralight headed straight for the Capital, we need to cut our losses and scrap the thing already.

      looks like someone did just that.

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    2. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a) was it looking for a man in an ultralight? b) was it even operating that day? I keep seeing this accusation without any source other than mother jones type bullshit.

    3. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by afidel · · Score: 1

      The 3 year tech demonstration was supposed to aid in the control of the airspace around DC as reported by the Washington Post, it's supposed capabilities include detecting small radar cross section craft like cruise missiles and also manned and unmanned craft (ie large drones) so if they didn't identify something several times the size of a cruise missile in the DC airspace I'd call that a fail.

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    4. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by pdhenry · · Score: 1

      It wasn't operating that day.

    5. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      headed straight for the Capital

      So the Capital is in the capitol. Nice reverse typo.

    6. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Systems are built to the requirements specified by the government. It's extremely doubtful that they were looking to detect ultralights, which have a very significantly smaller radar signature, and payload than a cruise missile.

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    7. Re:JLENS is a complete boondoggle by whodunit · · Score: 1

      "This billion dollar system couldn't detect a non-threat, we should get rid of it."

  15. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um, Pennsylvania is on the east coast.

  16. Exploding Helium! by KatchooNJ · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oy! Apparently MSNBC had commentary explaining that helium was explosive and dangerous. O_o

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    1. Re:Exploding Helium! by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

      Oy! Apparently MSNBC had commentary explaining that helium was explosive and dangerous. O_o

      Specifically, chief Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski said helium was flammable. Not sure whether it was a brain fart or he's just clueless about the chemistry.

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    2. Re:Exploding Helium! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Helium can in fact burn. It happens every day....inside the sun....

    3. Re:Exploding Helium! by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      chief Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski said helium was flammable.

      I believe proper term is inflammable like when they wrote on gasoline tanker trucks but used "flammable." Otherwise some may interpret it as unflammable. Of course these days they simply put "1203" on their code sign. I think if they blimp had "1046" code sign then everything will be ok.

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    4. Re:Exploding Helium! by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Sun does not fuse helium. It fuses 4 hydrogen atoms into helium. When the Sun starts to fuse helium in the distant future, we are toast.

    5. Re: Exploding Helium! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he was just making an Archer joke that no one at MSNBC got.

    6. Re:Exploding Helium! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Burning is a chemical reaction where something combines with oxygen. Helium can't do that -- because it's single electron shell is already filled. Go back to 5th grade....

    7. Re:Exploding Helium! by tsotha · · Score: 1

      Literally.

    8. Re:Exploding Helium! by NVW55V · · Score: 2

      Good. I love toast. Now let's talk about butter, and jelly.

    9. Re:Exploding Helium! by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I'm reminded of the sticker on a box I bought on EBay, "If you find this box, don't touch it. Do not leave the area. Help is on the way. The Umbrella Corporation"

    10. Re:Exploding Helium! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention that "burning" means an oxidative process, not fusion.

    11. Re:Exploding Helium! by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      The Sun does not fuse helium. It fuses 4 hydrogen atoms into helium.

      4 hydrogen atoms? Hydrogen has a single proton, helium has two. Where do the other 2 protons go?

      Or does the process require 4 hydrogen atoms to make 2 helium atoms, because 2 hydrogen atoms do not have enough FOOBAR by themselves to fuse? What might the FOOBAR be? Energy? Mass?

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    12. Re:Exploding Helium! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Helium also has two neutrons, while hydrogen has none, so you do need four particles - two protons that stay protons, and two that become neutrons by absorbing an electron - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture .

    13. Re:Exploding Helium! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only there were an online encyclopedia where one could learn about solar fusion...

    14. Re:Exploding Helium! by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Helium also has two neutrons, while hydrogen has none, so you do need four particles - two protons that stay protons, and two that become neutrons by absorbing an electron - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... .

      Thank you!

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      It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
    15. Re:Exploding Helium! by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      A neutron can be created this way, but in stellar fusion two protons fuse to become Helium-2. It then undergoes beta decay to become a deuterium atom, releasing a positron and neutrino.

  17. Pennsylvania is in the mid-Atlantic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I need to brush up on my geography. APG I know is along the Bay. Used to be. Better check.

    1. Re:Pennsylvania is in the mid-Atlantic by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Yes, APG is north of Baltimore, and south of the Maxon-Dixon Line. Drift a little north and you are in Pennsylvania.

    2. Re:Pennsylvania is in the mid-Atlantic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing in the mid-atlantic is atlantis, hundreds of slave ships, and that French airbus.

    3. Re:Pennsylvania is in the mid-Atlantic by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      and Iceland

  18. How could they not know exactly where it is? by hawguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How could they lose it? Surely after $2.5B spent on the program, they had enough money to slap a GPS tracker on it.

    1. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Oh, I'm sure they knew where it was the whole time. The question becomes what the fuck you do about it.

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    2. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

      Pennsylvania is being hit by a massive storm right now. The blimp is being blown over the mountains, and anyone chasing it has to go around.

    3. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 2

      They know where it is. There are two F-16 fighter jets tailing it. There are better articles online than the one linked in TFS.

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    4. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GDS a freaking storm radar system could find it!

    5. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With all those fancy military satellites and radar systems, I would imagine they could pinpoint it within an inch.

    6. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are two F-16 fighter jets tailing it.

      That's an odd description. As it is not powered, its moving relatively to the ground only together with its surrounding air. The jets fly relatively to the air - so for them it is completely stationary. They cannot be "tailing" it. Only approaching, then circling it.

    7. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How could they lose it? Surely after $2.5B spent on the program, they had enough money to slap a GPS tracker on it.

      And this would be that awkward moment that I gently remind you that it wasn't long ago we lost an entire passenger plane, flying around with literally hundreds of GPS transmitters in it at the time...

    8. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      tail, v., to follow and observe closely.

      By approaching and circling the aerostat, the F-16 fighter jets are tailing it.

      Only on slashdot would someone turn this into a physics problem.

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    9. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the tethering system is incapable of failure, and even if it were capable, they have other systems that they could use to recover the balloon. So there's no need to GPS tracking, because they always know exactly where it is!

    10. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by tomhath · · Score: 1

      GP thought the jets were trying to mate with it.

    11. Re:How could they not know exactly where it is? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      a receiver is not a transmitter. but for the blimp to fill it's original duty it needed to have transmitters.

      they probably knew where it was all the time anyways, just didn't want to bring it down.

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  19. Good question... by Zeorge · · Score: 1

    My guess is that it was for radar and other interrogative technologies and all communications was through the umbilical to the ground. However, it should have a GPS for timing and for positional accuracy in relation to the radar and what the radar sees when and where.

  20. Jets scrambled... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CNN just reported that military jets were scrambled. Are they going to shoot it down?

    1. Re:Jets scrambled... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nah, they're going to escort it to Massachusetts where the Patriots experts in deflation will careful deflate it for them.

  21. I'm worried about two things: entanglement and ESD by Zeorge · · Score: 1

    It already happened with entanglement where the tether took down some power lines. I could see it damaging houses and other tall structures like a water tower if it encounters is.

    ESD: I know aircraft build up static charge while flying so that worries me. If someone or something conductive were to touch the tether it could discharge and really hurt/kill a person or damage property.

  22. Skytanic by SomewhatRandom · · Score: 1

    It's a rigid air ship.

    All aboard for safety and adventure on the rigid airship Excelsior, where the pampered luxury of a cruise ship meets the smoothness of modern air travel.

  23. easy for you to say by dlt074 · · Score: 1

    i take it you've never lived under the protection of one in a combat zone. not to mention, they become the main target of the locals. better it then I.

    1. Re:easy for you to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Weird, didn't know that Maryland was a combat zone.

    2. Re:easy for you to say by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      i take it you've never lived under the protection of one in a combat zone.

      Is that because JLENS has never been deployed to a combat zone (mostly because it was designed to operate in friendly territory)?

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  24. I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by Thing+1 · · Score: 0

    Recently I learned that there are no satellites; most dishes are pointed towards a transmitter on a nearby mountain.

    I wonder whether this airship was also used to simulate a satellite? If so, there was likely a TV outage "nearby".

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    1. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where do you live? Every satellite dish I've ever seen is pointed toward blue sky. Are you sure you weren't looking at a microwave relay? Even if there's a huge mountain just south of you I don't think it would block out geosync. satellites.

    2. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't be serious....

    3. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      How do they work when there are no mountains anywhere nearby?

    4. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by wbr1 · · Score: 1
      Most dishes do point to a geo-synchronous satellite.
      However in the 90s there was a thing called Wirelss Cable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      I worked for a provider. They could get a smallish set (15-20) channels out to places where the cable company would nto run cable, much cheaper than satellite at the time. It was quickly overtaken by true satellite and expanding cable networks with larger and increasingly digital offerings.

      Interestingly we were the first high-speed internet provider in our area. It was one way cable Internet. 1 QAM Docsis 1.1 channel broadcast wirelessly downstream. Upstream was provided by a dial up modem, and some funky split routing.
      The company I worked for was also an ISP and regional telco/mobile provider. I did cable modem installs and maintained the headend equipment, then promoted on to their NOC. Soon ater I went to the NOC, thet started launching DSL and the wierd split cable internet went away. That same POTS upsream was also often used in regular cable plants until the local provider switched their amplifiers to pass upstream traffic.

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    5. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      I don't know. There have been a lot of GPS failures, and the "satellite phones" that are supposed to have coverage everywhere there's open sky, often don't.

      GPS doesn't function in the southern "hemisphere" except near land, which tells me it's land-based, not satellite-based.

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    6. Re:I wonder if there was a "satellite" TV outage? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1

      Interesting, the Wireless Cable! Are there still installations? Perhaps that was what the people on the radio show had found and were discussing as if it was supposed to be pointing at a satellite?

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  25. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Very observant. The remnant crossed Texas, along the gulf coast, and now up the East coast.

  26. Unmanned? by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

    "Oh the, um, Inhumanity!" Hey, if it gets to international waters, can just anybody grab it?

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    1. Re:Unmanned? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      All you have to do is fight your way through a pair of F18's and bog know what else is chasing it. I don't think anybody is going to claim salvage rights on this puppy.

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    2. Re:Unmanned? by Richard+Kirk · · Score: 1

      I was wondering about this. If it was a drifting, unmanned ship at sea it would become the property of anyone boarding it. I would imagine a drifting, unmanned ship above the sea would be subject to the same laws. So, we need another airship to chase it, and board it.

      This could all turn delightfully Girl Genius...

  27. That's not a blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the budget breaking free and drifting into troubled seas. And that's not a tether being dragged along, that's the U S taxpayer.

  28. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

    And hurricanes coming out of the Pacific, absolutely do not cross the entire continent dropping inches of rain on everything in their path.

    Is this article a magnet for stupid or something?

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  29. Duck Tape is a registered trademark by swschrad · · Score: 1

    used by Henckel for a duct tape product. which is actually no good for ducting, because it dries out and comes apart. metallic aluminum tape with a different glue is what is professionally used for air ducting.

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  30. It's not a blimp at all by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 0

    ...keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger.

    Danger from a tether? I'm not saying there's aliens on that airship, but.... it's aliens.

    Fight for your bitcoins!

  31. either it's manned or it's remote controlled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so, either it was left unmanned, or the remote control is a complete failure. Either way this is an idiotic level of incompetence.

  32. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

    It is not the same low, but it is the moisture associated with the hurricane. The hurricane broke up over Texas, but formed a low in the gulf of Mexico which travelled along the coast, dumping rain across the south. The moisture was pulled up the east coast by a low that developed over the Midwest.

  33. Now on the ground by bobthesungeek76036 · · Score: 1

    Blimp/Balloon is now on the ground in Montour County, PA and being secured.

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  34. Re:98 more to go. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    The military should be careful with those things. Some people might think that a military surveillance drone "randomly" getting too close is an act of war.

    As opposed to having a cable dragging on the ground, destroying everything in it's path?

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  35. Sideshow Bob by waynemcdougall · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know the current whereabouts of Sideshow Bob?

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  36. Military Blimp by tekrat · · Score: 1

    Since it's Military... It's gotta be a cheap Blimp, maybe only a few dozen Million dollars. Cheap compared to that new Bomber, which is coming out to $2Billion per plane, at least.

    The Pentagon's budget is unlimited, says the GOP, but we can't afford healthcare or social security, or even have a post office.

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    1. Re:Military Blimp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read that the new bomber was projected at 500m per.

      Or are you calculating the boondoggle costs in advance?

    2. Re:Military Blimp by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Some of the early funding for the blimp like systems going back in 'public' since 1981.
      Tethered Aerostat Radar System
      http://fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/...
      The real win is the the upkeep, upgrading and new support via different departments, mil or federal gov that just keep the cash flowing over generations of platforms.
      The next upgrade for new systems will be long term surveillance above any US city that needs that kind of 24/7 surveillance with a wide selection of civilian/embassy data and optical all weather collection options..
      What once looked out over other nations will now always be looking in.

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    3. Re:Military Blimp by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Are you arguing that we shouldn't pay for the military to detect cruise missiles, or just ranting against the military and GOP?

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  37. Neat thing about tether cables... by sbaker · · Score: 1

    The neat thing about trailing a long tether is that it keeps the airship at a constant height above ground...if it were to drift higher, it would lift more tether off the ground, which would make it heavier - and thus descent. If it drifts lower, more tether rests on the ground, which lightens the airship and allow it to go up again. Net result is an elegant feedback control system that keeps the airship at constant height.

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    1. Re:Neat thing about tether cables... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The neat thing about trailing a long tether is that it keeps the airship at a constant height above ground...if it were to drift higher, it would lift more tether off the ground, which would make it heavier - and thus descent. If it drifts lower, more tether rests on the ground, which lightens the airship and allow it to go up again. Net result is an elegant feedback control system that keeps the airship at constant height.

      Neat thing about this neat thing...I've noticed that it doesn't really fucking help matters much.

      Controlled chaos is still chaos.

    2. Re:Neat thing about tether cables... by belthize · · Score: 1

      The problem in this particular isn't so much constant height as it is constant latitude and longitude.

    3. Re:Neat thing about tether cables... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does that work when *none* of the tether is resting on the ground?

      FTFS: "[it] was last seen drifting at 16,000 ft over Pennsylvania." and "It was trailing approximately 6,700 feet of cable."

      According to my maths that means the bottom of the tether is still over 9000 feet in the air.

  38. It's back on terra firma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please update the summary.

  39. The remote deflation device failed. by mmell · · Score: 1

    Which (in my mind) means chamber another round and keep firing. Don't worry - it'll deflate!

  40. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by Ken+D · · Score: 1
  41. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And hurricanes coming out of the Pacific, absolutely do not cross the entire continent dropping inches of rain on everything in their path.

    Is this article a magnet for stupid or something?

    If the storm path was a little bit more to the south, it could have indeed regenerated into a new cyclone in the Gulf.

  42. Leaf peeping by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    It just wanted to go on a leaf peeping tour.

  43. Landed, in Pennsylvania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An unmanned Army surveillance blimp that tore loose from its ground tether in Maryland and drifted north Wednesday is on the ground in Pennsylvania, authorities said.

    The blimp, which is 243 feet long and was trailing more than a mile of heavy cable, broke free from its mooring at Aberdeen Proving grounds at around 12:20 p.m., North American Aerospace Defense Command said.

    The Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System (JLENS) surveillance aerostat was on the ground in Moreland Township, Pennsylvania, NORAD said. There were no injuries reported.

    William Pitts
    U.S. Air Force Col. William Pitts stands in front of an unmanned aerostat, part of the Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System. Patrick Semansky / AP file
    NORAD said a military recovery team was on the way to the area. Moreland Township is about 20 miles east of Williamsport.

    Two F-16 fighter jets were scrambled from Atlantic City, New Jersey, and tracked the blimp's course. The blimp was holding at around 16,000 feet over Wilmington, Pennsylvania, NORAD said in a statement at around 2 p.m.

    The fighter jets were armed but did not shoot the blimp down, NORAD said. The tail section detached first, and was found about a quarter-mile from where the rest of the blimp landed, officials said.

    Ground controllers at Aberdeen Proving Ground do have the ability to deflate the helium-filled blimp, which could then slowly descend to the ground, but wasn't immediately clear whether that system was used, officials said.

    The dragging tether caused power outages as it drifted over Pennsylvania, Gov. Tom Wolf's office said in a statement. Power company PPL Electric reported that 30,000 people lost power due to the drifting balloon, and by Wednesday afternoon 15,000 remained without electricity.

    The drifting blimp was an odd sight to residents in the flight path. Sylvia Hock and her 9-year-old son, Aidan, were getting out of their car at their Millville home when they spotted the blimp.

    "We thought it was going to land," Hock said. "We thought it was going to pop it got so low. We called 911, who said they were tracking it."

    NORAD said it worked closely with the Federal Aviation Administration to keep commercial airlines informed of the blimp's location to avoid any close calls.
    NORAD said it was still trying to determine how the blimp got loose. Officials said the tether was within weather design minimums when the blimp became detached.

           

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fighter-jets-track-military-blimp-drifting-over-pennsylvania-n453106

  44. Coincidence? I think not! by Grumpinuts · · Score: 1

    Pink Floyd must be reforming...

  45. Privacy violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure I can shoot it down for violating my privacy.

  46. Re:Didn't see it, hurricane Patricia hitting the a by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    As I sit here within 5 miles of the east coast, I look up out of my living room window, and see....the remnants of Hurricane Patricia.

  47. Re:98 more to go. by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

    [The blimp] was last seen drifting at 16,000 ft over Pennsylvania. [...] It was trailing approximately 6,700 feet of cable.

    So, no, it's not hitting the ground.

  48. Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated by sexconker · · Score: 1

    Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System is not JLENS, it's JLACMDENSS.

  49. Not a Blimp nor Aerostat by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    As clearly, it was not powered nor tethered....

    I think should call it an "blump"

    1. Re:Not a Blimp nor Aerostat by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      As clearly, it was not powered nor tethered....

      I think should call it an "blump"

      And anything else in that family would be "blumpkin"?

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  50. I never thought I'd live to see this day... by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    But I can now say, I was there in Baltimore "when the balloon went up”...

    Gee and I thought only WWII survivors could ever quote that.

  51. Wolf Blitzer does not know the difference between by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hydrogen and helium:

    "There was fear it could have exploded. There's helium inside, right?"

  52. Someone still listens to MSNBC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why?

  53. Twitter feed ... by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

    I prefer the other twitter feed for the blimp ... er... aerostat:

    https://twitter.com/AberdeenBl...

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  55. Top Ten List? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    Maybe, "top ten military excuses for the blimp breaking free"

    10. Blimp? What Blimp?
      9. Forgot to use The Club
      8. If you love something, set it free

    That's all I could think of.

  56. Good.... by DewDude · · Score: 1

    maybe it'll stop fucking with the 2m amateur band.

  57. Boy in army uniform lost his baloon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He sais he is sorry and asks you to buy him another one.

  58. Re:Danger? (Supermax) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >> "People are warned to keep a safe distance from the airship and tether as contact with them may present significant danger."
    >
    > Danger?

    Easy. That ballon is filled with super-secret US military sensor payloads. If you come in contact with that tech, the government will have to lock you up for life to prevent you from selling what you saw and looted to the ruffians or th P.R.C.

    Spending 30+ years in an underground Supermax cell is big enough danger or better say risk for anyone.

  59. Panic over, it's down and on the ground... by advocate_one · · Score: 1

    the news article linked to has had it's content updated...

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  60. Cable cutting, speak of the devil and he doth appe by Max_W · · Score: 1

    The ultimate ... hack on the United States could involve severing the ... cables:
    tech.slashdot.org/story/15/10/26/0114256/russian-presence-near-undersea-cables-concerns-us

  61. Is there a chance the tether could bend? by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    "Not on your life, my Hindu friend!"

    Monocable!!

  62. Laugh by koan · · Score: 1

    The death knell of blimp based spying.

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  63. 16,000ft and 6700ft of tether.. by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    I think I see the problem here.

    How done one "grab" a tether where the free end is 10,000 ft in the air? An interesting problem.

    That is up at the upper range to which a helicopter can actually hover... Even if it could, the rotors would be in the way, and you would have to somehow grab it horizontally. A plane of course can't stop, and would need some sort of grappling device, if one exists... On top of that, I don't know what "Vectran" is, but presumably it is an ultra strong 6700ft cable, which is likely as much to slice through a plane and whatever is trying to grab it than not...

  64. Mid-Atlantic? by quenda · · Score: 1

    How did a blimp get from the middle of the ocean, against prevailing winds, to Pennsylvania? Is this another example of the Americans' legendary prowess in geography?